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Submitted by GamerEuphoria 460d ago | opinion piece

The Last Of Us: Not Making a Big Deal Over Sexuality

Sean Halliday of Gamer Euphoria writes:

''The Last Of Us is currently sweeping up high praise from nearly every corner of the industry; critics love it, players adore it, and it’s proven to be a huge success. However, one part of the game that has gone somewhat unnoticed is how The Last Of Us dips its toes into something of a taboo topic, even in the modern day state of video games. That taboo topic is one of homosexuality. It’s so subtle and underplayed that the chances are most did not even notice it, and that commands respect to Naughty Dog and their writing team.'' (Naughty Dog, PS3, The Last Of Us)

Update * Very very minor spoiler, so minor it does not even effecting the plot or outcome of the game, those of a sensitive nature have been warned*

jagstatboy  +   460d ago
umm, there are spoilers in this article, and no warning given. Thanks, I haven't played the game yet.
GamerEuphoria  +   460d ago
Got approved before we could add * Contains a tiny tiny spoiler that effects the game in little no way in the grand scheme of things*

But honestly, it's not really all that much of a spoiler given it's a brief section that plays little into the plot
jagstatboy  +   460d ago
Agree it is a minor spoiler, but like Dr. Seuss said, a spoiler's a spoiler no matter how small (or something like that) LOL.
Heisenburger  +   460d ago
It's one thing to make an honest mistake(neglecting to put "spoilers" for a game that has only been out for five days), that is totally forgivable as we all make mistakes.

But it's an entirely different thing to have an attitude about it.

Your reply to this person and the update to the article are completely absent of any sympathy.

You are really smug about it, which is completely ridiculous given that you are in the wrong. You shouldn't be posting on this site(or any site for that matter) if you can't handle the tiny responsibilities that come along with it.

I suggest that you work on your social skills if you can't realize errors you have made towards others.

Now apologize to him.

Edit: typographical errors
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Xof  +   460d ago
@Heisenburger:

You're imagining things. Jagstatboy isn't having an "attitude" nor is he being "smug." But those adjectives do describe -your- post.
GamerEuphoria  +   460d ago
@heisen

Not Smug at all, oddly you seem the one lacking social skills given your out burst
Xof  +   460d ago
Heisenburger has sent me... three private messages, composed almost entirely of profanity-riddled personal insults.

The one point he did make was that his comment was directed at GamerEuphoria, which strikes me as oddd, considering his/her post seems even more innocuous to me than jagstatboy's.

But beyond that... wow. Total and complete prepubescent, moronic (and homophobic) ravings.
kparks  +   459d ago
Wow dont waste ur time reading the article everyone already knew joel was a homo and ellie a hardcore lesbian woops spoilers! Sike JK lol.. Game is awesome tho if u haven't got it yet pick it up!
OpenGL  +   460d ago
Absolutely phenomenal game, can't wait to play Naughty Dog's next release.

I've heard some people complain about the fact that rape isn't mentioned more in the game but can you imagine the outcry there would be?
GamerEuphoria  +   460d ago
Rape is implied (at least that's what i got from it) when over hearing a group of hunters talking. A lot of The Last Of Us is down to a personal interpretation, at least when it comes to background stuff.
Eldyraen  +   460d ago
Its could also be interpreted from a wall message during that or the next level over. I guess it "could" be seen from a positive perspective as well but given the setting and everything seen up to and after that point I naturally saw it in a darker light.

ND has done a great job thus far allowing for people to "see" the world that they created and a lot of it is optional and observation based.
OpenGL  +   460d ago
Well there's one part later in the game where it's directly mentioned but some people think it should be even more prevalent. I'm sure the fear of rape would be a very real thing for women in children in a post-apocalyptic world, but it's a video game, Naughty Dog is already pushing the envelope with this game as it is. If something as taboo as sexuality and rape in video games was included god knows the media shitstorm there would be.
04soldier  +   460d ago
Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler
I believe they did show an attempted rape in the game and had a very very subtle way of talking about it right afterwards

The scene Im referring to is where David is trying to kill Ellie and even though he has the upper hand he gets on top of her and strangles her..

Ellie confides in Joel right after about it and it was cutoff very subtly.

This is why this game is so awesome. because it really conveys the darkness that lies beneath that of most men and women when the system of a civil society were to be destroyed by an great unstoppable force.

GOTY hands down
Heisenburger  +   460d ago
Yeah I liked that part. Just an extra little layer that was completely unnecessary. That's part of their magic.

And the NOT so subtle (spoilers????)would be Ellie with that magazine.... *shudders*

When I saw that she had it I said "Godd**n it Ellie" aloud. I had to hold back my laughter at myself for getting as uncomfortable as I did.

The Last of Us is such a good game.

Edit: minor typographical error
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Eldyraen  +   460d ago
I actually think Bill is a pretty cool character. He sort of helps Ellie come out of her shell a bit as well and there is a sort of love/hate relationship with them at times.

He's clearly quite gruff but the letter from his partner is in a way a last "love" letter given Bill's obvious demeanor and the way he responds to some of Ellie's dialogue. He grumbles a lot but in a sense comes across as caring at the same time (while trying to hide it). He's sort of the crotchety old hermit but likely was not always that way.

ND does a great job of allowing interpretation and realism to characters given a relatively small timeframe.
GamerEuphoria  +   460d ago
It's hopefully the start of more well written, more realistic, characters...though i don't see it becoming the norm any time soon unfortunately. But alas progress is progress
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M83_  +   460d ago
It's actually impossible to get a hold of a copy here! Very disappointed I have to wait.

Not going to read any spoilers, but I'd commend them for tackling this subject. There are gay people and far more often then not they just get edited out in favour of the more stereotypical straight, male, and more often white characters. Maybe to avoid rocking the boat? I don't know. It's not very realistic, though.

The walking dead phased out a gay couple that appear in the comics, so I've read, and I wonder, why? Is it such a big offensive deal so some people?

As I said I'm not going to read the article, but props to them if the gay character is nothing like the stereotype. I'm gay myself but couldn't be further from the stereotype and I despise gay people being exclusively depicted as the effeminate, bitchy, weak and camp type. All it does is enforce those false images and makes it hard for many straight men to think they could befriend a gay person because they think they couldn't possible be alike or have anything in common. I'm solid proof that's not true and even get called a "sexually retarded straight guy" because I'm more masculine in my ways than many of my straight mates even :D

Anyway I'm going off on a rant but I expect this level of maturity and realism from developers like ND. Well done!
KingKevo  +   460d ago
Is it really so difficult to get a copy? WOW. May I ask you where about you live? Seems weird that the game is still sold out in some places. I'm glad I bough my copy from an online retailer and got it two days early. Otherwise I would have probably downloaded it from the PS store. And I feel for you, having to wait for this game, knowing that it's out, must be horrible :/
M83_  +   460d ago
I'm in Ireland so I don't think we'd have a huge amount of copies but still! Ordered it on amazon and there was only 12 left in stock then. Crazy how this game is out of stock since launch day! Must be some game

Next time amazon all the way!
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KingKevo  +   460d ago
Oh ok, cool. Yeah it's sold out here in Germany in some stores as well. What surprised me was that in the UK the (GAME exclusive I think) Ellie Edition was sold out so quickly. Here in Germany (and in Austria where I bought the game) you can still get the collector's editions pretty much everywhere online. I guess Sony did really not expect the game to get received so well by the customers. I'm glad people like, sorry, love it.
KingKevo  +   460d ago
I totally agree. It's good to have such a gay character in a game. But tbh, I was suspecting him to be gay from the moment he tells us about his partner. The way he said it was way to emotional for the partner to just be a partner he was working with. And as the author says in the article, it's cool to have a gay person in a game that doesn't seem to be gay. The funny thing is, a lot of gay people, if not most, are 'hetero like'. You couldn't be able to tell if they are gay or not from how they act, talk or whatever.

But that thing is, at least for most developers and writers, not interesting. A gay person that doesn't seem gay is pointless for them. Why have a gay person that seems hetero. So most developers, just like in TV and movies, take a stereotypical gay person, mostly for the laughs. And that sucks.

That's why it was is so cool to have a person like Bill, a strong guy, a skilled guy, a tough guy who is kinda weird and paranoid after living alone for so long, always in danger. I even think it's ok from ND not to directly say that he's gay and it'S also nice to see that neither Joel nor Ellie make a big deal out of it or say something stupid about it. The joke Ellie made (about the sticky pages) was really funny.

I hope this will be done by other developers and ND again or in other ways. That'S how it should be and it's nice to see this topic being handled in such a mature way in such a mature game. Video games are usually REALLY homophobic (the outcry about Mass Effect anyone? Or any online game out there), this game is not.

And now a gay closing comment with rainbows in it: Sure there are these stereotypes we know (and love) from GTA, but gay people are like the color of a rainbow, there are many different colors. From leather daddies to the more 'fa**y' type of gay.

And oh, I was talking to a friend about this and he didn't get that he was gay. So it's true, not everyone pays enough attention to get it, which is sad if people don't pay attention in such a game.
Lykon  +   460d ago
I'm a homosexual.
Hicken  +   460d ago
Good for you.
Lykon  +   459d ago
thanks . the sex is pleasant .

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