Microsoft's Xbox One seems to be attracting gamers interested in the massive franchises.
Please sir explain how come we're not in the lead with software
Wait, what? COD dogs is #1 in pre-orders for Xbox One, and that means they are winning the software war? If you check the weekly most pre-ordered games, it's Watch Dogs for the PS4 at #10, COD for the Xbox is #20, Battlefield is #22 for Xbox and #24 for PS4, #26 is COD for PS4, Forza is #29. How exactly is MS winning the software war? Nonsense
Probably something to do with Forza being the only decent looking exclusive.
This also doesn't seem to include the fact that every PS4 bundle that is being sold has a game with it. The watchdog bundle is at no4. the Battlefield bundle is at no.6 and the Killzone bundle is at no.9 Forza motorsports is at 17 and COD ghost for x1 is at no.20. So please correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that PS4 is leading in software.
I dont know why people are acting like the currently revealed games are the first and last games that will be coming to the PS4 and Xbone. Like these handful of titles will decide which console will sell most by the end of the 8th generation. There will be numerous games coming in the later years and Sony has yet to reveal games from their AAA studios like Naughty Dog and Santa Monica. If we look at the historical trend, we can safely say that PS4 will have more and higher quality exclusives. Xbone supporters should not claim software victory based on just the first 5 revealed games. Even the launch line-up has not been finalized yet for either consoles.
"Please sir explain how come we're not in the lead with software" lol @ "we're" The two best games MS showed at E3, in my opinion, were a multi plat (MGS5) and a game that will most likely end up on PS4 eventually but is already a multi plat on PC and 360 (Titanfall). Forza's a great game for racing fans, but that's not one of my favorite genres. Bottom line is that who has the "better" games is a subjective topic.
I'm going to call it right here: when it comes to cross-gen multiplats like CoD and Battlefield 4, they'll sell far better on PS3/360. They're not going to make a huge difference in convincing people to go X1/PS4. However, brand-new IPs like Watch_Dogs, Destiny, and Titanfall (even though they are still technically cross-gen multiplats) have a much better chance of getting people to upgrade.
I could say the same about sony, i mean non of those ps4 exclusive interest me in fact im more interested in ps3 exclusive rather than ps4, example Beyond Souls, GT6 and in recent days even TLO, The Order looks meh to me and that includes KZ too and after seen gameplay of DriveClub that game is out of my interest so the only thing thats appealing to me is Infamous, but all this is an opinion like yours.
"Please sir explain how come we're not in the lead with software " Comments like this just show how everyone is literally TOO vested in "console wars" and need to get a bit of air. When you consider yourself as part of a collective whole to your entertainment products, you KNOW something is wrong.
@MysticStrummer yes "we're" :-3 I've seen you plenty of times using we're with Sony. And thanks everyone for making a response in such a kind matter ^_^ now I am waiting for my PS console to unbrick so I can finish TLOU @lodossrage but it's fun to get people riled up when I say something like that. They do that to us on our articles lol
@dedicatedtogamers I disagree, they should sell better on the ps4 because of the lower entry fee to play them. If I simply want to play next gen madden, do I pay $560 or $460? I think Microsoft is forgetting how much the price point helped them with the 360.
"We're"? do you work for Microsoft or something?
Most games I'm looking forward to are all multi plat mgs5,division,watch dogs,bf4,ff15,kh3. But exclusives wise I do like what I've seen on xb one better, lots of people thought ms won e3 til the last 20 minutes of ps4 reveal
@Heavy so sales matter now right? I thought it was about "Variety, uiquness and new Ips?
@xHeavYx Sales?? So wait, when ps3 had more unique exclusives but 360 outsold all its games sales didnt matter. But now when xbox one has more new ips and exclusives sales are most important! The F you fanboys are hilarious!!
I really don't know what to say to you 2, typical fanboys who talk trash with no argument. Let me make it clear for you, This article says that, because MS has a game ranked on the #20 spot, means they are winning the software war. I said "Hey, Watchdogs is #10, that's better than #20, isn't this article wrong?" Let me put it in terms you can understand. Herp derp, derp kinect derp. By the way, Mr BallsEye, how sad is that you mention that MS has more timed exclusives, how long is that going to last? Sony has always come up with new IPs, what do you have, Halo, Gears, Forza and Kinect
@Heavy First off don't ever call me a fanboys kid You got that? I'm not you, I'm not the one posting up stupid picture of Kratos holding Master Chief's head like you do and thinking your cool because all your little Sony friends bubbling you up and agreeing. I know what the article says. But because MS games aren't hitting top ranks doesn't change the fact that they're varied. You know, the same argument Sony fans always come up with. Where are Sony's exclusives like Killzone, and Driver club smart guy? OMG big well known AAA multiplats are once again topping the charts. Seriously... Trying to call somebody a fanboy... Don't rub your a raging psycho Sony fanboy nut on me. Your delusional kid drink water.
Ohhh, you called me kid, you must be a badass who probably just turned 15. First of all, your first response (which was a fanboy response) had nothing to do with what I was talking about. You don't even understand derp language it seems. This article says that MS is winning the software war because COD is ranked #20 on one website, I said that Watch Dogs is ranked #10, both games are multiplats by the way, I don't know why you had to say anything about exclusives (By the way, another Xbox fanboy argument is that Sony may have more IPs, but Xbox ones sell better, but wiat, you are not a fanboy), maybe you think being ranked at #20 is better than being at #10? Or maybe you need to read comments more carefully before defending your precious Xbox
Some Xbox games creeped into the top 20, 5 minutes ago! MUST...WRITE...ARTICLE!!! "Xbox winning software war?!?!"
Answer to the headline: hahaha not even close. Playstation Gamers know the reason why. For existing xbox gamers asking us why? Guess you've been gaming on the wrong box this gen bros.
if I question at me, yes, but for the wrong reasons. not bad reasons, if not a bit bad for my preference. this because microsoft only let you see games with thousands of followers behind the franchise. halo, (that would be your metal zelda or god of war) Crimson Dragon (which would be the sequel to panzer dragoon: the best game of sega saturn). and killer instinct (which would be the equivalent of Nintendo announced "earthbound 2" or sony announced "Crash Bandicoot"). sony took risks supporting indies and new and varied projects (like Knack, The Witness, The Order: 1886, Outlast, Hohokum, Transistor, etc.) Nintendo also competes hard with their games ... Well, at the end of 2013 (super mario 3d world, mario kart 8 TLOZ WW HD, bayonetta 2 SSB, donkey kong tropycal freeze, pikmin, TLOZ: BW, pokemon x & y, sonic lost world, wonderfull 101, yoshi and X. ) I'm not saying it was wrong what they did, "microsoft", but if I'm a little disappointed, after how great it was the xbox 360 arcade. PS: sorry if my English is not so good :3
nickname: "HALOisKING" good, glad to see your equity. PS: you could argue if you disagree about something?. thank you very much.
y do i get disagree just cuz i have halo as my name i love halo is that a bad thing? btw my bro has a ps3 so i know a lot about ps games
My uncle works at Microsoft, so I know a lot about the things behind the scene! Who cares if you know a lot about PS games because your bro has one? There's no proof the Xbone is winning the software war. What, just because Call of Duty is the Xbone's most pre-ordered game? Amazon US has a Watch Dogs+PS4 bundle for $460, at #4. I don't see COD or a Xbone+COD bundle anywhere in the top 10. Amazon UK has Watch Dogs for PS4 at #11, while Xbone has BF4 at #20. So, you're telling me because Xbone has COD (which even the PS4 has), they win the software war despite not being on the top 20 best seller's list? PS these numbers aren't fact. Just pre-order numbers. Sales on release will change, and most likely won't match pre-order numbers.
When m$ gets some studios maybe But third party timed exclusives don't count
Gear? Ok because epic owns gears Gears1 is on pc
I hope I'm not the only one who noticed that - when it came to exclusives - Microsoft mostly showed off GCI trailers and gave vague "TBA 2014" release dates. Let's not move the goalpost yet again, kids. Sony software is also ranking higher in the preorder charts compared to Xbox One games. And there's still the looming question of whether this is "it" for Microsoft's support. Most of their games are TBA 2014. Not a lot of support for the first several months. And will Microsoft be able to churn out several high-quality games a year 3 years from now, especially when their ultimate focus is the TvTvSports crowd (not the gamers)? Edit @ Loki Sony showed live gameplay of pretty much all their announced games (and we still have Gamescom). Several of Microsoft's biggest games like Halo, Sunset Overdrive, and Quantum Break were either CGI or at best, they weren't in-game demonstrations. That's fine if you are interested in several X1 games. But let's not pretend that Microsoft was transparent at E3. Most of those were trailers, not live gameplay demonstrations, and the fact that a lot of those games were running on PCs with Nvidia graphics cards should be a big red flag.
They showed five stage demos and alot of gameplay trailers, what did Sony show on stage? I really hope Sony has their guns loaded for Gamescom because I am still leaning towards the PS4, but their is alot of X1 games that I am interested in currently.
You are absolutely wrong. Quantum break was not CG. It was all in game. They also showed gameplay of titanfall and Ryse, spark, and some arcade/indie games
And games like dead rising and ryse they have confirmed were running on xbox ones
I agree, they are winning no software war. I will say, they have bought some good looking exclusives, but we all know most will be timed and the stuff coming from their in house teams just doesn't look compelling.
There is no war...
no. and as the years go on sonys exclusives will just keep coming we have seen this in the last to console generations
Yes, SO FAR. Things can change in 2014.
Honestly all the games I'm really interested in so far are all multiplat MGS, Destiny, Witcher, The Division But I'm also a huge indie games fan and an aspiring dev so I'm going for PS4. The way I see things, so many franchises are going multiplat now that PS4 and XOne are basically the same console except for these things : PS4 : Indie support, developper-friendly architecture, more likely to get japanese games XOne : Kinect
exactly what i was gonna say.
Remember, Microsoft is investing $1 billion for the Xbox One games. That means, they will SECURE more exclusive games than the PlayStation 4. If only Sony will buy exclusives... But they don't believe in that aspect. Thats why we saw them lost a lot... Final Fantasy XV, Kingdom Hearts III, Metal Gear Solid V, Resident Evil games and more. Sony LOST a lot of exclusive franchises following PS2 which is sad, since that made them lead the market. It all now comes down as to what MS will buy off this coming next-gen.
and if Sony still doesn't believe in buying exclusives, they might end up like Nintendo, relying on their first party games. Afterall, we buy consoles because of games. If one platform has more exclusives than the other, consumer tends to favor the console with exclusives. But then, there will be fanboys that will stick to one console regardless if they're getting weak first party exclusives and more indie games than core games
Yeah, because Sony doesn't have any exclusives /s
@xHeavyYx I know right, it's ridiculous how fast people forget things. They have more 1st party development studios than any other publisher. Sony has released exclusive games for their platforms almost* every year since 1994 (*I'm saying almost because I haven't checked, but I would put money on them having at least 1 1st party game every single year in the last 19 years). They have 3 generations of amazing consoles and exclusive games to prove that they are committed to the hardcore gamer. There is no doubt in my mind that we will have exclusive stuff to play every single year in the PS4s life cycle. God of War 2, one of my favourite games for the PS2, came out after the PS3, in 2007. Look at 2013 alone, off the top of my head: God of War: Ascension, The Last of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, Gran Turismo 6, Ni No Kuni. And I'm pretty sure I forgot a few. Anyone who has doubts about Sony delivering the games for the PS4, is either very young or just plain stupid. Sony delivered for 3 console generations, and they made it clear at E3 they aren't stopping any time soon. Oh and while I'm at it, they also have a trackrecord of announcing new games at GamesCom and TGS, so before anyone passes judgement on the current launch lineup, there will most likely be more stuff announced there. While I am very confident in saying Microsoft blew all they had on E3, history is on my side.
It will take crazy amount of money to make a game like mgs5 or ff15 exclusive, what a few hundred million?
xiren, I think you're a little on the delusional side. It's consistent with XBOne supporters, though, so I guess I'm not surprised.
It's not only about M$ investing, it's also about sales. Doing an HD game is expensive, and you need to get all the audience you can. That's why third parties are not so reluctant to make multiplat games. A FF game may even lose money if it were to appear as an exclusive, for example. That's why Japan for example moved to multiplat even when people there don't buy M$. Their market is too small for HD games.
Not really. MS can do timed-exclusive games again like what they did in Xbox 360. did that work? certainly. Why would someone wait one year later to play a game when they can get it first? There might be some people that believes timed-exclusive doesn't work but it does. this next-generation consoles DOES NOT HAVE a big jump in terms of HD visuals. It's just smoother frame rate and improved lighting shadows. Jumping from PS2 to PS3 is a big change but PS3 to PS4 is like 10-20% improvement which is minimal. Does that increase their development cost? nope not really. Money talks. If Microsoft gives one company millions of dollars to keep on the Xbox One, they will do it. It's money.
MS buys exclusives and Sony makes exclusives. Sony doesn't need to spend a billion dollars for exclusives. The have 20 exclusives for the PS4 alone and I believe more than half are new IP. Plus they have the best developer in Naughty Dog.
business wise...your comment doesn't make a whole lot of sense... MS 'investing $1 billion for Xbox One games'...fair enough, but they have to...they're internal 1st party studio structure is less than half that of Sony's...so they're 'securing' exclusive 'content', but so is sony...and Sony is also 'making' 1st party stuff on a scale triple the size of MS... By far the biggest 'exclusive' MS has secured is Titanfall...published by EA no less...lets wait and see what happens there... While dead rising 3 is said to currently be exclusive, this seems to be more of a capcom business deal than MS really doing anything...as capcom on the other end is rumored to be making Deep Down exclusive for Ps4, and something exclusive to the Wii U as well... I'm just saying...MS loves to make it public how much they're investing in weird, 2nd party content (game development being published by them, but developed by studios they do not own)...this has been a short term situation since they started doing it a decade ago...Sony doesn't have to publicly thump their chest about 'investing' anything in game development, because its just resources being allocated within departments they have complete control over...and remember, the stuff Sony is making...since the 90's...isn't for sale...a very far cry from MS's position in this industry...how many xbox one exclusives are going to be sold day and date on PC?...most of them... and this is all before you factor in any of Sony's indie-initiative...something MS just blatantly ignored...
how about fanboys just stop being a fanboy and support the industry? Who cares if one platform gets this game and the other does not? If you are a gamer, you will get both. Sure Sony has a lot of first party studios. But how many IPs did Sony studios scrapped out because it flopped and can't meet the sales goal? I know a lot but i rather not get into that because fanboys will put their defense shield and defend, even know they don't know what they're talking about. @AceofStaves Is it our fault that you cannot buy two consoles at a same time? Not really. It's your choice and preference. YOU CAN certainly buy two consoles. Buy one at launch (Ps4), and buy the XBox one later.
@Xiren187 Not everyone has the money to get both consoles, so they have to choose the one which best suits their preferences. Am I less of a gamer because I can only choose one of the consoles, even though I've been playing, and collecting, video games since Pong was first released? Of course not. Gamers buy the consoles they want and enjoy them. This elitist argument that you can't consider yourself a gamer unless you do X, Y, or Z is complete and utter crap.
@Xiren Dude, you wont get into it becuz, how many IP's can you name that were unsuccessful? It would fit on one hand.
ace said it perfectly... buy every console to 'support the industry'? seriously, what?...why stop there, then? why not buy every single game, peripheral, etc...since 'gamers' are only here to support the industry, is that what you are recommending? You're making it pretty obvious, xiren, that you are not yet to a point in your life where you've become aware of compromise...Many of us are adults, many of us have responsibilities...should someone that thoroughly enjoys gaming NOT feed their wife and children...and just buy every console available? hopefully you can see how off your comment is...there are plenty of 'gamers' that would rather compromise with one device and a few games...and take their wife/fiance/gf out for dinner a few times instead of buying another console...and spending even less time with her... you lamely put a title on something that is ridiculous...this is a freaking hobby...a person that enjoys games from time to time is just as much a 'gamer' as someone that does nothing but...
Explain why insomniac & Dead Rising 3 Developer & Respawn & Crytek & Crimson Dragoon Developer choose Xbox ? Simple Answer = Money Xiren ! OK it's about money as i said . . but maybe it's timed exclusive . . why microsoft don't spend this money to build first party studios ? you mentioned the exclusives that goes multi such as resident evil and MGS and so on and you didn't mentioned that bioshock & ninja gaiden & mass effect that was exclusives for micro and it goes multi ! don't forget GTA DLC Gay & Tony . . micro give rockstar 50 million for the exclusive DLC then what happened ! OMG Release for play station ! sony have many first party studios more than micro and that's advantage for many people to choose PS4 over Xbox . . but for me i will buy the Xbox later after price dropped if that happen . . because i want to play Quantem break and ryse
Exactly. It will be interesting to see if Microsoft is able to market Insomniac games well. After seeing Resistance flopped in sales in PlayStation 3, i will be surprised if Microsoft goes all out with Insomniac next title. What I'm saying is, MS is DOING EVERYTHING to win this next-gen. They are investing money. To win something, you have to put money down. You can't expect to win a war if all you do is wait for a developer to be loyal to you. This generation, money speaks. If you don't give them money, they will not be loyal to you.
No sorry, MS has more first party studios now. They've opened plenty and they are great. And honestly who gives a F how they get their games? Most important is that there are games and we play it! How about you just enjoy games??
Its funny because that's what fanboys are simply going with."hopefully it goes multiplat." Like I said I thought Sony's PS4 line up was super epic and must buys. Guess not because in every X1 articles I see lots of fanboys. More so in Titanfall news every time Respawn mentions the X1's cloud computing. That really gets fanboys storming in those articles. If the PS4 line up is so great fanboys wouldn't even be paying attention to what the X1 coming out with. And too busy comparing exclusives. But that's not the case. "I want Titanfall! Aww it's only on Xbone? I hope it gets released on PS4. That's all I see. So with that being said MS finally has a better line up of exclusives. Don't spin, there's no "if's" "ands" or "buts" end of discussion. gamescon is coming up Sony will announce new games for launch. And I'm expecting MS to do the same.
No, it's likely that they will SECURE more exclusive timed DLC. Last gen's biggest "exclusive" purchase was the $50 million Microsoft spent to get the GTA4 DLC first...and that came to PS3 a year later. Microsoft will have a solid lineup of exclusives for the first 2 1/2 to 3 years...after that, they're going full-steam-ahead for the TvTvSports crowd.
Sony doesn't have to BUY exclusives. They own more first party studios than any of the big 3.
@xiren187 Mate, i think you really underestimated Sony. I don't worried if Sony lost some exclusive like KH 3, MGS V, or FF XV. Sony already proved it with PS3, that even they lost some exclusive from PS2 such as DMC, Tekken, Ace Combat, Tekken, GTA, or FF, sony can replace it with high quality exclusive like Uncharted, The Last of Us, Motorstorm, Heavy Rain, inFamous, Demon's Souls, Killzone, LBP, Yakuza 3-4, Valkyria Chronicles, etc. Hell, even 3rd parties still made a lot of exclusives for PS3 on this year like Ni no Kuni, Tales of Xillia, Tales of Symphony HD, Disgaea D2, Dragon's Crown, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure All Star, One Piece Musou 2, Saint Seiya: Brave Soldier, BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma, KH HD, FF X HD, Drakengard 3, and more! If you think those 1 billion dollar from MS are enough and will make Sony a loser on software war, you should think again.
All of the money in the world won't stop a publisher from putting their game on another system with a bigger install base. Not trying to predict the future, but simply saying that you can't leave that out of the equation.
Nope Sony still has TGS and other ones which i forget.
Well, so does Microsoft. It's still really early.
Lol as long as they don't have naughty dog, Santa Monica and other Sony first party studios that's a big no. Sony had to unveil a console at e3 hence why the lack of game showings. You'd think the last of us would be a reminder to everyone that Sony means bussiness when it comes to games.
They hardly showed off the PS4, We got a glimpse, it looked good, they got back on track. It was probably the Vita that killed a lot of their time in the conference.
Agreed. Sony had to cover all 3 of it's consoles in about 2 hours. It did a good job of giving a glimpse into what is coming for each one. I have no doubt that more games are gonna be revealed before the launch with 2 more major conferences before launch day.
Microsoft has definitely shown more in the exclusive, full production budget type games. Sony didn't show as many, but they do have some future titles in the pipeline and increased indy support. It's a win-win for people who want different experiences on each console.