Well, look what has happened folks. Microsoft has changed some of it’s ‘original plans’ for the Xbox One. Do you all really think Microsoft didn't bet on this scenario?
How do you fool someone when they state you will have to connect once to activate the offline modes?
Doesn't matter, still don't want a surveillance box, that any agency can use to spy on me, sitting in my living room. Doesn't sound appealing just for Halo and Forza.
LOL... you know if it's not connected it's not spying on you... right?
How about any of the 14 other exclusives? How would Sonys e3 have been without their lower price point? The used games stance is invalid now.
can't spy if not connected to the net. And don't assume anyone wants to watch you anyway.
It's not a difficult workaround. Just keep the system unplugged when it ain't in use. Facial recognition kinda harms the Duck Tape fix...
@A-laughing-horse: And Sony announced 20 upcoming exclusives. And they do have the lower price point. They also potentially have more power. As well as better opportunities for the indie market.
I understand that but, how often do you disconnect your consoles from wifi. That would be a pain in the neck. I'd rather just have consoles that can't spy on me just because I want to play multi or watch a movie. Now let me use it without Kinect all together and we're talking.
@Liberatedanimal put tape over the kinect eye, problems solved. If you're worried about someone listening to you, Then you obviously you have some bigger issues to deal with. Its not you have the Fame status of Charlie Sheen, Gary Busey, or Ron Jeremy...
Surveillance box ? Like everything else in your home? Phone TV laptop desktop ps3
The Kinect is basically NSA approved...
From the article "I’m not buying a product where everyone in the company is saying something different and making up BS. Pick the company that listens to gamers to most unless you really want to gamble on the Xbox One. The only reason to get one is pretty much for it to be your main Set Top Box but also play a few more exclusive games every now and then. We all know that most of the games on it will also be on PC. Just don’t forget what Microsoft has been doing ever since the Xbox360 came out and here now with the Xbox One announcements." I agree...
No one wants a Surveillance set up, in their home.. Just saw this petition, when I opened firefox, this is the link - https://optin.stopwatching....
Okay at the start of this Microsoft fooled people by using terms. Like LEND/family/friends. Now they are being successful by using the term: "offline game". Did you catch that, if you install a "off line game" then you will not have restrictions, that is the condition. Watch defines a "offline game" What if only one game has the label of offline game on it? Mostly candidate would be a turned based rpg. Heck what percent of games don't have a component of online to even the 360 games right now? Microsoft almost required it with few exceptions. If there is a term "offline game" as a condition. Then that is a out, for for Microsoft to change nothing! Don't trust a company that keeeeeeeeeps making pot shots at your rights. And keeps adding names like "offline xbox one games", otherwise Fooled you twice! Are you going to let that happen? Microsoft qoute:An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games....If they where not trying to fool you it would read:An internet connection will not be required to play (any) Xbox One games. see the difference? I don't care if it drops to 199 It is still taking away my used games rights!!! plus as I pointed out the DRM issue is conniving explained to fool us
What makes you think if they wanted to spy on you they couldn't already do it with your Laptop, Tablet, Smart Phone and anything that has a camera and an internet connection. You better live in a cave I guess!
lay off the ganger do its sent you paranoid...ever heard of an off button?
To all those saying just don't connect to the net, whats not to say its wont store data on the HDD? A certain amount of the HDD could be reserved just for that, then when you do connect to a network it uploads.
These guys are right it can't spy on you if not connected to the net. But it also can't use the cloud it was built around to make up for its lack of power. Games like forza, titan fall, dead rising 3, and even sunset overdrive where and I quote "only possible with the power of the cloud" And the fooling you part is maybe the Xbox1 could never do any of those things they said it could and they new it, so bundle in a bunch of features you really want, with Carp policies nobody would want then take it all away
"The used games stance is invalid now." Mandatory Kinect one is not. Pay to play online and barely get anything more one is not. TV focus one is not. 500 dollar price one is not. You still don't seem to get why some people still insist on not getting it.
I just want to say that Sony wouldn't be doing this too?
Fooled as in this could have been there plan all along and it was a "gotcha" thing. i.e. M$ PR department: "Lets say it has this, get media attention, then remove IT and get applause from our fan base" Not that hard to think about or am I really the only one who thinks like this?
I already made my choice to go with the PS4 next gen. With that said, this article is pure desperation and obviously fanboy driven.
MS HATERS are puttin in work today. Damn Ps this is getting tired. Whatever. The only people still mad about Microsoft's positions still are people who never planned on getting it in the first place. It's a toy guys. When your sitting home alone are you goin to be saying to yourself " man, thank God I didn't buy an Xbox". If you do , than you need serious mental help
A $500 toy. For that price people are allowed to be passionate.
People who never planned on getting it (IE me) aren't mad. We're too busy laughing our asses off to be mad!
Agreed A-house-laughing, I get on N4G for balanced news but this sight has a infestation with kids who think people care about what they have to say. I'm ready for school to start back up so the adults can have grown up conversations.
"When your sitting home alone are you goin to be saying to yourself " man, thank God I didn't buy an Xbox"." I say that every time I boot up The Last of Us.
Daaammnn lol. Last of Us is one hell of a game. I've lost track of what's going on in the gaming world this whole week because I've been hooked on the multiplayer!!
Oh hey we changed the policy so you don't have to be online every day. This means you deployed folk can play anywhere! But you still need internet out there in Afghanistan and in the middle of the Pacific Ocean or you can't play.
SMh....you know this is a one time activation and not for every game, right? Soldier activate Xbox One when he buy the console at home and that is it. He can be in outer space for a month and he is safe. How old are these people here? LMFAO
Soldier buys console on base. Logic.
It will only be the launch models because they are already in production and can't be changed. After that I have no doubt the console will ship with the newer firmware and you won't need to connect at all.
And no it is for the Xbox1 to work at all. No where in any statement made by ms has anybody said for some games you wouldn't have to connect to the net even once. You have to connect to the net before you can use the Xbox1 and download the day one update stated ms. And if you are someone that can not get internet you are still boned.
Wow. They even come out and say exactly what you have to do, but they fooled you? It's written in plain english. EDIT: I left my original response because I'm not ashamed to admit when I'm wrong. I didn't read the article before I posted. Sorry Author. My post had nothing to do with what you wrote.
"Xbox One is like that GF that cheated on you and wants to come back to you. lol. You'll be dumb enough to get back with xbox one."
don't think so,,. fool me once, shame on you.. fool me twice,,.. shame on me.
AND IM GETTING BOTH DAY 1 haha
The fooling will come when MS decide to change the terms & conditions of using the XBOXone which potentially could go back to the original plan. All MS are doing at the moment are reducing Sony's clear competitive advantage.
Doesn't matter, what is this Xbox One? I've pre-ordered a Ps4...
Fools! Are you really going to shut off your connection to the net every day? U will eventually get lazy & just leave it always on like they want you to..
Wait, you still need to connect once? I thought the update by Don Mattrick said that games can now be played offline. But the discs have to remain in the tray this time around. Didn't know that you need to connect at least once...
Need to be connected once to download the update. Then it doesn't need a connection after that.
The update? System update? Game update? Or the update which will remove DRM?
What do you think? The update that's mentioned in the article. Do keep up old boy.
I just thought that since there's a lot of time before release, they would be able to release it with the firmware in question already pre-installed.
Vip3r, stop feeding the trolls. These Sony fanboys are playing dumb....hmmm, second thought , maybe not.
Ms has said that a day one update was always planed for Xbox1, even before the policy change. " It is the difference in hardware development schedule and software development schedule"
@No_Limit I am a Sony fan, but not a fanboy. In fact, with all these DRM policies biting the dust, I might just pick the One up late next year or something. The games looked good, so why not.
Yes. For some reason it's much too late for them to simply release it with the updated firmware. Though I don't see how you couldn't just hire an armed squad of snails to carry your software designers cross country to complete the project in time.
System update? even though they didn't even start production yet,.. and they could also include a disk. or, is it to establish your Kinect/,?
Now there's an idea they're never gonna go with: just include a disc with the freakin patch. That'd cost like fifty cents. It wouldn't even have to be a Blu Ray. But I guess that would make too much sense.
I don't really see this surveillance thing as a giant issue. There are many ways of preventing someone from spying on you. Why are we worth being spied on. We aren't worth it. You are being watched everywhere you go and you may not even realize it. Everyone who is complaining about this issue may be a hippocrate. Don't you guys remember the Verizon wireless issue. I don't see anyone going, "Oh the gov. is collecting our phone records I'm dropping them." All of my friends have Verizon and they all said that they don't care.
your information/data packets,.. could be very lucrative to marketing. down to your emotions, hunger, thirst.. This type of potential information gathering, has never been done before. Rocket Science predictive Marketing.
Yeah, I have a hard time imagine what interest the government would have in watching me in my living room, and what potentially harmful things they do could do with the knowledge.
Everyone is complaining about NSA and the kinect. I hope everyone realizes that there are drones right now watching you on this very site and watching you daily. That servers are collecting all of your search history(erased or not)and sending it some where else. Phone records are being collected, cameras are watching you while you drive. It is just like the show person of interest. You are being watched, whether you like it or not. Also why are 30 year old obese men living with their mothers and 6 year old children are worth being spied on.
Zomg surveillance boxzz *yawn*
Every one of you will be online from the moment you 1st turn it on until the day you sell it. Xbox or PS4. 90% of those bitching about 24hr checks will be playing COD & Madden online all day.
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