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Submitted by PerfectCel 960d ago | opinion piece

Five Reasons Why the PS4 is Still a Better Choice than the Xbox One

Davis from Denkiphile: "I have a confession to make: I’m a Sony fanboy. I’ve owned Sony consoles almost exclusively since the PSX. With Microsoft’s recent announcement of their change of plans regarding DRM for the Xbox One, it would seem that the console is now a legitimate competitor to the PS4 and I’m getting a bit worried for the electronics giant. After all, it has Twitch integration, a better launch lineup, and a bevy of announced exclusives that make Knack and Killzone: Shadowfall hardly seem like the system sellers they should be. Despite all that, I’m still confident that the PS4 has some strengths that make the system superior to the next Microsoft system and will make it sell." (PS4, Xbox One)

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Donnieboi  +   961d ago | Well said
It's better because we don't have to beg Sony for Months just to get an evil policy reversed. However, with MS, we have to beg, plead, and embarrass them on national television shows before they reverse the evil policies that were never even gamer-friendly/considerate to begin with.

I feel more secure and less nervous about some odd policy popping up with the PS4, as opposed to any product Microsoft makes (including Xbox One and Windows 8)

PS4 > Beg-Box One
Lone_Man  +   960d ago | Well said
harsh but true.... i was really going to buy xbox one bt after all the rumors becoming true and after months of protest xbox at last did the right thing...but i think it was not the begging and request that helped in removing the DRM..i think they realized the factor they will not going yo sell enough consoles.

still not enough for me ....i am 22 and dont want to play with my parents, uncle and aunts instead of my friends so ps4 in my room is still better then xbox 1 in the living room
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loulou  +   960d ago
it's easy

no1: because n4g said so

no2: same as no1

no3: sames as no2

you get the message....

both have their strengths and weaknesses. i will get both. i dont really need wrote especially for n4g blogs telling me anything
sonic989  +   960d ago

i am already out of ideas about what the XBone has and the PS4 dont
hmmmmm..... nope nothing PS4 is better and cheaper no comparison
dolkrak  +   960d ago | Well said
@loulou : XB1 has zero strength actually.

- it's 100$ higher in pricetag
- it's 30 to 50% less powerful
- it's focused on stupid TV and shows
- Kinect is required and always connected, you got to pay for it
- DRM can come back to bite your ass any time
- less exclusives than Sony
- inferior version of every multiplatform
- PS+ > XBL Gold in value (free AAA games, discounts...)
- no Gaikai service or other game streaming

There's zero reason to go XB1 right now, PS4 is superior in every way.
GrownUpGamer  +   960d ago
@ dolkrak

Remember this?

Yes $599-$499 us dollars for a ps3 back then.

Now an Xbox One WITH a Kinect @ $499 us dollars and people are making that A BIG DEAL.

YUP lets make the price of the Xbox One a BIG DEAL.

Im not in favor of them just giving the consumer the option of a Kinect SKU but to make the price of that sku a big deal is pure stupidity.

WHAT WE need to do is demand from them a sku without a Kinect.

Think about it with your fanboy glasses off.
Wh15ky  +   960d ago

But the launch price of the PS3 was a huge deal in 2006 even though the world was in a far better economical state back then compared to now. So why wouldnt xbox ones launch price cause a stir?

So what if kinect's included, back in 2006 for $499 you were getting a brand new gaming console aswell as the cheapest bluray player available at that time.

Also, doesnt the xbox one need kinect to work? Or has it been confirmed that ms has changed that too?
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GrownUpGamer  +   960d ago
@ Wh15ky

Do you really believe that the Xbox One cant work without a Kinect? Are you really that dumb? What they are doing is making the kinect seen as a necessary feature. Well Ryse say hi.
Wh15ky  +   960d ago
I was asking you that, I don't know for sure. I was, however, under the impression that ms wanted kinect to be a necessity.

I do find it interesting that that is the only part of my comment you chose to reply to though.
pixelsword  +   960d ago
Get rid of the mandatory PS+ and it's a day 1 purchase for me.
MysticStrummer  +   960d ago
You have a bad memory, GrownUp.

PS3's price was in fact a big deal.

There's nothing fanboyish about saying the One would be cheaper without Kinect, especially since Kinect is the only area where the One has a technical advantage.

You're the person wearing fanboy goggles here.
ThanatosDMC  +   960d ago
I'm surprised people would go with MS when they screwed up the hardcore with Kinect and the stagnant amount of hardcore exclusives.
morganfell  +   960d ago
Ryse says hi? I will bet it does that without any controller input too.

As for the PS4, we are going get a huge library because it is primarily a gaming machine. And more will be abbounced at Gamescom:

Straight from Jim Ryan and SCEE.
GrownUpGamer  +   960d ago
@ MysticStrummer

PS3's price was in fact a big deal. <---- YES!!!

You n4g ps fanboys making the xbox one KINECT sku price seen/sound worst than that?

MEGA fnck!ng YES!!!!

By the way im not in favor of a Kinect Sku.
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Hey morganfell how much they pay u?
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Wh15ky  +   959d ago
"Hey morganfell how much they pay u?"

Pot, kettle, black if ever I did see it.

I don't get where you're coming from with your comparisons to the PS3 launch price.

I think the big deal that people are going on about is that the entry level PS4 is $100 cheaper than the entry level xbox one, something nobody saw coming before the E3 announcements.

However, back to the PS3 comparisons - I think it's easier to defend the PS3s high launch price because of the inclusion of blu ray and the substantial loss sony were taking on each unit sold. Any idea of the loss ms is incurring on each xbox one that will be sold?
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morganfell  +   959d ago | Well said
Pay me? You mean as a gamer that is sick and tired of a company coming into the industry and ramming direct x down everyone's throat in order to kill two superior APIs you surmise I need money to voice an opinion against that?

As a gamer that has had my fill of a company using cheap payoffs and massive ad money rather than creativity I shouldn't voice criticism against that unless I am paid?

I watch a company attempting to get publishers to use a highly restrictive type of DRM that will forever ruin our hobby and you think I have to be given money in order to speak up?

I see a company that focuses on the casual living room first and gamers second yet tries and does detrimentally influence the gaming community and you believe it requires payola in order to lean into said company?

Oh I see. You think everyone is like you and they only act for money.

You must be thinking of yourself. You are obviously the one that will not do the right thing unless you get a payoff. Oh wait, you are a fan of the way Microsoft operates therefore you believe no one should do anything in the world unless someone shoves a wad of cash in their pocket when no one is looking.

And for the record I never had a problem with the PS3 price. Why? Because those extra dollars actually did something that mattered. That's right I said it. They provided what some of us knew then and the rest of you are now having to eat in your humble pie. Bluray is the current and next gen disc format. Sony was correct...again.

The PS3 had built in HDMI. Sony was correct...again.

The PS3 had built in Wifi. Sony was correct... again.

The PS3 had swappable HDD that with an inexpensive industry standard design instead of a price bloated proprietary model. Sony was on the mark...again.

With the Xbone you extra dollars get you...kinect. They get you a DVR. They get you a manager for your living room. Somewhere down the line after that there is a gem device. No thanks.
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thechowderp  +   959d ago
@ grown up gamer
God of War > Ryse
MuleKick  +   959d ago
The Playstation has always been my console of choice and it will remain that way well into the future. But I have to admit that the Xbox One does have some cool features. I have to give credit where its due. With that said, I still prefer Sony's first party titles well over MS and I don't see it changing ever. I buy gaming consoles for games. Features are just an added bonus.
k2d  +   959d ago
Way to advertice for Microsoft, GrownUpGamer.

You're coming off as the biggest fanboy in here.

PS3 price was actually a pretty big deal back in the day, but I don't se dolrak or any others here making any arguments that defy that fact.

Some found value in the PS3 in that it had a bluray player. The best Bluray player actually for a couple of years. And it's not like it dried up without any games like the 360 has for the the last 3 years.

I'm sure there are those that'll find value in the Xbox One at a price of $500 too. I just doubt the majority ever will..
allformats  +   960d ago | Well said
PS4 has already won next-gen. The momentum is with Sony. Mark my words.
MysticStrummer  +   960d ago
Your words have been marked.

PigPen  +   960d ago
PS4 won next gen, that reminds me about Vita. PS4 won nothing and it's not even out yet.
horndog  +   960d ago
Sure sure buddy boy the same words were used for the ps3 when it came out. It didnt win $@! t, just lost half the market from its ps2 era to MS and Nintendo. Now you keep telling yourself that it has already won this gen because when they are out the gates and the sales numbers are closer than you would have thought its going to make for some great laughs on this site.
kickerz  +   960d ago
Ps4 has won on this site. THAT IS ALL. maybe ten thousand people use this site compared to 100 million gamers out there, hardcore and casual. I think it will be quite even now MS has got rid of DRM, but to be honest i dont care who wins. I will be sitting there with xbox controller in hand playing titanfall with my awsome servers. Just enjoying gaming in general :)
GrownUpGamer  +   960d ago
@ allformats

"PS4 has already won next-gen. The momentum is with Sony. Mark my words."

Ohhh the war that never ends. Brand A vs Brand B.

Who really give a Fn*# about it? Did you know that the war is in your mind and for your mind?

Those who save money and buy both consoles are the ones who enjoy gaming more and the smartest ones.

Who is paying you to help them win the war for your mind?

Lets talk about games more and less about consoles.
CoolBeansRus  +   959d ago
blah blah fanboyiswm. Sony troll had a good two weeks to power up their inner child. Now they are full grown trolls.
Hanif-876  +   960d ago
It isn't just the RAM thats better but also the GPU with 50% more power. However, i'm glad that Microsoft changed their DRM polices. I wasn't going to purchase it at all but now i might actually consider it if the exclusives sways to actually purchase one.
BallsEye  +   960d ago
RAW SPECS (and GPU one is simply not true, ms didn't even release full specs) is not everything. I'd like to remind you that lasy gen xbox 360 had more raw power (look it up, way more graphics power) but ps3 fans were saying its all about architecture and power of the cell! It can offload GPU and in some games you can see it work. Now that Xbox One has eSRAM , CUSTOMIZED DDR3 (not your normal DDR3) and 5 move engines to offload CPU and GPU a LOT while ps4 got very simple architecutre (just like standard pc) all the fanboys say only raw specs matter. How about lets wait for good games to come out? So far I've seen plenty on MS presentation and they looked awesome.
Cuzzo63  +   960d ago | Well said
Micro didnt have to release complete specs. The whole system fromtha roota to tha toota was leaked. Also the developers that are working has said that. Some are keeping a neutral stance but most are giving ps4 the ups. The gpu and the cpu are basically out in the open. Their are write ups on them also. From the tflops to the shaders to the ram.

Sony PS4’s GPU has 50 per cent more shader cores than the Xbox One – 1,152 against 768. And, further descending into the details, their TFLOP ratings, which measure how many operations a second they can perform, are far removed from each other.The PS4 is rated at 1.8TFLOPs, the Xbox One just 1.23TFLOPs. However, this rating in particular has tended to bear little relation to actual results – the PS3 was widely reported as being a 1.8TFLOP system at its launch. And the PS3 is nowhere near as powerful as the PS4.

It might not be a huge advantage but a advantage non the less. Anyway its gonna come down to games and I will give M$ this first round. Both have good things to offer so neither side wont be missing much... well I take that back. Only game I would like to have on the ps4 is titanfall. The rest they can keep

Oh and we all know ps3 has a under powered gpu, (seehow unfanboyish that was because its a fact we cant deny) compared to the 360 but if you can just be realistic. The cell did give it a boost since not one 1st party game on 360 looks better than the 1st uncharted game on ps3. Have you seen or played TLOU. Prolly not. Great game by the way
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SniperControl  +   960d ago | Well said

Whatever you just smoked, i want some!

Show me a 360 game that looks as good as Uncharted 3 or The Last of us.

Stop trolling you fanboy.
S2Killinit  +   960d ago
why do you think MS didn't release official specs? Why do you think they kept up a PR campaign to make people think that the cloud is going to magically make the xbox more powerful? its because it is a weaker system. The GPU think has already been pretty much revealed although MS missed the official announcement. On top of that there are rumors that the clock speed is going to be even lower than originally anticipated due to overheating issues. The RAM issue is all but proved. Also in the current gen, no body ever said xbox 360 was more powerful in any way because that would have been complete rubbish and we've seen the difference in graphics between the two consoles ever since the dev were able to take advantage of the Cell. So what you say is simply off.
seanpitt23  +   960d ago
@ ballseye
Have you heard yourself just read what you have just put because that is a load of bull.
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G20WLY  +   960d ago
^BallsEye, you are so, so very wrong.

You took your Eye off the Ball mate - and it's coming right at your face lol
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KillrateOmega  +   960d ago

Maybe you, and others like you, would be taken more seriously if you weren't so grammatically-impaired.

Seriously, your comment looks like it was structured by a 12yo...
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bligmerk  +   960d ago
There are also the fairly strong rumors that Sony is going to overclock the PS4 APU and MS is going to underclock the XBone's.

Also, not to forget, confirmed that the PS4 has 1GB reserved RAM memory space for the system and the XBone has 3GB. This means PS4 devs can count on 7GB of RAM for games, the XBone only 5GB (and slower RAM speed).

The XBone is going to still completely install games on their hard drive, like a PC game. Sony studios have perfected seamless loading of content from the Blu-ray drive, making the mandatory install mainly for the game, not the content like textures, thereby allowing for very high resolution. And on this hard drive, the PS4 will allow the change or upgrade of the hard drive, not the XBone, proprietary hard drive and only factory servicing.

Forgot to add, the PS4 has a dedicated input/output processor and a dedicated hardware video compressor/decompressor. Whether these are on one chip or two chips on a die is still to be revealed but these hardware devices provide more than the multimedia capabilities MS is trying to do in software.

There are way more than 5 reasons the PS4 stomps all over XBone.
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esemce  +   960d ago
Yeah I'll maybe buy a used slim version with some used games in a few years, the bitches won't see my money. That's if they actually have some exclusives other than forza and halo that are worth a sh1t.

And on the games front just look at this gen how Sony had 3 great exclusive PS3 titles releasing withing six months of the PS4's release.

Just look at the so few and far between AAA exclusives that were/are on the Xbox360 since the release of Kinect.
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Nafon  +   960d ago
@Cuzzo63 is right. Specs and actual performance aren't directly correlated. The PS4 will be more powerful than the XB One, but how that will translate into actual gameplay graphics (no renders) remains to be seen.
Benchm4rk  +   960d ago
@cuzzo63 and Sniper Control

Halo 4 and Gears 3....nuff said
Reibooi  +   960d ago
For me it's quite simple. The games. Right now even though we have not seen a ton the games Sony has showed are what I want to be playing. The only MS game that even remotely interests me is Quantum Break.(and even that I am on the fence because of the whole TV show comes bundled with it thing)

Beyond that I would chose the PS4 as it's the console that will likey get more RPGs(most western RPGs are multi and a good chunk of J-RPG's are exclusive like the Atelier series for example)

I just hope MS doesn't buy up some Japanese exclusives again. Games like Losy Odyssey were incredible but should have had a much bigger audience.
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Mystogan  +   960d ago
Lol these are some pathetic reasons.

It hardly has "Much More power" as PS fans like to think.

Any REAL racing fan knows that Forza took the racing Sim crown since Forza 4.

Better exclusives down the line? wishful thinking.

Remote play will fail once again. Nobody actually buys a Vita. While any Android,iOS and Windows device can have Smartglass.

I'll give you indie support.

And the price only LOOKS better. Pay $100 extra and you get much more value from the X1.
BallsEye  +   960d ago
1 year xbox live gold is included, a lot of people seem to forget about it. Add the Eye to ps4 and 1 year subscription and you'll be having same or higher price. I think it's a very smart move to include 1 year xbox live gold (everyone are connected from day 1!) and kinect 2.0. While first kinect wasn't what it should be (had fun playin few games tho, skyrim functionality cool too) this one looks like it will really change a lot, and having it with every console gives a big chance to devs. Just look at tech demos! Even simple things like in FPS demonstration when he taps his temple to turn on nightvision (and it reacts instantly) is awesome.
Cuzzo63  +   960d ago
No its really not more value... Explain why its more value. Ps4 cam is cheaper. Better ram, gpu, cpu, and blu ray drive. Everything Xb1 has ps4 has. Hell ps3 do most of the thing xb1 is offering. Game sharing movies sharing hell even dlc and add ons can be shared... Xb1 got some good things goin for it. Hell, 300k cloud servers is amazing. :o lol. Anyway. Its all fun n games. Both sides are gonna have a good holiday
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Skips  +   960d ago
So 50% more raw GPU power and 2 GB more available RAM for games from FASTER and efficient GDDR5 isn't "much more power"? lol!

"Any REAL racing fan knows that Forza took the racing Sim crown since Forza 4."

No , just no.. -_-

"Better exclusives down the line? wishful thinking."

Wishful thinking??? More like a GIVEN. XD

You seriously gonna put 15 games from Microsoft's no name, unproven, devs who've probably only worked on small XBL arcade, Kinect, and other motion gaming shovelware against 20-40 games from Sony's studios such as SSM, ND, PD, Sucker Punch etc???

Who probably have more talent than all of Microsoft's studios combined???

That's cute. XD
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KillrateOmega  +   960d ago
"It hardly has "Much More power" as PS fans like to think."

So you don't deny that the PS4 has the more powerful hardware?

"Better exclusives down the line? wishful thinking."

With the PS4's superior hardware, I see no reason why they would not be technically better.
It's silly to judge a console's exclusive games performance based soley on the initial line-up. Sony's track record concerning exclusives and new IPs has been pretty great in recent years; while MS's has not.

"Nobody actually buys a Vita."

Except all those people who actually went out and bought a Vita, right?

"And the price only LOOKS better. Pay $100 extra and you get much more value from the X1."

Such as?
AngelicIceDiamond  +   960d ago
@Sonic "You seriously gonna put 15 games from Microsoft's no name, unproven, devs who've probably only worked on small XBL arcade, Kinect, and other motion gaming shovelware against 20-40 games from Sony's studios such as SSM, ND, PD, Sucker Punch etc???

That's a crazy fanboy comment you wrote there. The point is MS has games, and finally some original games this time around. All you do is find red flags in everything Xbox.

Why spin and find faults in every little thing like you usually do? I bet your one of those people who hate a person's soul if he or she chooses an X1 over a PS4.

Why does it matter so much to you honestly?
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Skips  +   960d ago

How is it a fanboy comment when it's literally A FACT that the majority of Microsoft's studios are either no names (other than fanboys, does the average gamer even KNOW the names of Microsoft's studios?), small studios who've worked on NOTHING BUT motion gaming shovelware (Look at the portfolio for most of the studios, you can't honestly lie about how pathetic it is), or studios that have worked on NOTHING BUT small arcade titles etc. etc.???

"Better exclusives down the line? wishful thinking." was what I was replying to.

Better studios make better games. *GASP

Shocker... I know right???

And it doesn't take a fanboy to see who owns better studios kiddo. -_-
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sonic989  +   960d ago
that comment wooow does it exist
you you caused people to die
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Jaqen_Hghar  +   959d ago
A man bought PSeye with PS4 and still was $40 cheaper than Xbone. A man also doesn't see many "REAL" racing fans agreeing with you that have played GT. 20 exclusives in the first year compared to 15 for MS and with more proven studios. Need a man say more? Yes he does because PS+ gives free games all the time including Driveclub at launch and is $10 cheaper.
GrumpyOla  +   960d ago
Alot of exclusives are going multiplat. As for the more power, that's for the developers and the experts on the matter to decide.
From past experience, hardware reliablity is most important to me personally.
irepbtown  +   959d ago
''Alot of exclusives are going multiplat.''

Where on bloody Earth did you get that from?
killacal13  +   960d ago
The begging didn't make a difference, it was the PREORDERS!!!! Msoft doesn't care what we think.
Old McGroin  +   960d ago
@ Donnieboi

"It's better because we don't have to beg Sony for Months just to get an evil policy reversed."

Don't think there was any begging involved Donnieboi, think it was more to do with the fact that people were just gonna ignore the Xbone altogether because of these policies that changed MS' mind. MS are not the consumers friend, and neither are Sony or Nintendo. All 3 are businesses, it's not good will they want, it's cash. The policies MS announced would have resulted in less consoles sold, that's what changed their mind, not begging (although I can't dispute the fact there may have been some people who actually did beg!).
wastedcells  +   960d ago
Sony first party games are the biggest reason.
A-laughing-horse  +   960d ago
Are you a child?
Donnieboi  +   960d ago
Who are you talking to?
A-laughing-horse  +   960d ago
Pretty sure I replied to you right?
Foliage  +   960d ago
Microsoft didn't change any policies for the betterment of their customers; they were slaughtered in pre-orders and changed it for the almighty dollar.
Tong  +   960d ago
Xbox is never better than Playstation to begin with.
imdaboss1  +   960d ago
one reason would be xbone drm can come back if ms decided to bring it again..stay away people they need to learn a lesson..
AngryEnglish  +   960d ago
And Drm could be on the PS4 at anytime to, people seem to conveniently forget that Sony has left the door open for any dev to add DRM
greenlantern2814  +   960d ago
It is so funny when Xbox fans talk about how 360 beat ps3, when the sales world wide confirm Xbox in last place. But Xbox still won because ps didn't sell as much as ps2, which shattered all console game sales. Didn't know winning meant not getting beat as badly as you did last time
AngryEnglish  +   960d ago
Well think of it this way..... They chewed into half of Sony's market share, you think that was a Sony victory? They lost over 70 million sales...
greenlantern2814  +   960d ago
And one could argue that most of those people went to Wii since it sold over90 million units.
Think about this when ms released the 360 the stated goal of the company was not we are going to hurt sony, but we are going to win this generation. They are still last so I doubt ms is running around giving each other high fives going we took some of Sony's huge lead away but still got beat.
wiz7191  +   959d ago
But the PS3 took the whole generation to even take the lead.
greenlantern2814  +   959d ago
But in the end they did win out. And ms fans say the price differences isn't a big deal but it is it hurt sony out the gate and will most likely hurt Xbox1 sales. Fans of ms are going to buy it fans ps are going to get that but a lot of gamers are not stuck to one over the other. If they can get Madden, and COD that's cool for them and those people will by the cheaper system
TheXgamerLive  +   960d ago
hahaha nonono
5 pathetic and untrue reasons, lol Xbox One and its merge with the cloud is different than anything sony can do. MS has actually developed an engine of sorts for the cloud and Xbox One games. Halo 5 will be the first title to release using it. When you see and play Halo 5 then you will see Xbox One's potential.
One only plays games and will have over heating issues and the other does everything and does it better. $499.00 us is a great price. 399.00 is a great price. You get what you pay for.
condemmedman  +   960d ago
Months? What planet are you from?
Elimin8  +   960d ago
LMMFAO @ Beg-Box One
GrownUpGamer  +   960d ago
@ MysticStrummer
"PS3's price was in fact a big deal." <--- YES!

Are you fanboys making the price of the Xbox One WITH KINECT sound worst than the PS3 $599-$499 here on N4G?


Seriously i never espect Agrees when i comment in favor of Xbox.

Im not in favor of a Kinect Sku.
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showtimefolks  +   960d ago
for me as a gamer

1-i know what to expect out of sony like nintendo, both will deliver excellent exclusives

2-psn-plus is a very very very under rated service which now more people will get to experience and many will fall in love with the service and will be surprised how much sony gives back for that $50 bucks every year. and that's not even counting the discounts

3-controller is better than xblive(this is very very personal preference so some may hate it but i love DS and from what i have read DS4 is gonna be improved in almost every aspect)

4-I know sony doesn't make bad systems so quality is a huge factor.

5- and this is the biggest being able to change the eternal hard drive, this is something i will do right out of the box

to each their own i am not gonna say xbox one sucks and all because MS has shown enough gaming content, my only issue is this will they forget about us after 3-4 years again like they did with xbox 360 for last 3 years? and how soon will they just stick to just 4-5 same sequels for rest of the gen exclusives wise

right now they are saying we are all for gamers but they have a proven track record in gaming for giving up on their old systems and forgetting their fanbase

also it doesn't help them that ps4 is $399
fingazblank  +   959d ago
we didnt have to beg months to sony, lol microsoft announced there plans all but two weeks ago, so its hardly months...

This article, damn why do i read the cr@p they put on here, further down the line the games will look better, will they really, further down the line they will have better exclusives, are right yeah further down the line, fo mate, 8gddr5 aint going to mean squat, further down the line. It would be a huge difference if both console were using diferent gfx and cpus but there not they are the same, microsft counters the gddr 5 with the move engines and the pool of edram
mp1289  +   961d ago
($399 with More Power) vs ($499 with a Bigger BOX)

Don't forget, Microsoft will give you a brand new kinect 2.0 with your order for FREE! I love free stuff.
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xJumpManx  +   960d ago
Kind of sounds like SOny with their new pay to play online service.
RiPPn  +   960d ago
You mean like Microsoft has been doing for 8 years?
s8anicslayer  +   960d ago
but with PS+ you get so much free content it's unbelievable with XBLgold you get nothing for free. Personally I've always thought that live was a better online experience and I still believe that but come next gen that's all going to change.
xJumpManx  +   960d ago
Not your choice of games the ones Sony Force feeds you.
I expected as much from Sony fans they whine and complain about xbox fees but when Sony does it all is ok.
G20WLY  +   960d ago
^When they're "feeding" you games like Uncharted 3, Gravity Rush and Drive Club, who would complain?

And let's not forget that one subscription cover 3 devices (PS3, PS4 and PS Vita) :)
greenlantern2814  +   960d ago
Yup now you have to pay for online which isn't cool but that's true for both systems.
But if you had a psplus account thAn you would know it was worth it.
esemce  +   960d ago
Being forced to buy and use the Kinect is just one of the many reasons why Microsoft can piss off.

And out of the exclusives they have I think many will be Kinect focused and the real AAA exclusives will dwindle away like they did on the XB360.

1. Cheaper price.
2. More powerful hardware.
3. No forced kinect type games.
4. Naughty Dog.
5. More real non PC exclusives and support for a longer time span (TLOU,GT6 and 2 Souls and the PS2 prove this)
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rela82me  +   960d ago
Another drone post, cheaper price is really the only thing going for ps4. Lineup is completely debatable and is perspective. The hardware difference on paper is better, but so was ps3 and I could have been fooled. I truly don't think that this hardware difference will make up for the superior software, and networking support that Microsoft has offered for the last 2 generations. Free games every month doesn't justify poor online experience and data security.

I wouldn't say picking any console would be a no brainer, it's truly up to your preference. If your a heavy online gamer, and lean towards the shooter / medium - hardcore games than xbox is your console. If you enjoy more single-player and cinematic games ps4 is your choice.

Both offer some of what their competitor specializes in but they can't reproduce it with authenticity.
Belking  +   960d ago
I agree that's a poor article. They didn't do a good job of explaining why ps4 is the better choice. It's more about choice. I choose xbox-one and it's not because I don't like PS4. The xbox-one is a better fit for my household. It has games for adults, and it appeals more to the younger with kinect games. I like what xbox-one offers over PS4 right now.
nukeitall  +   960d ago
I think that is a very balanced statement. Bubbled up and agree!
Mystogan  +   960d ago
The PSfans are fools if they think they'll continue to get as many free games as on PS3. If they even get any.
SpinalRemains138  +   960d ago
Jealous much?
mcstorm  +   960d ago
@rela82me bubble up for your comment. This site has just been full of Sony fan boys since e3 and its now all getting boring. They say the same thing every new gen. Ps3 will walk all over 360, psv will walk all over the 3ds and now ps4 will walk all over the Xbox one. Come on guys give it a rest. Dose it really matter which console sells the most? We buy a console to play the games and services they offer not because one has more power or less expensive than the other.

For me next gen is all about the Xbox one and Wiiu and 3ds. I own a psv, ps3 and I 360 at the mo but about to trade them in and pre order a Xbox one and pre order forza 5, Mario kart 8, Mario world 3rd, Zelda wind wake and also grab Luigi man 2 for the 3ds as for me those 3 consoles offer me more of the games im into than Sonya console. That dose not mean I think they are bad I just like the other 2 better and ill get more play time out of them now I have less time to play games.
xJumpManx  +   960d ago
LOL, the only change from this gen to last is now Sony fan boys who screamed holy murder by Microsoft for charging for online play have to as well. But they accept it saying being force fed old games makes it worth it. LOL
_QQ_  +   960d ago
Sony fanboys are the blindest of the bunch, I'm going to buy a PS4 and i love sony,but i will be playing all my online games on PC for now on. PS+ doesn't justify paying to play, i don't care how good a deal it is,its still being forced on you to play online,I have gamefly which is 10x better and some people just don't care about a bunch of PSN games.
IMightBeRetarded  +   960d ago
A 95% satisfaction rating of ps+ says otherwise, but you are entitled to your opinion.
xJumpManx  +   960d ago
Yea I have all 3 consoles and a a year old Gaming Puter that still runs everything on ultra settings. I like games and I really do not want to miss out any AAA title for any platform.
xJumpManx  +   960d ago
@IMightBeRetarded, And XBox has the largest pay online community in console gaming. I guess they must be pretty happy with their online service as well. However that did not stop the Sony fan boys for over 5 years now from whining and complaining with I quote "I will never pay for online gaming".
GrandTheftZamboni  +   960d ago

Thank Microsoft for paying to play online becoming standard. Thank Sony for having draconian DRM NOT becoming standard.
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_QQ_  +   960d ago
95% of how many people? Obviously people who still pay for the service are happy with it,but sony won't reveal how many people are actually suscribed to PS could be millions it could only be one million,the customer satisfaction is no indactor of the quality and usefulness of the service without knowing how many people are actually suscribed,plus not everyone took the survey or whatever they used to gather that information.And like i said some people don't want all that and just want to play online.

Also sony isn't to thank for the DRM, its the consumers, Sony noticed the negative response to DRM and scrapped it because it gives them a business advantage.
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Cuzzo63  +   960d ago
Well thank the Cloudz they scrapped it
shinrock  +   960d ago
Funny thing is ,those games that they are forced fed to the fans, Sony then comes to ur house and sticks their finger down ur throat to make you throw those games right back up if you cancel or don't pay that bill.

NioRide  +   960d ago
5 reasons why these submissions won't stop

1. They generate hate
2. Opinions are easy to make
3. People can't help but click on it
4. Trolls Trolls & more Trolls
5. Free hits on website
FrigidDARKNESS  +   960d ago
Very nice well said.
loulou  +   960d ago
bubs +
SpinalRemains138  +   960d ago
Excellent job countering all the points in the article.

If the truth upset me and my fantasy, I would probably dismiss the article and label it a red herring too.
NioRide  +   960d ago
You want the truth? I didn't even bother clicking on the link leading to the website.

simply because I've seen 40 of these in the last 3 days.
from the beach  +   960d ago
Get both, no more tears.
aquamala  +   960d ago
Bu but people that can afford only one needs to find reasons why one is better than the other to justify their purchase!
_QQ_  +   960d ago
Though the article is obviously true, The "all this for 400$"part isn't, remote play would cost you about 250$ more.
IMightBeRetarded  +   960d ago
Not if you already have a vita. That really doesn't include a ton of people, but is awesome for those who do.
Mystogan  +   960d ago
Thats the thing lol. Nobody has a vita.

While smartglass works with Android iOS and Windows devices.
_QQ_  +   960d ago
I don't understand how i could possibly have disagrees on this,what i said was a fact, you need to cough up 200$ for remote play if you don't have a vita.If i'm wrong don't be greedy and tell me how i can get my free Vita.
LKHGFDSA  +   960d ago
it's because the line was just the wording in the article. The point was that it's cheaper than the Xbox One.
SpinalRemains138  +   960d ago
If the sole purpose of the Vita was remote play then you'd have a point.

The Vita is a stand alone device first though.
Remote play is actually a free feature.
_QQ_  +   960d ago
@spinalremains, I do have a point,i never said the vita wasn't a standalone machine, i said that if in fact you do want remote play on the ps4 you need to have a 200$ Vita. Therefore when he adds Remote play in the list of why ps4 is great value then goes on to say "All this for 399$" he is wrong because the Remote play feature will in fact not be accessible to you for just 399$.And i realize a very small minority of people do have Vitas, but most people don't.
This shouldn't be thar hard to figure out.
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th3diseased  +   960d ago
How can I get my free tablet/android? Please tell. This was SARCASAM none of these things are free you see? Dumb. Oh and with a vita your not just paying for remote play. Your indeed paying for a Portable Game system which actually aint to shabby when your bored.
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Foxgod  +   960d ago
I only agree with the last reason.
The first four aren't going to affect my personal gaming experience, or are completely debatable.
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blanket14  +   960d ago
the playstation brand has alwayd been loyal about bringing games. last gen ms came out strong with games then look what happened. the rrod scenario was because ms rushed the counsles and the past repeats itself. im going to trust sony again, also ms cancelled the drm but whats up with you still need to connect the xvox atleast once thats sketchy! you still need kinect always plugged in and you cant even upgrade the 500 gig harddrive im going with the ps4 sorry but ms is to not be trusted they keep changing thier mind over and over it seems like they are rushing this.
Foxgod  +   960d ago
XB1 supports external HD's.
I_AM_ CANADIAN_1989  +   960d ago
Ps4 supports a HDD internal upgrade but hey you got to have a external hard drive to keep your massive power brick from getting lonely ms the king of add on peripherals. Ps4 wins on hardware hands down. Xbox one hasn't even launched yet and they're already dealing with heat issues 6 monthes for launch geez never trust a software company to do a hardware company's job. Enjoy rrod round two.
Polysix  +   960d ago
External drives are terrible, not what you want hanging around the TV area. PS4 nailed it there just like PS3 did. I fitted a 500gb in my fat PS3, cost me barely anything vs the MS official drives.
SpinalRemains138  +   960d ago
How will that external drive help your console if the internal one craps out?

There is a clear advantage to having a replaceable HDD and the survival of your console is just one of them.
Grown Folks Talk  +   960d ago
Funny how you didn't mind add ons when Sony was doing it. Lovingly purchased memory cards, network adapters, multi-taps, ect.
SniperControl  +   960d ago
Just to let you know, MS will not allow games to be installed on an external HDD. Way to many piracy issues.
aftershock  +   960d ago
You have to connect the x1 to the net once because it is patching the update to get rid of all the drm bs on day one
Polysix  +   960d ago
It isn't JUST for that, they claim there was always going to be a day one connection/patch anyway (And I believe it's to do with registering your console/username/account and for their own data collection on location etc)
BallsEye  +   960d ago
"I have a confession to make: I’m a Sony fanboy..."

Stopped reading here.
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MultiConsoleGamer  +   960d ago
1 Value
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All this and no spy cam.
seepamann  +   960d ago
I love n4g how many beautiful comments above love you gamers
Virtual_Reality  +   960d ago
Pointing out some key features if anyone is interested on PS4 and looking to buy the PS4:

*30 First Party Exclusives games in Development, 20 of them will be released in the first year.

*40+ exclusive experiences from 3rd Party games. 100 games will be released in the first year.

*F2P Games, Media Apps, Party Chat are not behind the paywall

*Around 505 Studios are developing something for PS4 (before it was 126 studios).

*Better Indie support, allowing them to self publish their own games.

*PS+ is more valuable for what it offers.

*The most powerful console in the market at $399.

*HDD is upgradeable, if the main HDD fails, is possible to buy a new HDD without returning the console or buying a new one.

This is what you can find in N4G articles. From different official sources.

If anyone notice I missed something or disagree, please, collaborate.
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SpinalRemains138  +   960d ago
Its remote play mandate allows Vita owners to game next Gen on the go wherever there is a WiFi network.

That feature cannot be overlooked.

Gaming on a tablet is not next Gen.
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xXtremeHDGamerXx  +   960d ago
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WolfOfDarkness  +   960d ago
Lets just assume that both Xbox One and PS4 are identical in Power and Price , which Console you will chose ?

Ofcourse the games you love to play and enjoy in the past generation will pull you toward the system you want to buy .

In that case , Most of gamers will go with PS4 because the Price and the Power , Sony have won most of Microsoft gamers because DRM Restrictions , Just after Microsoft reversed DRM some gamers simply went running to pre- order Xbox one .

The future looks bright for Sonys PS4 ... For those gamers who have average income, It will be wise for them to get PS4 in 2013 , and it will be nice to get Xbox One in 2014 .

For me , I will get both Systems , my favorite gaming console will be PS4 .

I just love games , I don't care if I play them on PC ,PS4 or XBone .

I am saving money for the Top of the line Samsung 55 TV , to play PS4 games on it .
brettyd  +   960d ago
Sony has better first party studios, thats the only reason I need.
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Polysix  +   960d ago

The specs in black and white. PS4 CLEAR winner there.
wtopez  +   960d ago
Everyone loves to throw specs around... until you throw in PC specs, then everyone gets their panties in a bunch. "The PS4 is way better @ $400 than an equally powered PC which will cost you around $7,000!!!!!." PS4>creation! Xbone=SIDS!
MysticStrummer  +   960d ago
PC specs don't matter because they aren't standard.

Gaming PCs are much less common than PCs with original off the shelf hardware. PC gamers just can't admit that for some reason.
wtopez  +   960d ago
Since we are talking about gaming, assume it's for gaming.
Destrania  +   960d ago
Anyone in their right mind will stick with Sony. There's a plethora of reasons to go with Playstation if you're a gamer. Far better hardware at a better price to the consumer, continued support for PS3 and Vita, more exclusives, better exclusives, more variety/creative exclusives, exclusive f2p games, exclusive indie games and self publishing for indie devs, consumer friendly attitude/policies/business, developer and gamer love, etc. etc., the list could go on forever (literally). We all know the reasons. Don't be dumb, be smart, buy a Playstation.
Grown Folks Talk  +   960d ago
I'm so sick of seeing "better exclusives" like it's a fact. They are better to YOU. Everybody doesn't have the same taste & like all the same things.
quiddd  +   960d ago
I don't know if this has been brought up but...........the Xbox One requires a day one patch to reverse everything that is associated with the DRM issue. And since M$ is now known for quick reversals, who is to say that in the future that they might implement the DRM policy in a whim?
PositiveEmotions  +   960d ago
I too feel the same way i have a feeling ps4 will be the winner because the king is back :)
quenomamen  +   960d ago
1. More Power
2. More Power
3. More Power
4. More Power
5. More Power
GABRIEL1030  +   960d ago
A good company give us trust and for me Sony has already a good and friendly policy with user with amazing products like PS+, Not DRM and not always online.
condemmedman  +   960d ago
Got to love Sony fan boys always harping on about the power. The ps3 had more power than the x box 360. Didn't stop me from using the 360 as my main console as the user interface on the ps3 is pants, bloody awful I'd say near on dreadful. On the 360 it's miles better I've played the exclusives and I'd say two or three are exceptional but that's it. I think the only thing that saved the ps3 was the blu ray, that tho does not mean I'm not considering the ps4 I just don't need a bunch of children telling me what console I need to buy.
oscarcat59  +   960d ago
I have one reason to get both. Games games games
SicilianGunner  +   960d ago
Forza looks amazing on xbox one idk tough choice for me
superterabyte  +   960d ago
I agree with you Forza does look great but I've always preferred Gran Turismo not because it's the better game but because I believe it has the better racing mechanics and rives like nothing else. It's a shame they only release once a millenium.
humbleopinion  +   960d ago
And it's a bigger shame that their once a millennium release is actually not as good as the competition, not to mention having worse racing mechanics. GT lost the throne somewhere in the Xbox-PS2 days when Forza emerged while GT4 started declining from the greatness of GT3. The last gen was hardly a competition.
Mister_G  +   960d ago
PS4 for me.

I already pay for PS+, which is a great service and MS think so too which is why they copied it :)
dolkrak  +   960d ago
Yeah, it's not even close now. PS4 > XB1 in every way.

Price, power, exclusives quality, exclusives quantity, subscription value, game streaming (Gaikai)...
GamingFan1  +   960d ago
Its like A bunch of kids dad can beat up your dad!!!

Somedays I'm ashamed to admit I'm A gamer....
superterabyte  +   960d ago
Also name one field in life where you don't get conflict between opposing beliefs! for example:
Politics: Ideology vs Ideology
Music: Genre vs Genre
Film: Genre vs Genre Actor/Director v Actor/Director
Sport: Team vs Team - Country v Country - Sport vs another sport

etc etc etc

You don't sound smarter for talking down to a group of people. My motto is that if you sit on the fence for too long you're gonna get a sore arse so get down and enjoy the debate maybe even add to it why not?

\Grammar Nazi\
Why do you keep putting 'a' in capital? It's so unnecessary! not to mention an incorrect use (and overuse) of the ellipses. It just frustrates me that if you're going to use punctuation in your comments then use it properly or just don't bother.
/Grammar Nazi/
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Hicken  +   960d ago
I'm with you on this one. I'm sick and tired of people complaining about folks taking sides like people don't take sides on every damn thing else in life.

To a certain degree, I don't have a problem with fanboys, because they're at least passionate. I much prefer them to people that sit in the middle with a fake-ass neutral stance. darth comes to mind around here.

To the article: I could probably come up with a dozen reasons, but all I need to know is that they won't be pulling the sort of crap MS already has.
user71484  +   960d ago
I have a confession to make as well....I hate fanboys. I love Uncharted and Resistance as much as I love Halo and Gears of War. Broaden your horizon fanboys. You'll never find anything new in life with a closed mind.
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