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PS4 PlayStation Plus Details: Cross Game Chat doesn’t require the service

some new details on PS Plus for the PS4. It will be required to play online but not for free-to-play games or MMOs. One subscription will grant access to all accounts on that system.

Cross game chat and other media functions won’t require the subscription. This includes services like Netflix.

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MariaHelFutura1131d ago

You know that stings a little. Thanks Sony!!

allformats1131d ago (Edited 1131d ago )

And that's why Sony is a better games company. They have the gamers in mind, and that's a good thing. This means I can chat with my friends who don't have PS Plus. It also means they feel engaged with PSN, as compared to those with Xbox Live Silver...

Good move, Sony. Keep making them.

President1131d ago

If you're smart, you'll subscribe to PS+.

I would declare you insane if you passed on the amazing value it offers.

SolidStoner1131d ago

its also a smart move, the best commercial I know is the power of people storytelling.. just imagine how many times you will hear someone saying in cross came chat "hey man, you should definitely get ps+, its awesome"... and the man get's one... and they play together happily ever after! lmao!!

loulou1131d ago (Edited 1131d ago )

http://xbox.about.com/od/xb...

you know that stings a little... smh

i thought everyone knew that you needed gold to be in the party chat, and that one on one chat in any game is for everyone. does it sting??

ABizzel11131d ago

To be honest I don't know why it cost at all then. I mean almost EVERYTHING is still free to play online besides games that specifically state themselves to be multiplayer.

You'd think MMO's would be the exact reason to charge for online.

Not that I'm complaining, because I keep my PS+ subscription up faithfully.

loulou1131d ago (Edited 1131d ago )

abizzle

it is simple, sony have been looking enviously at microsofts return from pay to play on-line, and rightfully want to cut themselves a slice of the pie.

i have been paying since 04, and from the end of this year will be paying for two. the way of the world i am afraid

ThanatosDMC1131d ago

I'm thinking it's the Gaikai streaming thing.

Anon19741131d ago

I will never use that feature but I'm happy to hear it's included just so I don't have to listen to people who probably never owned the PS3 in the first place bitch and moan about it for another 7 years.

dantesparda1131d ago (Edited 1131d ago )

"it is simple, sony have been looking enviously at microsofts return from pay to play on-line, and rightfully want to cut themselves a slice of the pie."

This i actually agree with. The only thing i'd like to add, is while i dont like the fact that Sony is charging to play online, I understand why they are doing it, cuz i do think they need the money. And at least it is part of Plus, which is more than worth the money, unlike XBL

GrownUpGamer1131d ago

Mmmmm one on one chat on Xbox Live is freeee.

Now cross game chat in party and multiplayer cost on Xbox Live.

mmmmm... PSN+ doing the same? mmmm...

Heartnet1131d ago

It is a good move but I see no reason to Xgame Chat with friends if ur not playing multiplayer as if ur playing single player ull miss like half of the story... same with netflix etc...

pixelsword1131d ago (Edited 1131d ago )

If you don't have plus, you can still cross game chat with people you can't play with! Coordinating games you'll never join.

Very useful.

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SilentNegotiator1131d ago

It still stinks that they made PS+ a requirement for online play, but it's great to see they won't paywall cross chat, Netflix, etc.

MariaHelFutura1131d ago

Absolutely. I just think they way they chose to pursue it couldn't have been any better. No real walls except for online play and when pay for online play they reward you w/ 50 games a year, discounts, etc. It really couldn't have gone any better.

MizTv1131d ago

I think psplus pays for it's self in a month
It's like look at all the games right now on ps3 and vita for free!
Deus ex, uncharted3, lbp karting, Gravity rush, uncharted Golden abyss just to name a few
All good games

FFXI1011131d ago

Think this way, by paying for online gaming. Sony will be able to provide better online service and features. Is a win-win.

brave27heart1130d ago (Edited 1130d ago )

Im glad cross game chat is outside the paywall. Still not renewing my subscription though. I dont believe its right to charge for something that has been free since the PS2 days. I think plus is great value and worth it in itself, hence why Ive been a plus subscriber from day one, but if I dont take a stand for what I believe in I'll be being untrue to myself.

Im not knocking anyone who buys plus, it is great value, but the principle is wrong to me and Im strong enough to take a stand against it, even if that means I lose out on the other great features of plus.

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komp1131d ago

Being a PS owner, I can remember back in the day, waiting for that 'special ps3 firmware update' that might come and give us cross game chat... it went on for months and months... looking back it was funny.

Everyone on edge on IRC, etc. hoping for it.. me included :)

Oh the happy memories of PS ownership.

Minato-Namikaze1131d ago

I've never once thought about Cross game chat let alone wait for it. I really wanted in-game music for every game though. Wont knock the people who are happy about this though. :)

Heartnet1131d ago

they werent happy memories lol they were rumors which got hopes up and were dashed every update by sony...

Tbh that feature made Xbox live the dominant multiplayer console this gen... Imo..

Made people want to get a headset and talk to each other, sony shudve provided it when it was such an asked for feature for years. Sucks they ruined it with there OS and ram usage :(

Blackdeath_6631130d ago

well you were stupid because sony confirmed it wouldn't be possible due to ram limitation on the ps3

MysticStrummer1131d ago (Edited 1131d ago )

Personally I'd rather basic online gaming was free and Cross Game Chat was part of PS+.

Netflix shouldn't have an extra charge, so that's good.

I've read that Drive Club would be the full version and I've read it would be a stripped down PS+ version. Not sure which is true.

@MizTv - Yeah I can't deny PS+ is a great value, and the more I've thought about it the more I've realized that my gaming habits make PS+ a no brainer. I just think "free online play" has always been a huge selling point for PS so I'm sad to see it go.

MizTv1131d ago

Understandable
But since I have had plus since day one I'm not really upset about it
What i do want to know is how many ps4's can I have my profile on for game sharing with my friends?

Why o why1131d ago

Driveclub, less cars and tracks.

Serg1131d ago

I love the fact that a lot of stuff is accessible without PS+, but yeah, I'm also not a fan of the multiplayer paywall either. But since there is no option now we have to deal with it. I also did the math, I used to burn through more money in one night at a club, than PS+ costs for an entire year. And On top of being able to play multiplayer, I get a ton of free stuff, discounts, could storage etc.

It does suck to pay for multiplayer access, but some free 2 play games don't require it and the crazy value PS+ gives you makes up for it in my opinion.

cell9891131d ago

@MizTv I hope they atleast keep it at 2 like they currently do with PS3. If not, we are all going to have to raise our voices

Sharius1131d ago

me, i rather have the cross game chat free and multiplayer behind the paywall

i pay for PS+ anyway so i don't worry much about multiplayer, but after put multiplayer behind the paywall, they are get rid of the online pass that mean my used game trade will be more valua due these sucka who buy this don't used the online pass as the reason to de-valua it

it's win-win situation for me

brave27heart1130d ago

Its was announced as Driveclub plus edition at their conference and specified that it would be a stripped back version.

Still not bad for a launch title though.

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mattdillahunty1131d ago

i hate the fact that you now have to pay to play online for the PS4, but i have to admit, at least they're not going the Microsoft route and putting everything behind a pay wall. on my 360, i feel like i have to have a gold account just to experience everything the console offers (and i finally canceled it since i never use my 360 anyways).

but on the PS4, i probably won't bother with PS+ since i never play online and don't want to rent their "free" games, yet it seems like i'll still have a fully functioning online service that doesn't feel gimped just because i don't want to pay. have they detailed whether you can use the ustream/capture/sharing stuff without PS+, though? maybe they did and i missed it, but that's the only thing i'm worried about. if you can get full functionality for that stuff without paying, that is awesome.

Why o why1131d ago

Fair comment. Ps+ games are indefinite rentals but for cheaper than any game rental service I know for that price. I'm still annoyed they say they had to charge for multiplayer even though I was always a plus subscriber. Great service btw.

KUV19771131d ago

I#m pretty sure I heard them say you can upload and share video-content without plus. Don't have a source though.

Aloren1131d ago

What about party chat ? Cause if that's just cross game chat, what is there to brag about ? as far as I know, cross game chat has been available for free on 360 for years... I hope they mean party chat.

Gasian1131d ago

I wonder about that too. Interesting

duff9161131d ago

I hope PS4 has party chat.

PsnGammer211131d ago

It does have party chat. Did you not watch the ui video. The vid clearly shows

Rivitur1130d ago

Yea cross game chat is free on 360 but what that actually means is i can send you a text message...That does not mean i can talk to you in a party as a silver memeber you cant talk to anyone at all other than by sending messages via xbox.com

Aloren1130d ago

Nope, what it actually means is that you never had a 360 or at least never knew how to use it, cause you're wrong.
Any silver member can start a private chat with anyone playing any game or doing anything on their 360, as long as that person is not in another voice discussion (whether it's party chat or private chat). That's cross game chat. And that's been available for years. It works just like a phone actually. And it's free ;)

You're partially right though, cause you can also send text messages, and even recorded voice messages actually, but those are just "messages" to read or listen to on your console or on xbox.com, not what I call cross game chat.

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stage881131d ago

Haha so now Xbox live literally has nothing over PSN.
Funny how the tables have turned.

andibandit1131d ago

Isn't it a bit early to evaluate that yet? Unless youre comparing the ps+ thats comming with ps4 with the xbl for the 360, which would truly be "Haha" albeit for diffrent reasons.

PimpDaddy1131d ago

That's like me saying haha PS4 requires you to pay to play online and Sony fanboys who used to put down XBL now think its acceptable to pay because Sony is doing it.

Funny how the tables have turned indeed...

stage881131d ago

@Pimp Well since live can't compare with Plus I'm not sure that's a great comparison.

psyxon1131d ago

pimpdaddy, that analogy made absolutely no sense.

Heartnet1131d ago

@ pimpdaddy

100% agreed... So much has changed in peoples minds that paying for online is okay just cuz sony is doing it whilst chucking in some average game "rentals" with it. I guess 'free' stuff just blinds people.

stage881131d ago

@Heartnet Looks like you don't have the first clue about all the features of Plus and how it gives newly released games as a bonus.

Ignorance is bliss though. Enjoy Assassins Creed 2. It was a great game.... in 2009.

Benchm4rk1131d ago

And enjoy your cross game chat and party chat. Ive only been enjoying it......since 2005

Freedomland1130d ago (Edited 1130d ago )

@Benchm4rk

And enjoy your Blu-ray drive after swapping discs all those years.

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TAURUS-5551131d ago

thank you sony...youre the best ¡¡¡¡

imdaboss11131d ago

its gets better and better

Pl4sm41131d ago

and no ps plus gamers can still play free to play games... so awesome
my plus expires 6/14/2014

pixelsword1131d ago (Edited 1131d ago )

It stings a lot.

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dedicatedtogamers1131d ago

"Cross-chat doesn't require PS+"

Good.

riverstars861131d ago

Xbox Live Silver let you cross game chat, it was the Netflix they didn't allow. Now I want to know is if PS+ subscribers will get a party chat feature like Xbox Live Gold members get.

dedicatedtogamers1131d ago

I never said whether or not cross-chat was behind the Gold paywall. I'm just glad that Sony isn't putting it behind the paywall either.

riverstars861131d ago

Yea sorry man, I just really wish I knew if PS4 is going to have party chat. I fully paid off my PS4, an extra controller, camera, battlefield 4, Cod, watch dogs, madden, and FIFA. I'm ready to go.

GentlemenRUs1131d ago

When I was last on the Xbox, They blocked partychat for Gold only... The only chat you was able to do was private.

Sony's one however will be open and free!

loulou1131d ago

gentlemens

yes we have discovered that. but the question is whether the party chat will be free or not? cross game chat or the one on one private chat in any game is free on xbox now.

the 8 way party chat is reserved for gold members

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LOL_WUT1131d ago

But how else would it work? You need PS+ to even play multiplayer

Heavenly King1131d ago

cross game chat is useful when you and your friends are playing different games. You could play game A in SP, and your friend game B in SP; both should be connected to the PSN obviously and you both can talk together using cross game chat.

joeorc1131d ago (Edited 1131d ago )

"But how else would it work? You need PS+ to even play multiplayer "

Hold on there not completely..read it again!

"It will be required to play online but not for free-to-play games or MMOs."

notice Free to Play an MMO's are not PSN required. for instance those that do not know in playstation Home there is 8 way party chat! already on the PS3 but it only works while in the PSN home Environment. Thus for instance in the Game No mans Land you can have an 8 way party chat among each other, even if your not on the same playstation Home server!

if people do not think this is true , try it yourself, it does indeed work, no telling a fib. this is in fact 100% true. So its completely free through playstation Home, i would imagine for the PS4 it will still be free , but this time even outside of playstation Home, example party chat for the PSVita is free, through the social App.

LostDjinn1131d ago

"Check mate.Your move M$" - I'll give you a minute to think about that.

Classyismyname1131d ago SpamShowReplies(2)
cpayne931131d ago

I think you just meant to say check...

MizTv1131d ago

Bubble for being funny!

Sevir1131d ago

Lol! We know who the chess players are! Still funny.

Master-H1131d ago

Self ownage lol