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Submitted by robinburks 404d ago | opinion piece

Lucas and Spielberg Insult Video Games

Recently, George Lucas and Stephen Spielberg spoke at an event celebrating the opening of a new School of Cinematic Arts building at USC. During that event, both spoke about the “implosion” of the film industry and how television might just be the new medium to tell a story. They also stated that video games can’t tell stories and don’t create characters that we can care about. (PC, PS3, PS4, Wii, Wii U, Xbox, Xbox 360)

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Snookies12  +   404d ago | Well said
*facepalm* Both of these guys are washouts now. They made great movies back in the day, but now they have no room to talk.
ShugaCane  +   404d ago | Well said
"They also stated that video games can’t tell stories and don’t create characters that we can care about."

Funny indeed, because it's been a long time since I haven't cared for any of Spielberg or Lucas' movies" characters.
blackbeld  +   404d ago
The last great movie that I enjoyed from Spielberg is AI and its more then 10 years ago.

I Agree, they are washouts nowadays.
DragonKnight  +   404d ago | Well said
The most ironic part of this is that Spielberg is behind the new Halo tv show. This means he's taking a character from a video game (which he says can't create characters "we" care about) and making a show based around that character. What a hypocrite.
Blacktric  +   404d ago
"...and don’t create characters that we can care about."

Because I totally ended up caring about Anakin Skywalker in Star Wars prequels and any of the characters in Spielberg movies released post 2000, deeply.

They know they've become soulless sellout hacks and are doing everything they can to prove otherwise.
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ChozenWoan  +   404d ago | Well said
FFVII
Aeris

Nuff Said.
noctis_lumia  +   404d ago
lol then just an example....snake and the metal gear saga would want to have a word with these two noobs....

spielberg and lucas are finished now time to move on xd
GameSpawn  +   403d ago
Spielberg's and Lucas' generations have past. They have past their prime. They used to be great, but now their styles are just unappealing.

Great example for BOTH of them:
Indiana Jones: Last Crusade
vs
Indiana Jones: Crystal Skull

The first was brilliant and entertaining and never got "SCI-FI WTF?!" until the last 20 minutes. Crystal Skull they "nuked the damn fridge" in the FIRST 20 minutes.

Spielberg and Lucas just need to tip their hat to the new generation of directors (My picks: Joseph Kosinski, Christopher Nolan, and Zack Snyder) and bow out. Hell the three guys I listed have produced better movies in their short runs than Spielberg and Lucas ever have through their entire 30+ year run.
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Panthers  +   403d ago
They need to play TLoU, then talk.
EverydayGuy   403d ago | Bad language | show
thorstein  +   403d ago
To Steve and George: Please play Telltale's the Walking Dead and I dare you not to care about Clementine!

BTW: Thanks for making the Dark Lord of the Sith a whining little brat (that apparently invented C3PO)
NiteX  +   403d ago
"it's been a long time since I haven't cared"

That means you've been caring.
douevenlift  +   403d ago
Two out of touch boobs who have never played a game in their life don't know how far games have come in the last 20 years? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO body cares.

This is probably just payback for the horrible game that ET was decades ago, and it's probably the last game either of these two washed up directors ever played to have a retarded opinion like that.
Mounce  +   403d ago
Maybe we should kidnap them both, duct tape them to a chair and force them to play The Last of Us, Heavy Rain AND Metal Gear Solid 3.

;)
BinaryMind  +   403d ago
But, but Jar Jar Binks was such a classic and beloved character! I think it's clear to everyone Solid Snake and Master Chief have nothing on Sir Binks!
Skizelli  +   403d ago
Lol at the people insulting these guys over their opinion. "Waaah, they insulted my hobby!" That's what you sound like. Who cares what they think about video games? It's not exactly their forte, is it?

And they're not washouts, they're geniuses. Geniuses tend to go senile after a while. Cut them some slack.
nukeitall  +   403d ago
So instead of attacking the directors, I'm curious. What about game characters made you care about them?

Personal experience is that I don't care that much about the game characters. There might be an attachment, but not "care".

In movies, sure there has been a few.

edit:

reading a better article, what the directors actually say shares my exact opinion:

http://www.dualshockers.com...

This article is just a hit driven misleading article. I just down voted the site. Something I rarely do. Way to mislead.
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indubitably  +   403d ago
These guys really do have a point whether you want to believe it or not. They are more having the, "are video games high art?" conversation. Also, their points aren't necessarily absolute proofs or disproofs but they do make sense and provide a stem for further discussion which is not at all being attempted by anyone on this site because a defensive personal attack is way easier.
Knushwood Butt  +   403d ago
You don't care about Jar Jar Binks?
LostDjinn  +   404d ago
"Both of these guys are washouts now" - I think they've just lost their way.

You could say they started believing their own PR.
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Abriael  +   404d ago
What the article doesn't mention is that Microsoft's Don Mattrick was sitting there with them and didn't say a "but" in defense of games.

Telling, isn't it?
Nineball2112  +   404d ago
Yeah, Lucas really creates characters I care about...

http://i.qkme.me/3osqb1.jpg
SilentNegotiator  +   403d ago
How did Lucas manage to fall so low into a ditch and never even get a step out?
wishingW3L  +   403d ago
and what about Anakin? The first trilogy was supposed to be all about him but I never gave a crap about him. I prefer to think that trilogy does not even exists. I did like Qui-gon though.

There are many games with good characters like: FF, Deus Ex, Metal Gear, Mass Effect, Uncharted, Heavy Rain, etc. These guys don't know what they are talking about seriously. I bet they haven't even played that many games to begin with beside a bit of COD or some other braindead popular games.
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Knushwood Butt  +   403d ago
Just to remind yourself of what a joke Lucas became, watch THX 1138, with all it's pokes at mindless consumerism, then fast forward 10 years after it was made and Lucas himself became the master of merchandising greed.

I loved my Star Wars figures, but still, what a hypocrite....
aliengmr  +   404d ago
George "wooden dialog" Lucas really has nothing to say here. He's a terrible director and pretty awful storyteller judging by the prequels of Star Wars.

Spielberg, however, is one of the best directors around. The man can't help but make great movies.

That doesn't mean I agree with what they said, but credit where its due. Spielberg has directed many great films. You can disagree all you want but I invite you to look at the man's filmography and claim he's "washout".
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HammadTheBeast  +   403d ago
Spielberg is insanely hyped up. There are various better directors than him.
aliengmr  +   403d ago
Hyped up?

I'm not saying he's the best but look at the man's record. Very few directors have put out the amount of hits that Spielberg has, that is a fact.

George Lucas is and example of "hyped up".
Knushwood Butt  +   403d ago
Spielberg has the better portfolio by a long way, but he's also made a fair share of crap.
Derekvinyard13  +   404d ago
I can't disagree more, washouts? Ur gonna bash his career cause he said something about video games? Did you take the time to watch Lincoln or war horse? Spielberg is far from a wash out. Have you guys seen Schindlers list?
aliengmr  +   404d ago
And if he were praising storytelling in video games he'd be a hero with a stellar career.
Angeljuice  +   403d ago
Spielberg is a great director, I don't particularly like his movies as I find them overly sentimental, but regardless he is one of the all time greats.
Hicken  +   403d ago
Washouts because they haven't done anything quality in quite a while.

Anyway, the point is that they're wrong.
wishingW3L  +   403d ago
what decent movies have they done in recent years? The awful trilogy of Star Wars about Anakin or that garbage War of the Worlds movie? lol
devwan  +   404d ago
They certainly haven't spent the day playing The Last Of Us as I have :-)
Eyeco  +   404d ago
the reality is, that's what most people think now, what we need to understand is that video games is still a relatively new medium, it's been mainstream for just over 3 decades, Movies weren't generally accepted as an art form until the 40's, Jazz music until the late 50's and that was a genre that was 60 years old at that point.

Yes people dismiss it now, but that's because they don't know any better, gaming as a medium is only getting bigger, and as more and more examples start to churn out like Limbo, Ico, Mass Effect, TLOU, Uncharted (which funny enough has better writing than anything Mr Lucas has thrown out), SOTC, Journey, Another World, MGS, Bioshock, the argument against games as art will only wear thin.

So let them dismiss it now, but I guarantee their attitude will change in the next 10 years time
JBallerX  +   404d ago
Not caring about characters??? Two words...Mass Effect
bujasem_89  +   404d ago
yes... you do not care at all about ellie and Joes... not like even a bit... i almost threw a brick at my head in the glass building!!
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Doctor_Freeman  +   403d ago
"They also stated that video games can’t tell stories and don’t create characters that we can care about".

Shows how much they know eh?
1Victor  +   403d ago
I Respect Their Opinions But I Disagree With Them.Btw Can Someone Remember From The Top Of The Head The Name Of The Hero In Jurassic Park Or Cared About To Tel Me The Name Of The Last Hero In A Lucas Film Now Can Someone Think Of The Names Of The 3 Characters Stuck In A Mansion Looking For The Survivors Of A Helicopter Crash
wannabe gamer  +   403d ago
here isa pic of Spielburg from E3 at the BATTLEFIELD 4 booth playing the game with a huge smile on his face pic.twitter.com/afnjzrI1hK
TAURUS-555  +   403d ago
lucas, spielberg...F" u
avengers1978  +   403d ago
they should go back to destroying there own franchises.... there pretty good at that
Shnazzyone  +   403d ago
So, Speilberg is producing the halo show for xbone? Another reason not to buy it.
MoveTheGlow  +   403d ago
Oh Spielberg, but I cried every time one of your Boom Blox went boom. And Lucas, you were sooooo involved with The Force Unleashed that I couldn't help but have such a deep connection with Baldy Bro Starkiller Bro Bro. Truly these were the pinnacles of gaming!

And who could forget that tear-jerking moment when... EA announced The Old Republic was free to play! *sob sob sob!*
Sharius  +   404d ago
yeah, and MS want Spielberg to make Halo TV and Lucas just lost his business to Disney, lol
Mr_Writer85  +   404d ago
He hasnt 'lost' his business to Disney he sold it for BILLIONS in cash and BILLIONs worth of shares in Disney.

However back on subject of 'They also stated that video games can’t tell stories and don’t create characters that we can care about'...

*Looks at The Phantom Menace....
wirapuru  +   403d ago
They surely didn't play any of Quantic Dream's games for starters, then.

I, for sure, remember way more of my Adventure games characters than my 2-hour most beloved films ones.
IcicleTrepan  +   403d ago
Let's also not forget that Lucas had his own video game studio that did make quite a few classic games over the years. He's not as unaware as you think he is.
fourOeightshark  +   404d ago
Something tells me they don't play games.
lol...
wannabe gamer  +   403d ago
This is funny causeat the BATTLEFIELD 4 booth playing the game with a huge smile on his face pic.twitter.com/afnjzrI1hK
Anthotis  +   404d ago
Very few movies and games create endearing characters these days.

Also, George Lucas is responsible for Revenge Of The Sith, which may as well have utilized cardboard cutouts rather than actors.
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brianunfried  +   404d ago
Grumblings from a couple of old farts.
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   404d ago
Thank you, now I have the whole picture stuck on my mind... Two old fellas in rocking chairs complaining about how stuff was back in their time, when a videogame character appears and both yell "get off my lawn!" and not in that cool Clint Eastwood style.
HaloStriker214  +   404d ago
I'm obviously not alone when I cried when Soap died in MW3, SORRY FOR CARING SPIELBERG AND LUCAS!
SexyGamerDude  +   404d ago
You care about the story in COD?
Pixel_Enemy  +   404d ago
Hahahaha that was funny.
kneon  +   404d ago
There's a story in COD?
grimmweisse  +   403d ago
I think I laughed more than I should have reading your comment:)
Alos88  +   404d ago
I guess if they can't stay relevant, they might as well try to bring down a medium they have precious little understanding of with them.
LightofDarkness  +   404d ago
George Lucas just criticized someone ELSE for their inability to tell a story or create characters that people care about? I'm sorry, you're right to say that about anyone else went right out the window after Episode 1, never mind the continuing spiral through Episodes 2 and 3. I didn't care about ANYONE in those movies and the stories were practically nonsensical, only there as a means of transitioning from one CGI action scene to the next. You know, like how BAD videogames tell their stories.
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   404d ago
Exactly, the only likeable guy there was Obi Wan and just on the first movie. Way to ruin a legacy... George Lucas should shut up and stop embarassing his own fans.
cleft5  +   404d ago
Two out of touch people, perfect to create collaborations with Microsoft.
wishingW3L  +   404d ago
so true! XD
Sinsarmor  +   404d ago
they obviously haven't played telltale's the walking dead
manny1up  +   404d ago
Totally agree with ya these two dinosaurs obviously haven't play WALKING DEAD , Journey , Bioshock 1 , Bioshock infinite , Mass Effect series , just to name a few .
SpinalRemains  +   404d ago
The whole idea of turning Halo into a show is just backwards.

Gamers love Halo because of the immersion. They get to play the game.

If gamers wanted to watch tv shows, they would watch tv shows.

This is a classic example of trying too hard, when you ha e absolute no idea what's going on.
lucidity  +   404d ago
George Lucas is an expert when it comes to creating compelling characters, after all.
wishingW3L  +   404d ago
compelling characters like JarJar Binks. ;)
MysticStrummer  +   404d ago
Yeah he was convinced people would love Jar Jar.

Insane.
ApolloTheBoss  +   404d ago
Those who haven't even played a videogame have no right to talk about them.
FullMetalTech  +   404d ago
I dont think they played a Quantum Dream game yet. Emotions run very high with those games.
wishingW3L  +   404d ago
I bet they haven't even played any decent games beside Halo, Mario Bros or Call of Duty to be saying stuff like this.
Muffins1223  +   404d ago
Halo has one of the largest universes for a sc-fi game...more than 10 books on it..also the best selling video game book series is halo too...
fsfsxii  +   404d ago
Speilberg and whoever that fatso is surely never played any video game before
And i bet they haven't played the Last of Us.
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SeraphimBlade  +   404d ago
Does Lucas even KNOW about Knights of the Old Republic?

To be fair, I think this article takes their discussion a bit out of context. Spielberg at least thinks games have potential for emotional story-telling. Too bad he's not looking very hard...
-Gespenst-  +   404d ago
I wouldn't be inclined to regard either of their opinions. They can't even do their own medium right.
longcat  +   404d ago
bioshock infinite has convinced me otherwise
josegallardo89  +   404d ago
I nearly cried in various parts of Dragon Quest V, and those were just sprites with no fancy 3D animation or anything. Pretty sad to hear what sounds like close-minded thinking, coming from 2 people who should be as open minded as possible. Back to the Future is still my favorite film, but story wise and from personal experience, video games tend to give me a deeper and more meaningful story experience.

Video games aside, if I wanted a good story, I would read a book, not watch cinematics that someone else conjured up for me. The best cinematics are those I Imagine or dream up myself.
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well the last of us comes out tomorrow, we'll see how your statements hold, spielberg and lucas
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Bakkies  +   404d ago
Just as little as I cared about anything/anybody in Episode I to III or Shia LaBeouf in "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull".

At least George Lucas produced the funniest comedy this decade: Red Tails.
ZombieGamerMan  +   404d ago
Really now you don't say Mr. Lucas & Spielberg would you mind going over to Irational Games & Naughty Dog and telling them exactly just that and while your at it could you bring a camera guy to upload the reaction on youtube.
BigBoss1964  +   404d ago
That's a laugh coming from the guys who made Kingdom of the crystal skull and Howard the duck
sephiroth420  +   404d ago
fuck these guys, that is all.
the_bebop  +   404d ago
<Sarcasm> So I obviously didn't care about any of the characters in the Kingdom Hearts series after playing all of them so far.<End Sarcasm>

By the way i am a major KH Fan.
mandf  +   404d ago
Rock on those games are some of the best ever to me. My wife came down the aisle to Dearly Beloved.
adventureghost124  +   403d ago
I have so much respect for that hats off to you and your wife good sir
thecurseddevil  +   404d ago
metal gear solid has a deeper universe and a deeper character depth than any of his movies.
PSjesus  +   404d ago
overreated old men each movie from Quinten beat all their works
thecurseddevil  +   404d ago
agreed.
gano  +   404d ago
So two old heads diss games, and ms hire one to make a show out of a game.
Like i said, there are no gamers in their world jus money.
And if thats what sells, show me the money.
r21  +   404d ago
Games hasn’t been able to tell stories and make consumers care about the characters?

Thats a load of bull right there! There are tons of games out there that make care bout them. TWD for example made me not only invest in the story but also not just Clementine and Lee's safety, but the whole group :L

Shame on film people on not giving games their due!
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