IGN - If Sony had said exactly what Microsoft did at E3, would fans still be behind them? We discuss.
No,Sony would have been under the same shit storm.
It wouldn't have been as bad, as we'd have less choice and neither of them would have to give up on DRM. But yeah, I'd be pissed as would a lot of people. It's still $100 cheaper, of course, which'll win them a lot of love.
The $100 cheaper price point would've still caused a big uproar. But, postulating aside, the reality is that Sony clearly won E3, which is even more evident considering Microsoft just backtracked on their DRM and 24-hour check-in policies.
That is where you are confused...Microsoft E3 was not about DRM and 24-check in. Try just looking at the conference for what was presented, not what you think about their previous releases and notes. Microsoft said E3 was going to be about games, and it did exactly that. If you check the threads, a lot of Sony fans were bored with Sony's conference until the price and used games were brought up. I did not really perk up until they mentioned Final Fantasy.
Definitely not, like I had said before MS brought the games and the PS conference was so boring till the last 20 minutes.
I think the price would still have been a big deal, and the question of who had the better exclusives is always going to be subjective. For me, the two best things MS showed were a multi-plat (MGS5) and a game that has a very good chance of being on PS4 eventually (Titanfall). Hard to say what others would have done but for myself, if Sony had echoed MS's policies I'd either have taken another look at the Wii U or looked into building a gaming PC.
Yeah but Sony brought games too. Just as many and they announced they are working on more games in total than Microsoft. Soooo....
Sony First Party shown so far: 6/20. MS: About 11/15
It pains me to admit it, but MS would have edged them out a bit. MS's performance was simply more attention-grabbing.
Yeah bruh, voice activate remotes for your TV is a killer move.
You mean the one they BARELY mentioned at their E3 conference because they were busy showing games after games?
I know what you're getting at, and the PS fanboy inside me applauds you, but don't be unfair. They had a solid E3 and if you were here watching the Sony conference live, you would know that many people were growing bored and were worried that Sony had somehow dropped the ball despite their clearly more advantageous position as of late.
So you're saying you've seen an Xbox One game in action? Their presentation was PC's with 300-500 percent more graphics power then the Xbox One has and 200 percent more power then a PS4. Thus if a game 'looked good' at E3, it looked good on a massively more powerful PC. In other words, your impression at e3 didn't come from games running on an Xbox One. So should that be a valid reason to vote that MS won e3? Nope.
As a hardcore gamer, I recognize your reasoning and, quite frankly, I agree. However, simply from a basic consumer standpoint and not taking into account my own knowledge of what the games were running on, MS's conference was more interesting. @Ju Same basic message to you.
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... Confirmee not all games were. .. and of the best looking. .. forza 5... shows what the system can do
What games? MS had three games and faked the rest. Doesn't really change anything. PS4 is still the better box and still $100 cheaper.
I support Sony, but I have to kind of agree. However, I believe things will get interesting this games com.
what makes you think sony doesn't have games to show?they are better poker players when it comes to the E3 thing.MS had to show those games and still wasn't enough.sony just show some of their games but the price of the ps4 was a big deal.xbox has less power then the ps4 but cause of that camera they want 100 more dollars.we they do that at? social features and talking to a camera is not worth more then a stronger console.
I'm talking about their E3 conference performances, not their hardware features. And I never said that Sony didn't have games, bro...
I highly doubt it.
Yes. Every idiot journalist tried to group in Sony with Microsoft in May after MS announced their stupid DRM system. They demanded Sony address it. If Sony didn't have to address it at E3 to please everyone, they could have shown more games. Pretty simple.
Maybe with the cheaper price announcement but MS brought the GAMES it was just hard to overlook all the restrictions at the time
If sony showed not games on their first reveal and showed all their games on E3 unlike M$ who would of came on top. You need to remember M$ showed no games on their reveal. Shows if you truly watched the conference here is a reminder for you. http://www.polygon.com/play...
All sony showed at the reveal was killzone and knack i think of the launch titles... The problem was that at e3 sony showed alot of multiplats sure the kh3 and FF announcementS were exciting but later we found out they werent console exclusives and were coming to xbone as well
They showed Driveclub and inFAMOUS Second Son, dude.... They showed four exclusives and games with exclusive content. One of which we don't know is exclusive yet(Deep Down). So they showed quite a bit at their reveal. Microsoft showed just as many multiplatform games too. They both had impressive showings but Sony's was more spread out and I believe they'll announce things at Gamescom as well. They always save announcements for Gamescom.
Sony had - 4 exclusives running at the floor on actual HW. - Warframe & Blacklight Retribution as F2P FPS on actual HW at the show floor. - Indie games on actual HW on the show floor. - Destiny playable on actual HW on the show floor. - The Division presented on actual HW at Ubisoft. - Live presentation (and playable demo) of AC:Black Flag at their booth. Now, please explain to me, how MS had "the" games which was Forza, TitanFall, a fighting game cookie cutter a la Street Fighter and a side scroller with the rest running of off PC HW. Does not compute. Sorry. @Transporter47...this is more a response to Geezus and, well, I totally forgot The Witcher.
BTW I'm talking about Both Consoles FIRST reveal not E3.
@soapshoes yeah i forgot about driveclub but infamous isnt coming out till 2014 and yes sony probably has a few more announcemnts but MS still has some too for example the black tusk game that was teased at e3... Im just saying if you remove the drm and game sharing thing sony e3 conference was meh where MS was showed some exclusives not coming to the ps3 or wii like ryse, dead rising, quantam break, halo teaser, crimson dragon, sunset overdrive, Killer Instinct... Etc. it was just a more exciting e3 than PS since the got the boring stuff out of the way at theit original reveal
Sony could probably have done the same and shown games "in development" running "on PCs". How big would that outcry be, what you think. But they actually were sticking with what was actually working. You think those are the only one's in the pipeline?
@Ju Yeah sony had game but they're nothing new nothing we didnt know about already. xbox had some a couple of new ips and stuff ps4 had the order. alot of the game sony showed and had at their booths are coming to xbox and that was the problem of their e3 reveal and of course they probably do have some new game announcements but so does MS
The problem is that most games were announced when the PS4 was, so they didnt have a huge amount of reveals. But the FFXV was enough to get me excited.
Xbox one had a better showing. The PS4 price and no DRM killed M$. I'm still more interested in Xbox one games and online, but I refuse to get one because of DRM.
Now that the DRM has been axed, will you be buying XB1?
Xbox One dropped DRM.
Still have Kinect 2 http://www.guardian.co.uk/w...
Price would have been a factor in Sony's favour, but I found their conference lackluster at best. MS gave a better presentation, save for the last 20 minutes of Sony's event. MS' draconian policies and poor messaging gave Sony an open door to 'win' E3.
Please, PLEASE keep in mind that their conference was influenced by the need to distance themselves from what Microsoft had done.
Doubtful, it would probably be your normal type E3 where journalist will then ask is it still worth having have.
Yes. It's still.... $100 cheaper 50-125 percent more powerful Doesn't have Kinect 2 spying on you. Also since Microsoft used PC's using 300-500 percent more power it didn't exactly show anything to win anything. What you saw wasn't representative of what the Xbox One can do. Then when you consider the rumors of chip yield problems and overheating and nary a console in sight, and see the limited console allocations to gamestop and other places, you know they are going to be hard pressed to get this console out on time. Hopefully they don't push off a bunch of faulty boxes just to launch 'on time'. But seeing that they had a massive RROD during the last console launch, they are quite capable of repeating it. Even without anything, I would be wary of preordering any launch console Microsoft sells. Microsoft isn't out of the woods yet. ...and again no MS wouldn't of won e3.
Should I even ask why the XBO price got slapped on the PS4?
What count in the end is that consumers voice still haves the power to change things and that is something we should never forget.We have the POWER and the money!
NO definitely NO ..Sony didnt show any good exclusives, The Order was totally unimaginative (i dont wanna hear the same BS for Killzone or Second son)...Now we will see the real fight ..Now Sony you must show what you got there and if it is worth it (until now the only worth mentioning theoritical exclusive for PS4 is Deep DDown)...
For me yes only because KH announcement>all, but From an unbiassed view then No, MS showed allot more exclusives,plus mgsv,battlefield4,and witcher 3.
MGS, BF4 are MP and were not running on XB HW. The Witcher was presented on PS4 HW at Sony's. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
@JU i'm only talking about the presentation itself.
The "presentation" had (MS): MGS - video (MP) BF4 - played on PC (MP) The Witcher - ?? (MP) vs. [Sony] The Order 1866 - Video (exlcusive) Destiny - Live game play reveal on actual HW (MP) AC:Black Flag - Live Demo on stage (MP) - The Witcher 3 played live back stage (doesn't count as "presentation" - but again, was played on real HW) Forza wasn't played live (on stage) - the only real MS exclusive. Even after Sony's reveal. But you can put a KZ:SF/inFamous/Knack/DriveClub vs. Forza/TitanFall/Ryse and if you want to go on, pull in all the indies (that's just from the presentation). What's not covered I'd call the "small kitchen syndrome". Where the party looks just so much bigger if everybody stacks up in the tiny kitchen than the living room. That must leave that "unbiased" impression of yours.
Yes, although not by such a landslide. PS4 still has a huge price advantage.
Well u gotta give sony credit for standing by gamers & going against used games & it was said alot of big publishers like activision were mad at sony for announcing that. If sony doesnt do this, then microsoft would have gone on with its restrictions because it wouldnt be as bad as it looked but because sony did listen to gamers, they won consumers over & that plus gamers & Jimmy Fallon made microsoft rethink their whole stradegy again & I couldnt be more happier because this is only a good thing for the gaming industry as a whole. Game on.
Sony would have got worse because a) People are already hyping the hell out Titanfall and b)going second makes it seem worse. Meaning, the majority feel like MS showed off more exclusives and quality 3rd party titles and that Sony showed off a bunch of things we already knew about + Kingdom Hearts. Going second means Sony heard the outcry and didn't give a s***...making them worse than MS and a sorry bunch of followers.
Yes. Due to price and a slight advantage in games. Infamous & Killzone >> Titanfall & Ryse (although I have high expectation for Quantum Break). I didn't care about the other exclusives. For a clear victory, Sony would have to show Naughty Dog and a gameplay for The Order 1886
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