Bethesda's Peter Hines said recently that the developer has nothing in store for the Wii U. He added that he didn't want to elaborate on why that was.
Just come out and say you don't like the system. :\ It's unfortunate that the Wii U is losing so much traction. The future of the console is quite uncertain at this point. I don't expect it to fail or anything, but I'm just not sure how it's going to win back developer support.
It is probably the small install base and lack of sales more than not liking the console. The gamepad could be good in games like Skyrim and Fallout. It was so annoying pausing battles to change my spell on my left hand or use potions. The gamepad could easily fix that and other small annoyances.
I'm amazed about the amount of people who is complaining abouy the game pad, they don't realize the amount of potential it can give, how it incridibly make a complicated controls,menues or inventory system so easy, it's a very useful input and output tool. I want to say to those people: your lack of imagining will keep you from enjoying a lot of things in life.
If that's the case then why are they developing on two consoles with zero install base. You would think from a business perspective that developers like this would seek as many platforms as possible or at least develop on one without any competition in its prospective genre.
once other developers see how to make a game for wiiU. . once they see one of nintendos true creations on the wiiU, then will they truly learn and see the advantage and DEEP innovation of a second gaming screen for same game . .dude . even pikmin 3, not gonna break records, but set standards . . it will (: this is Nintendos Land < fact . . .
I don't it's that companies don't like the system but more as they see the WiiU as risk and don't want to take the chance.
That is really the only way to put it. Same thing with the Vita. An HD portable? Who WOULDN'T want to develop for that? These two consoles are seen as such big risks that they cannot even secure a decent amount of AAA ports.
@Zodiac You're right, at least Nintendo realized that they have to develop first party games to sell consoles, Sony is playing the Indie card, lets hope that they play the right card after...
Slow start doesn't mean nothing...even PS3 had a slow start, and look at it now haha. Games are everything.
Why did people disagree with what you said? You stated merely facts. PS3 had an awful slow start, Sony was even considering not releasing another console again. But look at the PS3 now! Wow, amazing games, lots of support! No more shoddy ports! And PS4 is ready to kick some butt~
Well cause it is completely different scenarios between each launch of the PS3 and WiiU.
Well the Wii had an explosive start and pretty much completely fizzled out by the end of 2010. Good games had very little to do with the Wii's mainstream success.
Yeah, wii U is missing the blockbuster it needs to get going. It at least had a decent go, not the best but a decent go at it's start. 3 million is still pretty good. I'm not sure if it'll ever get the best 3rd party support next gen. But shit. I gotta see what Nintendo does with HD graphics. 1 thing that could turn things around though. If the cost of developing at the graphics level of xbone or ps4 becomes too much. Then there is a possiblity that the 3rd parties might focus almost entirely on wii u for the 2nd half of the console cycle and port it up to the other two consoles. But that's a long shot from fuck. Both one/ps4 use pc architecture. What's more likely is 3rd parties will develop for pc's first and port to the other two.
I actually don't think the PS3 had that bad a start as people thought. Since it's release. YOY, it has outsold the 360 in Worldwide sales. Of course if you compare it with the PS2 it was slow - but it was $300 MORE..
People think exact same scenario as PS3 and WiiU launch, huh ok. Ps3 launched a year after the 360 launched and it had alot of momentum. Plus it was launching pretty much same time as Wii that had alot of hype due to motion control gaming. Thats excluding the high price tag the PS3 had compared to the wii that was launching at same time. The WiiU launched 6 years after last gens consoles and is out pretty much 2 years before next gen consoles come out. Has no competition for next gen console. Comes out a consumer decent price. So how is these 2 even comparable?
Nintendo had some balls to launch a "next gen" console in 2012 with 2GB DDR3 RAM. Seriously Nintendo, 2GB (1GB reserved for OS)? My smartphone has 2GB RAM. IMHO, it is entirely N'do fault about the lackluster sales of WU . I wouldn't blame developers for a single thing behind WU failure.
Just like Sega had the balls to launch a "next-gen" console in 1999 with 16MB RAM and 200Mhz CPU? Or how Sony had the balls to launch a "next-gen" console in 2000 with 32MB RAM and 300Mhz CPU?
Exactly. DDR3-1600 has been dirt cheap for years now. 2GB would have been laughable in 2009. At least the XBone has 8GB DDR-2133 and a much higher total bandwidth (68.3GB/s vs 12.8GB/s). And IIRC PS3/360 were both above 20GB/s. Wii U is about what Nintendo launching an HD console in 2008 should have looked like.
@mrbojingles Stop being such pathetic nintendrone, there is more than 5 times the performance gap between the Wii U and next gen consoles than Sega and Sony back in the day. Not to mention Wii U's gpu tech dates back to 2008, for fucks sake... Wii U is just too little, too late.
The ball is in Nintendo's park for attracting both consumers and developers onto their platform. We are approaching the end of its first fiscal year and there still hasn't been many worthwhile games that are not ports...thus no substantial sales and no strong third party support. Someone has to make the first move, and that "someone" might be the first party responsible for the platform.
no surprise here. They don't even remember developing a game for Nintendo System.
Sad, because a game like Skyrim or Fallout would work SO WELL with the GamePad. I'll be the first to admit the gamepad almost entirely useless for most game genres, but it was MADE for RPGs. Quick managing your entire inventory/character skill trees/equipment/spells, ect all at the touch of the screen + being able to have the entire map and being able to jot down notes, mutliple waypoints, ect!! Man, it's a damn shame they're not supporting the system with a controller that amazing.
How can you loose something you never had? That makes no sense.
Nintendo should be at every 3rd party studio trying to win Wii U support
Every Japanese Third Parties fuck the Western. They cry cause their games don't sell. Like really. When they put no effort or money into the Nintendo Version. Or Marketing. How many time do you see a Third Party game that get market the hell out of from Nintendo system besides Sonic.
I like how 3rd Parties expected their games to sell well. All the third party games on WiiU were late ports of old games. Give it a game that releases for WiiU at the same as its other platform counterparts then we'll see how sales really hold up.
I remember when someone at Nintendo stated that they don't pay for exclusives well, that wouldn't sound like a bad idea right about now ;)
so dont get a wii-u then, okay.
I spit some of my sprite out. Just a little bit.
Just a little bit?? Thank god!! :O I was stressing out about the quantity of your spilled beverage. Glad to know it wasn't alot lol xD On topic: Not good Ninty, wtf are guys doing over there??? In your Nintendo offices & stuff, GET your head out of the gutter and give the WiiU some decent advertisement!
Well I guess it's mostly due to the small install base. I myself don't really have much of a problem with that, shame though as the gamepad could really function well with their games. I'll play fallout 4 or the next elder scrolls on my PC or PS4. And hey it's not like my Wii U will miss out on any RPG love when it has this bad boy coming next year http://www.youtube.com/watc... http://www.youtube.com/watc... A game with huge world, transforming mechs and freaking huge dinosaurs to fight, yeah you can definitely count me in. Not to mention they have Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem coming as well although I'm not quite certain how that game is gonna be.
Well, that's easy for you to say since you don't own a Wii U ;) I hope Nintendo are aware of this because they need a tremendous wake up call how about they start investing MORE into their first party ip's.
Is that why six first party games are releasing this year? How about YOU wake up and stop trying to spread this lie that all of their content is not coming out until 2014?
Um dude last time I checked they had 6 first party games coming for the rest of this year. Also the RPG I mentioned up there (Monolith Soft's "X") is a first party game. They have 2 more first party games confirmed to be coming next year plus they're publishing Bayonetta 2 and they haven't even confirmed whether Yarn Yoshi or Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem will be coming next year. And that's only the Wii U. I haven't even mentioned the 3DS at this point. So they definitely are investing in their first party IPs. And if Nintendo Directs throughout this year and last year have been any indication they'll announce even more stuff as the year goes on. Nintendo needs definitely needs to get some third party support on it but that ain't happening until they increase their install base, Ubisoft themselves said that. I'm really interested to see if the games Nintendo is releasing for the rest of this year (hopefully along with a pricecut) will have an impact on the sales of the Wii U.
It's funny, because if the WiiU had the same power as X1 I'm sure devs would be climbing all over it. No one wants to bet against graphics, and the poor marketing of the WiiU sure didn't help with its appeal
The Wii U could be as powerful as the PS4 and western developers would find some way to avoid it. It's not hate toward Nintendo, it's a total indifference to all Nintendo does.
Graphics are easy to sell, a controller/tablet hybrid on a console isn't. Not to blast PS4 on its power (it brings quite a bit to the market), but people isntantly pick up on graphics and a reliable control system. Graphics and power dominate the discussion of video games so often it's hard to ignore it. Wii tried to shake-up the discussion though the appearance of tons of shovelware only really Nintendo and a few devs benefitting from it turned others sour. I feel like the video game industry as a whole made Nintendo toxic. So many devs tried to cash-in on the casual market that only Nintendo were the ones putting out amazing games again and again.
@Kevlar009 Whenever I hear a discussions on games and the primary focus is graphics and/or specs I immediately tune out. So it's quite easy for me to ignore. The Wii brought in new gamers and older ones. That is how it changed the discussion. The majority of the shovelware on the Wii came from the very 3rd parties who are now shunning the Wii U. In fact, the titles that sold well payed for many a AAA 3rd party title, which benefited only them not Nintendo.
Your funny because wiiu has a better gpu then xbox one end of,Custom E6760 with tons of edram ????
The technical specifications being the primary reason. No way it can run whatever new games they're working on.
Bethesda hasn't exactly been known for making very hardware-intensive games. They're actually pretty easy to run, if buggy at times.
Well, Bethesda won't be missed. .
They were never there to begin with.
That's very true, but in my opinion they are mediocre anyway.
I agree with that "Gollum".
They don't need to say why, pretty much everyone knows. Wii U install base is too small, making a game for Wii U which utilizes the console is costly and with Wii U install base it's kind of scary. There's a big risk which can't be ignored. 3rd party games will come to Wii U if the install base increased significantly.
It'll be interesting to see if they release their next game on the Xbox One and the PS4, because I'm pretty sure they'll have a smaller install base (when the game comes out, anyway).
Fine by me as I don't have a Wii U, but it is a bit of a shame that, if the case is that they don't know how their IPs would fair on the console, they don't even TRY to find something that they can make that would appeal to that particular demographic, but that also fits their skill-set. I bet they could make something awesome and unique if they got the push, or green light from the higher ups.
What is about nintendo that no one wants to make games for their consoles, wth happens behind closed doors!
They can't compete against Nintendo IPs or Japanese IP and Franchises are on it.
So dont relesse next to mario zelda or any of the other popular games.. Look at cod... No one comes close to competeing with those sales yet we get fps after fps
You missed my point. I am talking about Nintendo System. ON NINTENDO PLATFORM Call of Duty don't sell more than 2m.
First off, I will always prefer Nintendo till I stop playing games. Bethesda has no games for Wii U; their games won't be missed. Without sounding to cocky, I will not be buying another console either. The Wii U is a powerful console. Not as powerful as the PS4 but for me it'll do. To be absolutely clear and being my opinion, Monolith Soft X looked better than anything that was at E3. I watched that trailer from CVG (Computer and Video Games) over and over. Without playing, I know that game is for me. I also watched the Watch Dogs gameplay from Jimmy Fallon for the PS4 and then from the Nintendo direct third party games (if you watch the X trailer from CVG, Nintendo 3rd party trailer will show up with other trailers next). While both games don't look next gen, they both look the same which is good enough for me. The Zelda: Wind Waker looks stunning. But it's not a celebration cause Nintendo need much more first party games like X, but it's definitely a start. Call Of Duty: Ghosts is not coming to the Wii U and that game will be missed.
Wow, you're just a rabid Nintendrone aren't you?
And you must be a Sony junkstatusdrone aren't you? Lol
We know how it works. Either the system has too small of an install base or they don't want to compete with Nintendo. Nothing to see here, move along.
Its not about not liking the system. When was the last time Bethesda released a game on any Nintendo device let alone actually announcing anything? They ignored the DS, Wii, & 3DS so it stands to reason they would continue the trend with the Wii U. The only thing I'm surprised about was the lack of FallOut at E3.
Sux because enhanced ports of Fallout/Skyrim could really show how useful the gamepad is and could have solved many of those series' biggest problems. My guess is that they are going all out into the MMORPG and those wont do so hot as it is, espcially on a syustem not designed for that kind of stuff. Oh well, I will have a ps4 to play their games if so desired anyway. The lack of support form a developer that has never released a game on a nintendo platform should not be seen as a loss. its status quo for Nintendo. They only focus on their first party stuff and let the third parties decide on whatever they want. Does Nintendo really need third parties anyway? Especially considering all of the indie supprt they have in the pipelines because of their self publishing allowance on the eshop? Id rather have a shit-ton of great indie games than a bunch of half baked ps/xbox ports. What 3rd party games really sell on the 3ds? Last I checked, I only have one or two 3rd party 3ds games that are worth owning. Everything else is 1st party nintendo. They really do know how to sell and support their own system once they get the damn ball rolling. 3ds is doing crazy good and there are no ea or bethesda games (that matter) out for that. The biggest 3rd party publihsers are reduced to dust on the 3ds and it outsells the home consoles considerably. The more these companies diss nintendo the more they have to prove. Personally, I would LOVE to see them team up with Sony, just bring the gampad and all that Nintendo goodness over to the ps4 adn it will sell like crazy, but Im good with the wii U. Its a great system regardless of what these schlocks say.
Bethesda didn't make any decent Wii games (Medieval Games anyone?) so why is this news to anyone and why would anyone make a story out of this? Oh that's right, hit grabbing and the continuation of the Nintendo is doomed agenda in the press.
"Bethesda: No Wii U games from us and we don't want to say why" good your games are all shit anyway.
We all know when it looks grim they will just make the Pokemon MMO everyone has been begging for and that will solve everything. Wishful thinking eh.
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