The man who set up and ran the European Xbox business for Microsoft, Sandy Duncan, believes that consoles as we know them today will "die out" in the next 5 to 10 years.
....SNAP!!! But in all honesty, I think consoles will get more and more like PC's in terms of being much more useful than just for playing games, but I don't think they will ever "die out".
which is there will be no console for MS after 360, what non sense is he bubbling about?? consoles r here to stay for many many years, of course by time they will change and improve and will include more features which is normal but to say they will die is BS, if he thinks like this then he should just apply it to his company's console!! these MS PR's and exec(including bill gates) r always keeping dreaming about the future is coming after 24 hours!! they should wake up. DLC will never replace physical format. when ever they want to market something which sony didnt start yet, they always say "this is the day after the next 24h future,and for now we have the old tech" while sony they say "this is the present and the future). so MS either gives u old tech or something very new that no one is ready for and not even guaranteed.
Hey hey hey! Someone else saying what I have been saying for years! Consoles are trying to mimic PCs (download, internet browsing, demos, friends lists, VoIP..) There will still be "consoles" just not what we see today. They will just be subsidized, proprietary, PC's that let devs build for one specific system or another. But the day will come when all this nonsense about "PC gaming is dead" bullshit will come back and smack them in the face. YOUR console is becoming a PC!! lol, I love the irony in that. But the best part is? ALL GAMERS WILL BENEFIT from it! So it doesn't matter whether you like one system or another. We, in the end, will be better for it just as gamers, not as fanboys.
^^ Killer, you know NOTHING about IT trends if you think digital content (or download content as you put it) will not replace physical. IT ALREADY IS!! That is why everyone is saying Blu-Ray is over before it got started. Not because Blu-Ray will not flourish for a while, just that direct to drive content, or web-accessed content, and virtualization of a PC is already taking hold. It is only a matter of time before actual physical media ceases to exist unless you back it up yourself on your own media.
console r not simply trying to copy cat of pc's their bring simplicity and more features that r only related to gaming that PC's cant provide, the biggest example that game sales on consoles are much higher than PC. about physical media will cease to exist is non sense!! do u think that all countries in the world is like USA?? well, to inform u there is countries that still uses dial-up internet speed and it will take them 10-20 years to reach the current speed in the USA!! yes technology is improving fast but not all the world r improving as fast u know???!!! beside people will never stop going to video stores to shop for their favorite movies or collection of movies, that u cant be sure to cease from existing even if the HD movie can be downloaded in 5 mins!! so i will say to u, U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PEOPLE HABITS, if u think they will cease from buying physical media format movies, especially in the rest of the world!!
sorry you're wrong, digital downloads will NOT REPLACE physical media any time soon. it will be an OPTION only. the bandwidth constraints of the internet architecture and the size of HD content is not allowing it to be mass adopted right now. In Europe most people pay by the amount of bandwidth they use on their ISP's. and even AOL is trying to adopt this trend as well in the US. Most of the world is not connected broadband and until it is downloaded content will stay an OPTION. Physical media will most likely never be replaced because people prefer to have physical copies. People that buy movies and games are collectors. MP3's are more for leisure that you can take around in a compact device. Not HD movies or games.
Who is everybody? From what I can tell the majority thinks blu-ray has at least 3-4 years(maybe more) before DD takes over. And for those of us to don't think playing online is the end all be all of gaming, the PC console convergence sucks.
of a console over a PC is a stable platform for a period of time for developers to explore and perfect. If these future consoles become more like PCs then fine as long as it removes the need to update every 3 weeks to be able to run the latest game. To me this is why consoles are so successful. With technology only changing faster are you going to want to be constantly updating to play the next great hit? I know i can't afford to.
Laptop's are getting more and more popular in the coming years and because of that the desktop PC's die completely. Consoles will be like home entertime systems with games, bluray, intenet, downloads and they are connected to your laptop all the time. Still all the work (writing, internet etc) you do with your laptop but it's not going to be for gaming. So basicly PC gaming will be dead! The only gaming there is, is with consoles witch are more like PC but not quite (no office, word etc and NO UPGRADING) ps. I haven't used my desktop for 2 years
People will always want a tangible back up so discs will remain. They may 10 years or so down the road become a secondary medium to DD though.
We already have a console that does more than the 360 and the ps3 it is call a "PC". Consoles even have patches now for games, and I thought that was only for PC geeks. Consoles are becoming a hassle, so you might as well build a decent PC. I have an AMD Phenom 9600, 3 gigs of 800mhz ram, a 8800gt, tv-tuner card, and 22 inch samsung display. It only cost me 1,200 american and I can play crysis and UT3 with way better visual than the ps3 or 360 can provide.
yep. me too! :)
the eyes of an eagle. DREAM ON
man i just want to the ps3 to die out with out its fanboys following it that would be the greatest day in gaming also it is coming so dont worry .i hate every thing about the ps3 expecially the crap games i bought it and returned the ps3 next days as warhawk/resistance ,.heavensword were to casual and plain for mne to play them no depth in ps3 games
wasn't there news that an all software tech world would not be possible with the limits of current bandwidth?and what happens when the system goes down,you sened it to the repair center? DREAM ON
and Fidel Castro's going to be the new Pope...
meant to say Microsoft's gaming department only...
most of them have been complete BS, like for example the 'why JRPG's suck' article for one. Jeez is it a slow week for news?
i had to approve.a shame it must be said. but that's a high rankingh executive.his views are supposedly very interesting....
Damn you Harry! :P This guy's opinion does matter, but not much. I also don't think he is being very realistic about the time frame. I could see it being an option much further down the road (especially for DD of movies), but if someone tried telling me that an electronics company (like Sony) has no interest in creating another physical media (like Blu-ray) to rule the world and reap the monetary rewards, then I'd say they're a fool. There is a lot of money/R&D that goes into a console, but there is a lot of tech that comes from that as well that aids the company in other ways. For example: the cell. Sony (among others) are going to use that technology in a number of devices beyond the PS3 and probably make a lot of money for something designed (in-part) for a gaming console. The video game market is only going to continue to grow as well. As it is now, all three consoles are doing great in both hardware and software. Who would've thought that just five years ago? Xbox was trying to break in and Nintendo seemed to be falling apart. There are so many "gamers" now (and growing) that it's feasible that a future market could support three consoles and some of the things that guy suggested. Physical media isn't going anywhere. Sure DD is already here, but it's not really stopping sales of video games or movies. Music just doesn't count since CDs still sell and buying a song or two is completely different than d/l'ing a movie or game. Broadband is just not there for most of NA, let alone the rest of the gaming world. Satellite (the predominant, cable almost doesn't exist, in Europe) isn't capable of doing "on-demand" and cable offers very little at this point in time. BD is here to stay for awhile, not 3 or 4 years. I mean, more like the next 8-10 years if they continue to expand the capacity. One example of why games won't go completely DD for a long while: MGS4. Kojima has stated that a 50gb disc wasn't enough for him to release the game the way he envisioned. 50gbs... Can you imagine being forced to d/l something just half that size to play on your system? Not to mention some consoles don't have h/d's that could hold very many games that size. Thanks to whomever took the time to read this, I know I can get on tangent...
good points made. perfectly logical.the sign of a wise individual: explaining unknown things in known ways.well done. may you prosper and the lights shine on your comments,i can get very off-topic with my comments,i know.
The man who set up and ran the European Xbox business for Microsoft, Sandy Duncan, believes that the "XBOX" as we know it today will “die out” in "Europe" in the next 5 to 10 years. Will only stay alive in the Americas Dead in Japan :)
xBox 360 Consoles to “die out” in the next 1 to 2 years :D (Maybe a bit less time) :D
don't you know, that they are so constructed, to die just after the 3year RROD warranty expires? :)
What kind of idiot? Consoles dying? The Console Market is thriving. I'm not gonna find JRPGs and Action games on PC. Besides, People Love consoles too much .
There are actually a lot of action games on the PC...
I'm talking about General console oriented games, The kind you don't find on PC. I.E. God of War
Speak for yourself and the company you work for. ;)
Bam! Got em.
high end pcs cost too damn much >_<
that might just be the dumbest thing i have ever heard and when you hear it from a MS guy you really need to start thinking if buying a 360 is even worth it! wow just wow
and do you think MS is coming with a new system now! If this is how they look at gaming i want nothing to do with them i wont be buying 360 anytime soon! ouch to all the MS backers
Lol they were dead until Nintendo came back and saved their asses.
MS is coming with a new system for sure n kill the 360. Just like they did to original xbox because of current 360 hardware design problem.I heard they got stock pile of red ring machine in factory versus retail.....every now n then the machine will breakdown n microsoft will not repair everyone of it.....if this 3rod continue why not introduce a more powerful machine with no hardware design problem
Funny.... 5 - 10 years... Sony's 10 year plan...
xbox 360 is dead already in japan.. in europe it's barely breathin' ... only in america it's alive? by the end of 2008 it'll be dead.. f dude... i don't even know why people got 1 in the first place.. graphics suck... worst controller ever... have to pay to play online.. exclusives suck... and the worst of all...IT'S MICROSOFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it was the first horse in the next gen race. It has some kick A$$ games I would not mind playing on a console Gears, Bioshock, C&C, couple others. The graphics are not terrible, and i am a ps3 owner.
What kind of article is this? Crap written all over it.
So I can wipe my butt with these ancient discs(because I have no console to play on?), just like I wiped my butt with those ancient books because I read Harry Potter on the internet after I downloaded it from Xbox Live, one eBook purchased it said in my cart it did....but because we don't need phyiscal media, we don't need pyhiscal food so I just have a sonic poo. I love you Mary Jane.
the same could have been said 5-10 years ago too. Consoles AS WE KNOW THEM will die out, but taking their place will be something more advanced.
wow.... flash back to 1999.... didnt we already have this argument 9 years ago???? oh well .....
how many times have we heard this b4..? either way im guessing dats why ppl..are already looking forward to the PS4...xbox 720...and Wii 2..... Consoles are here to stay...the gaming industry is rivaling the movie industry...I just can't see it dying in 10 yrs.....or ever .. Home Consoles FTW....
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He knows what Microsoft is up to thats why because there efforts alone are enough to destroy gaming industry and make everyone disgusted. However with the support and success for ps3 they aren't going to take the industry down so easily. I look forward to having ps4 with 100gig disks i can own and the cell processor 2.
We better have something better then consoles. I need some VR gear! Imagine GOW, Vegas, etc. That would be sweet.
........... has a bone in the middle of his brain
You mean the brain bone? Yeah, it's important to absorb some of the impact from when you bang your head on things. Otherwise you might get stupid.
M$ has more kooks then SONY! Sorry Krazy Ken, time to pass on that crown now
What, we have PC's dying now and next consoles? What's to go to? /sarcasm
From what's going on inside this guys brain Microsoft will own the consoles and store them for us and we'll rent them over our internet. That's why these guys get paid millions of dollars and you and I are stuck working at the grocery store.
Guys if you read the article it makes sense. What he is saying is that consoles will essentially evolve into open source PC's.
what is so lucrative about a one source machine....too much money to be lost on exclusives with just one box.....don't get me wrong I would love not having to keep up with the jonses and play all the great games on one console.... but I think we're getting ahead of ourselves.
when the article is pretty much just an ad for his company.....the article is a little biased.
Virtual Reality, Wooooo Hoooooo............
And stop selling consoles, I see Sony doing the same too. The reason being that it'll be a lot easier to get people on board of a service instead of a new Toy altogether. I see TVs being able to become hooked up to the net and you'll be able to play games through there. You won't need a console or an expensive GPU or something like that. If the PSP can play a PS3 game with PS3 graphics through remote play, then I don't doubt we will be able to play with PS5 graphics on our TVs through remote play, and every year you'll be able to see graphical updates on games. Generational transitions will not be as clear as they are now. Gaming will be cheaper for gamers as we won't need to buy consoles, and cheaper for developers as they will be able to control what platform they develop on, i.e. their own platform, and they could still make it compatible with whatever services Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo or whoever else offer such as LIVE, Home or Miis.
that will most likely be the case eventually...but definitely not in 5 to 10 years...
Yep. In 2013, a joint venture spearheaded by the U.S. military & EA Games, Microsoft, Sony, & Nintendo, will all start installing chips in our heads at birth. <end sarcarsm> Consoles will never die, but they will most likely evolve into a pc-like multimedia gaming device. Wait a minute,... they all ready have... =)
"... replaced by the consoles we're expecting tomorrow.."
Well I agree about the part that "there’s hardly any technology difference between some hard disc video recorders and an Xbox 360". Those are the words of someone with intimate knowledge of their product. But any other expertise he has ends there.
Sorry but, if anything is going to fall in the next few years it will be PC gaming. With the cost of a high-end PC rising every few months and new components coming out more often and to that that consoles are getting closer in graphics and are a lot less money. Yes the way consoles are heading now is a more multi-media direction, but I cannot see them disappearing any time soon.
I agree with you on that. bubbles for you!
I disagree. PC components are getting cheaper and are advancing where consoles have the same technology until new generation of consoles emerge every few years.
I really want to be a smart ass, but I will put down the armor and axe for a minute and say that I truly believe that MS, Sony and Nintendo and their consoles will all be around for many, many years. MS being the newcomer, is going nowhere because they have the money to do what they want to do for as long as they want to do it. Sony and Nintendo and the pioneers of the console. I see the opposite of the article happening- PC users will migrate to the console and in droves. I used to be a huge PC gamer and got a 360. Since then, there's been no looking back.
Anyone tell this genius if Atari's collaspe didn't kill off console gaming - nothing will. Maybe he sees a growing, 9 billion dollar industry and thinks of it as a stagnant enterprise. Who knows? Maybe, just maybe he should concentrate on milking all those soccer moms that might buy his cheesy cell phone games and leave the predictions to Ms. Cleo.
But I hope it isn't so. I like my console gaming, but only time will tell...
Consoles are getting to the point where they are indeed becoming more like PCs. The entire PC industry to some degree is losing ground. I myself love the fact that I rarely use my PC now as I can do most of my web browsing and media related entertaining through my PS3. How many gamers chose a PS3 or Xbox over a new video card? I am sick and tired of the hassle of Microsoft's laughable operating systems with all the instability, viruses, spam, maintenance, performance issues, constant updates, security, and I could go on! It is so great to be able to turn on a machine, surf, watch movie, or play games without a big hassle. I feel there is a chance (although small) that Microsoft may be in danger with this growing trend in console/media centers. I would ideally like to see another operating system on PC or even console be in direct competition with Microsoft based Operating Systems. This would force Microsoft to get their sh!t together and cater to the customer for a change. Microsoft dictates what we should use and the consumer is left with little choice and lack of quality. In my humble opinion, Microsoft is in a venerable position right now with the flop called Vista and the rise called console based media centers. Sony doesn't really have anything to lose by pushing the PS3 operating system to its limits in terms of what it can do. I would like to see the PS3 expand its capabilities OR see Linux optimized so it can compete with PCs. I for one am not too far away from turfing my PC out the window (no pun intended).
Sandy Duncan?!... for real? Maybe she can team up with Scoob and the gang to find some clues. (yeah durr I know not THE Sandy Duncan for chrissakes)