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Submitted by Rashid Sayed 456d ago | news

Forza 5 Developer Best Explains Cloud Technology: Create AI Agents to Win For You

"With all the fuss and confusion regarding what the Cloud can actually do, Turn 10 studios' Dan Greenawalt has explained how it will work for their upcoming racing simulator: Forza Motorsport 5." (Forza Motorsport 5, Xbox One)

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GentlemenRUs  +   456d ago
Then... What's the point in playing if a BOT does it all for you?

Ah well, Guess you can choose to turn it on and off!... I hope...
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Urusernamesucks  +   456d ago
The difference is the bot is having all the fun and your not.
Richard Cypher  +   456d ago
Again they try to make us think that the cloud thing add something to gaming but it won't in 99% of gaming style.
And it has been technically proven than it can't enhance real-time graphic.
dedicatedtogamers  +   456d ago
Press X to win.

I guess Forza is just taking cues from Ryse.
Loki86  +   456d ago
The amount of misinformed people on this site about both of these games is staggering, do some research.

Ryse all button prompts and slow down can be disabled with hardcore mode. Forza download AI then you get XP based on how your avatar does in these races ON OTHER CONSOLES.
AutoCad  +   456d ago
@dedicate isnt what you all do in god of war?
rdgneoz3  +   456d ago
@AutoCad Except Ryse will complete the cinematic kills for you even if you screw up the button prompts...

http://www.kotaku.com.au/20...
GameCents  +   456d ago
Yes dedicated, you are exactly right. When Forza 5 comes out, you'll pop it into the console and then press X and the game will be over.
Thank you so much for that wonderful insight. Now we don't need to hear from you in another Forza 5 article again because you've educated us so well.

Well done. Your parents must be proud.
LonDonE  +   456d ago
I am sorry but gran turismo 5 has b spec mode, where you coach bots to drive for you and earn you cars and money, and thats on PS3, whats so revolutionary about that? it was a waste of resources on gt5 and will also be a waste on forza, the garbage these devs come up with to milk the fans, instead of concentrating on things which matter, LOLOLOLOL
Loki86  +   456d ago
When your Avatar(refuse to say what it is actually called) is downloaded then you gain experience based on how your AI does on other consoles. You still play your game and earn experience as normal. Sounds pretty innovative and a good incentive to make the game harder.
kneon  +   456d ago
It sounds stupid to me. So you get XP without even playing, that's dumb. I thought the GT b spec was pretty much just filler to pad your wallet but this is even worse since you don't even have to do anything.
GentlemenRUs  +   456d ago
I hope there will be a way to turn this off, I like to play games... Not let some program do all the work for me :(

EDIT: I would also like a reason why people disagree, I'm all ears... I won't bite ;)
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The_Infected  +   456d ago
Would you rather race cars based off others driving than a AI controlled car? I know I would because it would be real and not AI coded drivers I'd be racing against.
edonus  +   456d ago
You are getting disagrees because what you are saying is stupid. I apologize if you really dont understand what it is talking about.

Heres a breakdown.
You play Forza5, as you play the way you play is recorded. Not a ghost but your style, like how you take corners and when and how do you shift are you aggressive do you recover well, are you reckless.
What you have just done is create the AI for the game.... not just your console but everyone everywhere and they just did t the same for you. You are driving against real peoples methods and styles of play so your opponents are truly dynamic.

The cool thing is that since you are human being and will not be playing the games 24/7 forever. What happens is your Driveatar(fancy name for your style of driving) is still living in cloud competing. If you do a really good job when you play you driveatar will be that much better. and what happens is that while its out there it can win prizes for you.

Its like your clone working in the virtual world earning for you.
kneon  +   456d ago
@Kratos_Kills

The concept is fine, but you shouldn't get XP for it, that's the dumb part

@edonus

This is not rocket science, the use of "cloud computing" in this context is overblown. They will simply parameterize your driving characteristics and feed that into their AI algorithm on the other console. It's not that difficult and doesn't really need cloud computing, only cloud storage so that your parameters can be accessed by others.
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darkslayer208  +   456d ago
they are just bluffing since xbone is 1.2 teraflops they want want to back it up with cloud shit and compete with PS4's 1.84 teraflops .. they think gamers are idiots and will never figure out what cloud is really for.. without cloud Xbone games will look bold and dull and i can guarantee that multi-platform games will look better in PS4 offline..
Haules  +   456d ago
In Forza 5 car plays you...
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GameCents  +   456d ago
It's a Microsoft game, quick lets nitpick it to death and pretend this feature will keep people from enjoying their game!

Everything Microsoft does is a way to stop gaming from being fun amarite?
I'm so tired of coming to the comment section of this site and being bombarded with nonsensical complaints about everything. Please keep your pessimist attitude in the forums.

I mean for crying out loud really? You really think a bot is going to "have all your fun"?

Again I ask, is there a class that you people take to spin everything xbox related into a negative?
GentlemenRUs  +   456d ago
"Again I ask, is there a class that you people take to spin everything xbox related into a negative?"

There must a class which you take to take a stab at anything when someone does not like a feature...
3-4-5  +   455d ago
When your not playing, your bot is being you, in other people's games.

Therefore, when you race AI...it's actually AI based on real players actions, not some set code.

It changes and adjusts all the time and becomes more like you the more you race.

It will make racing offline feel like you are racing online.

It's great for single player honestly, if it does actually work out that way.
Wikkid666  +   456d ago
Context is a terrible thing to waste.
Confickercrash  +   456d ago
All this and T10 can't even use the cloud to make rain.
The_Infected  +   456d ago
Haha you have a point. They should have night and day cycle and weather effects at least since its a next gen game. Driveclub has all that from what I understand although it doesn't look amazing yet the game is still in pre alpha stage and only 35% complete.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   456d ago
How come no one can be satisfied on here? Why is there always issues?

Why is it so hard for people to say "Forza looks great." "Hope MS takes advantage of it cloud computing."

Give credit?
GameCents  +   456d ago
DriveClub, that's adorable. Isn't that that arcade game with real cars so that kids can enjoy it but feel grown up too?

*to which ever mod debubbles me for this, yes it was worth it
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The_Infected  +   455d ago
^^^

I never said Forza didn't look good I said it would be cool with day and night cycle and weather effects. Also wasn't Project Gotham like Driveclub which was also a arcade like game? Everyone liked it though. I think Forza looks better than Driveclub at the moment.
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C4BL3  +   456d ago
I understand what Turn 10 is doing with the AI. However it seems like M$ just pulled the plug on "Cloud Gaming" to make it seem like we are missing out. Like they expect us to cry "NO Please put back the DRM check in so we can have all this cloud stuff." or something.
Loki86  +   456d ago
No the "cloud stuff" is still essential part of the console as they said in their statement.

Also, Conficker that made me laugh, good one.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   456d ago
@C4 cloud is still MS "vision"

http://www.joystiq.com/2013... Mandatory DRM has absolutely nothing to do with the cloud and games utilizing it.
captain_slow82  +   456d ago
so there pretty much doing what the iphone game real racing 3 is doing then lol

http://www.polygon.com/2013...

thats what ms are doing with the cloud really lol
kneon  +   456d ago
That sounds like it's just based of the final lap times rather than any real analysis of the driving characteristics.
captain_slow82  +   456d ago
i have the game on iphone and yes its a very neat trick how it works....

and it could be done on any console rite now...

point is try the game on iphone then play forza 5 then disagree with me because im 100% certain u wont
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No_Limit  +   456d ago
"players can now create Agents"

First we have the One, now Agents, so is the Cloud the Matrix?
AutoCad  +   456d ago
Cant wait to play this at LAUNCH.
Cryptcuzz  +   456d ago
Stopped caring once I read this comment and I quote:

"We’ve moved the Drivatar system in the Cloud so that it can process incredibly heavily…it means basically super computer level of processing and that means you now have an Agent"

Really? Super Computer level of processing?!!
kneon  +   456d ago
Yes, but we're talking Cray 1 levels of "super computing" ;)
iceman06  +   456d ago
C'mon...that's rocket science he was trying to describe!!! Lol Couldn't resist...I tried...but couldn't!
Cryptcuzz  +   456d ago
I know right, I think it is more damaging to them by saying things like that.

It puts the console in a position where the consumer will feel like they are mislead and gives the media ammo to call them out on this.

There is no way they could live up to providing a service with cloud processing on a level of supercomputers.
baodeus  +   456d ago
So I guess people bitching because they love the old predictable and static AI system so that it easier to win that way? I guess people on here don't want to lose that advantage.
Skate-AK  +   456d ago
Haha he said super computing.
oldassgamer  +   456d ago
So, now they want me to spend $500 on a "Gaming" system that plays the games for me. Next they'll tell me how much better the graphics are, because I'm watching a replay of the game I didn't really play.

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