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Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

Don Mattrick: You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.

So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means: (Microsoft, Xbox One)

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cronaldo7  +   968d ago | Well said
Great day for gamers.
komp  +   968d ago | Well said
Power to everyone who had a voice.
except to those who were prepared to just accept it and buy it anyway.
darthv72  +   968d ago
great news
now lets get back to what's important. games.

I look forward to what the new ps4 and xb1 have to offer.

edit: i liked the benefits of the family share plan and hope that part of their policy isnt affected.
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malokevi  +   968d ago | Well said
I preferred the console as they announced it. I hope this has no impact on family plan, Cloud implementation, or Kinect integration... because that would piss me off.

I am waiting for answers on these things. Desperately.

I would hate to see them axe awesome features because of a group of people complained endlessly.
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bicfitness   968d ago | Bad language | show
4Sh0w  +   968d ago
Backpedal or not the end result is a plus. Will it end the negativity, NO.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   968d ago
So much for DRM is the future. This is evidence that WE the consumer can dictate what WE want. Never just blindly accept and defend anything. Thank you Microsoft for finally seeing the light.


***" I hope this has no impact on family plan, Cloud implementation, or Kinect integration"***

The family share will most likely be tossed. I see no reason why the Cloud or Kinect should be axed though, those could work without the previous restrictions implemented regardless.
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Blacktric  +   968d ago
It still costs 100 dollars more and still has mandatory Kinect requirement though.

"I preferred the console as they announced it."

Ahahahaha oh wow...
jsslifelike  +   968d ago
Shouldn't it read,"BACKP-E-D-A-L" ??

Who approves this fecal matter?
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Why o why   968d ago | Bad language | show
cwir  +   968d ago | Funny
-Don't thank us, thank Sony...

stupid Sony that wasn't ready for the future...

loulou  +   968d ago
if true, looks like n4g is going to need something new to hate.. i already know RAM!!

it was obvious that this was going to happen. after seeing the pendulum shift with pre-orders because of this, there was no way they could continue.

@dartv72 have a bubble
tuglu_pati  +   968d ago
found this. Confirmed?
BlackTar187  +   968d ago
good for gamers sad for M$ they completely lied to everyone and preached how it was a must and that its the future and yadaddadadad and now this role reversal. 2 days ago they said they were going to stick to their model.

rela82me  +   968d ago
This isn't the most current information released by Microsoft, that can be found here

"An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.

Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.
Godmars290  +   968d ago
Sorry, but its not over yet.

If the rumor is true as I understand it, XBO will still need to connect to the internet at least once. For many that's going to be one time too many.

And can only wonder what this is going to do to the OS(s) since they're going to have to almost rewrite them from the beginning.

And Still the PS4 is going to be the better deal in regards to price and power. Live TV is the only thing XBO has going. That and a few more exclusives.
DirtyLary  +   968d ago
Sony dictates what we want.

Get it right.
thechosenone  +   968d ago
They got their hand smacked and now they're reverting back to their old policies. lmao! The biggest fail in gaming history brought to you buy MS and the Xbone. DRM is dead! Let that be a lesson to the gaming industry.
xHeavYx  +   968d ago
I called it first

Still, $100 more for an inferior device who needs Kinect all the time
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NatureOfLogic  +   968d ago
I told people that MS and publishers NEEDED Sony on board to succeed. MS tried one last trick at E3, games and exclusive deals with some publishers. It seems they failed, now they're trying to patch up the bleeding. Is it too late is yet to be determined. Some gamers have lost confidence in them, rightfully so. They lied and lied, but I'm happy they changed it even with some blind followers.

Edit: Now MS will have this Image of being deceitful and evil. I'm sure they'll have to pay Sony for playing games on the disc, also what about hardware/software changes? delays?
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BattleAxe  +   968d ago
That's great that they're changing their policies, but it doesn't change Microsoft's original intent. It's almost like if someone said that they wanted to beat you up, but then they learned that you were going to call the cops, and so now they turn around and say that they aren't going to beat you up because they will get into trouble. Why people support companies like this, I'll never understand.
darthv72  +   968d ago
this has something to do with gamestop and the preorder situation. GS stopped taking preorders because this announcement was coming out.

a change of plans on the part of Ms would have to be sent out to retailers to inform them of the change.

Gamestop being one of the biggest retailers of new/used games probably got word of the change and stopped taking preorders.

Chances are those will open back up.

edit: no more family share plan = booooooo
but i can live with that. I wonder if they are contemplating changing the price as well?
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FITgamer  +   968d ago
@darth it looks like the family plan is no longer a feature. "These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray."
zeeshan  +   968d ago
credit also goes to Sony for putting immense pressure.
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longcat  +   968d ago
probably had more to do with it being otherwise considered as an unethical surveillance device....and soon to be illegal
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4Sh0w  +   968d ago
So no more game sharing? If so man I think they missed a golden opportunity everyone I talked to liked that better than used game drm.
Mainsqueeze  +   968d ago
Def going to pre order this today lol gonna have both ps4 and xbone! Way to speak up gamers and way to finally listen Microsoft.
RyuCloudStrife  +   968d ago
is kinect still required?
dedicatedtogamers  +   968d ago
FINALLY! Glad to see Microsoft listened, although it appears you still need to go online - once - to register the game.

"After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again."

It also means no online game sharing, no library streaming, no "play your library anywhere", stuff, no 10-person Family Plan, nothing like that. And Kinect is still required, which is a bummer.

Still, a huge victory for gamers, a huge blessing to Xbox fans who wanted to continue with their chosen brand, and (hopefully) a show of humility from Microsoft.
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gaffyh  +   968d ago
You're welcome Xbox fans, we just saved your system from being completely annihilated.
silenius  +   968d ago
YES !!!!!!!!!!

Guys this is a historic moment...

Kudos to each and every one of us for speaking our minds!!!
sikbeta  +   968d ago
Really greats news and really smart move, in Nov when the console launch, people will forget about the whole issue and all DRM-problem will be forgotten!

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ainsz  +   968d ago
It's very nice to see that the consumer can still have an influence over a multi billion giant like Microsoft. Of course this was also a reaction to Sony's plans. But 'the customer is always right' still holds true.
JokesOnYou  +   968d ago
This is stupid....yeah I complained but that was before I knew about game sharing, now with this reversal surely that means game sharing is dead. Thats stupid because it was a great option. So what do I do?..go back and complain for them to go ahead with drm, which obviously isnt going to happen. I think micro blew it on this decision listening to the whiners including me but it wasnt my fault since I originally thought it was full stop drm. Preorders were not behind, Amazon best seller rank #1 even with drm and xbox fans were getting excited. This pisses me off! All so we can wait for every damm person on planet earth to get internet, dumb*sses should of just ran a detailed survey among actual xbox live gold/silve t users asking which one we preferred of the two policies carefully outlining HOW each one worked. I bet my next paycheck game sharing would have won by a mile. F-ing micro is stupid!
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HammadTheBeast  +   968d ago
Kinect still required mandatory.
loulou  +   968d ago
i sense a disturbance in the force.. it is like a million sony fanboys assploded!!
guitarded77  +   968d ago
AWESOME!!! I'm so glad they listened. It just goes to show that if we stand up for something, things can change... even if it is just a first-world problem. I'm still pissed about how smug they were initially, but I may buy and XBOX One now eventually.

But I still don't trust them. We all know what they tried to do. This should have been the policy in the first place. Also, GameStop may have had a big hand in it. They remover XBOX One from pre-orders... that could have been the tipping point.
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SilentNegotiator  +   968d ago

Next on the agenda: Get rid of required Kinect, have bundles without Kinect included at $100 less.
SilentNegotiator  +   968d ago
"I preferred the console as they announced it. I hope this has no impact on family plan"

Imagine how gamers would form 10 person share groups. That probably would have had worse impact on their sales than used games.


I can't believe you fanboys still think that Playstation gamers are hypocrites over this situation. First of all, look at the massive campaign performed to keep DRM away from PS4. Then, look at this comment section; everyone is ecstatic!
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thechosenone  +   968d ago
I would never support a company that tried to push the BS that MS you never know what they might try to pull down the line. Sorry but they lost my trust. Also the games they showed off were extremely lame I'm not interested at all.

PS4 hardware is more powerful Sony has the best exclusives on any platform, PS+ and all the other little things that Sony is offering makes it a far superior product.
MestreRothN4G  +   968d ago
Even though we should be prepared for obvious hidden restrictions. The signal was very clear.
aiBreeze  +   968d ago
Now offer a non kinect bundle for the same price as a PS4 and they'll have another preorder.
komp  +   968d ago
@loulou + 4m ago
"i sense a disturbance in the force.. it is like a million sony fanboys assploded!! "

I don't think so. I would say most of us SONY fans are thankful for the situation being resolved, finally. It means that going forward the awful DRM on consoles will not blight anyone due to this turn of events.

We all win.
JoySticksFTW  +   968d ago
For those upset about the Kinnect and $100 price difference
I get it, but let's savor this sweet sweet victory for now.

Tomorrow, we'll start in on MS over that price >:)

Congrats gamers!

Screw you, apologists
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DragonKnight  +   968d ago | Well said
*clears throat* Ahem..... LMFAO! What happened to "The PS4 isn't a threat" or "The PS4 isn't going to make us change anything" or "We're not changing the DRM?"

This has to be because of the Jimmy Fallon show. It sure as hell isn't because of "the community." This is the same company that didn't give a damn about the community when they tried to pull this garbage. But once they heard the audience on the Jimmy Fallon show applauding what Sony was doing, they were like "oh sh*t the casual mainstream audience likes it too" and they changed the Xbox One to the Xbox One Eighty.

Microsoft are hilarious.

Gotta say though, congratulations to the Xbox brand's fans. This is a win for you guys today. Even if MS showed nothing but contempt for the core audience up until this point, you had to have been heard on some level.

Now then, I can't wait to see the shills backpeddle and pat themselves on the back at the same time for loving the DRM and now being happy that it's gone. Oh the hilarity. I would so love it if I could tag some members in this post.
Jessika_S  +   968d ago
I for one was ok, with what they had going the Idea for sharing games was interesting to me at least and some of my family and friends. Do I think this is great yes but you have to think that the infrastructure is there for them to turn it back on if they wish but then again Sony probably could as well. For today I guess it is a win for those who wanted this.
SilentNegotiator  +   968d ago
"Preorders were not behind, Amazon best seller rank #1 even with drm and xbox fans were getting excited. This pisses me off! "

Uhhh, are you not aware that the Ps4 had about 7 places in the top 20 and Gamestop reports were saying Ps4 was ahead by a massive amount?

Xbox preorders were absolutely behind.
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SecondSon  +   968d ago
Congratulations Gamers!
We have shown some of the biggest industries that they are nothing without us and that as a group we will always be stronger than them!

Gamers have really united over the last couple of weeks and I respect every person who stood up against this attempt to step over the consumers!

However I do think who ever preordered the Xbox One before this announcement does not deserve to benefit from our boycott! Whilst Xbox fans decided they wouldn't be buying into MS game others blindly went ahead and supported some of the most ridiculous business practises we have seen in quite a while!

If you have already preordered don't ever play your console if you happen to loose connection for 24 hours! You don't deserve to!
indubitably  +   968d ago
The previous method of only using game discs as installs benefited me way more than the changes do now. It wasn't just accepting it, it was buying what benefits you most. I never bought used games or sold my games so I did not care about that at all. I also always have an internet connection so that isn't a worry for me either.
Why o why  +   968d ago
Jokes, this doesnt necessarily mean game sharing is dead EVEN THOUGHT I didn't believe it was going to be like what some of you guys thought it was gonna be like anyway. It will be the same as ps plus maybe. Who knows. Well done though..pissed it turns out to be a bitter sweet moment.
Dee_91  +   968d ago
WE DID IT !!!!!!
hell yea
I thought they would have to change some hardware and that would push the date back but I guess not.
This is awesome.Forza Titan fall ryse here I come :)
MSFT knew they wouldnt last long with those policies, no matter how often they tried to spin it
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Winter47th  +   968d ago
Good day, but is the damage already done?
MizTv  +   968d ago
Lol still won't get one
Winter47th  +   968d ago
We have Sony to thank for this.
Sony360  +   968d ago
Very well said.

Now all Microsoft needs to do is give us free multiplayer, and it'll be doing at least one thing the Ps4 isn't.

But expecting not to pay for something from Microsoft is like expecting it to rain giraffes tomorrow.
ShinMaster  +   968d ago
After they were so smug and arrogant about it? Now they "appreciate" our feedback? wtf
It's great that they've made it less restrictive when it comes to online and DRM. But there is still the issue of being less powerful and more expensive and not being supported in a lot of places.
Paying more for less? Some people must REALLY like Halo that much.
SuperLupe  +   968d ago
Looks like Sony was celebrating too fast lol. Damn this is freaking huge.
Wow ... So we get the XOne a console with a better lineup of game o far the the PS4 with no DRM and no 24h check in : M-E-G-A-T-O-N.

Now just cut the price to 399 and its ON !!
Bigpappy  +   968d ago
I hate this plan. M$ will hear from me. I want Real Xbox owners to contact M$ and let them know, that we prefer the plan that would allow us to share our digital games with family members. I prefer that over selling my games at a huge lost and buying used games at a $5 savings any day. At least this is the way it should work in the US. For people in the rest of the world who don't have reliable internet, they can keep that disk based system.

I plan on buy 90% of my games digitally. I would like to share and trade those games. I don't have time to be running to the store only to find they are sold out or only got for pre-orders.

I we keep listing to these right wing nosy people, we will never advance. We will stay in the 1940's. They always think someone is the spying on them and out to get them. What are these people really trying to high anyway. If the gov want to see me nail my wife, they are welcome to watch and see how its done. make sure you capture my butt in 1080p.

But seriously,: this is disappointing and will cost me a lot of money. My Xbox was always connected from day one and I have never had the desire to buy stolen games.

Please stick to your guns M$.

Now I am seriously thinking about leaving this gaming crap to the loud and obnoxious.

I think what they really ended up doing here is pissing off everyone now. Xbox was still seeing strong support, because some of us understood the benefits that came with sharing digital content. Now I have to run to the store and buy multiple copies of every good darn game because of a bunch of mindless sheep.

I don't know why people feel so proud of being lead around. You let a few anti-Microsoft nutts convince you that M$ is conspiring with the Gov to get you. You let them tell you that this is a political fight for you rights. All this is about, is rather you want to be able to download and share your games securely, or if you want to continue running to the store and coming back home to swap disk.

Here is the kicker. Many of you will realize soon after you buy your consoles, that you are buying lost of games digitally for the convenience of it, then you can't do anything with them. Can't lend, trade, sell, share... nothing. Enjoy your f'ing victory!
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thethiny  +   968d ago
I actually , accepted the DRM , I thought it would be better to have your Library anywhere , and the ability to share your games with 10 friends at the same time. I also loved the idea of reselling.
But I guess , people wanted it this way , so I must accept that fate.
VersaVulture89  +   968d ago
No one seems to understand that Kinect is NOT required for games... It must be connected, but that's more for the voice commands and navigation on the dashboard. For games, a majority of them are all controller based. Games like Ryse, Dead Rising 3, Fifa 14, Forza Motorsport 5 and Crimson Dragon all support Kinect and don't require it.

The only games that NEED Kinect are games like Kinect Sports Rivals and Fantasia: Music Evolved. Plus Kinect CAN BE turned off... It just needs to be connected. That's not a huge deal at all.
TOSgamer  +   968d ago
Xbox idiots complaining about the removal of drm just makes me want to slap someone. Your system of choice was gonna get smoked. Xbox one number one at Amazon? Its because Amazon was forcing about 5 different bundles for the ps4 to get one on launch day. Of course the ONLY choice for Xbox One was outselling any one of the 5 choices for ps4. Xbox got themselves back in the game with this reversal and the morons are complaining about it. lol
DragonKnight  +   968d ago
Wow. There are people that actually wanted the DRM. Incredible.
Conzul  +   968d ago
Great news!

We have staved off a repulsive future for a little longer!

Still mandatory KINECT, though. I refuse to purchase any piece of technology that won't work unless it's allowed to WATCH ME.
MikeMyers  +   968d ago
"Wow. There are people that actually wanted the DRM. Incredible."

So you've never bought anything off the Playstation Store?
nosferatuzodd  +   968d ago
oh Now feed back matters.

I still don't trust them if it wasn't for Sony everybody would be drinking drm for breakfast lunch and dinner right now later on when every one forget because of short memory DRM DRM ha ha ha we got you now you already buy the lie
dantesparda  +   968d ago
They (MS) crumbled quicker than i thought. But this is a good day for gamers everywhere. Now lower the price to $350 and get rid of that stupid fvcking camera, you're system is inferior and shouldnt cost the same as the PS4. Now let the back pedaling begin!
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Ares84HU  +   968d ago
I'm very happy about this!! Now the Xbox One has a fighting chance and there could be some good competition again.
RyuCloudStrife  +   968d ago
the Xbox one is still a surveillance device...
kparks  +   968d ago
If u ask me too little too late they got up there spouting the DRM is the future BS like gamers are morons then they refuse to change it then only after the xbox one is getting blown away by the ps4 pre-orders these money hungry pigs come out and say woops u guys are right and were listening.. Well i hope so because if u weren't xbox would be dead!
Dmagic  +   968d ago
Preorders were not behind, Amazon best seller rank #1 even with drm and xbox fans were getting excited. its number one because ps4 ran out of systems to sell dummy it is a top "sellers" list if you cant sell anymore that week then you drop
MysticStrummer  +   968d ago
@ MikeMyers - "So you've never bought anything off the Playstation Store?"

Of course, because that's the only option with some titles. I prefer a physical copy any day of the week.

You guys who wanted DRM need to get it through your heads that you're the minority. Either that, or organize a movement of your own and see if you can get MS to change their minds again. Such a movement would fail, but it would be amusing to watch you try.
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papashango  +   968d ago
I'm amazed people would rather say thank sony then just be proud of themselves as a consumer.

The people spoke and M$ finally got their heads out their rear end and listened.

This is a win for the consumer. Don't let anybody give another corporation the credit here.
Thomper  +   968d ago
And now the family plan is dead...
NewZealander  +   968d ago
yeah thanks to the sony fanboys, they moaned louder then anyone else!

seriously though i was proud to make my oppinion known on every forum and protest site i could, and im happy with the result!
ramiuk1  +   968d ago
yes i think we as a entire gaming comunity should be proud.
it goes to show that if we all have one voice and go for waht we believe in it works.

next is DLC ??

wonder if EA bring back there online passes lol.

i wonder what happens to the library sharing?
before it could be shared accross consoles in house,that feature must be gone also.

well least u can do one thing they promised(watch your already paid for tv on it)

although im getting ps4,i will 95% chance i will get a xbone a couple months after launch.

i hope they do free games like on ps+ too.
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Gamer1982  +   967d ago
It is a great day for xbox gamers but don't be fooled into thinking this was down to gamers this is down to press. Ms has not been listening to gamers for years now and we found that out at E3. After Jimmy Fallon show showing off yet again Xbox cannot do used games and play offline for an infinite amount of time they changed the xbox DRM. But lets not knock the fact its done. It's still a long way to go though as PS4 is still cheaper and Kinect is still forced down your throat. Your paying that extra $100 for Kinect whether you want it or not. Without Kinect they could have probably released the console at $349.
BallsEye  +   967d ago
It is great news indeed! I do hope that they won't drop the family sharing because of it.. I really liked the idea ;( was ready to abuse the crap out of it. Anyway, fanboys will find a new reason to say xbxo one sucks...N4G! ;]
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princejb134  +   967d ago
That's awesome for the fans
Wouldn't be surprised though if down the line they add their drm restrictions again later in the xbone life cycle
EVILDEAD360  +   967d ago
This is a great day in gaming.

The PR buffoonery had to have shown MS that this would have been the dumbest move in console history.

Now let's see where we go from here.

NatureOfLogic  +   968d ago
*grabs popcorn* This should be good.
BattleTorn  +   968d ago
I'm kinda bummed :(

"Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray."

Bye Bye family-sharing, and hello disc-swapping :(
Atomicjuicer  +   968d ago
If they remove kinect requirement and drop the price I might get one.

For now the ps4 still reigns.

Fair play to Microsoft for reversing though - that must have been awkward internally!
Cueil  +   968d ago
I think there was pressure inside of Xbox division this whole time and fans were the last straw... surprised some people are not getting the boot
Godmars290  +   968d ago
No. Launch day is going to be - likely horrible actually.

MS is now - currently - committed to a November release and have practically announced that they need to rewrite the OS of their console to remove its DRM in its current state. And that console has three OSs.

And again, this is MS: a software company which despite its success is only known for releasing buggy software. Of needed ages to patch it. Nevermind that at E3 they didn't have the confidence to even run demos on dev kits. Didn't even use Windows 8, and XBO uses W8.

Chances are if you're into train wrecks, you're going to need more popcorn...

I don't mean to sound evil much less fanboyish, its just that with MS being so arrogant and oblivious to something anyone with an honest lick of sense could see as bad at the very first whispering of rumor, I can only see a speeding locomotive headed towards a very broken down bridge.
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FragMnTagM  +   968d ago

Why would you need to swap discs?

I am sure they are using Blu Ray for games since it plays blu ray now.

Other than playing a different disc based game, then the one you have in the tray you shouldn't have to swap discs.

If you download your games instead of buying disc, then you will never have to swap anything. You just won't be able to resell it is all.
sikbeta  +   968d ago
Not good... AWESOME! MS listened and now everything is good in the world of gaming, how it should have been from the start :D
BattleTorn  +   968d ago

One of the "scenarios [they] previously announced" was that you wouldn't have to re-insert a game after the intial install.. that's now undone.
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PFFT  +   968d ago
XBO adopted the Blu-Ray drive as well!
Gameatholon  +   968d ago
Congratulations to Microsoft, you have successfully alienated an entire population of gamers with your choices these last couple of weeks.

" I really have to say that the Xbox One does not even have a vision anymore. They have effectively gone back on all the features that made their console "future proof", "revolutionary" and "over-delivering on value" as they claimed.

So what is the vision for the console now? And no, " we have removed the DRM" is not a vision."
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Mikey32230  +   968d ago
I wouldnt get to excited yet. wtf does this even mean? LOL Does not have to be always connected but does required a connection to the internet... so they will make it a Internet connection check every Week, or 2 weeks. Still sucks

Q: Does Xbox One require an “always on” Internet connection?
A: No, it does not have to be always connected, but Xbox One does require a connection to the Internet. We’re designing Xbox One to be your all-in-one entertainment system that is connected to the cloud and always ready. We are also designing it so you can play games and watch Blu-ray movies and live TV if you lose your connection.
Virtual_Reality  +   968d ago

Anonymous sources are saying to Giant Bomb all that.

No more always online requirement
The console no longer has to check in every 24 hours
All game discs will work on Xbox One as they do on Xbox 360
An Internet connection is only required when initially setting up the console
All downloaded games will function the same when online or offline
No additional restrictions on trading games or loaning discs
Region locks have been dropped
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BattleAxe  +   968d ago
Just seems like more confusion to me.
HammadTheBeast  +   968d ago

Some of this is not true.
SKullDugger  +   968d ago
The full story is on IGN no used game fees and will only need a internet connection for the initial set up after that no 24 hr check will be needed..
famoussasjohn  +   968d ago
Virtual_Reality - I see nothing about region locks being removed. Nor am I seeing the 24 hour check being removed or increased. It was never "always online", it was "Online within the last 24 hours in order to play games".

Just a bunch of "alleged" details. I'll wait for Microsoft to come and say this. I'd be truly shocked if even half of those were happening.

final edit : wow..they really did. Congrats Microsoft. This is a step in the right direction. I applaud them of dropping their arrogance and siding with the consumers with this one. Still region locked.
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HammadTheBeast  +   968d ago
Xbox supporters, please comment here. Please outline again for us, all the "benefits" of DRM that we're now losing out on lol.

It's a decent change, but nothing at all to be proud of. This is how it should've been in the first place, don't congratulate Microsoft for backing out after seeing the hate.

And this proves all that BS the execs were spewing for the past 2 weeks.
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bicfitness  +   968d ago
And the crickets played on and on.
jcnba28  +   968d ago
Yet you people have no problem praising Sony for keeping things the same way since consoles existed? Flip flopping much?
Heartnet  +   968d ago
It allows developers 100% gurrenteed that the player is online thus can develop things for that.. Such as Cloud computing and offloading thigns to MS servers.... now they cant do that as u can be offline and they have to prepare as such..
NextGen24Gamer  +   968d ago
I need to hear more about what is going on! I'm not happy if they are changing the family share. I was really excited about that.

I'm also not happy in how this may or may not help with the cloud for games. Developers won't invest if they aren't guaranteed a large user base is always connected.

I loved the DRM and what comes with always being online.

I hope we get more info on this.

Not happy at all with the initial news!

Though it should make it easier for the gamers who were anti DRM to jump in and not miss out on the next gen Xbox Only Titles!

I never really cared about sales...I just wanted quality and next gen features. More info needed for sure!

If it's true, Pre orders should sky rocket, though Xbox One is still #1 on Amazon in regards to pre orders!

What Microsoft didn't understand is that though we aren't as loud as the sony loud mouths, we talk with our wallets and many of us were and hopefully are still excited about those next gen features.

More info needed...Dang it!

I hope they keep Kinnect as part of the system. That would be a horrible mistake if they didn't. Separate yourself from Sony... The same reason I wasn't hype about the ps4 could now happen with the xbox one. Don't just be a new system with better graphics...

Stay innovative and push the industry forward Microsoft!!!!!
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jmc8888  +   968d ago

How many people shilled for M$ saying...but you need all this.

Once again, power to the people, and those with brains and fortitude to call them out.

Good job everyone.

But the fight isn't over.

Now we need them to drop the mandatory Kinect connection.

Again Steam has shown that you can share without the barbaric restrictions. I wouldn't be surprised if catching wind of what Steam was doing was the last straw.

Because that kicked out their last legs.
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MELMAN26  +   968d ago
I will If they are getting rid of the "share your games feature" I will be a little bummed out. Most of my gaming friends are in others states, and it would have been nice to give them full access to my library of games, without having to ship them the disc.

I am happy that things are going back to the way they should be, but damn that was a nice feature.

Well said Captain Qwark, I was planning to buy both systems and looking forward to the different experiences both systems were going to provide.
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Captain Qwark 9  +   968d ago
i think its retarded, i hope the features remain the same. i wanted discless playing, cloud gaming, etc. if they dropped those features to accommodate the sony drones and their loud ass mouths ill be annoyed. they could have just kept silent, pre orded and bought their ps4's and let those who wanted the x1 the way it was be. but instead no, they have to bash, and spread negative bs about a console they werent going to buy in the first place causing ms to retract their policies which could possibly make the x1 no different than an updated 360 and even more so like the ps4 which while its decent, really isnt bringing anything new to the table other than prettier graphics
DoesUs  +   968d ago

Oh you 8)

LOL, already flip flopping. Shill of the finest order.

It's the Sony "loud mouths" that have helped hugely in this as die hard MS supporters/shills have their heads stuck so far up MS @rse they choose be oblivious to anything else. People like you and GreenPowerz/POG make me sick.
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bicfitness  +   968d ago
@ Elite Gamer. This is the yearly bestsellers list. Hate to burst your bubble:

Ps4 (Launch Day) #2
Xbone (Day One) #8

A little perspective for ya.
The_HarryEtTubMan  +   968d ago
Bu bu bu how can we even play Titanfall now without teh power of the cloud??
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Why o why  +   968d ago
Captain qwark blames this on sony drones

You, are quite ignorant to the facts that YOU are in a minority of people who wanted drm and microsoft don't care about the minority....they care about money. Well done ms fans who stood up to this crap. Well done. Like lou said us sony fans can start hating on ram and mandatory kinect....lmao

*fist pump*


Lou, c'mon man. Just be happy. Some maybe annoyed for what reason I don't know but just savour the moment. Consumers made this happen. Common sense made this happen.

I also think there are some people who should be called out....the lapdog types that were trying to group and project that sony would do the same and how we're all gonna have drm before sony dropped the e3 bomb. Some were still doing it up to an hour ago. People aren't mad ms done a u turn, they're probably mad at the hypocrisy.

Personally I'm pleased with the 360 fans who expressed an annoyance and sent emails, signed petitions. I'm annoyed at the free lube dudes who wanted to defend ms's actions at every corner.
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BattleTorn  +   968d ago
I'm upset that they backed down :(

"Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray."

We won't have the "family-sharing" - and back to swapping discs.

too bad, but I won't pretend that this isn't incredible news for all those you never supported it
HammadTheBeast  +   968d ago
Oh no. We're getting into the trenches now. This will be a long next few months....
torchic  +   968d ago

you are an absolute disgrace.
DigitalRaptor  +   968d ago
@ Loulou

Why don't you do the same?

Stop with the presumptions. I'm very happy that most of the vile restrictions have been removed, and I'm happy for the people who wanted to get an Xbox One, but who's morals were strong.

This is good news. It doesn't mean I'm going to support the company that tried to control our ownership with restrictive DRM and forced online. The same company that still doesn't give a rats ass about the consumer, and only made this statement to protect their brand reputation and their market share and sales potential, against PS4.

People like you are only looking to start things. The Sony fans here are mocking the apologists and shills who tried to paint DRM and restrictions in a positive light - the ones who deserve it.
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Sony360  +   968d ago
Everyone congratulated Sony just for NOT screwing customers, which I thought was silly. This is no different, in fact it's a cause for more celebration because it showed that the consumer does have a voice that will be listened to.

We still have a multiplayer fee from both consoles now, since Sony decided to slip that under the net while everyone was losing their shit over the announcements of no DRM, and we still have more disadvantages to owning and Xbox one instead of a Ps4.

Not much has changed about which will be a better gaming console (The Ps4 still is), but don't be so quick to side with Sony, because they are adding a restriction or two themselves, and annoyingly NO ONE is complaining and instead defending it.
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nachokingp  +   968d ago
Okay, here goes:

1) Persistent Game Library: being able to access your entire game library from anywhere because your console can authenticate to MS's servers on any system. This will be tied to your account FOREVER, even if your house burns down.

2) Family Share: Sharing your ENTIRE GAME LIBRARY with up to 10 people because your console can authenticate the authorization on their machine.

3) Diskless gaming: NEVER having to keep your games handy because they are installed on the drive and can be authorized for playback from MS's servers.

All those things are now GONE. Thanks @$$hats.
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DigitalRaptor  +   968d ago
@ Nachokingp

You along with every DRM and restriction-based supporters are a disgrace. Your 3 point list is garbage and I'll tell you why.

Number 1) and 3) are the same thing, pretty much.

1) Persistent Game Library: This is called, wait for it.. buying a game digitally. It's tied to you account forever, even if your house burns down. Why would you support the purchase of a disc that becomes useless once you've installed it?

2) Family sharing: This can be done, without the restrictions surrounding the console. It exists on PS3 with no problem - it used to be 5 devices, but due to publisher pressure, it's now 2. However, out of these 10 "family members", only 2 can be playing it at the same time, unless I'm wrong on that. So regardless, it's not that "sweet deal" that you thought it was going to be.

3) Diskless gaming: Again, it's called buying the game digitally. And to pour salt into your exposed wound, do you recall that NON-REMOVABLE 500GB HDD?? How many games do you think you will be able to install on there until there's no more space?

My god, some of you loyalists are so devoted to supporting anti-consumer practices, that you blind yourself to logic and what is the fundamental truth. Just accept that the worst parts of the Xbox One have been neutralised, or you're beyond lost here.
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MysticStrummer  +   968d ago
@Elite24Gamer - Please, I'm begging you, please try to organize a movement to see how many people support DRM, and try to get MS to change their minds again.

It will be highly amusing.
insomnium2  +   968d ago
LOL @ nacho

MS would've NEVER EVER allowed sharing of games between 10 people. NEVER EVER in a million years!

If Sony can't have 5 people sharing games how the hell would've MS managed to do it between 10? LOL even IF (and that's a big if) MS would've gone forward with this it would've taken them probably about 2 months and they would've been forced to change it. People always abuse stuff like this. happend with 5 people sharing on PS3, happened with other OS on PS3. People just love to screw and abuse these things so it's not going to fly.
BallsEye  +   967d ago
Family sharing. if 10 people buy 10 games each you can access 100 games , without restrictions except that 2 people can play same copy in same time on different consoles. I really wanted this feature..My buds are everywhere in the world and would love to share games with them without mailing the damn disc.
nachokingp  +   967d ago
@insomnium2, Microsoft had already announced that as a feature prior to changing its stance, so I'm not really sure what planet you're reading your news from, but on this one, you were wrong before you even started typing your reply.

@DigitalRaptor, Digital games couldn't be shared with people, at all, unless you bought a second copy and gifted it to them permanently. Having the ability to let my friends play a game I bought was a BIG deal to a lot of us and now we've lost it. It may not be important to YOU, but that doesn't mean that many of us aren't disappointed now. And the reason I am supporting discs that "becomes useless once you've installed it" is because I LIKE that I can install a game from disc and not have to download 50GB of data. Let's not forget, Xbox One is moving to blu-ray format, and game sizes are going to triple from what they are now, and even now some games require multiple discs. I don't want to have to wait hours and burn through my ISP's data cap just to play a game.
komp  +   968d ago
Hold on. It says nothing about DRM at all.

Seems like nothing has changed. Unless you count what is not mentioned, DRM as proof it is being removed?



"We are also designing it so you can play games and watch Blu-ray movies and live TV if you lose your connection."

That is not confirming a lot really. What games?
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aquamala  +   968d ago
as of now the FAQ has not been updated yet, that's the same info from 5/1
komp  +   968d ago



dbl bubbles..

Ahh, now that makes sense, thanks guys.
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Jazz4108  +   968d ago
I just opened my last of us and found drm online pass bs. I ha e noticed this any many sony first party titles and ms has no drm in any of there first partg and was planning on keeping it thag way but somehow now ms is the bad guy leavjng it up to third party. Dont mattrr now noth conses have the same design now and I expect live and its reliability to win right there. As far as the cloud goes ms will simply require a interneg connection for those games. Its not brain surgery. Ioved ms digital shared plan and explained it on here many times but everyone made fun of me and downvoted me. Real nice group of gamers we have here on n4g / sarcastic.
insomnium2  +   968d ago
@ jazz

MS would've NEVER EVER allowed sharing of games between 10 people.
bicfitness  +   968d ago
Its definitely a start. Now get the price down and cut out Kinect and we could have somewhat of a less hobbled race. As it is the hardware is still less powerful and $100 more expensive. Power can be overlooked with clever enough software, but the price disparity will kill MS more than anything else.

Are all the crazy Xbox fanboys defending "cloud magic" (how will that work, now that there is no more online required?) and "family sharing" (again, you can expect a modification to that policy now) going to pop their heads back into this thread, I wonder? Or will they just stay hiding? Console loyalty aside, the only people who defended MS' policies were either uneducated or shills.
darthv72  +   968d ago
cut the price
but keep the kinect. I like that if its in every box, it leaves no excuse for developers to treat it as an afterthought.
Ausbo  +   968d ago
Who cares about kinect always being connected. It comes in the box. Its better its connected cause then developers have it easy knowing eveveryone has one.

If you dont want to use it, dont use it. Simple as that. A price cut would be sweet though
Serg  +   968d ago
The XBox was never an "always online" box to begin with, so that cloud marketing BS they are spouting to lure in the technologically illiterate, is moot in any case.

All that was previously required was a 24 hour check in, for which you could've used a dial up modem. It was only there for DRM purposes.
Prophet-Gamer  +   968d ago
Very awesome news. If DRM and online checks are gone, I'll be buying both an X1 and PS4 this holiday season.
andibandit  +   968d ago
Love how you get disagrees for saying that.

I'll be getting both as well, simply because i love gaming.
PFFT  +   968d ago
Same here. XBO and PS4 for me.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   968d ago
I think MS finally realizes you can't force people into this kind of thing.

It is a seriously great day. For not only Xbox gamers, but for all gamers.

EDIT: More confirmed sources

let me know if these links work or not.

IGN: "Microsoft has reportedly changed its policies regarding Xbox One’s internet requirement, used game restrictions and more. Contrary to the details announced earlier this month, anonymous sources now tell Giant Bomb that Xbox One will no longer require an internet connection or need to check in every 24 hours; instead, internet will only be required when initially setting up the console."

"Xbox One will allegedly also no longer restrict used games, and will instead allow discs to be exchanged in the same way they are on Xbox 360 with no additional restrictions for trade-ins or lending games to friends. The system is also said to no longer be region locked and all downloaded games will function the same way whether your console is connected or not."

A great day people...
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avengers1978  +   968d ago
Ign and gametrailers link worked fine for me but not the other one
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Lovable  +   968d ago

Yeah just a few hours you were defending them. LOL
avengers1978  +   968d ago
If this is all true, I may just pick up a XB1 when Titan fall is released... It all still seems a bit fuzzy to me
AngelicIceDiamond  +   968d ago
Yeah, it should be classified as rumor. This is still shady even for MS. MS has every reason to "backpedal" but its MS, they are stubborn and egotistical. Take this with a huge grain of salt.
NateCole  +   968d ago
Thank God. Now game publishers and every console holders should realise by now that gamers rules.

What i want to hear now is them backpeddling on Kinetic needing to watch people all the time then i am good with MS.
aviator189  +   968d ago
I agree.
This is terrific news.

I applaud the interwebs. :)
HurtfulTimez  +   968d ago
Agreed, i just hope this is all true as i may finally purchase an xbone providing this is true, i hope they make kinect optional too - its a guarenteed buy for me in the future if they do that. hopefully more details and clarification will arrive.
mosasha  +   968d ago
its true its on the official xbox site what else would it be
HurtfulTimez  +   968d ago
@ below - the link was broken when I posted so I didn't get to read the full story
tuglu_pati  +   968d ago
if true great, but i doubt it.
Mr_Nuts  +   968d ago
Keep going people

Mandatory Kinect is next.....keep complaining, we've only jumped over one hurdle, still got the rest of the track to go.
nachokingp  +   968d ago
You do realize that by eliminating Kinect, you'd basically have to rewrite the entire OS that was planned and designed around it being an integral part of functionality, right? And that by eliminating it, you would essentially be dooming the console to be delayed for months, if not a full year, to completely rewrite the code? That's what you want, amiright?
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Mr_Nuts  +   968d ago
@Nacho - Isn't that what people said about DRM.....look whats just happened
The_HarryEtTubMan  +   968d ago
biRdy  +   968d ago
They listened!
Gamers know best!
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Anon1974  +   968d ago
So you still need internet to setup the console though. That's still 33% of Americans that don't have access to high speed internet. I'm sure people could find ways around that by having someone setup a wi-fi spot with their phone or something to at least have the system setup, but this requirement is still a detriment to the system as most likely it'll still keep people without internet away. It's still a headache but at least a huge step in a reasonable direction. There's still the matter of price though compared to it's competition.

I think it's 100% the right thing for Microsoft to do though and my hat's off to them for listening to gamers (although, really what choice did they have given the backlash).

Besides, I hated the "Xbone" nickname. "Xbox One-Eighty" has a much nicer ring to it. :)
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maniacmayhem  +   968d ago
I like XboxWon even more.
GameCents  +   968d ago
Jee wizz Debbie Downer. Can we have a moment?
Anon1974  +   968d ago
I'd been partial to Xbox Juan.

Edit: @GameCents. Well come on. It's like "Yay, no more internet required....except for if you want to setup and activate your system." It's a good move, but it's not a silver bullet that suddenly solved the internet issue. It's not like people without internet are suddenly dancing in the streets.

...although without internet they probably don't know yet...
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whoyouwit04  +   968d ago
well no one can no longer say microsoft doesn't listen. I just really hope this doesn't effect the family plan.
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maniacmayhem  +   968d ago

Hey MS while you are in the listening mood how about relaxing those restrictions for indie developers?

Ok, ok, a step at a time...
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takohma  +   968d ago
So they do have a restriction for indies? Got a link. I have to prove someone wrong lol. Super hard Microsoft fan I'm cool with who kept defending all this stuff. Would love to have proof to send him. Every time I go over his house before I can even say one word he's talking about how much Sony sucks. Completely ignoring any good points I may make. But he's still my friend so I tolerate until I just leave from being tired of him talking about it
GameCents  +   968d ago
Oh thank God!! In spite of my better judgement I've grown to become an Xbox Fan-boy and it was killing me knowing my future would not include One but a 4 and Wii u instead.
I love gaming but X1 was making me lose my luster a bit there. I own both ps3 and x360, but my blood runs green!

This has put a GIANT GRIN on my face!! One 4 U & me!!
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RM-TatoTiburon  +   968d ago
well now we all can be happy now
finbars75  +   968d ago
It doesnt matter if they announced this.Im sorry but all the crap they pulled and all of a sudden they decide where going to backpedal like that tells me that they did this because preorders where terrible, but mark my words now they will have some stipulation down the road witht the xboxone.A company doesnt just fold there crads like that withought some reason that we dont know about.They where also saying that MS did this to boost preorders as well so another sign that MS isnt to be trusted.If you guys go back to MS after all the shit they pulled and said then your only asking to get burned in the end.Give it time you will see.
GameCents  +   968d ago
You seem upset.
Imalwaysright  +   968d ago
Why can't you guys just enjoy the moment? We, gamers, forced a multi billion $ company to bendover. This is a victory to us.
Sony360  +   968d ago
Just be happy that a greedy company actually listened and removed a bunch of bullshit restrictions, no thanks to the people who were prepared to buy it anyway.
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DeathofSouls  +   968d ago
people are having trouble reading the letter due to high traffic, so here -----

Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.

For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.

Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.

You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.

So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:

•An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.

•Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.

In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions.

These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.

We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.

Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.
kickerz  +   968d ago
This is HUGE. Good work MS
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kickerz  +   967d ago
That's what she said... Lol actually MS was thinking about the future which I was ready for but most of u guys weren't.
Death  +   968d ago

The ability to access your entire library without needing the disc in the tray was huge. Remote access to your entire library anywhere you were is a great feature. This is not a win for "gamers", this is ignorance screwing those that really wanted these features.
Salooh  +   968d ago
It's good compared to xbox live games but it's not when you compare it to the physical disc. The 10 family members can't use it at the same time. So it's almost the same thing but you can't sell it until now..

They should have made it a positive thing for X1 instead of removing it .
zme-ul  +   968d ago
bunch of morons at MS need to be axed .. ASAP!
fr0sty  +   968d ago
Congrats MS, after a nice price cut I may consider buying your box now.
360degrees  +   968d ago
Although I feel this is of slight detriment for some of the more exciting and innovative features that Microsoft had originally planned for the Xbox One, in regards to the grand scheme of things this is truly fantastic to appease that rather small, specific audience demographic of gamer who had miniscule(nitpicking) issues with the previously proposed digital rights management/ 24 hour check in policy. Truly, this should only further serve to enhance the already incredible pre order sales that Microsoft has been receiving for the Xbox One.
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fr0sty  +   968d ago
Those "innovative" features are already on PS3. Xbox One was going to let you have a list of 10 family members who you could share games with, but only one of them at a time can actually be playing one of your games. PSN already allows you to share your entire download list with any one of your friends. The only difference is that there isn't a waiting list of 9 other people, you have to deactivate the one friend's game before you can lend to another.

This isn't some new feature, they just put a bunch of PR spin onto existing policies and tried to take credit for innovating where they were actually just copying.

Funny thing is, Ps4 doesn't have any of that DRM, nor does PS3 or Vita, and all 3 allow you to share your download lists with your friends.
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Bzone24  +   968d ago

Family Sharing - Gone
Installing game and never needing to put it in the Xbox One again - Gone

People got what they wanted though. Wish there was a way to have some middle ground in this, but there isn't any that I can think of.
greenlantern2814  +   968d ago
they could still keep those features for xbox live gold members.
Bzone24  +   968d ago
I guess they could for the game installs. Leave the 24 check in, but if you don't check in online, you have to put the game disc in and leave it in when playing the game until you check in online.

The family sharing is going to be gone. That was the trade off for the drm.
fr0sty  +   968d ago
Sony already does it with PS3. PSN lets you share your entire download list with anyone you let sign in using your account. The only difference is, you must deactivate that one friend's copy before you can lend it to another. There isn't a waiting list of 9 other friends who can access that game. However, both you and the friend can play your copy at the same time, from your own PSN accounts in most cases.

There are ways to do it.
greenlantern2814  +   968d ago
if this is true than great but Don Mattrick has been wrong/ misinformed several other times. but i hope it is true power to the consumer. again if this is true. which i hope it is now i might even pick one up. eventually. titanfall, dead rising 3 and even that game spark looked pretty good. i dont care about the tv crap, and dont want kinect but this will help them come back
greenlantern2814  +   968d ago
also wondering if this means they will have to push back the release date
FunkMacNasty  +   968d ago
Well this is a bit more tolerable!! I'm still going day 1 ps4, but at least now, I know that when the X1 sees it's first price drop, I may consider getting one (after all I would REALLY miss my Forza Motorsports games!!)
cee773  +   968d ago
I thought Microsoft wouldn't change no policy because of Sony such hypocrites

Pressure busts pipes lmao
ALLWRONG  +   968d ago
Today should be declared a gamers Holiday. Gamers from all around the world stood up and made their voices heard, and made a change.

Gamer Day 6/19/2013

Just because of these policies I ended up buying a Playstation for the first time since the PS2. Thanks for listening MS because now I can continue my gaming legacy on Xbox One and PS4.
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nachokingp  +   968d ago
Actually, it's a terrible day for gamers. A whole bunch of crybabies got their way for all the wrong reasons. A few outlets were sharing incorrect information about Xbox One, and the misinformation spread like wildfire. Now, because everyone pissed and moaned, we are ALL losing on probably the most innovative feature of Xbox One that NOBODY was talking about, Family Share is now a thing of the past. Xbox One WAS able to sell used games, as they announced. The 24 hour connection was a minor check in that could have been done over a very slow internet connection, even over a wifi hotspot from your smartphone. Now we'll be required to use our disks offline, where we weren't before. Now we won't be able to share our entire game library with up to 10 of our friends. All because people DON'T READ THE ACTUAL INFORMATION but believe what other people are mistakenly saying. ARGH! MS was actually trying to innovate, way to suck gamers.
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glopez  +   968d ago
Like the saying goes " if it ain't broke, don't fix it!" The way we play games has been the same way I've been doing it for 25 years. These first generation gamers make me sick to my stomach! Nothing about the xbone was innovative. Get over it kid.
YNWA96  +   968d ago
It is broke, thats why the market is full of sequels... Too risky for new IP when there is no return want it all but only willing to borrow it or buy it cheap. This is the day the industry lost.... Well done babies...
glopez  +   968d ago

How is a 70+ billion dollar industry broke? Think about that for a second. Want to know why there are to many sequels? No one can make a good game anymore. This generation of ADHD 15 y/o kids and below are to blame. Past generations had full games with great stories. If the graphics were good then that was a plus. Now its graphics and 60 fps. Complain to the pubs if they don't want to take risks. Hmmmm the masses spoke and Ms answered. Now guys like you are crying, and you call us babies. Lmao complain to Ms, maybe they'll back pedal again.
nachokingp  +   967d ago
Umm, you clearly don't have a clue. First of all, the system was broken from the developers' point of view. A system only works if all parties involved agree that it works, but the existing system only works for gamers, not for developers, because they lose sales dollars through the used games market. And how can you possibly say there were no innovations on the Xbox One? Persistent game library across any console by just logging into Xbox Live, Family Share allowing you to share your ENTIRE GAME LIBRARY with 10 people, diskless gaming, all of those are HUGE innovations that are now lost because of douche nozzles that didn't "get it".
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DARK WITNESS  +   968d ago
it's a great day for everyone who stood up and resisted all the crap.

It's shameful the way some people supported it. I would love to hear what they have to say now. Are they going to cry about how their family share is no longer going to work.
Aceman18  +   968d ago
so they b***hed out? its good to see the consumers voice heard LOUDLY. great day for gamers, and a great day for CONSUMERS.
shinrock  +   968d ago
Great day for gamers and Gamestop. Bad day for Dev and pubs. Now the casual can walk right on in and take out the AAA market. Too bad GameStop don't make games.
bganci  +   968d ago
This is amazing news....I can now Defend Purchasing a XboxOne Now....Before this it was extremely hard to see me purchasing the Xbox.
hkgamer  +   968d ago
This is actually bad news for me. I did like the direction MS going.

Don't care for used games and internet connection at my house is decent, so I would have prefered being able to install full games and share games with 9 other people.
hkgamer  +   968d ago
Sad day for me.
I actually like the DRM.
Install game onto Console.
Share games with family.

2 best features I wanted for any console
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solar  +   968d ago
welcome to the world of PC gamer's Xbox users. PC gamers like myself get beat up here as being "whiny", or told to "shut up" when we voice our opinion for something we strongly disagree with.

Xbox gamers voiced their opinions against MS and have turned the tide, and i condemn them for it. that is how you get things done as a consumer.

im proud as a gamer you stood up and got MS to change their stupid policies for a console. cheers and game on everyone.
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fatstarr  +   968d ago
*for xbox fans

but as a industry as a whole if this would have went through All companies would have pushed the boundaries on what could be charged for and milked out of the customers pockets
nukeitall  +   968d ago
Thanks gamers for crippling the Xbox One. I was looking forward to game sharing and all the new features.

If I wanted last-gen console with all the limitations of physical disc, I would have gotten PS4! You weren't happy with your console, you had to go f it up for other people too. Congratulations you win!

Thank you for f***ing it up for us others that was looking forward to genuinely new features. Game sharing would have been fantastic.

Now it is a gimped box!

I hope there is a small chance game sharing will happen again with digital downloads. I don't mind the 24-hour check-in on digital games.
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hkgamer  +   968d ago
Not sure if you trolling or being sarcastic, but I agree with you.

MS just took 2 of the only reasons I would have bought an Xbone. Now it's just an over priced weaker PS4 with big brother watching you 24/7.

Game sharing would have been an amazing feature and would have saved me so much money.
DARK WITNESS  +   968d ago
the people who were not happy with it were fellow xbox gamers and fans. not eveyone likes taking it in the backside like you
BEASTIE-E  +   967d ago
Well now that you are forced to use "last-gen console with all the limitations of phsyical disc" are you going to get the ps4?? I bet your answer is no.. that's how full of s**t YOU are.. PS4
nukeitall  +   967d ago
I really don't understand this mentality of "if you disagree with me, you are wrong".

Fact of the matter is that what happened was the best for gamers, i.e. there were options depending on what you preferred.

Instead, we now lost that option and revert back to stone age physical discs. I'm saddened by this and hope MS will re-introduce this sooner rather than later.
showtimefolks  +   968d ago
great news ms now please make another sku without kinect 2 for $399 please

so many people were saying gamers are complaining for no reason you see when ps4 is getting 3-1 pre orders it matters, you can call us the gaming community a lot of things but most of us stood together on some of these issued and guess what a multi billion dollar company had to change its policies long before console's release

good JOB ms

now please make another sku without kinect 2
Major_Glitch  +   968d ago
It is a great day for gamers, but I'm still not spending my money on it. The PS4 is still the better machine, has a better line of games (including a few mmos I'm looking forward to playing), and it's cheaper. But to each their own.
ajax17  +   968d ago
Great for xbox fans. I'm still buying a PS4 though. It's still cheaper and has incredible exclusives.
YNWA96  +   968d ago
Someday though, this might be considered the day the gaming industry was held back. Its the truth.... The inevitable was only postponed. Will be interesting to see how publishers like activision and ea really feel about this.... But I am happy, just wish the cry babies stop....
Veneno  +   967d ago
You only have Microsoft to blame. If they were so confident that what they were doing was the next big thing then they would have stood their ground.
_FantasmA_  +   968d ago
Great day for people who like being treated like objects and used and abused while being robbed blind. Real gamers know and have always known that M$ is evil. Down with Micro$oft!
Syntax-Error  +   968d ago
MS did exactly what Sony did
2 Years ago Sony was going to implement DRM in PS4. MS agreed and adopted the same philosophy. At the MS reveal in May after announcing it to the world, MS took a huge PR hit and community backlash. Sony saw this and immediately changed gears for their E3 announcement. It wasn't until the end when Sony announced that they wont have everything MS got hammered for did they get anyone excited. Before that, their E3 showing was mediocre. Now that MS is doing it, people feel duped....WHY? here's the link for Sony wanting DRM

I pre-ordered a PS4, but I think I will have to rethink my decision. I must admit that I like the looks of the X1 better and I was really looking forward to the voice commands and having my cable and game all in one. As for power, I actually think both systems games will look identical.
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Heavenly King  +   967d ago
A less powerful $100 more expensive console looks better than the PS4?

Syntax-Error  +   967d ago
The 360 was less powerful than the PS3 and what did you learn from that? The $100 difference comes from Kinect being added in. PS4 is priced just for the console itself. Kinect cannot be sold separately since it's not considered a peripheral any longer. It's part of the architecture of the console and is an integral part of the functionality. The PS Eye is not equivalent to Kinect so adding a 59.99 peripheral is pointless. There's a reason for everything
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kparks  +   968d ago
But wont all the PUBLISHERS who wanted the DRM there in the first place be pissed lmao.. Smh microsoft
kewlkat007  +   968d ago
Xbox go to Halo
Please insert game disc to play

Screw the
Veneno  +   967d ago
Get the digital version. Problem. Solved.
kewlkat007  +   967d ago
"Get the digital version. Problem. Solved.

If that how it will work, I have no problem with that. That is what I will do.

I don't really trade or sell. If my game library can be digitally stored for the life of the console then I can always play my games, if I want much later.
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Psn800  +   968d ago
I told you Ms us gamers have banter with each other but when we came together we are a force we stick together go ask Ea & there dead space franchise .
Walker  +   968d ago
Well done sony
otherZinc  +   967d ago
Almost a new ballgame!
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ATi_Elite  +   967d ago
Bravo Consolers you stood up and let your voice be heard and got something done.

Hats off to you guys and as a Exclusive PC Gamer I'm proud of you guys.

Good Job.
HyperBear  +   968d ago
Holy Cow!!!

It's Official Now.
HyperBear  +   968d ago

"Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.

For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.

Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.

You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.

So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:

1) An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games.
2) Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today"
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Prophet-Gamer  +   968d ago
Hell Yea!
TheLyonKing  +   968d ago
That took balls on Microsofts part. Pre orders will probably sky rocket.

Proud to be part of such a vocal community.
ginsunuva  +   968d ago
But still no reason to buy Xbox!
a_squirrel  +   968d ago
^... over the PS4
DARK WITNESS  +   968d ago
at least it's more even now...

I think if anything it's now more of a reason to own both.

I think this time round this gen my ps4 will be my primary console for gaming and if i do get a one it will just be for some first party exclusives.

They have done a lot of damage still and they are going to have to work on that.

still, it's a very positive thing for those of us who didn't support the bullshit and were vocal about it.

All the people who rolled over and were trying to justify it, well they look like idiots now. MS just made them look like fools. If ms were as sure of themselves as their blind sheep they would have stuck with it.
coolvibu93  +   968d ago
The games are a good reason to guy one...
solar  +   968d ago
maybe not to you (or me) but it gives gamer's a choice. that is what a consumer is being all about. please dont be so fanboyish mate, it's really immature :(
iRocket  +   968d ago
Now it gets interesting...
GrumpyOla  +   968d ago
It is interesting. I think MS believes the future is digital for the wrong reasons. More discs sold means more profit for bluray. I wonder if Sony get royalties for bluray and whether the amount is significant.
Jakens  +   967d ago
I really wanted a system for the rich that buy new games and don't rent. I wanted a system for the rich, the few, the non-scared. Even if said system charges $60+ for LIVE one day. I wanted a system for those with great paying, steady jobs, that have lots of paid vacations, with the best (but very expensive) steady internet connections that live in large cities away from all natural disasters (and places like "why would I live there?".

Not to mention, those with the system won't be doing illegal things at home with the Kinect on them. I wanted that XBOX. How great it could have been for me to know that people won't want to cheat and won't be pirating games, and clogging the multiplayer with trash and hate speech. It was going so good RIGHT THERE!!!

These owners of Xbox would be willing to be more honest in paying per person to watch any movies or to play anything on that Xbox. These few proud GAMER owners won't be leaving their home regions with that box without some strict limits.

These owners sadly do risk buying a second Kinect if the first one breaks (for any reason) Again, the rich, the few, and the non-scared. Boy that would have kept up the 200 comments threads for days here man. I kid...I kid...or do I? You decide.

This much is true...Damn I will miss the good points that Xbox had going for it...
Jakens  +   967d ago
Not nearly as interesting as it could have been.
Loki86  +   968d ago
Woo hooooooooo! Consumers win, can't wait to see Mattrick explain this..
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Livecustoms  +   968d ago
Now dont make Kinect Mandatory and ill cancel my ps4 pre-order ! Make an 360 fan stay with you !
NoobJobz  +   968d ago
It won't make me cancel my PS4 but it will make me not cancel my One. Now I can have both consoles.
NameRemoved0017  +   968d ago
PS4 is still a better option even if they fixed everything the hardware is still worse.
NoobJobz  +   968d ago

Which is why I'm getting both. I'm not restricting myself to one. PS4, One, and PC.

Btw I agree it is a better option though. But I want both,
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Mikelarry  +   968d ago | Well said
lol this is a victory for all gamers who stood up against ms and their draconian ways. this proves that we will not be bullied or stand for BS.
SKullDugger  +   968d ago
Yes it is well said. Bubble vote for you.
Mikelarry  +   968d ago
thanks for the bubble
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MariaHelFutura  +   968d ago
This is great. Thank you to all gamers who didn't support this nonsense.
solar  +   968d ago
now if we could get gamer's to stop buying DLC at a premium price that isn't worth it i'd be a very very happy gamer :)
ShowGun901  +   968d ago
Im glad they switched this... But I'm still not ready to trust them yet lol
imXify  +   968d ago
I knew they won't last long with this and will change their ideas.
Stryfeno2  +   968d ago
Pre ordering NOW!!!!!!!
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GraveLord  +   968d ago
Really? You do know they can implement the DRM whenever they want right? They have the right to change their policies when and if they see fit.
GCO Gamer  +   968d ago
But, we'll be ready for it when it happens.
DVAcme  +   968d ago
Are you guys mental? Even if they didn't succeed, they ATTEMPTED to play you all for chumps! Don't support them just because they backed out! They only did because they were gonna fail, not because they care about consumers!

The PS4 is still better priced, more powerful and PS+ is a much better value than XBox Live. Are YOU GUYS gonna go back on your word just like Microsoft did?
MariaHelFutura  +   968d ago
I'm still not buying it. But this is getting better for the people who will.
Silly gameAr  +   968d ago
Don't worry, I'm still not buying. I have zero respect for MS and their ways. Not knocking anyone that wants an X1 though. It's your money and your choice.
Salooh  +   968d ago
And it still have the worst restriction which is kinect.
insomnium2  +   968d ago
Still having to make an initial setup online is bad. Online is still required initially.

It's a good day for gamers and consumers but MS did this ONLY because they had to. Same as extending the warranty of x360. There is no thanking MS for this.

Only thing this does is postpone things from MS's pov. They want to strap you down and suck your life out like a friggen demon lol. People wasn't ready for that yet. Online payments is now the norm so that's one step but you need to take smaller steps MS before you can do the things you ultimately want to do to people.
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Drekken  +   968d ago
They backpedaled once... They want people to buy their console. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to implement this down the road again once they have a decent install base.

Plus - I don't see any new details yet.
jmc8888  +   968d ago

But after all this, it's going to be very hard for them to do it.
extermin8or  +   968d ago
I expect they will, but for the moment this is great for people buying an xb1-personally I wont be for the exact same reasons listed above.
Mikelarry  +   968d ago
my ps4 is still preordered would not be changing this. i am only excited because it means as a community if bs comes our way some of us are still willing to call out the bs and stop the sheeps who will blindly follow on a whim to ruin gaming for everyone else
Welcome2Die  +   968d ago
It wasnt that M$ listened to the fans or anything, they just saw that everyone wasnt gonna buy their crappy console and instead went with Sony.
They knew they f*cked up is all and saw their money vanish.

Still buying a PS4 first, if the Xbone is any good I MAY buy it at a later time.

Sony FTW, because they never had that BS to begin with!
Philoctetes  +   968d ago
I wasn't buying an Xbox One anyway. But it's still good to see this crap going away. Competition is good for gamers, so even though I have no interest in the Xbox, it's good that Microsoft is staying in the game.
Mr_Nuts  +   968d ago
So true

I'm not supporting them, they will try and do this again in the future and mandatory Kinect is still an issue. However if they do this I might get it in the far, far future once the price has went down and Halo 5 comes out for example

We need to keep going, the fight is not over yet
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whoyouwit04  +   968d ago
you weren't going to support them regardless of what they had to offer so your opinion doesn't matter.
Salooh  +   968d ago

I bought 2 360's . And i'm still not interested on buying the ONE . Why ?. Because even if they removed everything we hate in the first announcement they still have a bad history of abandon the gamers. No exclusive , RROD , Paying for online with no extra value ( Which i hate even though ps+ is great ) . You still pay for battery to play -.- ...etc
Caffo01  +   968d ago
and yours doesn't matter because you were going to buy it anyway.
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Rusty515  +   968d ago
You're wrong. All company's care about consumers. Because consumers=money. Same for Sony. The more positive feedback you get, the more sales you have. Customer satisfaction is key. And that's how Sony won us over. I don't care that Microsoft was going to do this, but honestly, If it wouldn't get them any backlash, Sony wouldn't think twice about doing used game restrictions and drm. Luckily they both didn't and now we have two consoles to look foward to. I'm a Sony guy. Hell, I'm even buying the ps4 before I buy an Xbone. But give props when props should be given. You Sony fanboys always complain even if Microsoft does something right. Be happy that this didn't happen and quit bitching.
NateCole  +   968d ago
Well i didnt say i will buy it. For me it is great for gamers and gaming in general. I honestly dont want MS out of the console race. We need competition that benefits gamers. My biggest worry with MS is the vision they were trying to sell that would have a big negative impact on many gamers. So this backpeddlibg is great news.
GrumpyOla  +   968d ago
The keyword here is vision. How would a company's change in their vision affect their strategy which they have been working on since the inception of the xbox one?
It'll be very interesting to see how all this will play out. Maybe in the near future we will even read about it in business books.
ExPresident  +   968d ago

Exactly, and I hope people still recognize this. This isn't about the XBox ONE or its hardware specs, and whether it has good games or not. This is all about the company behind the XBox One and what they attempted once, and what was clearly their goal.

Execs at Microsoft may have backed up this time, which is good for gamers and consumers, but it doesn't change the fact that these guys attempted this and will surely attempt it again after they regroup and look for a better way to undermine your consumer rights.

A predator doesn't simply give up and starve, a predator regroups, learns a new tactic, and moves in again for the kill.
nypifisel  +   968d ago
I actually got to agree with this. It is of course great that Microsoft removed (most) of these ridiculous anti-consumer "features" but don't forget they did it solely for money. I wouldn't be surprised if they introduced it in smaller bits through the life of the X1. Microsoft clearly doesn't view the consumer with any ounce of respect and only backtracked due to them realizing they would loose money. Just look at all the interviews, and statements and what not - They despise you for not liking what they've decided for you.

My thoughts. Great that they did remove it but they've already shown their true face honestly.
gano  +   968d ago
Not only that, whatever they take out now won't mean they can't add later.
They were disrepectful the first time.
wenaldy  +   968d ago
fool me once...
DVAcme  +   968d ago
Lemme put it in a very easy way to understand for everyone: you don't get off scot-free from attempted robbery or attempted murder, you get punished by the law severely anyway. Why would we then reward Microsoft with our hard-earned money when they tried to take it away by force already? That'd be like giving the attempted robber the loot just because he failed and said he was sorry!
NioRide  +   968d ago
My money is still going to the ps4, But I'm just happy that the industry now knows it can't step past the user base so easily.
Caffo01  +   968d ago
i completely agree!
solar  +   968d ago
I honestly believe that MS wanted to turn the platform into some iteration of Steam. but the PC platform and the console platform are two totally different animals with two totally different fan bases. what works on PC will not work with consoles.

MS took the criticism, and changed their policies because of that, and you have to commend them (even though i will never own an Xbox) to taking consumer input and changing it to make the consumer happy.

Sony extremist or not, this is great for gamers. hopefully you can see past that.
Hayabusa 117  +   968d ago
and why do you think Sony decided not to go for used games restrictions in the PS4? Because they didn't want to fail either, and they knew winning over the customers is the best way not to fail.

At the end of the day, I didn't want to support Microsoft because of the restrictions on sharing and zero ownership of games. Now I CAN support them because they ARE putting customers first (even if they're only doing it for money, which is no different from Sony), so I'm not backing on my word, I'm fulfilling it.

HOWEVER, I cannot deny that the PS4 is simply better value right now. Push come to shove, Microsoft still have an EXTREMELY strong competitor they need to deal with.
Veneno  +   967d ago
Yeah man, I would really like to say with confidence that I may purchase an Xbone sometime down the line, but with it's much higher price and inferior hardware compared to Ps4, I can't be sure of that. Man, it just goes to show how in many ways, not just the DRM stuff, how much the PS4 is poised to be the dominant console this generation.
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coolvibu93  +   968d ago
''A wise man changes his mind, a fool never.''

MS changed their mind. And so will I if their games appeal to me, because I am a gamer. I just want to play great games. I was pissed about DRM (like most around here), and complained. I got what I wanted. I'm also getting a PS4.

Also, they backed up because they were going to fail BECAUSE they were going to lose the customers they care about. Also, DRM is the future.
GraveLord  +   968d ago

Thank for saying this. Some people just don't know how to think for themselves. Microsoft will attempt something like this in the future. They're not done milking their fanbse. I fully expect an increase in price for XBL Gold or something so they can make up for this.
kennyg3739  +   968d ago
Good Job Microsoft
coolvibu93  +   968d ago
Wow even after this there are still so many disagrees...
Lavalamp  +   968d ago | Funny
Xbox One Eighty
Dread  +   968d ago

good one
generalthadeape  +   968d ago
Funny bubble for Lavalamp!!
Roccetarius  +   968d ago
I still see no reason to get one. Microsoft will be doing this again, just wait.
AO1JMM  +   968d ago
Xbox One Eighty confirmed

NateCole  +   968d ago
See what i told you xbox fans. Gamers rules. This is a great day indeed. Game on.
mushroomwig  +   968d ago
...b..b..but the power of the cloud!
whoyouwit04  +   968d ago
this doesn't mean they wont use the cloud this only means now it's a option.
a_squirrel  +   968d ago
I don't know where either of you are getting your information.
Cherchez La Ghost  +   968d ago
Power to the gaming community!!!
MrSwankSinatra  +   968d ago
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gazgriff2k12  +   968d ago
I dont see how anything has changed?
dark_101  +   968d ago
Unicron  +   968d ago
Victory for gamers everywhere.
Linwelin  +   968d ago
Who is to say they wont change back again, once everyone has bought one :D gonna stick to PC/PS4
vitullo31  +   968d ago
yeah im not buying into their garbage ps4 and pc sounds good to me
AyKKon  +   968d ago
Xbox 180. i was going to get One anyway but it seems now its more worth it even if I didnt care too much for always online and such.
Godmars290  +   968d ago
To all you loyalist who were going to buy it anyway:

You're Welcome.

If this is true.

Still, the online question is going to continue to haunt them since if this rumor is true owners will *STILL* need an internet connection. Even if only once at startup.
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Bellcross  +   968d ago
Dannehkins  +   968d ago
It's nice to see Microsoft listening to consumers, but sadly it doesn't shake away the fact that they attempted to implement DRM into games.

I can't help but feel that without Sony's stance and possibly Nintendo's on DRM, Microsoft would of jammed it down your throat; but because there was an alternative and they could see people were leaning towards it, they back paddled.

It's a small step in the right direction, but it still sucks that they even attempted it. And what is the deal with the internet check in business? It doesn't look as though they solved anything.
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Godmars290  +   968d ago
Its hard not to listen when the whole of the gaming community is pounding on your door and screaming for your head.

And yes, they'll try it again. For now however we'll have to deal with them acting like it was *THEIR* idea.
Dannehkins  +   968d ago
Very true.

It's quite amusing to see them stating it was from feedback from the Xbox community that they're doing this. Typical PR of course, but all this statement translates into for everyone in the know is that they are reacting to a large proportion of gamers be them PlayStation, Xbox, Nintendo etc.
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DigitalRaptor  +   968d ago | Well said
I don't know why we're all thanking Microsoft. This is ALL on the consumer, and particularly the vocal PlayStation fans. MS did this to counter all the negativity that had affected their brand and good will formed through their gaming platforms over previous generations, something that would surely have affected their success. They were adamant to do this up until they could see it was impacting their potential for success, not because they give two hoots about the consumer.

It absolutely FANTASTIC news for gamers, but they still stooped to those lows, were incredibly arrogant and tried to justify why DRM was a good thing for the consumers. Like I've said over the past few weeks and days after E3, I won't be supporting a company that tried to stranglehold the industry and our consumer rights with these measures.

And the shills and apologists, my god, you guys were the worst. Trying to spin DRM and anti-consumer practices into positives and somehow act like Sony is the one in the wrong as gaming company.

Oh, and Kinect is still a requirement, no?

Sorry if anyone thinks this changes anything other than the status quo. MS are still the same MS. I'm still getting a PS4 and a Wii U, but at least this gives me more opportunity to come round to their platform and perhaps accept any good will they might be offering over time, but there's simply no amount of trust or respect I can fathom for them.
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nypifisel  +   968d ago
Very good! I agree - any apologist should take a serious look at themselves. +bubble for you.

I'm never touching the Xbox One - They've shown their face, now they're just hiding it when we didn't like what we saw, still the same corporation in there.
Caffo01  +   968d ago
best comments here. +bubbles for both.
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Hayabusa 117  +   968d ago
I honestly don't know if you can pin most of the credit on the Sony fans. There seemed to be quite a lot of Xbox fans that were pissed of about the DRM policies and were very vocal about it (maybe not on N4G, but on other websites). It was the Xbox fans that defected to Sony that caused PS4 pre-orders to sky-rocket, remember that.

Yes, they tried to justify it but they're not right now. And I highly doubt Microsoft will back track AGAIN and add DRM onto the Xbox One at some point after it's release, and if I'm honest, I was always a little worried that even Sony would end up following the DRM path at some point as well (maybe with the PS5). Remember how Sony used to allow you to install PSN games in up to 5 consoles then lowered it down to just 2?

Anyway, hopefully this means both companies will steer clear of DRM in the near and far future.
Dannehkins  +   968d ago
Great point Raptor.

I am also surprised at how many people are now willing to forgive and forget about this whole issue as well.

Does it not occur to them that Microsoft have just BS through months worth of information they provided you? They said the power of the Xbox One was routed in the cloud, but now they are saying you can play your games offline. They said DRM was the future, but now they have removed DRM.

Hell this recent announcement has even meant removal of some announced features and the console hasn't even been released yet!

How could you possibly trust a company like this?
Thomper  +   968d ago
Stop your bleating. They've done what people wanted, now lets get on with the gaming....
GrumpyOla  +   967d ago
People have selective memories and don't seem to learn from past mistakes. My main concern with any new xbox would be hardware reliabilty. From my personal experience especially after 2 360 PRODed (the second supposedly a build that was PROD resistant) that hardware reliability is the first thing to look for when considering buying a new console, which would be difficult since most hardware problems appeared a year and a half down the line. People seem to have forgotten about that and now are concered with DRM issues. Well, good luck to them.
DarthJay  +   968d ago
Thanks Playstation fans!!
Dread  +   968d ago
not just playstation fans. .... most gamers and ms fans also were up in arms
This is a victory for all gamers and we all deserve credit for making a change.
BEASTIE-E  +   967d ago
Agreed because as a GAMER, REGARDLESS of brand, if MS wouldve gone through with this without going out of business, more than likely sony wouldve tried to implement it on the ps4 and I have NOOOO DOUBT that the ps4 is already capable, but with the backlash that MS got from this no gamer has to worry bout restricted DRM... I myself see nothing wrong with DRM as long as it doesn't come with restrictions like right now the ps3 has DRM or disc.. I personally prefer disc... lol I prefer a set of regular keys over push start cars.. call me old school... ps4
BLKxSEPTEMBER  +   968d ago
agreed...if it was not for all the PS fans this would not of happened. the PS fan base has bashed MS to holy hell and im glad they did it. it may seem like im being a smart ass but im not. hopefully this is all true so us xbox fans can start talking shit about the psn charging for online play lol i kid i kid!!!
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