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Submitted by Arai 973d ago | news

Crash reveals PS4 HDD details and streaming?

Within the first 10 minutes of the doors being opened at E3, a game had already crashed. That game was none other than the PS4 exclusive Knack. While being played at the Sony booth, the game crashed mid-game to reveal an interesting screen. (Knack, PS4)

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Sharius   973d ago | Off topic | show | Replies(4)
Software_Lover  +   973d ago
So was the game streaming to that console from somewhere else, like a pc?

Either way, Knack looks like the cleanest PS4 game thus far. Too bad it's only 30fps.
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killcycle  +   973d ago
This got a lot at Disagrees some i'm just wondering is it really just 30FPS?
Software_Lover   973d ago | Immature | show
mp1289  +   973d ago
He got alot of disagrees because he said a kids game is the "cleanest" ps4 game which tells us he hasnt even heard of games like kz shadowfall and because even if it is 30 fps its not the end of the world
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3-4-5  +   972d ago
@ MP....your logic is the worst.

* So if a dev uses more than 10-15 colors in a game it's considered a kids game ?

How does that prove what he has or hasn't heard of?

That isn't what proof is, there are other variables you haven't either listed or thought of which makes your opinion...just an opinion.

Can you even comprehend what I just explained to you?
sobekflakmonkey  +   972d ago
no man, what he means by cleanest looking game is that it looks "clean" as in, the resolution(also IQ, texturing and AA, the game looks practically like a CG film, I get what he was saying, it's really sad that everyone gets so defensive and doesn't stop to actually think about what someone else is saying.
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Gimmemorebubblez  +   973d ago
HammadTheBeast  +   973d ago
The article is assuming it is streamed cause it says "HOST" and has a wireless icon.
Qrphe  +   973d ago
It wasn't being streamed
despair  +   973d ago
haven't heard that knack is 30fps, where are you getting that?
Shadowstar  +   973d ago
In development, you have the data on a PC and the console reads from there. It's way faster than transferring all X gb of data to the console before you start debugging. Even if they were doing that at E3 (which I'm fairly certain they weren't), the game would still be running on the console, not streaming from somewhere else.

(PS, I think disagree is just a fast way to say no sometimes.)
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Nafon  +   972d ago
No, you got a lot of disagrees because you said something critical (30fps) and didn't back it up. you got those disagrees because you are wrong.
3-4-5  +   972d ago
30 FPS on a platformer type game is ok though..60 would be awesome.
AliTheSnake1  +   972d ago
My concern now is why did the game Crash.
Assassin's creed 4 locked up .
Hopefully it is not the ps4 hardware.
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solidsheep  +   972d ago
...Could it be the console has not been released yet or could it be the game has been released yet
NameRemoved0017  +   972d ago
Atleast Sony was actually using their consoles Microsoft was using Pcs to show off their games lol.
NarooN  +   972d ago
Well every game at the Sony booth was running in real-time, and since Knack was the only game to crash, I guess logically one could deduce it was the game's fault, not the hardware. It's obviously not the final version of the game's code, so it was just an unfortunate coincidence.
oof46  +   972d ago
Don't really know why you got so many disagrees.
rainslacker  +   972d ago
The "Host" referred to in this image is common on dev kits. It is used to connect the dev kit to the PC for running the game while it's still on the PC. Most major game engines support this in one form or another. It's for testing code revisions quickly, without having to upload the entire code/resource file onto the machine(which tends to be a lengthy process). That "icon" remains regardless of how you're playing the game on the dev kits I've seen, although some call it something different. The game was probably loaded onto the dev kit however. That would make more sense for an E3 booth, since it's redundant to have a 2nd PC to do such a thing.

I'm more curious if this was an actual production dev kit though. It was my understanding Sony and MS hadn't produced these yet. Could have been the dev kit software running on a PC however, a more likely scenario.

@Ali above

Hard to say. It depends on how completed the games are. I'd imagine they'd be going gold within the next few months, which means they'd be at the point where they're fixing issues like this, with polish coming in the last month before going gold.

At this point in time, it could be OS/hardware bugs that haven't been resolved yet, or software bugs within the game itself. Speculating is kind of pointless, because all it would be is speculation. This is true either way a person wants to see it for whatever reason they have for seeing it that way..
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Mikelarry  +   973d ago
atleast it didnt crash to a windows 7 screen
Blackdeath_663  +   973d ago
an actual ps4 dev kit. atleast now we can rest assured what was seen at e3 was an actual representation of the ps4 hardware
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DarkHeroZX  +   973d ago
All this proves is that cloud gaming is not the future. The game was being streamed. It wasn't even installed on the HDD. So yeah MS is full of it.
MysticStrummer  +   973d ago
MS fans will claim One is built for cloud gaming so it will be better at it. That's BS of course. There's nothing special about it that allows cloud computing.
NameRemoved0017  +   972d ago
If Microsoft cared about cloud gaming then they would of atleast put a good wireless chip in it that was 802.11ac not 802.11n which is the current standard.
tarbis  +   973d ago
At least the actual game is being run on PS4 hardware and not from some pc or laptop with "comparative specs" that substitutes as xbone. LOL!
SixAmpFuze  +   973d ago
crytek said ryse was running on their xbx1 dev kit
Reverent  +   973d ago
And Crytek are full of themselves ALL the time.
supersonicjerry  +   973d ago
why would they be the only ones to be using a dev kit? that's just dumb.
Dead_Cell  +   972d ago
...Because the Dev Kit version is good enough? Just because everyone else is lying it doesn't make you dumb to not do the same. They showed confidence in their game and rightfully so, Ryse looks pretty damn awesome.
Nafon  +   972d ago
The PC's running the xb1 games weren't even close to the "comparative specs" lol. Some were running Nvidia GTX 780's. (which are a lot more powerful than console hardware, costing 1.5x more than the PS4)
rainslacker  +   972d ago
It could just be the dev kit software running on PC. From what I understand neither console maker has shipped their official final dev kits out. I may be wrong on this though. Similarly spec'd PC's is pretty common before a new console release, and this is usually what they do, run dev kit software on a similarly spec'd PC.
ltachiUchiha  +   973d ago
Im just glad that they were running on actual ps4 dev kits because infamous second son looked total badazz.
Campy da Camper  +   973d ago
Hands down my most anticipated next gen game. That gameplay footage of him running around Seattle center was mind blowing.
ltachiUchiha  +   973d ago
Yup totally agree. They shouldve shown that at e3 but i guess the trailer was cool enough at sony's press conference but i bet that footage wouldve got the crowd going even more.
TheBrownBandito  +   973d ago
"...suggesting some sort of networking is involved (usually streaming when dealing with a “host” system). This could just be referring to something else entirely though."

No shit Sherlock.
Ju  +   973d ago
Host means nothing. Same as on PS3 dev kits. "app_home" is the "disk" the game (assets) run from. Those dev kits can mount windows (or any SMB) share and load mostly assets from there. Binaries are deployed using the debugger. Obviously being a dev kit, this also applies to the PS4. The game most likely ran from local storage at the show, not from a remote share.
ThyMagicSword  +   973d ago
Cheap, I thought over 1000. Man, this is a massive let down.
jXales  +   973d ago
atleast they were kind enough to allow the harddisk to be upgradeable. so if you want to up the ante you can do so.
ThyMagicSword  +   973d ago
I have no idea how to upgrade, so it remains the same. Sony should upgrade for me, that would only be fair after sony's policy. It is becoming the Xbox One Syndrome.
Campy da Camper  +   973d ago
At magic....dude all u do is pull out the hard drive and slide in another one. Its really easy.
thechosenone  +   973d ago
guys he's a troll check out this comment below. don't bother with him.
MYSTERIO360  +   973d ago
Lol you make me laugh
ThyMagicSword  +   973d ago
Sony's policy is starting to suck snot in an ice cream ball within. First the restrictions, then this. Now both of my eyes are blue, what's next? Not my stomach, please...
Software_Lover  +   973d ago
GreenRanger  +   973d ago
He's definitely stoned.
MysticStrummer  +   973d ago
Put down thy magic bong and step away from it for a few hours. Maybe get a pizza.
ThyMagicSword  +   973d ago
You're right, I should Change my nickname to ThyMysticSword. And I love Pizza, but only in Italy, where are you from? I don't wanna buy your Pizza and you don't wanna sell me your Pizza, i know you know. Put down your life and give it to me...
VitaOwner  +   972d ago
You know what, he isn't on weed. Judging from his last comment, he is definitely on shrooms
jazzlover511  +   973d ago
This may sound silly, but I thought, at a quick glance at the link title, Crash Bandicoot was revealed for PS4. Oh how I really want that game again, with its epic gameplay
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johnniejay  +   973d ago
I dont care if its only 400 gb once they said it can be upgraded I will definitely be putting a 1tb in there if possible
jmc8888  +   973d ago
Might as well go 2TB's, only costs like $10-20 more.
dumahim  +   973d ago
I wouldn't use a dev kit's available HD space as evidence of what the final product will have.
rainslacker  +   972d ago
True, dev kits have quite a bit of software available on them that isn't in the user version of the system. Mostly for debugging and stuff. The final size won't be 500GB. This is obvious due to the way HD size numbers are marketed. I imagine it will be around 470GB available with nothing loaded, and probably another 10-15 for the OS.

Either way, you can upgrade it to 2TB I believe.
despair  +   973d ago
Not a big deal, its the OS and secondary features that use up that extra 30GB.
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ala_767  +   973d ago
400GB is still more than enough!!! At least its not 80GB PS3 where you always have to worry about space :D
jmc8888  +   973d ago
Not really. It should have been 1 TB, but given that we can buy our own then I'm ok with it...especially given the $399 price point.

What people forget is.....PS4 games will be massively bigger than PS3 games. Expect 15-50 GB's per game this generation.

My steam account already uses about 2TB.
ZBlacktt  +   973d ago
That is a Dev kit. Not the retail PS4. This story is meaningless. The retail PS4 has a 500g HD.
Ju  +   972d ago
500GB isn't much, TBH. I have a that in my PS3 and keep constantly deleting files because the disk is full. I could imagine I'd flip the PS4 drive. I still think Sony should release a bare bone machine without drive so you can choose what you want - but I know this would be hard to manage because no matter how big you'd put a sticker on it "REQUIRES HDD" people will just buy one complaining it won't work...or they'd release a TB version in 2014...I'm pretty sure it's impossible to get one this year anyway - without a pre-order or lining up...
NikeKiller4Life  +   973d ago
While i was watching e3 the dude was going around and he showed off a game that was on xbox it literally crashed while he was showing it
PositiveEmotions  +   973d ago
Idk if this good or bad. Will this happen to my ps4?
SonyWarrior  +   973d ago
you obviously dont know development cycle..
PositiveEmotions  +   973d ago
Nope i sure dont.

Care to explain?
SonyWarrior  +   973d ago
i actually dont care to explain, how about you google it. and just incase you still dont get it, They are some where around the end of implementation going into testing faze..
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CrossingEden  +   972d ago
neither do you -_-
JohnS1313  +   973d ago
This proves nothing. It isn't a regular PS4. What's with all these nonsense stories anyway?
DivineAssault  +   973d ago
Doesnt matter to me.. Im sticking a TB or 2 in there before i even begin playing anything
isyourhouseonfire  +   973d ago
The PS4 is definitely sinking fast. I'm really worried that insane hype and failure of the PS3 is happening all over again. Can Sony recover? I'm sure it can hold second place over Nintendo but it looks like Microsoft's death grip on the industry is about to grow stronger.
TakahashiDemon  +   973d ago
It's a developer kit they said.. those are always different than the actual console.
USEYOURFIST  +   973d ago
The PS4 box shows a 500GB HDD

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HIGGI666  +   973d ago
when you pre-order the PS4 at gamestop they tell you that its a 500GB PS4. HDD size doesnt matter cause if sony stays true we'll be able to put in our own HDD of whatever size we want.
CRAIG667  +   973d ago
At the end of the day I couldn't give a flying F**k if the PS4 stumbled a little at E3 or the xbox demos were running on a high end PC, as long as everything works when the products are set up in my house I couldn't care less,all the fanboys taking digs at each other on this site - it's just insane,we are all gamers we ALL succeed if ALL consoles succeed.

Competition between the big 3 has been what has kept gaming innovative and interesting over the last 8 years or so, without that competition we would have a very dull future in gaming to look forward to...
ZBlacktt  +   973d ago
So in other words, this whole story is no big deal at all.... There is no drama on the Sony side. It's all on the MS X1 TV console running off PC's with high end cards. With planted people in the audience to clap. All while shafting gamers out of used games and making them check in every 24 hours.
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Warlawk69  +   973d ago
hmm I wonder if you have to check in your rent a crowd aswell to sell your product. No worries, pre-ordering PS4 as we speak :)))
thegreatklemba  +   972d ago
you can put your own hdd so you dont like size buy a bigger hdd
coolasj  +   972d ago
So basically, the crash revealed that it was playing on a PS4. Good to know.
CrossingEden  +   972d ago
so first ac4 crashed, then watch dogs and destiny slowed down, and now not even ten minutes after they allowed people to try the games, the thing crashes again -_- wow
BelieveinGhosts  +   972d ago
Dont be surprised. This is what happens when you decide to pack in 8 GB of GDDR5 RAM at the last minute for bragging rights without changing and upgrading the PS4's architecture to accomodate it.

I would laugh my ass off if PS4 is the console to run into serious problems at launch after all the crying and hating by the Sony fan boys.

All i will say is

( •_•)>⌐■-■

'Karma is a Fucking Bitch'
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Tundra  +   972d ago
Increasing the capacity of RAM literally won't effect anything besides slightly increased wattage consumption.

Stop talking out of your ass.
ZBlacktt  +   972d ago
and MS wasn't even using the X1... So yeah.
BelieveinGhosts  +   972d ago
@Tundra lol, you got me or so you think?
feeter  +   972d ago
When I first read the title I was thinking "Crash" Bandicoot
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