Microsoft have reversed the DRM and 24 hour check in policy for the Xbox One, but is it enough to win gamers back and will it make a comeback?
A lot of people will feel better about purchasing one now that DRM has been excluded. But its still 100$ more and inferior. Im sticking with the ps4.
Not just that. More importantly, it's still a matter of they tried to do it to begin with. I will not applaud MS for doing what they should have done in the first place. MS is holding the Family Share plan hostage because of this. They can still do it.
Agreed. They're EULA can change whenever they want though... so they could revert it back to full online only DRM. Dick move but we are talking about Microsoft.
Once a cheater, always a cheater. Anyone remember that saying? Let me apply that here. Once an Xbox 180, always an Xbox180. Doesn't matter what happens now because the Microsoft gaming division has been mislead. Meaning that a mistake such as this, to take this much spin to actually win peoples trust back, only leaves consumers worried about the future. No one will ever forget this. Xbox one-eighty.
Agree. It appeals a little more, but if they remove kinect and get the price to be similar to the ps4. Ill get both, otherwise Im sticking to the PS4 only
$499 is too much for what you're getting on the Xbox One. For $504.88 I was able to pre-order PS4 Killzone bundle and a year of PS+ on Amazon. Better deal and value if ask me.
With the 100$ price comes with Kinect, which is still always on, it's quite unconfortable. There's the less powerfull 50% than PS4, being different than 2006 when both systems share the most simple architecture there is, meaning no excuses for devs unless tipped off by M$ to power down for PS4. M$ being quite volatile in mentalities and policies, the only thing they care about, are sales, and changing this now and not after the annoncement, not after the raging revolt of their loyal fans, not after E3 proves my point... I will stick with PS4 and advise most friends to do so, since I am aware of specifications most aren't, as the GDDR5 and the RAM available for games, but everyone is free to buy Xbox One, PS4 needs competition to keep pushing the boundaries like they are doing. Xbox one simply earned the right to be called Xbox One and not Xbone, they deserve as much.
A simple No. Microsoft still had the audacity of testing and believing this was the future. and just recently Don Mattrick was all open at the infamous: "fortunately we have an off-line option for the xbox one, it's called xbox360" quote. 100 more expensive and inferior, this will be obvious for exclusives in 2-3 years from now, and maybe even multiplats. and last but top priority, it's still a inherent kinect cable box that happens to play games. Note: The controller does look appealing to me and some games too, but MS' philosophy will not win over me.
Alls I hear is this inferior word. How so? All the developers here on n4g. From any real developer I've read about, said their neck nd neck.
Yes, there was a spike last night in pre orders it has already begun.
Source?? And saying "I heard a guy at GameStop say..." isn't a source
Check Amazon top sellers in video games, it's higher than PS4. BUT, the PS4 has 4 systems in the top 10 while Xbox One only has one, but it's #1 in the top 10.
Damn dude is this crap really that important to you? Im not one of these guys that check pre orders every five minutes to see whose winning like some people do on this forum. This was last night after the no drm announcement. www.amazon.com/best-sellers-v ideo-games/zgbs/videogames
It is true, on both the US and UK Amazon site, you can see the rise up in ranks after the announcement yesterday. the DRm was the factor that was holding the xbox1 sales back. Amazon UK Top 20 Best seller as of 6/20/13 7:50 PST http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bes... 2. Xbox 1 Day One Edition 3. PS4 9. Watchdog (PS4) 11. Call of Duy Ghost (xb1) 13. Forza 5 13 14. Battlefield 4 (xb1) 16. Xbox One Standard Edition US Amazon is pretty much the same situation with the Xbox One still sits at #1 and 3 games in the top 20 while no PS4 games were in the top 20. http://www.amazon.com/best-...
Didn't mean to come off defensive. I'm just tired of people bringing up new info that isn't widespread yet without sources. That's how annoying rumors get spread. Good for MS being able to pull in more preorders, it's just not my cup if tea.
"I heard a guy saying the Xbox One cloud is a PR ilusion" See I can do it to, comment only supported information or state it as your opinion. Chereo
MS lost me this gen, it was bad enough that they dropped Xbox for Xbox 360 but then they dropped Xbox 360 core gamers for kinect.
^this!!!!!!!!!!! Microsoft drops Gamers like a bad habit whenever it suits them. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Not going to support this product. Besides they don't have any decent studios producing games like Sony does year in year out. Sony has a proven track record for games all the way back to the PS1.
They definitely won me back. I was only getting a ps4 because it was by default. But dince they updated the system without the drm and 24hr restictions. Now I can pick it up at launch. I like t he games I saw at E3 and I will be buying FF15 and KH3 as well as ryse, DR3, forza 5, Titanfall , KI, below, ect. I've already pre-order my system. Cant wait.
Man, you got all the Xbox1 games that are on my must buy list as well. I also have Quantum Break and Project Spark on my list of games that I am interest in. Good taste in games from all genre.
You're fine with Ryse that QTE kinect game? Well, i guess if you're that type of gamer. No DR3?
1st off- ryse isnt a kinect base game. It played with a controller. 2nd- why is GTE a problem now since members on this site claimed how much the loved heavy rain and GoW and soon to be released beyond
I never liked GoW. IMO, it's a mindless Square x6 + Triangle game. Heavy Rain is not just QTE. Yes, it is a Kinect based game. Check the interview. The buttons are just there for the demo. The actual game is Kinect only. I mean, you cant use your Xbone without Kinect, so why wouldnt they implement it? Watch the interview in Gametrailers.
It will win back a few on the fence but having it $100 more with weaker hardware means a lot of people will migrate to PS4. Not to mention Sony kills the competition with PS+
Some, I know a couple friends that cancelled their PS4 preorders to make a Xbox One preorder because they are invested in the exclusive games and friends are all on xbox live. But I do know that they plan on getting a PS4 eventually. I'm the opposite, I have both systems preordered now but I may cancel my Xbox One preorder and get one 6 months - one year into the next console cycle as I would have too much to play and buying two systems is impractical with limited time to play games.
They may win back some but it's already too late for many. This whole DRM fiasco has pretty much puts a deep dent on Xbox brand and ruined the what is a very good console, it will take them years to rebuild what they have lost.
I have my PS4 still preordered. Still enticing to get one but whos to know now that they have dropped some of the features the XB1 adopters will pay for it in the end. I wonder if that will mean LIVE cost will increase or more AD space cramming the dashboard. Because we all know there will be a catch for the drop.
I will wait it out to see how it goes, and if all is good i will buy one.
they have a lot of trust to rebuild just like Sony did when they were hacked. Except it will be harder on MS because this was a decision they made themselves and backed off on. who knows maybe this is just a way to take the heat off them until launch and then they reinstate the DRM
Well im much more inclined to get one now..but ps4 first
It'll win back any consumer that is cool with a company that's lied during the past several E3's, shown false gameplay onstage (actors pretending to play a prerecorded Kinnect video), flip/ flops on features and openly disrespects gamers in interviews and on twitter. Major Nelson said that the DRM feature was built into the system and couldn't just be turned off like flipping a switch. Sounds like they found that magical switch, and now MS fanboys are praising them based on a blatant lie. Enjoy supporting a company that only sees you as a sales figure.
wait josephayal, I though you were in tears of joy earlier when the DRM was dropped. What happened now?
Dude. Your so brave. What games you getting at launch for ps4?
one argument i often see for people preferring the xbox one over ps4 is that more exclusives were shown at e3 for it. honestly the exclusives look good, but I just think sony is not ready to show everyone all their exclusives, and just like this gen and previous ones sony will have more exclusives, and frankly in my opinion superior ones, you just got to be patient. now i am not saying sony does not have great exclusives for the ps4 already. anyway ps4 preordered, it is looking more up for the xbox one but i probably won't get it until a couple of price drops.
There are two more trade shows coming up and SONY has already said they have a ton more to show. Oh we WILL see more. Microsoft doesn't show up for those shows if I remember right. So I think we've seen what were going to see from Microsoft and that's it. SONY is still throwing new games out for people to get excited for. Xbox fans can have the moment to get excited but like last gen you will see who has more exclusives and better ones at that.
They did win the gamer's back, last night on twitter I saw alot of people saying they were going to pre-order. http://www.amazon.com/best-... (number 1 at the moment) Am I the only ones who is going to wait until they are both released to see if any of the consoles are actually good or not?
I don't think so. There are questions lingering in the air like one of those nasty farts that wont go away. What is the DRM now? Why reverse your policies? The impression is that Microsoft is a money hungry corporation that "did the numbers" and realized things were not looking well for their new system. So they scramble with a knee-jerk reaction and decide to do what their competitors are doing. Seems their vision of the future was pre-mature. Meanwhile if you are nothing but a glorified Cable box that happens to play games, you do the same things that PS4 does, then why are you 100 dollars more expensive? and even if they drop the price, again its like we'll take Sony and Nintendo's lead on this. In hindsight, MORE TV, SPORTS, NETFLIX, SKYPE, KINECT HEART MONITORS, WEIRD SHARING of TITLES, GOLD MEMBERSHIPS that OFFER NOTHING (I'm sorry you get Halo 3) and so forth...MS was looking like fools. All this came home to take a bite out of corporate Xbox's ass. Monet talks people and Microsoft was looking at millions lost come holiday season. I personally, have 75 friends on my list, ALL of them sent M2AF notes stating they would let their MS gold membership expire and that they would see each other in PS4. Thats just my friends, multiply that times how many millions deserted. You get the picture.
I agree, the fact that they reversed some, but not all, of their policies shows that they're flip flopping at the drop of a hat. They still want to keep certain restrictions, and only reversed the policies that they felt was causing the most controversy (probably based off of Bing search figures or focus groups). I would not be surprised if sales of PS4 vs Xbox One were 3:1 this holiday season. They technically do the same things. Just one is less restrictive and $100 less. These comments from two IGN readers say it all. "I feel like this was a step in the right direction, but the fact that they were intending to f*ck their customers is pretty bad." "Who's to say they won't just reactivate their stupid DRM after a year or so once they have sold a few consoles, you genuinely couldn't trust them..."
There's still the issue of not being able to resell your games. What's funny is that these Microsoft spokespeople always state that the DRM restrictions make Xbox One an easier and more enjoyable experience. Honestly, who's telling them to say this crap? After watching the Jimmy Fallon PS4 presentation, it's obvious that Microsoft's Xbox One is the laughing stock of America right now. Especially when Fallon asked Mark Cerny "So unlike the other console, this one can play used games?" And no one in the audience disputed him.
Well if they can drop Kinect as a mandatory peripheral, or stock an SKU without it, lowering the price AND get rid of the problems that plagued the Xbox 360 (No self-publishing indie games, better 3rd party support, and Xbox Live actually rewarding the gamer for paying for it.)
Well if they can drop Kinect as a mandatory peripheral, or stock an SKU without it, lowering the price AND get rid of the problems that plagued the Xbox 360 (No self-publishing indie games, better 3rd party support, and Xbox Live actually rewarding the gamer for paying for it.) then they would win me back.
Well if they can drop Kinect as a mandatory peripheral, or stock an SKU without it, lowering the price, get rid of the problems that plagued the Xbox 360 (No self-publishing indie games, better 3rd party support, and Xbox Live actually rewarding the gamer for paying for it.) AND add an AV port then they would win me back.
Tbh i was looking forward for the new xb1 but after all the shit that was announce about the kinect being needed to use the xb1 and them saying that their not gonna change their policies and look what happened they did a 180 and ms is telling me that their listening to their fans yeah no they had to do the 180 and the results have not change for the ps4 bc the ps4 is still winning as of now.
Absolutely not. Been disappointed with my 360 for the lack of exclusives (Kinect is NOT gaming) and M$'s arrogance with the Xbox One since it's debut. I supported MS since the first Xbox and I've had enough of their BS. Glad I'm finally selling my 360 this weekend! Onto PS4, they're at least not trying to milk the customer for every $ you have. Fellow Xbox 360 gamers, I hope you all make the right decision and buy a PS4.
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