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Why Ryse Is The Most Frustrating Game Of E3

Ryse plays itself even if the player isn't pressing any buttons.
“We don’t want the player to feel frustrated.” claims Crytek.

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Gimmemorebubblez1648d ago

I’m on the battlefield. I’m stomping through the corpses of my comrades swinging my sword at anything that moves. I begin a combo, I slash twice and then whooom slow motion is initiated, shit is about to get ‘cinematic’. A button prompt hovers elusively above the sword I’m about to drive into the throat of my enemy… argh I’m too slow! The prompt flickers, disappears.

I missed it. Damn.

But then somehow, for some reason, I still complete the cinematic ‘kill’.

What?

Maybe it’s a bug I think, but no. Next time I deliberately press the wrong button. The kill goes ahead, no consequences. Then I try hitting no buttons whatsoever. The kill goes ahead. I put the controller on the table in front of me, the kill goes ahead.

What is going on here?

I ask one of the Crytek people hovering at the booth – is this a bug? Why am I completing kills when I hit the wrong button prompt? Or, worse, no button at all. Turns out it was a deliberate design choice.

“We don’t want the player to feel frustrated,” I am told.

Interesting....I heard the QTE's could be turned off completely or ignored.

Kalowest1648d ago

The fact you can't fail QTE is the biggest problem to me. I like the graphics and gameplay, but hate the fact it's holding your hand to much.
Till the game goes gold, Crytek can still fix/ fine tune the QTEs.

kneon1648d ago

It sounds like they designed this for complete noobs who have never held a controller before.

What is the point of a QTE that you can't fail, that's just retarded.

Testfire1648d ago

I'll sum up in 1 word why this design decision was made...KINECT! This is still a kinect game at heart so of course they want people to feel like they are good at a game or that kinect is accurate. Day one release game and already kinect is having a negative effect on the quality of games. Shame on you Crytek and shame on you MS.

n4g_someone1647d ago

So more like a movie, than a video game.

Nodoze1645d ago

Clearly this game is designed for the NFL crowd that typically do not play games. They can watch tv then watch err play ryse. Sounds like fun...in some alternate gaming universe.

QuickTime events are stupid in ALL games. We need a new mechanic.

mistecheese1645d ago (Edited 1645d ago )

thats messed up, man! After playing the combat section of a game for so long, one of the joys is just seeing what happens when you die...

Arkham Asylum: Cool Villain Cut-scenes

Deadspace: Gruesome death sequences

Tomb Raider: Freaking torture porn bro, like WTF

You get the point, though! This game is just holding your hand the entire time! No challenge whatsoever!

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Sharius1648d ago

quickius timeus eventius

mistecheese1645d ago (Edited 1645d ago )

"My name is Quickius Timeus Eventius, leader of the great Xbox 360 legion, and son to the bastardized Xbox One, and I will have my revenge in this console or the next!"

fermcr1648d ago (Edited 1648d ago )

So let me see if a i get this ...

A game full of QTE's like Heavy Rain (and Beyond: Two Souls), is praised and considered to be a good game.

A game full of QTE's like Ryse, get's criticized and people bash the game, just because it's on the X1.

Everything related to Xbox One (good or bad) is getting criticized and bashed... this is starting to get out of hand.

@The_Klank
"Both those games you mentioned have consequences if you fail a QTE.There's a right way to do QTEs and a wrong way, guess which one this is? "

Have you played Ryse ? How do you know if you fail it doesn't have consequences ?
Seriously, that's a pretty lame excuse.

The_Klank1648d ago

Both those games you mentioned have consequences if you fail a QTE.

There's a right way to do QTEs and a wrong way, guess which one this is?

Tiqila1648d ago (Edited 1648d ago )

don't be paranoid, it's quick time events that can't fail that suck. Because they're useless.

EDIT: The_Klank was faster :)

Skips1648d ago (Edited 1648d ago )

Failing a QTE can actually change the storyline for Heavy Rain... -________-

Ryse??? LOL!

Does a QTE have to happen after EVERY SINGLE KILL??? It's presence is completely unnecessary. It adds NOTHING to the story and it feels like a half baked attempt at trying to make EVERY SINGLE kill feel "epic".

Hell even God Of War III, (a game Xbox fanboys bash for being so QTE heavy) has less QTE in it than that ENTIRE demo. -_-

esemce1648d ago

I'm guessing 2 souls is going to have a great involving story with branching paths giving reply value, Whilst Ryse will be a very nice looking scripted interactive tech demo that involves the stabbing of a lot of people in the face.

Baka-akaB1648d ago (Edited 1648d ago )

I could agree with that sentiment , except when Asura's wrath , so far with an even better gameplay than Ryse , was shown , both sides were crapping onto him . And now suddenly something like Ryse is marvelous ?

At least quantic dream stuff was known as not being even remotely action games

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AngelicIceDiamond1647d ago (Edited 1647d ago )

@Ferm And yet Ready at Downs new game The Order 1886 was a simple teaser and fanboys thought it was the best thing ever.

Well damn if they can get excited over that then its ok for me to get excited over Black Tusks little teaser then...

Edit: Btw this game will have Co op or MP of sorts so I hope this games good.

http://n4g.com/news/1278993...

https://www.google.com/url?...

How Ryse looks imo http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Yeah, I'm actually pretty pumped for this game. I guess that makes me a bad person on here to like a game.

fermcr1647d ago (Edited 1647d ago )

@Bobbo44

You represent the worst of Sony fanboys and why everybody in the gaming world think that Sony fanboys are the worst.

Someone gives a opinion... and gets bashed. GROW UP LITTLE BOY.

Soc51647d ago

Uh, it says it in the article, which this is based on

jetlian1647d ago (Edited 1647d ago )

the whole game isn't qte and they took a kingdoms of amalur approach which also you couldnt fail qte. You could get up to 100 percent bonus xp.

There is no right or wrong way to do them but I do think it shouldn't be possitive. At the same time if the enemy is technically dead it shouldnt matter

Nodoze1645d ago

Achievement unlocked Couch Potato. Congratulations you did nothing and won.

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die_fiend1648d ago

In fairness to Crytek, they tried a few games where you had proper control input and they were the more soulless games ever conceived. Maybe QTE is the way forward for them. Just don't expect me to purchase from you after Crysis 3. I think 8/10 for the game is being very generous

CaptainFaisal1647d ago

whats QTE? i feel like an idiot ! but seriously... thanks

Testfire1647d ago

Quick Time Event. It's when you're playing a game and the game prompts an on screen button command to do something. As in the demo of Ryse there is a QTE to finish off an enemy.

Mounce1647d ago

PRESS A TO MARRRRIIOOO
PRESS X TO CHERYL
PRESS X TO JAAAAAYSONNNN!

And now the new addition to the team....

PRESS X TO [DO-EVERYTHING-RELATING-TO-KIL LING] - Press X to stab, Press X to throw, Press X to dodge and stab, Press X repeatedly to stab repeatedly! PRESS X TO WIN - THE GAME!

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Moonman1648d ago

Ryse: An Epic QTE from what I have seen.

Moonman1648d ago

I hope that didn't sound positive. I meant that as a bad thing...lol.

Godmars2901648d ago (Edited 1648d ago )

Sounds like its a Kinect game that doesn't use Kinect.

How is Crytek if not MS not humiliated by showing this off?

ginsunuva1648d ago

It was originally a kinect game. That's why it's all QTEs now

esemce1648d ago

It helps to sell/ advertise the Cryengine, I don't think they care about story or actual gameplay.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr31648d ago

Lol. Let's see if they complain about Beyond two souls.

SeraphimBlade1648d ago

Beyond uses QTEs to tell a better story and engage the player. Ryse uses them to look pretty.

I suppose you could say they're both interactive movies, but Beyond looks like a WAY better movie.

Godmars2901648d ago

By the sound of thing where Beyond or other games with QTE in them have consequences, you either die or have to repeat the QTE until you get it right, in Ryse its just some worthless mechanic. a prompt meant to make you feel like you're playing the game or playing through a scene.

Crytek is supposedly talking about removing the prompts, but since they don't work in the first place, what's the point?

A2X_1648d ago

It's not about the QTEs, it's about how they're implemented into the game.

No one will complain about God of War's QTEs for example. They come at the right moment and with epic proportions. As for Heavy rain/Beyond, the whole games are based on contextual actions/Cinematics. They have so many different mechanics it would be impossible not to have QTEs. Plus, they're perfectly implemented.

Now, for Ryse, They're repetitive & look like we can do without. That's all.

sway_z1648d ago (Edited 1648d ago )

I'm sure the developer was interviewed at E3 and said the button prompts were contextual not QTE?

QTE or not, I didn't mind it on Heavy Rain or the God of War series, and I won't mind it on Beyond either.

I am glad they did away with the forced Kinect controls and went with controller/voice play.

Ryse looks downright impressive though!!

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