Microsoft: Xbox One “Day-One” patch has “always been the plan” regardless of DRM change
Never believe anything until it is denied.
Am i the only who sees how Microsoft could just flip back its policy on Xbox one a Year or two down the road. They could randomly just say we are updating Xbox One.. it now requires an internet check every 24 hours. Then everyone who bought one at launch is screwed. lol
Oh, and this day one Patch still Severely limits those without any internet connectivity, who just want a gaming console offline. They are still screwed?
If the 360's install base is anything to go by then they'd have to tell a third of their install base which had to go to extended lengths to find an internet link and activate their consoles that they now had to do that on a regular, 24-hour, basis. That the update to make them do so would be on the next disk the bought. If a class action lawsuit didn't follow, those people would be throwing their consoles out of windows.
still going to buy PS4 day 1 already preorered ... but will buy xbox one untill the next Halo comes..
Microsoft is lying , you can still implement family plan via a PATCH . There's no assurance they won't just build up a big costumer base before they reintroduce the anti-consumer policies..Microsoft LOST consumers confidence , as a 360 owner am opting for PS4 .
They can't include the patch on a game disc? They haven't even manufactured any yet. why can't this just be part of the firmware shipped with the system?
Major Nelson "We can't just flip a switch and turn off drm, the console was built around it" Angry Joe Interview http://www.youtube.com/watc...
should we start referring to XB1 as "X360 version 3" since MS and Major Nelson consider the PS4 a "360 version 2"?
"We can't just flip a switch and turn off drm, the console was built around it" ...... unless the pre orders are so low we just have to change our approach" completed Lmao......taking their own customers and potential ones for complete muppets.
@CBaoth: When did the Xbox 360 ever have a Blu-Ray drive? Really does take some nerve to say that when they also said that things line HDMI and internal Wi-fi weren't needed, and they then added them to the system later. Followed after what the PS3 did day-one.
"We can't just flip a switch and turn off drm, the console was built around it" And therein lies JUST ONE of the issues facing the Xbox. You do not take a system designed to function in one manner and then without hardware revisions completely alter its planned method of operation.
Godmars290, Didn't original PS3 specs say 2 HDMI and games were going to be 120fps? Also didn't Sony say that rumble in controllers were last gen, but then paid the license and added it the controller afterwards? I should know I had a launch PS3 and had to buy another set of controllers.
Wow, that Major Nelson guy is a major douchebag. You knew he was pissed when he took the interviewer's microphone lol xD
The vast majority of games ran natively at 720p. The ones that ran 1080p were upscaled and not "True HD". HDMI was needed to jump from native 1080i to native 1080p. Development costs and time keep games from being true 1080p games. Blu-ray's only impact on games this last gen was the couple games that used multiple DVD's. If you thought those couple games justified the higher price tag and marketshare loss, I have a SegaCD I can sell you.
Sorry death. Most of sonys exclusives were over dvd <9. You may not appreciate the benefits but many multiplat devs had no choice but to develop with the lowest denominator in mind. Worst of all, the 360's media actually had less space than the gen before it. Why would any multiplatform dev want to lose out on all those potential 360 buyers. Dvd<9 held back some games for sure...not all but definitely some.
@testerg35: "Didn't original PS3 specs say 2 HDMI and games were going to be 120fps?" You mean the leaked specs before the official announcement? What about them? Its the same as not recognizing that Sony was actively in a lawsuit over rumble, lost forcing them to put PR spin over not being about to include, then putting it in after settling. To equate it with what's going on now Sony would have had no intention of including rumble from the beginning, put the PS3 out with it losing sales because of it, and then bringing it back as if giving into some "future" vision because of complaints.
Godmars290, so Sony instead released a rumble-less controller knowing that they will be releasing a new one and that users would need to upgrade. So I had to buy a new pair. Sony didn't offer any exchanges from what I remember. Where as MS hasn't released anything yet which never affected users since it never existed.
@testerg35: I'm saying that Sony didn't know if they could ever have rumble on any system they made ever again. As for MS, not putting in or waiting for HD-DVD effected their customer's plenty. From people who bought the add-on, to others who's consoles bricked because of updates. Then there are the Arcade SKUs which didn't have HDD, that had to be bought separately. Even XBL because its something extra that people have to pay more for just to get basic features out of the console they bought. With most of its games multiplayer.
This is the [email protected] I am talking about M$ is full of it, there integrity stinks (you cant fukn trust anything they say) Instead of just admitting it was a bad move they try to pull a PR spin. I am so glad I game on ps4, Sony even apologized and admitted that they had to do mandatory charge PS+(only multiplayer online portion) to keep there business model sustainable. Now that M$ was forced to remove that DRM shit it all of a sudden was the plan( give me a break). I would not be suprised if a few years down the line they bring that [email protected] right back. Simply because if it was truly gone you would not need a mandatory update on DAY1. Gamers dont fukn trust them M$ is a company that does not give a dame about your feelings, and they have a plan that simply got delayed.There monopolistic ways have been well documented in the pc arena, the simple fact is that arena is dying and now they are looking to control any arena that is open enough for them to slip into.
Umm.. I thought all they said was that there was going to be a day 1 patch regardless of DRM stance. WiiU had a day one patch and it had nothing to do with DRM. I am guessing that if Sony had or does have a day 1 fw update you'll say Sony is always upgrading their OS because they care about the customers.
@testerg35=The difference is it is mandatory you can not play until you can connect to the internet simple as that....Which makes me feel like it not really gone just delayed!!!!
That's just stupid! If they said "hey we have 2 options for you to get games, and if you don't like the one you can use the other." Seems a little hokey to me. If they said that there was 2 ways to get games, and only revealed one at day one, then why is it that they didn't talk about it sooner instead of trampling the whole damn thing to death? And taking away the idea of "family share?" it sounds to me like they wanted to move to all digital, pushed the idea out there, saw the outcry, and then said "alright, my bad, just kidding. Here is the real XBox One."
Yea yea im sure it was...
Lol good joke.
Didn't the WiiU have a day one patch? Why the big deal and why are there multiple articles submitted dealing with the same thing?
The difference is that this is for DRM. WiiU was to patch a few bugs.
Again, why the big deal and why the multiple posts for this same story. They have a day one patch...who cares.
Kindly refer to comment 1.2 Thanks.
WiiU patch wasn't required to play games on the console. (Anyone could buy it and play it without ever going online or downloading the patch) Xbone's patch is required to play the console as you need an online connection to turn off the online connection. (Not everyone has internet so for millions of people this console will be no more than a door stop)
So then people without internet shouldn't get the XboxWon. Again, what is the problem?
"Again, what is the problem?" People without internet cannot buy it. Which is roughly 30-40 million of 360's current install base.
Something tells me that won't be a problem.
Yeah right... Fools... https://pbs.twimg.com/media...
Hopefully it wont brick the console of it is interrupted during download, those poor Wii U's :(
I agree with above posters, what happens if they decide to flip the switch again and re-start DRM and 24hr checks? and 20m people buy it hook line and sinker? Getting a ps4, and i don't think I could recommend a xbone to anyone I liked as of right now... M$ sounds too much like a greasy used car salesman right now...
PS4 has that DRM switch too? If publishers want it?
sony can only control what SONY does, and they said they're not changing anything... As for publishers, online passes are different from "if i dont check in in the next 4 hours my game becomes a frisbee..." besides, if publishers (ea perhaps?) decide to do something sleazy, they'll do it on both systems, and we're all screwed anyway lol!
Okay, I guess there really isn't anything stopping them from turning it back on again. But, really, even though there is the possibility that that could happen, do you guys REALLY think that they would do that? I mean, really? Right now, we are talking about something that they were going to do with a yet to be released console, and they got all kinds of backlash and negative PR for it. Why the heck would they turn it back on after everything they just went through? Something like that would completely KILL the Xbox business.
I could see if the DRM situation was a legally enforced issue, but it's not! So in all honesty Microsoft can reactivate it at any time.
enacting it in the first place pretty much blew customer confidence out the window, and would have sunk the xbone outright... All im saying is, we see what they would do if they could get away with it, them "taking it back" (imo) dosn't help... sony decided they could make a profit WITHOUT doing things they knew we'd hate... M$ said "F#@% it, lets go!" those are the kind of companies i cant give money to...
They wouldnt pull no sh!t like that
Why are we so worry about a one time patch? I can care less what these patches are for as long as it patches and I'll be on my way to play the games. There is no conspiracy theory, get a grip people.
Me: Never buying a Xbox One even he Microsoft decided to change the DRM Policy.
Of course it was, lol.
I call bullsh*t
I dont believe it......
Why are they planning a patch already? The console is months away from being out?
Devlopment of Software and manufacturing of the console do not keep pace with each other. One is always ahead or behind. The patch would put the software (which is more likely more devloped) into sync with the hardware which is until it launches, subject to change. Nothing in the Xbox one or even the PS4 is finalized until it is sent for manufacturing. And neither has been. Manufacturing photos always leak out, then you will know when they are final. I bet you the ps4 has a day one patch also.
there are still issues with this system like why in the hell if it cost 499 shouldn't it include a mic? and what about the webcam it still needs to be plugged in to function
so people without internet can't download this update? what are they gonna do
Wait for the next batch of Xbox ones that will already have the DRM restrictions omitted which is what the day one patch clearly does. The day one patch is obviously for the Day One 2013 limited edition consoles for a reason. It is also in the best interest of the seller of the console to notify their customers of the day one patch requirements. They will be the first to hear the complaints if someone does not have Internet access.
That's silly. They're nowhere near manufacturing retail consoles yet.
I 100% agree with you and never said they were. And now you look up a few comments to my other comment stating as much. (Note the time of comment)
BUY A PS4, just saying.......
Do any of you lil ps4 nut huggers realize that they can change your gaystation at any given time? All you hating on Xbox for no reason who cares it required an internet connection once every 24 hours, all u nut huggers our on the Internet 24/7 just to hear that the ps4 is going to have an exclusive only to the ps4 5 years from now. Whopty f'n do the Xbox was only trying to cut out the middle man from making a profit in the gaming industry. The last of my worries is when I go by a physical disc if I'm going to be able to let my friend borrow it. They are big boys and girls and take care of themselves if they wanna play it they can either play the demo or go buy it full price from a retailer. Not used from GameStop who gives you 5 dollars for it and sells it for 4 times as much as they bought it from you. That's what hurts these big company's who makes these games, they are losing profit from the middle man, and all you ps4 nut huggers want the best exclusives and best of this and that well I'm here to tell you that it maybe on Sony side today but tomorrow it could be a different story. All I'm saying is exhale the air around from Sony sack and think about it.
Xbox one's now extinct DRM policies would have ruined the piracy industry. Now it is wide open for further exploitation. True it affected the used game market which was clearly MS's concern with the DRM reversal, but developers will continue to fight to get their games to people who want to buy, vs those who want to pirate them. The next gen many years away may see an increase of game cost to compensate. Luckily we avoided a game cost hike this coming generation.
Wow your the biggest piece of ignorant trash I've come across on this site. You have no idea what your talking about. Your a bitter little man, barely a man, and insult people with no facts. I'm sorry Microsoft is flip flopping, I'm sorry people like Sony. Stop being hate full, gets some meds and relax.
am sure somewhere in that wall of text you made some valid points, but trying defend X box while calling others "nut huggers" make me doubt your mature enough too handle expressing a valid opinion, so ill dismiss you completely.
I'm 29 so I'm sure I'm mature enough! I'm so sick and tired of hearing every little detail if what Xbox is doing wrong, and what Sony is doing right. To me that is "nut huggers" ! I'm glad you exhaled and left your opinion!
Pretty sure somebody else at the opposite end of the spectrum feels the same as you. So in essence, ur a nut hugger to someone also... Im 32 and I think im mature enough.
Your 29 ha, that's a joke. You act like your a 5yr old pitching a fit. Nobody likes my console. Whaaaaaa
maturity at its best!!!
I sure hope this system comes with a big red warning label: "Internet connection required for activation". Seems that consumers should be made clearly aware of this before purchase.
Maybe they should " update and install " a new management and PR team since these guys almost bricked their consumer base.
Now that would be pure genius!!!!!
Yeah I'm going to buy a ps4 when it does the same exact thing as the ps3..
Trying to do it from my phone