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Submitted by Rearden 964d ago | news

Satoru Iwata talks about Nintendo’s limitations

Nintendo can't do this alone. Iwata addresses the lack of third party Wii U and 3DS support. (3DS, Nintendo, Wii U)

overlordror  +   964d ago
Glad they're finally acknowledging they have some problems they need to work out.
SpiralTear  +   964d ago
Acknowledgement is only the first step. Iwata's been apologizing for months now about the Wii U, yet we haven't seen too much new for the system, not even at E3. It looks great, but...what else?

Nintendo just needs to step things up now. I mean, their history in consideration, it's not like it's impossible for them to succeed, even at this point.
bullymangLer  +   964d ago
dude no matter how u wanna look at it, NIntendo is in the lead over sony and microsoft < fact, regardless of saLes .. . (:

sad thing is even marios new CAT suit in mario 3D land for wiiU is more CREATEive than all of The Last of Us game (;
linkenski  +   964d ago
bullymangLer: What? How is the most generic Mario game next to the crapload of NSMB games less generic than one of the finest and most polished video game creations to this date? I'm a huge Nintendo fan, I'm playing Animal Crossing right now, I have a Gamecube, I have a Wii and i support them, but saying the Last of Us is uncreative is an insult to the people who put their time and thoughts into it.

It's one of the best games i've ever played, maybe not top 5 (OoT will always be top) but you can't come and say that it sucks especially not if you haven't even played it.

Did it not strike you that Mario is starting to become a milked franchise? The cat suit is just a revision of the Racoon suit. Anyone could've come up with that. As for that game, it's just Mario 3D Land in HD and with co-op. That's not the evolution of Mario fans were looking for.
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bullymangLer  +   964d ago
nnehh h
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greenlantern2814  +   964d ago
well maybe if they let 3rd party or indy devs put stuff on their eshop and get some of the profits they would have a better relationship with them.
gamer42  +   964d ago
I thought Indie devs could price their games at whatever they wanted in the eShop so they can make profit, am I mistaken?
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greenlantern2814  +   964d ago
You are mistaken for Indy or 3rd parties to get money for eshop they have to hit a certain amount of money made.
EliteGameKnight  +   964d ago

Actually, developers make income on every unit sold, they dont have to meet a threshold. It was evolved from the Wiiware/DSIware system to allow it to be easier for indies. They are also able to choose the price of their games to further sales if they so choose.

Here's a source:

article is aimed at indie, I dont know how it is for third party, but I figure it is a similar system

in response to your statement about letting indie companies make money on the Wii U.

Every game put on a digital store has the owner of said store take a percentage of the profit. it is this way with PSN, XBLA, Steam, and E-shop. I believe that Nintendo takes 10%/20% of E-shop income, I could be wrong, in which case a $10 game would earn nintendo $1/$2 of the profit.
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exfatal  +   964d ago
your comment just showed you no nothing about whats going with Nintendo and are just speaking for the sake of being part of the "its cool to hate on nitnendo" bandwagon. yes nintendo has alot of work to do when coming with relationships with 3rd party developers but for indies they have alot of control and support on the Wii u as of late and it's showing with the support they are giving the Wii U
greenlantern2814  +   964d ago
Defend them if you want but the fact is for any one putting stuff on eshop to make money first the game has to make so much money.
And if their is so much support for the wiiu where is it. And of course any body who doesn't sing the praises of Nintendo is just jumping on the hating Nintendo band wagon.
And I joined that band wagon when Nintendo came out with the piece of crap Wii.
deafdani  +   964d ago
Nope. That was the Wii's Wiiware service. Nintendo has turned things around completely for the Wii U's eShop, and pretty much every indie developer that's made anything for Wii U only talks about how great Nintendo is to work with now.
Timesplitter14  +   964d ago
Nintendo needs an actual next-gen console aimed at people who play games.
Kietz  +   964d ago
They have that. It's called the Wii U.
"Next gen" is just a term now used by by children to whine about the tech of a machine.
As for games, face it, Nintendo has the most consistent lineup of quality, first-party releases around. People knock them for always releasing the same handful of titles, but there's not another company in the industry who would be able to manage such a thing.
Nintendo is, and will be, doing just fine. Not only in the handheld market, but the console market. Let some of the already announced titles release, and then lets see if the system is still dead in the water.
Still waiting for Vita to catch its stride. Not many on this site dare trash that thing.
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stuna1  +   964d ago
You sound just like one of the Xbox1 apologist! Just because you can continue to pull the wool over someones eyes doesn't mean you should.

I grew up on Nintendo, and from my standpoint it's definitely time for them to start taking some risks, and I don't mean in hardware either! Just because we grew up with the stigma of Nintendo consoles should be family friendly, doesn't mean that this generation of gamers want that!

I'm willing to bet that is exactly why their 3rd party support is lacking, because 3rd party doesn't want to be completely overshadowed by Nintendo 1st party. At some point it was up to Nintendo to develop some type of equalibrium between all parties involved! Let people make the type of games they want, without having to be shoehorned into control schemes that aren't fully understood or practicle.

I have faith in the Nintendo name, but I also realise times change, and things change with time! Nintendo should be one of those things. I'm not saying completely, but they need to learn to adapt better.

The term Next Gen is a term that be used to prove or disprove an arguement just in the context it's used, but those believing in the WII U abilities in context of competing in the arena with the Xbox1 and PS4....... Do I really need to say it!? This is not a fanboyish statement, this is "FACT"! Already there are games slated for release on the Xbox1 and PS4 that simply will not be able to be fit on the WII U without massive downgrades! This is no ones fault except Nintendo's , they underestimated the next gen consoles! As well as a lot of fanboys concerning specs, price, graphics, and games! Those same fanboys are quiet as Hell right about now.
exfatal  +   964d ago
i seriously feel like asking the age of who ever says that nintendo needs to have a next gen system when the Wii U is already out.

My money is there either 11-17 year old boys or men/women with that age mentality
greenlantern2814  +   964d ago
Or people who don't just blindly follow Nintendo and whatever they do.
TriforceLightning  +   964d ago
Sony and Microsoft need real next-gen consoles because all i saw from them were more graphics and software that we already have an abundance of now.
stuna1  +   964d ago
So where does Nintendo fit into that little statement of yours!?
MoreRPG  +   964d ago
Even with the limitations Nintendo still can make great games. They just need people with new ideas.
MisfitsInc  +   964d ago
my biggest issue with the Wii U, is that it's Nintendo's first HD console and their biggest games are 2-D platformers. if an HD Metroid game was available i would get a Wii U, but with the current games out i have no desire to get one.
TriforceLightning  +   964d ago
If an HD Metroid existed you would get it regardless, even it was 2-D; if you truly were a fan.
PigPen  +   964d ago
Nintendo will not get 3rd party support even though they want it. A lot of developers want Nintendo to go the way of Sega. Nintendo has to make Sony go the way of Sega to set this whole thing free. This is what I know, Sony has a junk status rating and sold a couple of buildings. They are now in talks to sell a part of their business. Fanboys rejoice cause PS4 is a hundred dollars less then the Xbox One, but Sony is taking a massive lost on its console to get them out the door. Microsoft and Nintendo need to imply more pressure to make it a reality. I know I know, why would I ever want something like that to happen right. Going through N4G from time to time since I left, I watched Sony fanboys dominate these articles with that Sony talk. So I have to give N4G a reality check. Lol
exfatal  +   964d ago
I would hate to have sony go away but these sonydrones definitely need a reality check. though i dont agree with nintendo never getting third party support. I just think its going to really hard and nintendo needs to show 3rd party developers the benefits of working with them(which in all honesty seems unlikely). Good news though nintendo is increasing there own development team so they can release more games... hope that happens.
TriforceLightning  +   964d ago
I believe 2014 is going to force alot of hand on the 3rd party side. The PS4 and Xbox 180 will sell respectively but so will the Wii U and ultimately it's the shareholders that will determine what goes to what platform when numbers don't add up. The higher development costs of the PS4 and Xbox 180 will be their downfall.
You will see more closures and less risks taken and the Wii U' greatly improved install base over the holidays combined with future 1st party software driving more sales, the Wii U will look mighty tempting to even the most apathetic of 3rd party developers. Mark my words. 6/22/13
stuna1  +   964d ago
Just how is that a reality check!? I might not always like the direction a company is going, but what you just suggested is about as fanboyish a statement that could be made! Especially with the thought of letting Microsoft have free reign of the industy.

You could bet your bottom dollar that Nintendo would be the next up for the chopping block!
PigPen  +   964d ago
You know smell the cup of coffee. And again I disagree cause Microsoft is still wet behind the ears. They never got the taste of being a generation leader. All the talk the fanboys make like Sony already won this generation, my fanboyish is as good as anyone.
darx  +   964d ago
I think Nintenod are in trouble.
MilkMan  +   964d ago
Nintendo will be fine. The line up is strong, if familiar. But they say they understand the issues. Now lets see what they do.
greenlantern2814  +   964d ago
Yeah sony has all the momentum right now and all you Nintendo and ms fan boys hate it. You call us sony fanboys like it is a bad thing. And if it is thAn so is being a ms fanboy or a Nintendo fanboy.
Ms turned on their heels to try and catch up with sony and while Nintendo fanboys say wiiu is doing fine when even Nintendo admits it is not. Ps2 crushed that gen, ps3 will sell for longer and most likely end up number 1 again. And ps4 is gonna win next gen
PigPen  +   964d ago
Don't trust these gaming sites and its fanboys, they make up 1% of the human population. So while Sony fans got together and dominated these sites as if they talk for the whole world, I alone disagree. There will always be a certain amount of hype when a console launch.
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   964d ago
Nintendo really needs to invest in a 2nd Party and have them create a good HD FPS IP and make sure it gets 3 sequels.

They also should try creating a Modern Open World even if they have to join forces with another developer.

Then they need to make sure that any title near/with "cORE"-visuals gets a digital or hardcopy debut in all Regions.
The begging for games and the holding back of titles like Monolith Soft's "Fatal Frame", was unnecessary.

In one Gen we won't be having this probelm anymore- and Nintendo will be versed in all areas of game development, West and East.
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HalfNerdHalfAmazing  +   964d ago
The Wii U gonna sell well this holiday season we got Pikmin coming in Aug 101 in Sep Wind Waker in Oct DK in Nov and Mario 3D World in Dec hopefully the Wii U sell enough boxes to get 3rd party Companies attention.
EliteGameKnight  +   964d ago
Take in mind I know my oppinion is worth a grain of salt...

I will simply say that I enjoy my Wii U, and I intend to enjoy either a PS4/XBO later down the road. Based on the previous posts some could say that I am simply blind to the idiocity of Nintendo. I am well aware of there mistakes and issues, I know that the Wii U may be weakest in the trio, but I ENJOY Nintendo games and I ENJOY my experience when playing the Wii U and that is enough for me.

I apologise for if I offended someone with my rant.

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