MP1st - "During the hustle and bustle of E3 2013, I had the chance to sit down with Craig Flannagan, Microsoft Director of Marketing, to talk about some of the Xbox One‘s more unique features: The Cloud and the Kinect."
“The cloud is a really important part of it,” he reassured. “Xbox One is going to be the best place to play games and a big reason for that is that games come alive because of the cloud. So, the game that you get on that first day is going to change. It’s going to be a different game. It’s going to evolve, have living worlds, worlds that change, worlds that persist. What we’re doing is we’re giving developers a palette so they can create games they wouldn’t be able to create anywhere else.” Still waiting for an example of this.
For the ones who don't believe in "The power of the cloud" This guy explains it best. http://www.reddit.com/r/xbo...
Well its not that I don't "believe" I'm sure its there. I just want MS to give us some kind of demonstration of it.
I believe it but it just isn't as strong as MS is trying to let on. Why don't they inform us on the numerous limitations? The consumers need to know the strengths and weaknesses of the cloud.
All of this is theoretical & wishful thinking. The things they want to off load don't strain machines at all I want technical details of how they'll overcome latency & bandwidth. Also the amount of money needed for the processing they propose would cost billions, more than they would make on the Xbox One.
thanks for the link Mystogan. that was an excellent read. MS has spent 9 billion on the cloud.. damn online gaming is going to get awesome :)
What a load of bolloxs. The cloud is not magical
They talk about persistant worlds.... don't we already have those in pretty much EVERY MMO?
Nope MMO worlds are running locally.
No they aren't. Only the textures and assets are on the local hardware. The rest is on huge servers around the world. That's the only reason MMO's can have huge public events, server side updates,and the rest without having to download an update.
How can people disagree with you. Mmo are not run locally. Dam there are some dumb shits on this site or we are being infestated with Microsoft shills.
They run off of apache servers similar to how PSN and XBL were ran last gen. So I'm sorry but you have no idea what you are talking about.
Clouds are in the sky
Not true, clods Sometimes decend into the surface forming mist.
Folks are underestimating how Microsoft will utilise the cloud in games. . I like what forza doing with it so far. .
gran turismo does the same thing, you race a few laps, the game learns your style of racing and the computer ai takes over and drives in your style im all for ai getting better, but ms didn't mention anything about the ai of the computer controlled drivers getting better, they just mentioned that your ai driver will race in your style, which has been done all ready if your racing you really want to drive against real players and your connection will be used up to keep you up to date in the current game, having a bunch of cloud computing going on in the background for every player would introduce serious lag issues, it could work for a game like gta being a single player but that's up to rockstar and are they willing to put even more effort into making there game
Yes but That's using the local Cpu. The cloud liberates the cup of task that take up ram, allowing developers to use that ram on other things.
Its Microsoft, the cheapest, un-innovative company in the gaming world! Between all the restrictions, the weaker specs the rumors of yield problems, their reputation for over-hyping under delivering since their existence and we are suppose to believe them? They have a terrible reputation and rightfully so this is all smokes and mirrors and will cost the end user more fees. You want a real gaming console with quality games, genre defining exclusive get a SONY console you can never go wrong with a Playstation! Playstation fan since PS1 will be till the very end!
Un innovative?? How exactly does the PS4 innovate? At least the X1 comes with TV capabilities and Kinect 2. They ARE being innovative. The PS4 is just A better PS3 with the only difference being in the controller and a terrible looking UI. Even worse then XMB. Where is Sony being innovative here?
You can't have a civilize Xbox article on N4G without having annoying trolls posting the same thing over and over again. We need to bring back the Open Zone.
Right because adding tv to a game console is innovative, thats why I have a cable box, or kinect completly revolutionized the way we play our games right!! Oh by the way its called an eye toy you should look it up it was created over 10 yrs ago! Blu ray wifi, yeah welcome to 2006 where it was standard on every ps3 console. And so what if the ps4 is an improved ps3 if SOny's record of delivering quality games with ps3 was an indicator we are in for one hell of a threat come ps4! Try harder noob you have piss poor taste in game consoles and xbox one is the biggest piece of crap ever created! But enjoy your weaker console, your forced kinect and your 100$ more price tag! If you owned a playstation console we wouldnt even be having this conversation! Because playstation gamers know quality, xbox not so much!
I don't know about "innovative" its become a overused buzz word for just about any new piece of electronics. ...however so has the phrase "I already have a cable box", "I already have a remote", "I already have a pc", "I already have entertainment center", I already have a blah, blah, blah",....yeah sure you do but intergration is CONVENIENT, just as smart phones exploded because of cameras, internet, apps, save important, wifi, etc= all in one devices or do you still have a basic cell phone that can only make and receive phone calls? I mean its called progress when companies make products that can either do MORE by itself or integrates seamlessly with other products we use on a daily basis, it doesn't mean there aren't standalone devices that have a single purpose. Sony making just another great gaming console is fine too but you cant knock another product simply because it has bigger ambitions to provide a user friendly platform that intergrates with othet forms of entertainment. Now if they were doing all these other things while barely providing games for the console, then naturally this would be a valid reason for criticism but clearly they are not as demonstrated by E3 and their 1 billion investment into new studios/ future games.
You see d-dogg, I just don't get it, if you was a gamer did you not own a Sega Mega drive/ Genesis? Did you not own a Suoer Nintendo/Famicom? Did you ever sit looking at your Amiga 500 admiring the power you had in front of you? Did you ever put together a ZX81? What about games magazines, did you ever buy those like "mean machines" in the UK and sit there typing some crappy code into your ZX spectrum..... Or is it a case that the PS1 was your first console and you became one of the PlayStation generation? If it wasn't for Nintendo you wouldnt have been playing any PS1 If your a gamer.... You play games.... Not sit there like a douche spewing your loyalty to a company who has no clue our care who you are... Gaming is about games
Agreed! I agree, and in those times those companies were not ripping you off nor were they taking your consumer rights away were they? This is not about loyalty my loyalty is to the company that gives me the best bang for my buck as a consumer and also the best games!! I used to game on nintendo who didn't when they were young? But i out grew it and moved to a more mature type of experience! But does that mean that I have to be forced to pay for online play when the competition doesn't? Does that mean I have to give my consumer rights for DRM or a force kinect that I don't want just because "I'm a gamer" and I technically should love all games?? NO im a consumer who loves games difference! I have a certain amount of money and time and I go for the best quality simple as that! Why would I pay over 500$$ for a piece of shit console to just play one game?? It makes no sense! Sorry MS has done nothing to the industry! They are cancer and most of the practices ( Paying internet, DLC, Microtransaction and RROD) all originated from MS. Cutting portions of games because their hardware is inferior is detrimental to the industry and thast why they gotta go!
Microsoft wasnt always like this, you do.remember the first xbox? It was the first Console with an internal storage device and was the most Powerful of its time. Sure the people who made the original xbos are gone but people come and go. And you have to Understand those peole can be anyone.
MS seems to be really pushing cloud with xbox one... just like what Sony pushed Blu-ray with PS3. only time will tell if it is worth it or not.
@nix cloud is the future of digital entertainment, their ain't no getting away from that, the way we watch movies, listen to radio, purchase music, its all heading that way, its just dependent on how well its implicated, your right when you say its like when Sony pushed bluray, look now.. Bluray is everywhere. We are a connected society in today's age
And also the kinect, remember when people thought blueray was a gimik. Well lets just wait and see to determine wheather the kinect is still a gimik or the innovation of the generation.
Utilizing the cloud sounds awesome,Sony asked developer's what they would like on the ps4,so then why did they not mention cloud computing?
Sony does not have the resources to build 300.000 servers. They'd go bankrupt.
You are thick as shit
Just found out PS 4 can do cloud computing. http://n4g.com/news/1283531...
Not in the way the X1 can.
Your getting dumber
@ forcefullpower, you mind shutting your oriffice please, you fanboys are like brainless brutes filled with emotional Insecurities. But getting agrees for these coments makes you Feel better Doesn't it Little man?
Hilarious. People saying sony fans know quality. As if they've never had a poor launch or poor FP exclusives. Heavenly Sword/Lair/Resistance 2&3/lbp2/ps All Stars and many more would like to have a word with you. And did you forget that ps3 came out at $600? That the launch was so terrible that the executives gave a public apology, bowing their heads in shame? You guys like to pretend that Sony is perfect or something, like they've never blundered. Hell, remember the failure rate of ps2's? Oh wait, no one brings that up...I mean, who wants to talk about that? Horrible design choice in hardware bites them in the ass till the ps2 slim comes out, but we'll just ignore that and just talk about RROD like it's the first time in the history of video games that something like that has happened. smh...
Also, yes the ps4 CAN do cloud computing, but not nearly in the capacity of the X1. Remember the four DME's that are in the xbox one? Those are meant for high-bandwidth compression/decompression. They have direct access to the display panes and can route through the north bridge straight out to the ethernet port. No hit on the GPU/CPU. The PS4 does not have that capability or the hardware to pull that off. They also don't have the infrastructure in place to apply that kind of work load globally without further latency. When you're Microsoft and your Azure server farms total somewhere around 2 million servers worldwide, you can partition from each farm for x1 computation. Gaikai has nowhere near that big of an infrastructure to rely on. When you get down to it, yes Sony can implement cloud computation...but nowhere near the level of xbox one. It was simply not designed for it.
Didn't know that about the DME's neither, it's amazing how much you can learn from here when people talk straight information
Isn't the reversal of online check in going to call this into question? Since it was basically there to promote an always online situation, now that its gone, devs wont be able to rely on cloud computing. If they make it an active part of a game, that game will only suffer. Nevermind the returning issues of prolonged service interruption and bandwidth.
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