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Square Enix: Success for FFX HD could "pave the way" for more HD remakes, including FFXII

Key Final Fantasy developer Yoshinori Kitase has told RPG Site that success for the upcoming Final Fantasy X & X-2 HD Remaster titles could lead to further similar developments for other classic FF titles.

"We'll have to wait and see if these remasters are going to be successful, first," the Producer of FFX and FFXIII told us at E3 2013.

"If they do well, I think this will pave the way for more of the previous games to remade in an HD sort of quality." (E3, Final Fantasy X / X-2 HD Remaster: Collector’s Edition, Final Fantasy XII, PS3)

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wishingW3L  +   842d ago
then I hope it flops because the only FF games worthy of a remake are FF6 and 7 and both of them will never be remade anyway.
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sinncross  +   842d ago

I would love to have FF12 on PSV. I hear the international version of FF12 is like a totally different game (due to how the changes affect combat etc).

I disliked the story and teh character were not the best, but I loved playing the game regardless. I would pick up a remaster of that on PSV.
HeavenlySnipes  +   842d ago
It is and FFXII International version is easily my favourite FF game

FF6 and 9 are tied for second
VileAndVicious  +   842d ago
FFXII definitely had a few cons but to me it ranks among the highest of one of the best in the series (along with 9 and 6 lol)
Glad to see some XII love, it was an awesome game and seems to get a bad rep from time to time. I wish Yasumi Matsuno was still at square all of his games are epic!


YES I 100% agree lol.
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bobtheimpaler  +   842d ago
I hated FFX. Couldn't stand the linearity and the boring story and whiny characters.

I'm actually playing FFXII at the moment and I'm really enjoying it to my surprise. FFXIIHD and FFXV actually have me interested in the series again after several years.
sunnygrg  +   842d ago
One of my all time favorite games. God I had so much fun playing it. The Gambit system was a thing of beauty in my opinion.
MRMagoo123  +   842d ago
If they do remakes of ff games i want all of them from 7 up to 12 (excluding online only) I loved 7,8,9,10 and 10 part 2, i liked 12 but i didnt like the combat as much i prefer turn based.
Jaces  +   842d ago
...yea, they can keep XII..no thanks. I'll take VIII and IX though. :)
slayorofgods  +   841d ago
FF12 is probably the most under rated games in the FF series. With all that was put into it, it blows FF10 away, it just has way more depth to it....
Snookies12  +   842d ago
Look man, I agree that FF7 and FF6 SHOULD be remade. However, that doesn't mean that other entries in the series shouldn't. Just because FFXII is mentioned, doesn't mean that we won't see FF7 or FF6 one day. Sure they're a longshot these days, but we can always hold out hope.

I'd love to see FF6-FF9 all remade. Not in PS4/PS3 graphics, but at least an upgrade from what they were. I'd be happy if they were on par with FFX style graphics. Regardless though, I'm buying the FFX HD remaster, and I hope it does well. FFX was an amazing game, and deserves to sell well. In fact, perhaps it'll be the push SE needs to start looking into older games in the franchise and really seeing that there is some value in remastering them.
Dasteru  +   842d ago

PS2 visuals in 1080p

I'd be fine with that.

I admit IX with XIIIs visuals would be awesome but it would probably take squeenix 20 years to do it, knowing them.
HeavenlySnipes  +   842d ago
FF7 can't just be remade like a FFXII or FFX could. Those games already feature 3d environments, and just need to be upscaled and run at a stable 60FPS

FF7 would have to be reDONE. They'd have to create real 3d character models for every character in the game, render all the environments (the PS1 game had environments that were just picture backgrounds) etc..

With all that time spent they could just make a new game. Sure the remake of FF7 would be a huge success, but its really up to SE if they want to commit and go forward with it
shuuwai  +   841d ago
I wouldn't be surprise IF they made FF-XIII,FF-XIII-2,XIII-3 in 4K resolution, before *thinking* of making FF-VII in HD 720P.

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DragonKnight  +   842d ago
"the only FF games worthy of a remake are FF6 and 7"

Needs more FF8.
NeXXXuS  +   842d ago
I really want to see that opening sequence to the game with current gen graphics.
DragonKnight  +   842d ago
I want to see the battle scene during the Galbadia Garden invasion in current gen graphics. I love the part of that scene where a Galbadian soldier gets batted off his motorcycle by a SeeD with a sword.
VileAndVicious  +   842d ago
For some reason I never really enjoyed 8. Lol maybe it was the expectations after FF7 but it never resonated well will me. I think I stopped on the third disk back in the day.
rainslacker  +   842d ago
8 is definitely one of my favorites. There was a lot of charm to 9, but it doesn't get mentioned too often.:(

6 and 7 are tied for me. Otherwise there is no particular order outside of 8 being my favorite. 10 is really good, even though it doesn't rank up there as one of the best for me.

Kinda makes me sad that someone would hope for something to flop because they have no interest in it. Way to disregard the millions of other FF fans out there Wishing.
MRMagoo123  +   842d ago
I named my daughter Rinoa lol that tells you im a fan of 8 lol. She is 1 now and a very happy girl we call her Rinny for short.
shuuwai  +   841d ago
I say 7 and 9.
8 was meh, 10 so, so, 11, dunno... 12 (sigh) 13, got milk?

What about the Chrono Trigger series? Serly? Nothing in PS3, how about PS4???????????
kingPoS  +   842d ago
So your saying you want FFX & FFX2 HD to fail because you desire FF VI & FF VII remakes instead.

Man... that's a whole new level of c**block there, real classy.
konnerbllb  +   842d ago
Why didn't they just remake ffvii. The hd remake doesn't look different enough for me to buy it. If it's five bucks digital I may pick it up.
mediate-this  +   841d ago
I agree with you on that, that's just a p.r move to make the mass buy the remake, ff6 and 7 are awesome, I like six better. just a better cast in my opinion
jc48573  +   842d ago
they don't really have a lot of games to remaster, though. Full remakes, well, that's a different story.
AP  +   842d ago
I can get behind 12, though. One of their best!
jc48573  +   842d ago
I kinda wish they consider remastering Front Mission 4 and 5. They have other rpgs that are made by Tri Ace....Not very familiar with Eidos games.
TongkatAli  +   842d ago
Hell yeah!
jc48573  +   842d ago
I think Front Mission has great potential to make a comeback. I really loved Front Mission 5.
Snookies12  +   842d ago
I wouldn't say one of their best, but definitely a great game in terms of gameplay. There was a LOT to do on that game. I sunk in about 250+ hours into my PS2 copy. The story and characters were lacking however. I didn't really care about any of them. Balthier was the best character in my opinion. Though even after 3 playthroughs, I still found the story to be lacking and rather boring.

Regardless, I'd love to see FFXII in an HD format. I'd play it again on my Vita for sure. I just hope SE sees the potential of their older games and starts remastering them. I want FF6-FF9 all redone!
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rainslacker  +   842d ago
I liked 12. It had excellent game play. But I've played through it a couple times, and even today when looking at the story I keep wondering to myself what the hell is the motivation behind these characters. The story seems to be so disconnected from what's going on in the world.
knifefight  +   842d ago
Especially the international version of XII!

It changes the whole game!
VileAndVicious  +   842d ago
Lol how about a remake of the original Chrono trigger? Hell even another sequel? I think I might lose my mind if that ever happened.
Snookies12  +   842d ago
Shhhhh, we don't talk about Chrono Trigger. It was too perfect. No remake/sequel could ever equal its brilliance lol.
Godmars290  +   842d ago
Please no.

Would rather see Type Zero. A Front Mission comeback - AND NOT THAT EVOLVED CRAP!
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Inception  +   842d ago
I'm a big fans of Front Mission but very dissapointed with how SE treated the franchise :(

I mean, they don't localize FM 5, the best on the series and function as the conclusion from FM 1-4. Instead, they hire Double Helix to made the abomination FM (D)Evolved. It flops very bad and SE just...shut down the franchise T_T

Anyway, i don't think we will see FF Type-0 localization. SE even don't talk it one single bit on E3 :(
Yeezus  +   842d ago
This remake will be a success
MonkeyNinja  +   842d ago
I just wish they'd fix the horrible animations. Everything else is good. And I like how they upgraded the textures and character models. But the way the characters would turn around sometimes was just bad. Everything else was good though, at least for X. Never beat X-2.

On topic: I'd like them to do an HD upgrade of VII-IX. Still pre-rendered backgrounds, no voice. I'd buy them again.
LightSamus  +   842d ago
It's fairly easy to upgrade models and textures but tweaking things like animations requires a lot more work. I'd love it, but it's not really worth it in work time for Squeenix.
tarbis  +   842d ago
Dasteru  +   842d ago
Yes FFXII, it is a great game.
Godmars290  +   842d ago
Its a great MMO you mean.
Dasteru  +   842d ago

Since when is FFXII an MMO?

I think you need to look it up lol, you are confusing it with something else.
wenaldy  +   842d ago

you mistaken FFXI as FFXII
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Godmars290  +   842d ago
"you mistaken FFXI as FFXII"
No. No I'm not.

In regards to story, FF12's had more in common to one taking place in the FF11 world. Know they took the final boss fight and put it in 11.
Hadoukameha  +   842d ago
I hope everyone buys FFX-2 as well, not just FFX for Vita and PS3. We need to so we can show Square-Enix that not only do we want them do do more remasters, but that there is still interest in turn-based RPGs so we don't just get more like FFXV in the future.
Snookies12  +   842d ago
FFXV looks absolutely freaking amazing. This coming from someone who LOVES turn based, and has been around since the first Final Fantasy... I'm not hung up on a battle system. It's the story, characters, and world that are important. They are what make a Final Fantasy game.

Also, you know that FFX-2 comes on the disc with FFX on PS3 copies right?
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Hadoukameha  +   842d ago
FFXV is just DMC with numbers flying around when hits connect, and no, Final Fantasy was more than that lame argument of "story, characters, and world." Final Fantasy stood for excellent gameplay, and party-based, strategic combat.

Only the PS3 version comes with both, I mentioned Vita. Good try though.
Snookies12  +   842d ago
Why are you so defensive? For that matter, why is my argument lame? Because it doesn't match your opinion, or because you can't give me a reasonable excuse as to why I'm wrong? When you think back to past entries of Final Fantasy games, do you remember the turn based gameplay (which was virtually the same in every entry before FFX) or do you remember the great moments in the story?

Seriously, even having played all the FF games (multiple times mind you), I'm willing to admit that the turn based system was the same pretty much every time. Sure there were some slight variations, but it was practically the same.

As for your "Only the PS3 version comes with both, I mentioned Vita. Good try though." remark... Look at your own comment above. You said that you hope everyone buys FFX-2 as well, not just FFX for Vita AND PS3. That's why I mentioned that X-2 came with the PS3 copy as well.
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DragonKnight  +   842d ago
"FFXV is just DMC with numbers flying around when hits connect."

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fsfsxii  +   842d ago
Man, i can't believe i'm such a hypocrite, i was bashing FFXV a couple of days ago and i'm now playing FF Crisis core and loving it, their combat system is similar.

I'll buy the game for sure, i forgot my way of gaming for a second though
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Snookies12  +   842d ago
@fsfsxii - Don't bash until you get to try the game at least! :]

Think about it. Hating on something before you get a chance to try it only cheats yourself out of a potentially grand experience. Even if the premise doesn't look great, it never hurts to give it a try.
DragonKnight  +   842d ago
@Snookies: Unless it's DmC.
Snookies12  +   842d ago
@DragonKnight - Actually, even being a long time Devil May Cry fan, I gave that a shot as well... It wasn't good at all. :\

It looked the same in terms of combat, but required no skill at all. Not to mention the change in Dante, as well as his backstory. Blah...
MRMagoo123  +   842d ago
I have x and x-2 on ps2 still i dont need the remakes unless they add new stuff, they dont look that bad on the ps2 , i dont know why they make remakes of games ppl arent asking for, everyone pretty much wants 7,8,9.
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the_bebop  +   842d ago
If FFX and X-2 sell well maybe they will do a FF7 remake.
chestnut1122  +   842d ago
I've read that they would only remake Final Fantasy 7 if another Final Fantasy Game would surpass it's sale.
Kenshin_BATT0USAI  +   842d ago
The characters and story might not have been that good, but FF12 was amazing. It looked beautiful. It was a huge game, and damn fun.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   842d ago
I would love a FF12 HD remake so hopefully FFX remake is a "success" in SE's eyes.
fsfsxii  +   842d ago
I wonder what their sales target is...
chestnut1122  +   842d ago
5 million -_- Joke.
Hope it's not because if it is, Bullshit.
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belac09  +   842d ago
im so damn happy
No_Pantaloons  +   842d ago
That must have been a typo, its FFVII, not FFXII. If it wasn't a typo then they have learned nothing are utterly hopeless... still.
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Trunkz Jr  +   842d ago
FF6 would be a great HD remake, either on 3DS or Vita or PS4 I don't care which I love that game so much.
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fsfsxii  +   842d ago
How would it be an "HD" remake on the 3DS?
talocaca  +   842d ago
I think it will sell well on vita. Most people are done with Persona...now, if only they released NinoKuni :'(
Relientk77  +   842d ago
Final Fantasy IX

please, frickin' love that game and always will

a damn masterpiece
Thatlalala  +   842d ago
Man that would be a dream come true. There is only one remake everyone wants to see, and they are hyping up XII to be remade?!?!? ppppppffffffffftttttt.
fsfsxii  +   842d ago
Yes, i hope it succeeds, because FF12 is what really got me in FF games and JRPGs in general
MRMagoo123  +   842d ago
How on earth did it take ff12 to get you into jrpgs ? did you not play 7,8,9 ? they are way better, 12 was the turning point when they started changing the games into ff13 all westerny and shooty and gay. Turn based is where its at.
Hadoukameha  +   842d ago
True but 12 was still good enough. All downhill now...
fsfsxii  +   842d ago
I'm 16 year old, so i was born the same year as FF7. I knew the RPG genre with FFX but haven't gotten the chance to beat it, i loved it though, and thus i bought FFXII the moment i saw it in stores. I recently bought FF7 and playing it at the moment
CaulkSlap  +   842d ago
Sounds good to me! If they won't do a full remake of the PS1 FF games then I really hope they've still got the files for the backgrounds and can re-render them in HD.
-MD-  +   842d ago
FFIX please.
Tdmd  +   842d ago
FFXII International version HD? Wow, hope it happen! Make it happen, fans! I'll do my part and get FFX day one.
gigoran  +   842d ago
Hahaha 12? You seriously think 12 is the one everyone had on their minds? 5+2! That's what the fans are really talking about. 12... Don't make me laugh
chestnut1122  +   842d ago
You obviously DOn't know how awesome Final Fantasy 12 was -_- . Did You even played it?.
gigoran  +   842d ago
not saying 12 is a bad game. it's like I said, 12 isn't the one people have been crying for a remake of all these years.
chestnut1122  +   842d ago
Edited: FF 7 Can wait. I think it would have it's remake on PS4.
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SanMarco  +   842d ago
FF 12!!!!
Donnywho  +   842d ago
Of course I'm getting FF10HD. Have they seen the sales for all the classic FF games on PSN??? Do they really think this thing has any chance of not selling? LOL
Obamanationn  +   842d ago
anyone try out FF-XIV realm reborn , can't believe square-enix has the balls to call that game an MMO and want to charge players $15 a month on top of it
TongkatAli  +   842d ago
I would platinum the shit out of 12. The only reason i am buying X and X-2.
Hadoukameha  +   842d ago
@snookies12: Don't pretend like I'm being defensive, I'm just stating facts. Zelda wouldn't be Zelda without puzzle filled temples and Call of Duty wouldn't be what it is if it suddenly became a TRPG. You can't just rip a game from its genre and expect positive results, unless it's a spinoff, usually.

Components of game design are not mutually exclusive, you cant ask if I think back to the story or the gameplay. They go hand in hand with the art, music, and everything else that made it Final Fantasy. Part of that is different now, so while the story MAY be there (who knows, looks like that WOWZA KEWL TRAILER focused on nothing but action to me, no hint of story or characterization) but it wont be a complete package.

Also, quit nitpicking about my wording regarding FFX and X-2.
Tdmd  +   842d ago
"You can't just rip a game from its genre and expect positive results, unless it's a spinoff, usually."

Turn base combat is not a genre, what are you talking about?! 'Tales of' series features real time combat and are jrpg's all the same (and it goes for many other franchises out there). FFXV going real time is not the same as it being ripped of it's genre. That's crazy talk.

I get it that you don't like real time (I think I'd rather have it turn based too), but as long as there is a lot of exploration, interesting side quests, a rich world backstory where I could get imersed at and likable characters, I'm pretty sure XV can be just as good as any other entry in the series (real time or not). It is too soon for you to be bashing it just because it doesn't have your favorite combat model. Just wait and give it a chance, will' ya?
Hadoukameha  +   842d ago
Actually, different battle systems and gameplay styles define what sub-genre a game is; Final Fantasy Tactics is a Tactical RPG, while FFXV is an Action RPG. Final Fantasy's main games generally revolved around some type of turn for combat. This changes that completely.

Even if the game is good, it will not be the Final Fantasy we deserve. Relegate this to spinoff status and we're cool. Otherwise, I take issue, with good reason.

See, this is less about the quality of the game itself and more a question about the soul of the series. I say the soul passed on after XII, but it arguably lingered. Now it has certainly passed on...
Tdmd  +   842d ago
I guess you are right, I haven't considered the sub-genres, just jrpg's as a whole. It is changing one key feature in the franchise that will completely change the way it is played. Personally, I still don't mind it, and don't agree with you either, as I think it might be a great final fantasy nonetheless, but I do understand your point.
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TheOrion  +   842d ago
Sorry Square, not buying it. Focus on new things instead of recycling everything. I have seen you pull this tact one too many times and I'm done.
DEATHxTHExKIDx  +   842d ago
Id rlly like to see VI get a 3DS remake
TongkatAli  +   841d ago
I want XII port more then that. I know messed up = /

I want that International version.
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FluffyPloo  +   842d ago
I expect ffx to do well so ff12 is highly likely, crisis core and type 0 would be good ones to be remastered. As would 5 and 6 in the style of 4's psp remaster

I hope for a HD version of FF Tactics personally.
The_Truth_24_7  +   842d ago
So it has to sell 7+million in SE's eyes to be considered successful.
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