Alright, so as you know, because the news is literally being reported in a lot of places, the Xbox One online requirement, DRM, and used games ban is dead as a doornail. But here's the question. Was this a New Coke situation?
THE GAMERS HAVE SPOKEN!! NOW REMOVE ALWAYS CONNECTED KINECT!
It must be connected, but it CAN BE TURNED OFF! Most of their games are controller based with "enhanced" optional gameplay mechanics like voice commands are sometimes movement based. If you don't want it on... simply turn if off!!!
I want it unplugged. At the snap of fed fingers, Microsoft would gladly let the government use it. That's the way MS has operated under the NSA for the last 7 years. I don't need to be spied on for as little as googling the wrong thing.
"Enhanced" lawl. Makes me think of the past years MS E3 conferences "BETTER WITH KINECT" what a crock of shit!
You should see what the NSA is doing right now. They tell any company to jump, and they'll say, "How high?" because there's nothing they can do. The courts will just order them to.
The NSA could care less about Kinect... They're busy tapping into our cell phones.
ya, my intuition is telling me microsoft will reintroduce this policy later on in the life cycle. I will bet you anything they will, and they will make it mandatory. quote me. As an OG xbox fan, i cant trust microsoft. They will do one thing, and then stab you in the back later. The thing that pisses me off the most about microsoft is their arrogance. They introduce a policy that is clearly a bad policy, but then they delude themselves into thinking theyre doing the right thing. ala kinect, always online, drm, limited games. as an xbox360 owner only for this gen, i must say (with pride). 4>1 greatness awaits!! P.s. ive converted my brother who is a die hard xbox fan into a ps4 fan. and my good friend.
Wasted $100 for a rarely-played or turned-off Kinect. LOL
Love this suggestion "turn it off" Right, pay $100 for something just to not use it. No thanks. Also agree on just plain not wanting one in my room at all, may as well put an NSA surveillance camera in my room while I'm at it. Half way to an orwellian telescreen. Call me a tinfoil, I'll call you a sheep, yadayada, agree to disagree. Luckily its still a choice now, won't be a sunny day when it isn't.
In this economy putting the money they did into a peripheral and selling it on the side is a fools route. They sell one with every box and the market is the same as the existing one. It softens the blow, while they can take a hit on the price of the Kinect. You have to understand from a business stand point why everyone has one. Not to mention now that the thing doesn't need internet it might be able to have the Kinect completely unplugged, it's just that some things obviously will require it. Games, apps, certain features, ect. People are looking at this through a little hole instead of the big picture.
@ silent negotiator I'm with you. Ever since I heard nsa a couple weeks ago my spidey sense went up and I ain't getting any Xbox product no matter what. I'm even selling my 360. Ever since this IRS scandle my eyes are wide open. They woke the sleeping giant. I didn't say nothin about fast and furious or benghazi,but now I hear they wire tap the associated press(their own liberal news) and using the IRS to target political opponents. Yeah I think its safe to say our government doesn't trust us either. So no more Microsoft products in my house. Take that planned parenthood ie Microsoft!
Its sure is hard to make biased Fanboys Happy I noticed.
Its freedom for some and its government surveillance for others. Coincidentally the Japanese company doesn't want to spy on us but the American one does. Grow up ant.
Yikes this article screams fanboy
Alot of "assumptions" in this blog. But no one will question it.
if there is patch to take it away isn't there a patch to put it back on your X1 O.O
I wouldn't put it past them, but if they do resort to such deceitful tactics they'd better expect the Xbox One to be their swan song within the console gaming business.
That's what I was thinking... I think this is a cheap ploy to get the hardcore back just so they can force it on us. Remember Microsoft said there not scared to drag the consumer fighting and screaming into the future. This will be back and they will ENFORCE it on us. Remember they also said they need to EDUCATE US. This might be a lesson in disguise for the consumer. If there is a patch to remove there is a patch to put it into place. STILL NOT BUYING THE XBO 1.
You were never going to get one anyways... LOL So when do you think they would put the DRM back? When it sold 10mil, 25mil, 50mil, 75mil?
I can say that personally, I still won't buy one. Don't trust MS enough to do so.
now I plan to get both. I was all Ps4 until now. But I will not pay over $400 of my money on a console.
Then how will you get an Xbone?
I'm far more likely to get one now, but after someone else brought it up, it IS a bit of a concern. That said, it would require a second connection to the internet in order to enable the DRM... unless it was coded into the original patch and was programmed to activate at a certain period of time... But that's getting too much into it. No, I don't like Microsoft, but I don't think they'd do that. They're gonna keep to this.
It's crazy how certain fans are still unhappy about the news. Now instead of people complaining about dmr, their talking shit about how weak the X1 is compared. To ps4. Or Kinect still being attached. Majority of these people wasnt going to buy the X1 anyway. Why can't all gamers be happy about this victory? Do you people really think Sony would not have did this next gen? Your kidding yourself if you believe that. Sony now chargers for online play, bet yall didn't see that one coming either...let's all be happy today!!!
I rather enjoy being a rational fanboy who makes things harder for others though.
I don't know where you've been for the past year! Gamers have been vocal on all fronts concerning the Xbox1! The restrictions, used games sales, and yes Kinect, since it was initially reported to be always on just for the Xbox1 to operate. Edit; Actually alot of playstation fans did see Sony charging for online multiplayer access! Anyone with half a brain could have seen it happening, considering the money Xbox Live has generated, but PS+ still will be a great value because it doesn't restrict people from having access to other media and options. I'm glad Microsoft is rethinking their stance on certain issues, but this doesn't make everything peaches & cream by a long shot!!!! The fact that Microsoft was even willing to implement these restrictions in the first place leaves a bad taste in my mouth! It also doesn't make me confident that they won't find some way of implementing things at a later time. To those who ultimately buy the Xbox1, my suggestion to you is please read the TOS thoroughly and research.
Well I guess majority of the ps fans on n4g has half a brain because most of them talked shit about ms charging for online MP as if Sony wasn't Gunna do it. What exactly do u want ms to do? Get on their knees and beg forgiveness? They fixed majority of the complaints so why keep speculating about what is and isn't true? You are beating a dead horse at this point. I'm happy they fixed the dmr so now I really have no reason to complain. Let it go my dude...
the problem is we know microsofts game. they will be back with full force, trying to reintroduce this policy. id rather caution others about the errors of microsoft
Yeh it'll return and when it does Im sure it'll be standard for more than just this industry. We are headed towards an always online/always digital future but MS tried to implement this all to quick. Im just a little disappointing the family sharing had to go. Could it not be possible to implement this for games which were bought digitally only?
I'd be shocked if that didn't happen to be honest.
Not too quick, just in the wrong way. You cannot implement this at the EXPENSE of the consumer. It's not an easy problem to solve. But their solution was terrible. Most of us are already attached to physical copies. They need to make "not having a physical copy" be the ONLY drawback. Then, maybe we'd be more open to it. I know it's not that simple. Piracy is the main concern, when going all digital. But, as I said, their solution just did not work.
He's saying the Xbox one wasn't innovative? It was innovative in every way. That's what a new console is supposed to do, change the game. But wait, may e the PS4 is innovative. Because now we have cross game chat and paid online service. I kinda think my 360 did that....
You just made an argument up them responded to it. Are you fkin serious?
There's this cool little thing I do. Every day, I search through N4G to find the stupidest comment and post it on my Facebook. Today, Sadist3 won that honor. :)
A worthy candidate. But man, I've been reading some pretty boneheaded comments, and this is N4G, thats gotta be like finding hay in a stack of hay.
The update can come on the game disc. It does not have to be from the internet right? They can have dev add code sequence to the game on start up?
If they put it back after launch they better have a super team of lawyers ready.
They do not care about the gamers or customers that is more obvious than ever....they did this switch trick with the implemented internet explorer in Windows in the EU dozens of times. They just pay a fine and put it back in (with a diferent approach). Don't count on the legal side of things, They can payoff everybody if they want. They are scared about not getting the install base right off the bat. Losing the core gamers as early adopters. PS4 still 10x more powerful/no mandatory Kinect/all 3rd party games(including some XB1 'exclusives' Respawn said Titanfall can come to PS4 today)/more than 40 real exclusives/indie-friendly/the best 1st Party developers in the world(Naughty Dog/SantaMonicaStudios etc)/$100 cheaper/Better controller/Sony more focused on consumers. Not buying this sudden 180 degree turn without MS getting rid of the unnecessary mandatory 'always on' Kinect(which was more important to get rid of in 1st place, lawyers better focus on the mandatory surveillance Kinect). There were to many F-ups by MS with XB1 for starters not just solely the DRM.
They'll try it again one day. Just because it failed now doesn't mean it will in a year or two from now. Look at SOPA, they're still trying to get it passed, only more discreetly now.
I'm glad, for now anyways. I just hope they don't implement these lost features later as an excuse to jack up the cost of XBL. Oh and this is my first post woo!
They use Don Mattrick as a spokesman, yet they are clever enough to do all of this on purpose .... HAHAAHAHAHAHAH
Speculation. At least MS is listening though. I'm still not down with Kinect being always on so I still wont buy one. But if they make it so Kinect doesn't have to be on then I'm all in.
Try it again. We dare you.
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