GameInformer: "Microsoft doesn't have to abandon its digital future; here's how it can get there."
Digital is the future, but I sure hope it's not Microsoft's vision of it, I am hoping more of a steam like digital, or maybe a PS Plus vision of it, but Microsoft's Xbox Live discounts are god awfull if there are any.
"I am hoping more of a steam like digital," It was like steam. Where have you been for the last few months?... It was gonna be just like steam with disc until it goes all digital.
steam allows you play your DL'd and installed games weather your online or not. Steam also doesn't set off a time bomb in your games that kills them if you don't log in within a certain time frame. So NO they were nothing alike other than the digital distribution part, please get your facts straight.
is no different than that of any other company with the same idea of digital distribution. they just jumped the gun and took the fall but the idea is still there. It took some time before digital music and movies caught on in many major metropolitan locations. That doesnt mean the physical distribution channels are dead...people still buy cd's and dvd's. That convenience of digital access is too great to simply ignore and each year more and more people get internet access so the idea of the full digital distribution age gets closer and closer. There will be some resistance which is understandable. this past gen we got a taste on consoles of what the PC market has been experiencing for many years prior. the convenience of being able to download a piece of software to the pd direct instead of having to go to a store and wait in lines. there will always be a preference for physical copies, especially to the collectors market, but in the end convenience generally has a way of surpassing traditionalism. MS's vision is not that out of line from the likes of Apple, google, sony, samsung or any other company that envisions the day of people turning to their service as a way of getting what they want without the hassles of dealing with people who may/not be competent to properly sell the merchandise.
No, it definetly was NOT just like Steam: http://www.incgamers.com/20...
Where did you read they were going to make 10% to 50% discounts on Xbox Live?
"Reinstate family sharing for digital purchases. If Microsoft were to offer users a choice between owning a physical disc and being able to share games with friends family, I expect we'd see people gleefully fill up their hard drives with games that couldn't be sold or traded.The difference is in the communication. Change is scary, and the knee jerk reaction is often one of revulsion. Microsoft attempted to force sweeping alterations to how consumers view ownership in the console space without fully considering perception.The company can still achieve its goals of a digital future. Now, it can get there with gamers saying, "thank you" instead of "screw you."
"Microsoft's Vision Of A Digital Future Is Delayed, But Still Alive" Someone kill it quick before it lays eggs.
no one is against digital .. all we want it is the choice between phy/dig and as soon as isp around the world lvl up to the demanding bandwidth we'll get there
it was all there actually. the biggest difference between steam and what ms was doing was the disc. nobody is up in arms over steam because they dont have disc which means no selling or trading and because of no physical copy and the drm can be much looser, nobody bats an eye at the fact that you cant sell your used steam copy. now with the physical copy you can just go around installing on a bunch of x1s making 10 copies out of 1 which is why the 24hr check in was needed. yes it could be 48 or even 72 but many games can be beat in that amount of time, hell even 24 is more than long enough. but its a double edge sword, if you keep the disc, those with bandwith limits can get that and install from there keeping them from hitting there caps so problem solved, the check in is only a couple kb so that wouldnt impact it. also with the disc you keep the retail chains in the loop. however by keeping the disc, then all the consumers now feel entitled to buy/sell that disc at their discretion and if you take that away, commence the raging as the consumer feels betrayed so that same solution becomes a problem when people fail to look at the picture as a whole. what they were doing really wasnt as bad as everyone thought if you actually took the time to think about it... pros: -all digital, access entire game library from anywhere without carrying around your games -discless after install -use disc to install games if you have data caps -sell disc with restrictions but the option to sell is still there unlike steam ( at least for now ) -share with family ( although apparently this was actually only a timed full game demo, still better than nothing and would easily give people an idea if they wanted to buy it ) -disc keep retail stores in the loop for buying/trading cons: -drm, 24hr or 1hr check ins / always online -selling isnt as easy -buying used would still be there, not clear how it works though. to me, the pros were better. unfortunately the masses only seen "drm" and stopped there. they never though about the pros, never though about how they were actually effected by the restrictions on a personal level, they just seen that, then spun it way out of control
@Captain Qwark 9, No it was full titles, You and anyone of the 10 family members could play at any one time. news.xbox.com/2013/06/license I feel its a great loss and gaming is not moving forward.
I'm telling you guys once they have a decent user base that always online and strict DRM policy will be back in place but instead Microsoft will use the "Developer" as the scapegoat as implementing these policies. Something like what they had planned and especially as firm as they once stood as their belief just does not go away! Buyer Beware!!!
M$ has no vision to begin with It will always be a me too company http://www.forbes.com/sites... A sideshow phony It has no genuine love or passion for an industry it did not help build. All it wants is to take and take until it sucks up the gaming industry, destroy it and move on to other emerging markets bullying its way with its shit loads of cash. M$ is the Unicron of gaming. How can they let people who talk trash about video games Steven Spielberg and George Lucas make a movie about their own video game and insult gaming??? Bitter Crazy Irony! Mark Cerny is a man of Vision Over Visibility. That is why he created the PS4. He knows where, when, how and why video games started and he knows how it grew, stumbled and crashed, and got up again. He was there with it through thick and thin. He knows and cares how it will grow, mature, into a progressive, fruitful, strong, durable, productive, competitive but positive, entertainment industry.
Digital is already here on PC and has been for a long while. MS's dream is not of a digital future but a future where your machine spies on you, reports back with daily reports, and you have no control or ownership of your purchases. There is a big difference between a "digital future" and a corporate stranglehold on the consumer.
digital is the future for sure...xb1 should give incentive for digital gaming by adding benefits to ease people into having a game that cant be traded or resold.. price should definitely be among those incentives!!!
Another incentive should be that digital Downloads should release like 5 days before disc retail games
The plan probably always should have been to roll these features out over time. Can't move too quickly or people get spooked.
No sh!t? Anyone who is anyone knows that this is what they are doing. Say what the customers want to hear now. They stay hooked and when the times comes slowly roll out what we envision the future to be. Text book. I learned this in my political science class back in college.
I'm fine with a digital future, just as long as we have the option of owning discs with no restrictions like today. Physical discs ftw!
Reinstate family sharing for digital purchases and allow us when we first register our console to go ALL Digital even with the Game Discs. If Microsoft were to offer users a choice between owning a physical disc and being able to share games with friends family, I expect we'd see people gleefully fill up their hard drives with games that couldn't be sold or traded. I honestly believe that they would have fine with the DRM and always online. Sure sales wouldn't be as much as the cheaper and old way that Sony has embraced. But, there something to say for ushering in a new era of gaming and people would have eventually saw the benefit and jumped in a couple years from now. There will be a day when gamers will say things like "wow, you actually had put that in the console just to play a game"...LOL... Some of us were already ready for that...and now we are all back doing it like cavemen. Sad day for me and I know for other hardcore gamers who saw the future right at our finger tips! Thank you loud mouth cavemen! You just held back another generation of gaming!
^^^^This, unfortunately I was part of the initial push against drm, now I feel differently.
you're lame.nothing has to change. family gaming sharing or hour demos what i like to call it don't have to be taken away.and nobody's telling you to go buy the physical copy of the game jackazz. download it and shut the f up.what you really feeling is mad because sony has more pull in the gaming industry then MS.
No, then explain how they could implement the GAME SHARING AMONG 10 USERS ON SEPERATE CONSOLES ON SEPERATE PROFILES FOR FULL RETAIL GAMES WITHOUT A 24hr CHECK or 48hr, WEEKLY or whatever recurring online authentification? Sonys system was not like this it was more limited to sharing your personal profile and even then sony had to severely cut it because of abuse= no drm. So please do explain how to do this without an online verification method....You can't so instead you throw around insults and name call= proof you have no explanation. Its OK when micro rolls this out again, pretty soon I think and lets users opt in and we see 90% of X1 users jump on the bandwagon its going to be all good then.
Simple...!! Keep the vision, but have the gamers input with your plans. Keep gamers happy and the money will come to you.
Gamers should come first but i don't see ms reversal as a victory,i liked the idea of shared gaming
Greatb plan bad execution
Of course not, check thier terms of service, rest assured they will take another crack at DRM when they have a decent sized installbase.
I don't know why they didn't do this in the first place! Show me how digital distribution is better for me the consumer than physical media and I will gladly purchase my games digitally. As it stands now I don't think they have a clue. What are they thinking when they price day-and-date and games-on-demand the same as and sometimes more than physical media. Where is the incentive? I hope Microsoft truly sees a digital only future and doubles down this coming generation trying to convince us consumers why we should too. LB Note: This apply's to Sony as well.
people act like we just going to start downloading games when X180 is release.digital been around for a long time.but why not do both? some people are just so dumb that keep running into the wall even though they know it's there.i wish MS would have not puss-out and stuck to their guns.so when they would have failed i could really hear you MF's cry.i'm sorry for calling people dumb but if you think MS was going to let one person buy the game then give it away FREE to nine other people? you're dreaming.
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