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Submitted by Lavalamp 457d ago | opinion piece

Microsoft and Sony will eventually revert their game ownership policies, what matters is how

Polygon: "Microsoft's flip-flop on its controversial game licensing policy, which would have restricted game ownership on the Xbox One, is a well-deserved, albeit ephemeral, win for consumer rights.

That will change, both for the worse and for the better. Microsoft's shift in direction is the best proof of how, when it comes to DRM, even one of Earth's largest companies will find a way to be agile." (Microsoft, PS4, Sony, Xbox One)

GDDR6_2014  +   457d ago
They don't need to do anything, eventually all games will be released digital only
xHeavYx  +   457d ago
The Xbox is the only console built for DRM and other evilness
CRAIG667  +   457d ago
How do you know that? I am almost certain Sony are just as prepared for DRM as any other company moving into to the future...
HammadTheBeast  +   457d ago
Because although they patented it before MS, they said they had no plans for it at all. Meanwhile, MS has only backed off because of negative press and bad pre-orders, if that changes, they might "accidentally" flip the switch.
aquamala  +   457d ago
@CRAIG667

like OP said, no additional DRM are needed, just make games digital only, digital games are already locked to your account and you can't sell or trade it in.
BattleAxe  +   457d ago
"They don't need to do anything, eventually all games will be released digital only"

This will only happen if the console manufacturers and game publishers see the demand for digital downloads. The fact that MS has backed down from their DRM policies shows that people understand what is happening in the world today, and it shows that with anti-consumer policies, even the mightiest of companies will destroy themselves if they go against what consumers want.
rainslacker  +   457d ago
I agree. Let the transition happen naturally. They can speed it along by finding ways to make it more attractive. In order to make it more attractive it has to remove most of the negatives of DD.

In the end, retail will still exist for quite some time. The two markets can coexist, and there's no real reason to restrict one to promote the other.

I really don't understand all these articles which see retail as a bad thing. It's a natural and instinctive way for people to buy games. The vilifying of retail is going way too far.
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bonafide732  +   457d ago
Me either
its gonna happen naturally but dont try to force one upon the other
retail isnt going anywhere for awhile
it just isnt
Corpser  +   457d ago
So true now that next gen consoles will have minimum 500GB and the tech that lets you start playing while downloading the game
HammadTheBeast  +   457d ago
Polygon's so stupid.

Also, just pointing out, the Xbox One still has the capabilities to pull off DRM/Used games restrictions, only a day one software patch is allowing those. Any day now, I see them reverting.

Or maybe not.

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ANIALATOR136  +   457d ago
I can see Sony coming out with all it's PS4 Exclusives built from EU studios like SCE London, Media Molecule, Evolution to name a few
HammadTheBeast  +   457d ago
Evolution's already shown Driveclub. Still, Naughty Dog's other team has to show something.
extermin8or  +   457d ago
@HammandTheBeast Naughty Dog will be at vga's if they are anywhere and I'm betting on uncharted 4 although a new IP would also be great, maybe if the last of us team could make uncharted 4-then make their next game new IP, or the last of us sequel (I hope) after that to give us a good 4 years between each game in each franchise...
Godmars290  +   457d ago
But at this point MS can only reinstitute DRM before launch. Afterwards and especially a few months or years later there's going to be too many systems offline for them to simply say "you must do things this way".
ANIALATOR136  +   457d ago
yes I know they've already shown Driveclub but it's their chance to appear again and show off a newer build seeing as it's a European convention. One of the spokespeople for it said it's constantly improving and sometimes can't believe the differences he is seeing in each build. Would be great if Naughty Dog are also there though. People are anxious to see what they're up to.
extermin8or  +   457d ago
oooh day before my birthday :) what I neat present that could be :p
Transporter47  +   457d ago
Sony revert something they never intended i see what you did there.
Ezz2013  +   457d ago
it's Polygon
what did you expect ?!
Sarobi  +   457d ago
Give a year or two down the road and you'll have your answer to just how it'll be back.
Godmars290  +   457d ago
How is it that Sony gets repeatedly lumped in with MS's mistakes?

Sure we're never going to know if they would have gone through with their DRM plans if MS hadn't been both obvious and incompetent in how they handled theirs, but still.

When Sony makes a mistake or seems to, its only Sony's mistake. But when MS makes one Sony gets mentioned by default.

I mean to this day BR was seen as pointless when first introduced, and yet MS compensated for the lack of a HD disc format at least three times. Two of which required major rewrites of the 360's system OS and how they handled games entirely.
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WalterWJR  +   457d ago
They don't,, this site is funded by Microsoft.
They are paid to talk crap basically.
Tyre  +   457d ago
@WalterWJR Well Said! The spindoctors and selffulfilling prophecy attempters are at it again trying to confuse and brainwash gamers in favor of the greedy. Yes that includes the über-projector & King of the DRM & Micro-Transactions MS Drone Clifford Blezinski (which already ruined his own Gears of War & most games). All pathetic attemps to justify their own greedy policies. Instead making a heartfelt & honest excuse to the gamer community...they act like we are guilty of something? The well known fingerpointing instead of acknowledging their own wrong. So dissapointing. It's quite simple, we refuse to buy in to this...they all should be thinking about a fair balance between customer & company. They just provide an entertainmentservice not a lifesaving heart surgery operation service. Why in the hell are they so arrogant & demanding of customers? We all should see through their sleezy slick talk & con attempts.
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FamilyGuy  +   457d ago
I agree, I'm getting tired of reading articles like this. Every negative thing about MS is instantly put on Sony in a "They'll probably do it too" sort of spin.

These companies and most of their policies are completely different.
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Why o why  +   457d ago
The 360 drm pushers were soooo hoping sony would follow suit to justify their 'them to' claims. Now they're moved to saying its going to happen....pathetic..... 7 years of 'its going to happen' ....I'm already bored after 7 days. Obviously its the future but ms aren't the deciders on when
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Tyre  +   457d ago
@Familyguy They brought this on to themselves....what is wrong with you? Low attention-span/Low stamina? You ain't married to Microsoft are you? Is your life depending on their succes? Also the gaming industry isn't dependant on Microsoft's succes. Microsoft wanted to hijack the industry/our hobbies/licences if they succeeded with their closed system everybody in the industry would be in their control. Xbone was exposed as a big scheme and rightly so. But Microsoft kept talking vague or flat out denying. We gamers kept seeing through their lies and rightly so. The thing is Sony was just more straightforward and never spindoctered at all. They had the gamers in mind and a fair deal for the customer....hell even the policies & the price($399) were internally decided (with the gamers in mind) before MS even announced their Xbone & policies/price.
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FamilyGuy  +   457d ago
Tyre, what are going on about?
We're on the same page, was my comment difficult to understand? I'm definitely not on MSs side lol, look at my account/history.

What I said was games journalist are full of sh** because they constantly try to push MSs crappy tactics and faults onto Sony.

For example: Sony from the start explained that they wouldn't force any drm, that it would basically just be (something like) online passes again. When Mircosofts DRM and restrictions came out everyone completely forgot what Sony had already stated and crappy games journalist started Claiming Sony would follow suit.

This article is continuing that trend, even after Sony has shown and proven that they are vastly different from MS and are taking a much more consumer friendly approach. I'm tired of reading articles like this and I wish I could down vote the site again. They're pathetic.
No_Limit  +   457d ago
Sony = No Way, they care for gamers and would never do that.

MS = Of course they will, it is just a matter of time.
ceedubya9  +   457d ago
Ha. Yep, that basically how it has been sounding recently hasn't it? Say what they want, but both of these companies are about MONEY. Sony was just doing a lot better recently at showing why people should give their money them over the competition. Neither is any more good/evil than the other.
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luoshuigui  +   457d ago
Eventually, yeah, in 10 to 15 years when fiber internet installed in every house i'll be gladly to go full digital, now? Lol no way
extermin8or  +   457d ago
Dunno about that exactly I mean only one was sharing with the NSA and only one was the first company on the PRISM scheme... And somehow I doubt the Japanese government are using SONY to spy... lol can't quite see it myself.
MonChiChi  +   457d ago
Lol looked at site and wont even give em credit, screw polygon.
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MasterCornholio  +   457d ago
As far as i know the only one who designed their console around an online DRM system is Microsoft not Sony. If you really have to worry about anyone that would be Microsoft because they were the only ones pushing their DRM system onto consumers.

Definition of Revert: to come or go back (as to a former condition, period, or subject)

This doesnt apply to Sony only Microsoft.
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gamepard  +   457d ago
Sony didnt need to change anything do not team her with MS ...MS made a console to spy ,and earn money from us ...she took her slaps in the face and changed everything ...Sony and MS may be huge corporations but the dont have any relation in their philosophies ..one is JAPAN the other is AMerica
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ziggurcat  +   457d ago
they're both already well aware of the backlash imposing restrictions generates, so i doubt either of them will change their policies.
azshorty2003  +   457d ago
Exactly. Microsoft learned their lesson. There's no way after receiving that kind of backlash once, would they even think about trying to risk and even more massive one by turning around again. At least not this generation.
mydyingparadiselost  +   457d ago
"An always-online console, or at least a disc-free console, stymies piracy, sure, but more importantly, it rewards complete control of the marketplace to the console maker. Sony and Microsoft can cut out the stores, the distributors, the delivery trucks, the stocking warehouses and every other middleman that takes its part of a games profit. The heads of these companies have seen the billion-dollar success of Apple's closed marketplace on iOS, and they will find a way to emulate it."
Job creators at their finest.
The closed market Apple has created over the last decade or is trying to emulated not just by these companies but others as well and bodes well only for those companies and not the customers that buy the products or the jobs those products create and will help see many people, retailers and small business owners to unemployment lines. Sure the companies themselves will employ people to create content but the distribution model serves a purpose in our society by giving those without technical college degrees work and creating income for people to buy their products in the first place.
Then there's the lack of flexibility with digital products that doesn't exist with most physical goods. These digital goods are convenient to purchase from home but that's where the convenience ends. Once it's on my hard drive or in my account the value of the product immediately becomes nothing since it can't be resold, and God forbid I want to GIVE it to someone. This is not a gaming problem, this is an economic problem that, like most things with the market nowdays, only serves to push the profits of companies higher and higher simply by restricting the products they're producing.
Tyre  +   457d ago
@mydyingparadiselost Well Said Bubble for you!
PositiveEmotions  +   457d ago
How many of you are gonna get the ps4 regardless of what ms does?
2pacalypsenow  +   457d ago
me
2pacalypsenow  +   457d ago
how can sony revert if it never had it in the 1st place
D-riders  +   457d ago
agreed
PositiveEmotions  +   457d ago
Idk but imo ps4 has better social features im my eyes anyways.

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