Jonathan Bester from ITF Gaming writes: It would seem the Xbox One has re-secured it’s place as a guaranteed purchase for consumers after many doubts by consumers over it’s DRM and used game policies.
problem is they can't ship to many consoles this year, that is why many countries wont get it, and why they can't take more orders then they do in the USA . a big reason they don't lower the price is because their are enough Xbox fans to buy all that is offered in the high price. that is because they decided to live with low yield problem and not down-clock the XB1, but that leads to a smaller number of working units.
This was a really smart post. Good points. Makes perfect sense. They will likely lower the price once they sell to all the ppl willing to spend $500. If you can only make 300k X1s this year and there are 400k ppl like me ready to spend $500 on it, it would be absolutely nonsensical to lower the price.
newmonday any confirmation links of all that....you seem to have an awful lot of information only a person working intimately with the X1 design would know, lol and I'm the one accused of being a Microsoft employee?
@miDnIghtEr20C_SfF & JokesOnYou & gamertk421 the yield problems are real, they had 2 options, down-clock or get less working units, they went for the second option. problem is MS still have to pay the cost of the un-usable manufactured parts, and that is why they cant take a big hit on the price. right now they want to maintain a low distribution but large sell thru and the price will stay the same till next year at least. in the business side it's a very interesting fight between MS and Sony.
WTF you all talking about chaaa.... ? http://www.youtube.com/watc... and who in the hell would want to read all over again what policies MS have now for xbone, it seems they can change it every month.... I dont trust that kind of business...
You still don't even know if that's true about low yield problems. You're just going off of Cboat. Ya, he's right at times, but also wrong too.
Not sure if accurate, but didn't MS actually say there were no yield issues? This is significant only because if they did, and they usually don't speculate on rumors, then it is a message they clearly wanted public, in order to refute said rumor. Unless it was Harrison. No one knows what that bloke will say, lol.
Exactly. Just like they just came out yesterday to debunk the family share they were going to have being only for hour demos. It was for full games. Sometimes insiders are wrong.
Greenberg said the comment was "false", but he didn't say what the "true" policy is, it's an age old PR trick, you have to word the question very clearly and not leave room for maneuver to get the truth out of him, like talking to a crossroads demon. lets say "I have 9 games in my library, 9 people in my family sharing list are playing one separate game each at the same time, can they play indefinitely as long as they are connected?"
I just find it unfortunate that websites are spewing all this support for the console when Microsoft showed their clear, anti-consumer, agenda with them at the start of their announcements. Do not forget the company that tried to take your consumer rights from you because have no doubt they will try to do it again. This isn't an attack against the "console" itself, rather than the company behind it so be clear on that. I'm all about having a variety of games and ways to play them, but be careful who you get in bed with.
Hopefully they've learned that choice is paramount to innovation. I myself loved what they were trying to accomplish, but hated the way it was presented, and how the information was disseminated. Many aren't quite ready to take that drastic of a leap, but may opt in to it in 2-3 years when online services are much more robust than they are now. The policies they were trying to implement were not popular, but I believe a big part of that was because they did a horrendous job of explaining why each of those policies were implemented. Oh well, now they know that the next jump will probably require baby steps to achieve.
There will always be enough people who are willing to get screwed over and still pay for the pleasure. The human race is a sad set.
They have the same policies as Sony does now. They are on an even playing field now.
Yes but if it wasnt for SONY/consumers/getting belted in the pre-orders they would have continued and screwed people too lame to stand up. I am not one of those sheep and will not easily forgive or forget what they tried to do. If someone tries to screw your wife but you catch them first does that make it OK?
Not really an even field. Sony has their services outside their paywall. Netflix and movie services. F2P games like warframe and planetside 2. All of this does not require ps+. So far, gold is still required for like functions on xbo. Yes they both allow trading of used games and offline play, but those were not the only policies separating them. I like that they made the changes, but it still has not showed me that it is for us, the gamers, and not because of pressure from gamestop like stores or preorder discrepancies between ps4 and xbo.would they have changed if those 2 factors were not there?
@koolaid they are not on the same playing field as sony at all, sony doesnt require kinect they dont need AA batteries in the controllers the ps4 is 50 percwnt more power and is 1oo dollars cheaper.and sony has not lied to customers or keep switching thier mind on stuff over and over. so please explain how they are on the same playing field I just
No they do not. On Live, you MUST pay to subscribe to Live to do ANYTHING online. Anything online lives behind a paywall. -Multiplayer -free 2 play -Netflix -Web browser -Aracade -x game chat PS4, the subscription for 50$ is required for multiplayer titles which cost money only. F2p Web browser Netflix X game chat PS store minis all still free to use. To say their policies are equal is to be lying.
I think this is good. I dont want Microsoft getting kicked out of the console market because there will be no competition then, and things will get really bad. Competition is good, choice is good.
M$ loves taking advantage of the consumer. They love to scam and lie. They are providing a far inferior product for a higher price. The CEO's are complete A$$ holes and have proved they don't actually care about the consumer or developers for that matter. Btw, compare launch line-ups, PS has WAY more exclusives. They are more spectacular, creative, unique, and varied as well. Don't be dumb, be smart, buy a Playstation.
They definitely made the right choice by dropping all the bullsh*t policies, but I still don't see the Xbox One as the better product. -The Xbox One has less powerful hardware. -The Xbox One is more expensive. -Sony offers several services (Netflix, for example) outside of the paywall. -Kinect is still required for the Xbox One to operate. -While PS+ may be required for most multiplayer games, F2P games like Planetside 2 can still be played without. -Only one PS+ account is needed on a PS4 in order for all other accounts on the system to play online. -Superior indie support. I will give the Xbox One this though, it does have more exclusives at launch; however, if their track records are anything to go by, then the PS4 will almost assuredly have just as many or even more exclusives than the Xbox One throughout its life cycle.
Know what's awesome about ps4? I can turn it on and play for a little while, then when I want to go to the bar for a little while, I can bring my Vita and continue playing Warframe online for free, from my Vita, from my barstool. I'm sorry, but the remote play mandate is just so effing cool it makes me drool. Long as there is WiFi, there is handheld next Gen on the go. Nothing competes with that.
A random vote with a base of 1000 ppl is much more indicative of than actual preorders, where btw, the PS4 is slaughtering the Xbox One. Slaughtering.
Most people do not pre-order though. I rarely do it.
Hahahaha you guys are funny .
Only it isn't level ps4 is still more powerful and cheaper. And ms is still losing in pre order sales. Also from what I have seen ( admittedly just on this site and maybe inaccurate) ps4 will have more available at launch then Xbox1. And not for nothing but your average consumers don't follow up on news, on tv one night they seen ms policies they did not like made up their minds, and stopped looking into it. Plus I have heard no one say " now I am canceling my ps4 order for Xbox1" Just people saying they now won't cancel their pre orders.
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