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Submitted by doctorstrange 494d ago | news

Amazon Holds PS4 vs Xbox One Vote, PS4 Winning By Embarrassingly Insane Ratio

Amazon, the world’s largest online retailer, has a huge multiplatform fanbase with allegiances to both parties, so their audience’s reaction to the Xbox One must be sending chills down Microsoft’s spine. - PSLS (E3, PS4, Xbox One)

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doctorstrange  +   495d ago | Well said
Just wow.
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Cam977  +   494d ago | Well said
My friend persuaded 5 or 6 friends to jump ship and join the SS Playstation 4.
JOIN THE REVOLUTION, PERSUADE XBOXERS TO JOIN PLAYSTATION.

Sony, welcome back to your true glory. We've not seen you this brilliant since the PS2 days.
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warewolfSS  +   494d ago | Well said
This might be the most disturbing comment ever on this site.r
kneon  +   494d ago | Funny
All my friends that currently have 360's have already abandoned ship, and I didn't even need to push them overboard :)
WolfOfDarkness  +   494d ago
OMG ! As expected , and I never though it will be that bad for Microsoft ?
Muerte2494  +   494d ago | Well said
Me and my ..
friend went yesterday and traded in our Xbox360's to reserve PS4.
T2  +   494d ago
you don't need to convince anyone.. My friend with only a 360 this gen, sent me the pre-order info on the ps4, before I even talked to him!
quenomamen  +   494d ago | Well said
Rise up Comrades ! rise up now ! For too long you have been told lie after lie, for far too long you have been told it is for your own good, that they know what is best for you. Now is the time to revolt !

Now is the time to show them you can make your own choices, yes my fellow gamers the Revolution will be fought, not out in a cold, blood soaked battlefield, but in out living rooms, and our hearts and minds ! Yay tho they have not listened to our voices ! The sound you make with your wallets shall be deafening !! Arise, arise !!!!
abzdine  +   494d ago
i really have to move my ass and pre-order one before i will regret it!!!
these numbers are scary, Sony have been in a dream world since february and now it's even bigger.
next Gamescom and then TGS! big things will be announced there and with all this situation around xbox japanese for sure aren't gonna support it!

Greatness awaits
4>1
Sevir  +   494d ago
Just preordered my PS4... walked i to a conversation
With someone who preordered the Xbox one, The sales rep at gamestop let it slip that of the 100 Xbox one and PS4 spots up for preordered, PS4 has 88, spots filled verses the 22 spots filled for MS's all in one entertainment system, I became spot number 89. People aren't happy with MS's 180° turn with it's fanbase, which is why Sony's conference resonated. Everyone got hyped for the halo 5 teaser for the Xbox one, but when MS said Nov 2013 at $499 for the Xbox one availability with all that DRM bs the tune was no clapping.
egidem  +   494d ago
Ladies and gentlemen,

This is pretty much what happens when you tell your fanbase:

"NO, I KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU, EVEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT"
oof46  +   494d ago
I play a lot of battlefield, and 4 of my friends on 360 have put in preorders for ps4. Microsoft...damage control...damage control...
DARK WITNESS  +   494d ago
I am all over it... I was an xbox fan but boy MS have gone out of their way to prove they don't care about me as a customer, they don't care about the 8 years I have been on xbox live.

it's all good. I know they don't owe me anything, but like wise we do not owe them anything. They are not providing the service I want anymore, it's as simple as that.
loulou  +   494d ago
ouch!!

microsoft you have less than 5 months to turn this around, or i have a feeling that it will be like the ps2 // xbox era all over again.

the stars are aligning, and microsofts horoscope doesn't read well.

i still have both pre-ordered and that is not going to change.
BattleAxe  +   494d ago
I know a couple people at work who are going with the PS4 this time around.

Things just aren't looking good for Microsoft in general:

- Windows 8 is not capturing peoples attention
- Windows Phones are not very popular
- Xbox One looks to be a flop
- Google Chrome and Firefox seem to be the browsers of choice with most people I talk to
- Open Office software is growing in popularity as is Google Docs
- Games for Windows Live is a complete failure
- Valve is helping to bring Linux to the forefront
- Microsoft Surface hasn't caught on with consumers
- Gmail is far more popular than Outlook
- the Zune was a failure

Balmer is wrecking Microsoft, and theres nothing that anyone can do about it lol

Developers Developers Developers Devlopers
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DOMination-  +   494d ago
I don't know if sony are back to their former glory as op suggests. I dont think their e3 was strong at all but ms is just gifting this to them with so many bad decisions and pr that sony doesn't need to be top of their game.
SignifiedSix91  +   494d ago
Meh. Both will be mine.
Gigaguy777  +   494d ago
Heh, I've persuaded most of my friends (about 6 or 7) to get an X1 as opposed to PS4. MS is in it's glory too, people are too busy focusing on the stuff that most likely doesn't affect them, than the console itself.
Tvensky  +   494d ago
those people who pre-ordered fail box obviously dont read news, and dont have fiends to talk to, and dont use internet... so we dont loose nothing this time around...

funny thing is.. if people who pre order xbox and dont use online/internet connection to a console.. will be pissed.. very!!!

so I predict most of them will return!!!!!
:D
Anarki  +   494d ago
Seriously, Microsoft must be trying to use this to get out of gaming because no one can be this retarded.
YNWA96  +   494d ago
What a bunch of suckers..... Not seen this since atari v commodore.... And back then not one person bought a game.... These people are upset because they might have to pay full price for a new game....
nosferatuzodd  +   494d ago
People don't really get it this is a nazi move by Microsoft
Look I'm a Sony fan but I'm not that blind if Sony did this crap I would stay away from them has well.

Forget about ps4 buy a PC instead or wii u just don't sopport this crap from Microsoft
remember this is bigger than ps4 vs Xbox this is about freedom if Microsoft succeeds then
Kiss you're asss goodbye with owning you're own game
showtimefolks  +   494d ago
Cam977

That's just wrong man, MS did say if you have no net connection buy a xbox360 so why are people buying ps4's when a perfectly great system in xbox360 could be playable offline. I swear you Sony fans are nuts

Goes on to amazon ordered a ps4

I am back, no MS I want to be able to play my system offline which is next gen and actually mores powerful than the one which is the weaker one

How many jokes could we come up about the one?

Now that was sarcasm

MS you deserve this and more, make sure you are wearing protection because you are in bd with a dirty white known as EA. one condom isn't enough also. Protect yourself before you catch something

EA/MS a match made in hell

EA we gonna get rid of online passes see we are nice guys
MS ok now to plan B lets charge people full price for used games instead of $9.99 for online passes
malol  +   494d ago
this feels like some sort of propaganda
lol
Ritsujun  +   494d ago
#burythebones
FightFans  +   494d ago
totally agree with you, i can't wait to get my hand on ps4.
Cueil  +   494d ago
the PS2 days were horrible... innovation had stalled for the most part and Sony purposely sabatoged Dreamcast forums and fan sites... it was really bad back then. Microsoft threw a wrench in their plans and forced them to stop messing around and more forward... to create a real online system and to look at the cloud. This industry has never done well in a compitionless environment.
gta2800  +   494d ago
My Friend was really interested in the Xbox and said he didn't know which one to get. I gave him the 411 on the DRM and online stuff and he went to go reserve a PS4 lol. It's much more serious that some people think.
aiBreeze  +   494d ago
Just gets better and better for Sony. Remember checking this article out about 15 hours ago and the votes were one 18k PS4 1k Xbone. Since then the PS4 has gained over 9000 votes while the Xbone couldn't even get 500
cedaridge  +   494d ago
I already got my ps4 reserve. Really just what was Microsoft thinkin?
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braydox21  +   494d ago
Thats right join the innovators not the immitators
Simmons93  +   494d ago
I am Xbox gamer never owned a ps3 but in all honestly everyone here are consumers, playstation actually listened to the consumers, we don't need convinced, anyone with half a brain can see that Sony learned we aren't pushovers. So based on Sonys approach in putting gamers first, I will happily make the move to ps4
TAURUS-555  +   494d ago
this is the right time to finally destroy MS days of anarchy.

cmon everybody you can do it join us ¡¡¡
knockknockannefrank  +   493d ago
just discussed with 4 of my friends over wings last night. ps4 is the console of choice and they all played xbox last gen.
OlgerO  +   494d ago
I think that the PS4 might even outsell in the US market while microsoft is putting all it efforts there and neglecting the rest of the world.
HammadTheBeast  +   494d ago
In Canada here, I'm honestly getting surprised at how much hype the PS4 has, even people who aren't gamers say its better and a lot of people are switching.
D-riders  +   494d ago
yeah if MS loses the market in the United States they are officially the next sega, just with more cash to burn, hehe
punisher99  +   494d ago
@OlgerO:
"I think that the PS4 might even outsell in the US market while microsoft is putting all it efforts there and neglecting the rest of the world. "

Its currently destroying the xbox1 here in the U.S. in pre orders.
Tyre  +   494d ago
Wow indeed! Just Wow. It speaks for itself. MS gets shown what people think of their restrictions.
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xxLuckyStrike  +   494d ago
You'd think these dummies would change it up b4 its to late. Baffled by the ill logic.
hot4play  +   494d ago
ALL GAMERS around the world united under one banner - the PlayStation Nation!

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marinelife9  +   494d ago
XBOX 360 > XBONE
sobekflakmonkey  +   494d ago
That's fair I guess, the xbox 360 did have an amazing start, it later tapered off and PS3 has been the go to console for the past 3-4 years, only people who never owned a 360 would say it has always sucked but the truth is, it didn't, when it was first launched it was actually pretty awesome, PGR, Dead Rising, Halo, the first Gears, it was actually pretty great, but then it just started to tank and I returned to the Playstation world and got a ps3, and I'm glad I did...
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Why o why  +   494d ago
@ monkey, agreed. They started the gen in a very different mode from how they're ending it. Front loaded. Sony far more consistent.
GnarlyCharlieOx  +   494d ago
360 started right? 54.2% fail rate because they rushed it out to get ahead of sony. Microsoft has always been about $$$ and not the consumer.

Part of those sales in the beginning are probably due to people having to buy multiple 360s. I'm on my 3rd right now actually, and its an elite with a custom fan. Had to make sure it wouldn't overheat...

They fucked up last gen too, just not enough to lose their dedicated fan boys like they did this year. Plus they had a year lead on sony which made a HUGE difference in the beginning even though it was a rushed out unfinished product.
madara0sama  +   494d ago
Playstation > XBOX > XBOX 360 > XBONE
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a_squirrel  +   494d ago
Ah, I remember the original Xbox. Lots of fun playing Halo and Halo 2 split-screen
nosferatuzodd  +   494d ago
wow indeed
VaporCell  +   494d ago
Lol I almost feel bad for MS. Anyways here's the link to the votes ! http://bit.ly/18t0tSa
D-riders  +   494d ago
whos its getting out of control
Cryptcuzz  +   494d ago
Thanks for the link, I had to log onto facebook again after not being logged in for 2 years now just to vote for the PS4 !!!
ElitaStorm  +   494d ago | Funny
best comment "Microsoft just got murdered, someone call an ambulance now! wii u wii u wii u wii u wii u... rofl"
Hanso  +   494d ago
loool
solidmic  +   494d ago
LOL!!!
patterson  +   494d ago
lol xD
kenshiro100  +   494d ago
Lmfao.
TheTwelve  +   494d ago
This really isn't surprising, based on what both sides have to offer.

What *is* surprising is that Microsoft is going to lose their dominance over North America (and England). Having the American market is always what kept them going last gen...that will be no more...

...and be $100 more expensive...

...and have restricting DRM that makes you feel as if you don't own your own games...

...and be 50%-66% less powerful than the PS4.

Amazing.

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monkey nuts  +   494d ago
Just a heads up: England is a part of the UK, not all of it. xD
YNWA96  +   494d ago
I do not think Sony will dominate, even overtake xbox in US.... Xbox is like NFL, MLB in US.....
ajax17  +   494d ago
Just added my PS4 vote. Almost 20x the Xbox One votes. It's almost sad... Almost.
stage88  +   494d ago
It's now:

20,000 to PS4
1,000 to Xbone

This is just embarrassing.
solidmic  +   494d ago
Actually, the embarrassing part is that there are still so many people, that don't seem to mind having their rights stripped away from them! Absolutely pathetic to have such low esteem for yourself!!!
ziggurcat  +   494d ago
those 1,000 votes? all greenpowerz...
Tyre  +   494d ago
@Solidmic above me. Yes, unbelievable isn't it? They like to take it up the PEEEP!
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Death  +   494d ago
What rights are being stripped? I'm amazed that so many don't actually know their rights in regards to software.
YNWA96  +   494d ago
These people are convinced Sony is not on the path to DRM.... They will not tell you, they are your friends. They are Gamers.... At least MS told you to your face.... Jeez.... This actually worked...
Saksoy  +   494d ago
When XBONE launches is there going to be anyone online to play with?
alb1899  +   494d ago
What will you spect?
Dee_91  +   494d ago
Remember Amazon gets affected by this used games thing too. Dont know what this has to do with anything but I thought I should mention it...
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NateCole  +   494d ago
It's not just Amazon.

It everywhere on the net. Facebook, Twitter, G+, the comments section on Yahoo, CNN etc etc.

It's a bloodbath.

What also hasn't help the x1 is the recent NSA spy scandal. Mainstream that didn't believe in spy theorist are now openly afraid of always online devices which the X1 is.
Enemy  +   494d ago
The numbers are even more embarrassing now lmao.
solar  +   494d ago
this might end up being the greatest collapse in gaming history
THE-COMMANDER  +   494d ago
Man! that's really a big difference!
amiga-man  +   494d ago
LOL at the disagrees.

are you people really saying a 20 to 1 difference isn't big?

Thats huge!!!!!
Syntax-Error  +   494d ago
Its official
I am now officially a PS4 owner. I just paid it off. Just wanna see what other launch titles are going to be available besides what we've seen. Every launch title is going to be for current gen so far. Gonna switch my Battlefield 4 preorder over to PS4
CRAIG667  +   494d ago
Its FAKE, yesterday the numbers for both consoles were significantly higher...
McGamer  +   494d ago
I hate to admit it, but I am a 8yr XBox fan who will be preordering the PS4 and buying an XBO this year.
CRAIG667  +   494d ago
LOL,THAT'S A BIG PAPER ROUND KID!
McGamer  +   490d ago
Craig667, you're an illiterate idiot. I said I was a 8yr Xbox fan, not a 8yr old fan. Learn to read before posting next time.
DJMarty  +   494d ago
27218 vs 1544 in PS4 favour, that crazy. If that repeated worldwide, that would be a huge margin

https://www.facebook.com/Am...

@LOGICWINS - It not just the Xbox Ones price that stinks, it's Microsofts policies. Thats whats turning Xbox fans to Playstation fans. No price drop will remedy this.....lol
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DJMarty  +   494d ago
I bet PS4 hits 30K before Xbox One hits 2.5K
Gameatholon  +   494d ago
360Degrees you totally remind me of this clip.

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RedHawkX  +   494d ago
only nerds and squares will have an xbox one. everyone else will have the ps4 make the right purchase guys. ps4 is where the online gaming will be
Shnooze  +   493d ago
I think you're wrong with that generalization.

Nerds are too smart to buy an Xbox One.
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Psychonaut  +   492d ago
No better way to say it, "Just wow" is perfect. Also, the fact Blu-Ray is a Sony proprietary so for each XboxOne title sold Sony makes a profit as well.
shikamaroooo  +   495d ago
The second coming of the PS2 dominance?
threefootwang  +   494d ago
Have you noticed that the PS4 even resembles the PS2 in design?

Like I obviously know it's different, but everytime I see the PS4 I can't help but think how close it looks to the PS2.

Can't wait to pick one up!!
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hooba93  +   494d ago
YES, thats what I thought when i first saw the system standing up (maybe its the blue?). it could be a sign of sony dominance to come this gen
flyingmunky  +   494d ago
ps2 X 2 = ps4
ps2 ^ 2 = ps4

Coincidence? I think it is the second coming of the gaming savior.
SIRHC13  +   494d ago
This is essentially the second coming of christ.
Excalibur  +   495d ago
Placed my vote in the PS4 column.
Sorry M$, I cannot support your anti-consumer surveillance system.
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LOGICWINS  +   494d ago
The fact that the Xbox One is number 2 at its current state is still scary though. Ud think it wouldn't even be in the top ten with all the negativity surrounding it.
claudionmc  +   494d ago
It was N1 before E3 presentation... I'm sure that Ps4 and PS4 not-guaranteed delivery version will overtake xbox one in less than a month
LOGICWINS  +   494d ago
Number #1, Number #2

It really doesn't matter. It seems both consoles will sell out at launch. And if MS feels like they need a little more "umph", they can drop the price of the Xbox One to $399 with the snap of a finger. Its not like they don't have the money to take that hit.

Who knows. Maybe that was their plan all along.

Anything can happen in 6 months, I'm not making any predictions on who will overtake who yet. Too early to tell.
NatureOfLogic  +   494d ago
@ LOGICWINS, So MS would drop their price and take a significant loss only so they can go head to head against the PS4 which clearly has the upper hand right now? If anything that would only just expedite MS's decision to departure from the consoles business. I believe right now that PS4 could have a higher price and still greatly outsale Xbox one. It's not all about price like some you believe. Does price matter? of course it does, but a matching price point with the PS4(currently in favor) won't win MS much compared to the losses they would be taking.
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LOGICWINS  +   494d ago
This is MS, not Sony. They can actually AFFORD to take a significant loss if that means preventing the loss of market share going into this generation. Sometimes you have to go through hell to get to heaven. MS can't let Sony pound them into a hole so deep that they can never come back from.
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dedicatedtogamers  +   494d ago
@ LOGICWINS

I don't see why it should matter that Xbox One is at #2. It's a new piece of technology. Wii-U was at #1 sales for a while.

I mean, Amazon doesn't sell hundreds of thousands of items at a time. Xbox One could be at #2 with a mere 1 million preorders. The bigger issues is the rumored supply constraints and manufacturing problems that the X1 is (supposedly) dealing with right now.
NatureOfLogic  +   494d ago
@ LOGICWINS, You do realise that MS is a corporation, and Xbox is only a games division within that corporation. Let's also not forget that most in that corporation(MS) are against the games division to begin with. So your're telling me that MS's games division will go to the rest of the corporation and say, "Hey, look guys, we want to take a major loss on Xbox one simply because we can AFFORD to, and fall back on all this corporation profit we've just made, only so we don't lose a few gamers". It makes no sense whatsoever.
Toon_Link  +   494d ago
Yeah I'm amazed after all the backlash people are still buying it. But at the same time it could be a lot of people trying to make a buck flipping the console if it does actually sell out during the holidays.
punisher99  +   494d ago
@LOGICWINS:
" they can drop the price of the Xbox One to $399 with the snap of a finger. Its not like they don't have the money to take that hit. "

Microsoft is not interested in taking no significant hit. MS sole interest is to get as much money out of people as they can.
NateCole  +   494d ago
Yes because MS still has a huge userbase.

So initially we will see sales to be close because there will still be millions of xbox fans willing to take the plunge but after them it will be bleak for MS while Sony will keep getting new and converted fanbase.
dcbronco  +   494d ago
@KingElixir

You're making the assumption that $399 would be sold at a loss for MS. Considering they use a cheaper GPU and much cheaper RAM(probably by close to $100 on the RAM alone) dropping to $399 would most likely be breaking even. Sony should be making a slight profit. But $399 would, at worse be a slight loss for MS. And considering all of the possibilities with their design for other revenue that PS4 can't do, that would be small change. $499 is about MS making a profit day one. And MS have more room to drop price over the long haul.

@Toon Link

Not everyone buys into all of the silly excuses. Some do their own thinking.
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Sevir  +   494d ago
LOL I love how people just throws around the fact that MS has money
but forgets that SONY on a WHOLE as an entertainment conclomerate business is not hurting or going out of Business! a company that has 13.7 billion dollars in cash and credit reserves isn't a cheap company in any comparison.

Yes Logic. MS can take a hit and drop the price of the XBOX one, but Sony can as well, given that SCE is apart of SONY Corp, They can tap into that nearly 14 billion dollars if things get dire for the whole company! Given how the PS brand was the only thing for 5 years making Sony profitable even after the PS3 depleted most of the profit made from the PS2 era, Sony still managed to launch a machine that does much of the same the Xbox One and comes in cheaper and more powerful.

If price wars is what you think MS can do, dont forget that Sony can do it too. They are valued quite high as a business and got plenty to fall back on in reserves to keep the company bringing in a profit. And Sony has more coming in with this Production cycle given the PS3 is making a profit and the PS4 isn't costing them much to produce.
YNWA96  +   494d ago
Sony is on its last knees! Samsung destroyed the TV market..... They are nothing in cell phone market, apple owns mp3 players, its only the PS for them now! This is it for them..... PS4 will save them no doubt.. But do not tell me Sony are as big as MS.... Not even close.... I have had all 3 playstations, do not get me wrong, not a fanboy, but people should be careful what they wish for. Having MS in the console business stimulated the industry, forced it forwards, made Sony step up, and they did, but if there was no competition, it would be bad. If Sony had no competition, you would not be getting your dream machine, dream E3 as they would not care, they would own you, tell you what is best for you. Be careful. Glad I have options... Pre ordered xbox1 already, was sold out day before my eb games officially supposed to take order... No luck on PS4 though.... Kinda glad.... Wife already mad over buying one as it is..... Life....
LeCreuset  +   494d ago
@Gman

If MS as competition is so great, why is it the biggest news coming out of E3 is that we will continue to be able to do what we could on previous systems with the PS4?
dcbronco  +   494d ago
Sevir you know Sony money comes with a huge helping of debt. And at extremely high interest rates because of their junk bond stock rating. Sony hasn't been selling assets because they could afford to throw away money. They sold their HQ because they badly needed money and couldn't get it from a bank.

You're the one throwing around numbers. Sony's financial problems are widely known and a few links can prove that. MS is far from having any money problem. Unless what to do with all the --cking cash is really a problem.
DJMarty  +   495d ago
No contest

4>1
CoolBeansRus  +   494d ago
They should have named it Xbox 180.
Relientk77  +   494d ago
Haha, good one
Moonman  +   495d ago
That is a landslide victory.
OllieBoy  +   494d ago
Wow.

MS is so screwed because Sony is about to put a gigantic dent into their US marketshare, the only market that gives a damn about the Xbox brand.
Supermax  +   494d ago
Wait till gamescon there's a big surprise comeing and that's when the boot goes to the throat of Microsoft.
despair  +   494d ago
I'm thinking NDs PS4 game (UC4 maybe?), Santa Monica's new game (hopefully not another GOW), Guerilla games non killzone PS4 game, and the numerous new games from the owned sony studios that we heard nothing about.
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Ilovetheps4  +   494d ago
I'm assuming ND's game will be at the VGA's. Uncharted 3 and The Last of Us were both announced at that event. We'll see what happens at Gamescom though. It'll be interesting to see.
OmniSlashPT  +   494d ago
Dont forget Media Molecule, those guys are geniuses! Besides, we might see somethig from Quantic Dream (besides tech demos) and a bit more of the Order. And ffs, show some TLG on TGS!!
despair  +   494d ago
Glad I preordered after the conference, luckily I got the launch day one :)
Mikelarry  +   494d ago
that image attached to the article is priceless

edit: just seen the numbers. microsoft you need to change gears FAST!!!!
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Mikelarry  +   494d ago
it has finally reached a thousand i think they can finally breath easy...... NOT
DxTrixterz  +   494d ago
Just imagine day at the M$ office after X1 release:
Guys why is PS4 selling more than our X1. We've done everything our partners,developers and publishers wanted. So why is this happening.
Guy in the back: Maybe because we completely forgot about our customers the gamers?
vitullo31  +   494d ago
but we listened to them! and delivered what they wanted!! right guys??
DxTrixterz  +   494d ago
People outside their office protesting: NO DRM,No online requirements,lower price.
Guy in the back: Is it me or did we implement all those things in our console?
Nonsense sooner or later they will buy our X1 no matter what.
A month later passed by at M$ office
Guys we have failed miserably. PS4 completely dominated our X1 sales. What are we going to do?
Guy in the back:Get rid of DRM,online requirements and lower the price.
But we can't do that because that will anger our partners,developers and publishers and we don't want that do we?
Guy in the back: But they won't buy our console will they huh? It's the customers the gamers that do and we completely ignored them.
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Morgue  +   494d ago
Well MS nailed the entertainment part of the console because this is hilarious.
chadboban  +   494d ago
Microsoft deserves this and every bit of negative backlash the they have gotten due to their insane anti-consumer policies.

I have never actively avoided a system or told someone to not purchase a system because we're all different and have different tastes in games and all consoles offer different experiences. But damn, unless microsoft changes it's policies this will be the first time that I ever advise anyone to not purchase a system. This is NOT about games, it is about our rights as consumers.
Ilovetheps4  +   494d ago
That's how I am. I don't try to bash the xbox 360 because it doesn't affect me if you buy a 360. But if the X1 is really successful, then it will affect me because Sony might implement the same policies in their next machine.
chadboban  +   494d ago
Agreed 100%. If it is successful, video game purchases will now become glorified rentals, where we the buyer don't actually own our on disk games. I don't want this to be the future of video games.
DaPrintz  +   494d ago
I have a feeling the X1 will do well in their 1st week....That is until the mainstream realizes what they just bought and what they can't do with the games they bought. How many times have you been to GameStop and some kid is trading games for more used games? Once the parents realize they got f@cked, it's over for Microsoft.
Gravitic  +   494d ago
Whilst this seems like a large gap, pre-orders are telling a different story at the moment. In-terms of it certainly not being a 1 to 18 gap.
BlackTar187  +   494d ago
what is the current Pre order #'s?
FITgamer  +   494d ago
PS4 #1&3 X1 #3&21
http://www.amazon.com/best-...
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Toon_Link  +   494d ago
When the ps3 launched I actually waited in line all night cause I remember how hard it was to find a 360 and I already preordered a wii. And would you believe every single person in line besides me was talking about all the money they were going to make off reselling on eBay. There were even people constantly checking eBay and watching preorder bids go up and up.

Wile I'm not saying everyone that preordered the One are flipping the console, I am saying there is money to be made if the console is in short demand during the holiday season and I got a feeling some people are willing to capitalize on people's need for the latest and greatest.
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DaPrintz  +   494d ago
You might be on to something. Reason why, look at where the X1 controller is on the list. Also, Forza is the only game on the list at #20.
rainslacker  +   494d ago
Not really sure what that has to do with anything. If they're buying it to flip it, then there would need to be a 2nd buyer to purchase the flipped item. Hence, demand is the same.

If it's like the Wii U though, where supply is not as limited as people thought it would be, then your theory holds weight. But all indicators are pointing to PS4 being a sell out item this holiday.

I've personally got two on preorder. One immediately after the conference through amazon(GameStop was closed and wanted to secure it). Then one a couple days later with my local gamestop(luckily they opened up more, was sold out the day after when I went in after work). I will probably sell the 2nd one to a friend that isn't able to secure a preorder for whatever reason, or they just don't do that kind of thing. I'll be nice and just charge them what I payed because I like my friends. If I can't do that, I'll post it on ebay, or return it.
Toon_Link  +   494d ago
@rainslacker I totally agree with you. I'm not trying to say people will or will not want the new consoles I'm only saying that there are people always looking to make a quick buck and all the preorders can't be totally for day 1 buyers so therefore preorders selling out isn't a great representation of the consoles demand.
vitullo31  +   494d ago
hold on am i reading this right??.. 17 THOUSAND to 9 hundred
insane
TrendyGamers  +   494d ago
Yep. And it looks like the margin is growing even wider.
josephayal  +   494d ago
Sony did a pretty good job
Rip-Ridah  +   494d ago
That actually means alot coming from you. Credit must be given where credit is due. I can respect that.
edonus  +   494d ago
I went on Amazon to check the consoles and see what came in the boxes. And I swear it was more sony supporters in the XBOX ONE section bashing it than in the sony section praising the Ps4.
It was like N4G in there, every other person is talking about privacy and kinect camera, others are trying to explain how you have to have internet and it check in all the time. You talk about shills these people are relentless. As of now you cant get any real information on the internet it has become dominated with too much sony support. You dont even get a feel of what the console actually does. They are the ones voting in these polls.

I say when the system hit the store and you arent fighting the illusion makers and over ranters the ONE will be fine.... it offers to much.
FunAndGun  +   494d ago
OH, now Sony supporters took over the whole internet!!?

Come on man, is it too hard to believe GAMERS in general are opposed to the Xbone and are standing up against it?
GraveLord  +   494d ago
I'm sure Xbox1 won't flop. PS4 will most likely be the lead platform next-gen though. The price alone is enough for most gamers to choose it.
T2  +   494d ago
you can get all the real information you want, you just go look at the actual xbox policies coming for the xbone. There have been numerous statements issued.
The real problem is there are people in serious denial who want "real information" about how good the xbone is... sorry bud, there isn't really that much out there. Gamers are pissed and xbone is getting curbstomped.

I would consider buying one for 299 and tape a picture of a middle finger over the kinect camera.
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GamersHeaven  +   494d ago
One is done and over with #dealwithit
rainslacker  +   494d ago
So they're shills for informing customers of the truth? Not like Amazon's product page discloses that information in a meaningful manner so people can make an informed decision on what they're buying.
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LeCreuset  +   494d ago
Just the opposite according to Xbox Chief Marketing and Strategy Officer Yusuf Mehdi. Apparently, they're informed core gamers exposing MS to the more ignorant mainstream audience.

"While the Internet is decidedly up in arms about the way the Xbox One handles game ownership and online check-ins, Mehdi said it was 'hard to say' what the larger reaction from the less attentive mainstream consumers would be.

"'I think it's fair to say there's a segment of consumers at this show in particular who really pay attention, who are very passionate about all aspects of gaming, and that we listen to closely. In a broader set of community, people don't pay attention to a lot of the details. We've seen it in the research, we've seen it in a lot of the data points.'"

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/...
Imalwaysright  +   494d ago
Cry me a river. Did you honestly believe that most consumers would gladly bendover for Halo and Mr. Gimmick? Unlike you, fanboy, We care more about our rights than we care about your god. The People have spoken

#dealwithit.
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Darkshader  +   494d ago
PS4 will sell more because of word of mouth and through the internet.
edonus  +   494d ago
The people have not spoken, the internet full of shills and loyalists have spoken.
Sony supporters love their rallies. Ya'll really think these companies make their products because they care about you. That was a big thing when I worked in banking, it was always important to make the customers think that they were listened to and we appreciate them and they make us. The reality is every bank does exactly what it wants the consumer has so little influence on what happens to them it should be criminal (but the banks lobby against it so it never is).
Have you ever thought why is sony doing the things they are doing? We all know that if they did go DRM they would stand to make lots of money. It would have given them control over more of the industry. There was serious benefits. Do you really think the people would have revolted...... look how easy they rolled over when they changed the MP policy, I mean you can say MS gamers roll over a long time ago but this isnt about MS.
I say sony is doing a good job controlling the message but that only lasts so long. Eventually the Ps4 is going to be going up against a very well designed feature heavy and powerful system. The numbers MS crunched about who and how many people have the proper internet service and who will really not support them due to the policies they implemented will be in play.

@Darkshader
Word of mouth is good advertising because its cheap. But the real advertising comes from TV and store ads. MS has Viacom as there partner they are going to be back on the todays show Ellen Oprah and have triple the presence of Sony. I could go on but i dont feel like teach economics to students that wont listen anyway.

The gist of what I am saying is it is far from over MS has bigger guns.
LeCreuset  +   494d ago
@edonus

"I could go on but i dont feel like teach economics to students that wont listen anyway."

How about English?
Imalwaysright  +   494d ago
Consumers are NOT stupid and aren't blinded by your god fanboy. We know what is best for us and you can cry all day long because it won't change a damn thing.

Also, do you know why Sony is getting away with their change in MP policy? Because gamers are RELIEVED that Sony hasn't implemented draconian policies. Compared to what MS is trying to implement, paying for MP is nothing.

Oh and your little rambling about consumers not holding power in this industry is hilarious. I could give you a few examples where gamers stood their ground and put some companies in their place but i'm just going to give you one date:1983.

The People have spoken.

#dealwithit.
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amiga-man  +   494d ago
I don't know about bigger guns but they certainly have bigger balls bringing out a machine with so many restrictions.

The trouble is having bigger balls makes it's harder for the consumer to to miss!!!

OOOOH I can feel the pain coming their way.
kenshiro100  +   494d ago
We have a conspirator here.
Hicken  +   494d ago
You don't really believe the things you say, do you?

You can't possibly be as blind and ignorant as you pretend to be.

That would require a level of blindness, a level of brainwashing, that defies belief.
talocaca  +   494d ago
Heard my co-workers who know little about tech saying that the new Xbox is crap....and one was showing the other the video of "how to share games on PS4"....

The battle is going mainstream!
GraveLord  +   494d ago
Even my Facebook friends who aren't even gamers know that the PS4 is better. Seems like everyone is going with Playstation this coming gen.

I'm glad I stuck with the PS3 this current-gen. I welcome any newcomers to the darkside :D
devwan  +   494d ago
Over 10 million views of that little video - it's done more to get the message out to the people than any amount of posting here or any forum could ever do.
rainslacker  +   494d ago
I have a couple 360 friends who I would consider fan boys, and they hate what MS is doing. They asked me about it after their reveal, because they don't really keep up with this stuff. I know at least one of them is getting a PS4, and the other will probably follow since they play games together.

So far at work it's been all PS4 among the gamers there. I won't deny I may have pushed that a bit, but most people asked me about it when this stuff started getting out there...which didn't actually take long.
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snittolo  +   494d ago
Both Bestbuy and Futureshop in canada are sold out of the pre orders for PS4 but both have stock for day one editions of xbox one.
killswitchmad  +   494d ago
Wow.

That is an insane result so far....

Personally I'm still so undecided, I love my 360 and I'm so invested in the M$ owned IP's that it's difficult to tear myself away but at the same time the steps M$ are taking to ensure we can't do things with the games we own are just dirty...

It's a shame because I REALLY REALLY want Killer Instinct but not if I have No friends to play it with!
The Meerkat  +   494d ago
That's the real problem for MS.
When all your friends have a PS4 you have to join them.

This gen was pretty much 50:50 so it wasn't that much of a problem for MS
Next gen could be more like 20:80 and then the devs go PS exclusive and the MS downward spiral continues.
Ilovetheps4  +   494d ago
I understand that it's tough when you have played mostly one companies games. But about Killer Instinct, just remember that it won't be like any other game. It's going to be a free game in which you have to buy all of your characters and stuff. If you want that sort of game, then by all means buy it. But I just wanted to remind you of that.
killswitchmad  +   494d ago
See that's not a problem for me as I can understand the decision behind it, most fighting enthusiasts tend to stick to just a couple of characters so in that respect the game could end up being very cheap...
BlackTar187  +   494d ago
Kill im a fighter gamer and my only problem is i like to test all the characters before settling. So hopefull by the time i get Xbone this game will have a retail copy for like $40 or something
Snookies12  +   494d ago
The problem with Killer Instinct is that it's not made by the same devs who did the others. It's not even being done by Rare. :\

It's being made by devs who have a pretty bad track record on the quality of their games. So I wouldn't put much faith in it if I were you. (This coming from a HUGE fan of Killer Instinct sadly.)
dboyman  +   494d ago
Plus only Jago is free to play on launch day. Everyone else — unspecified returning characters as well as original fighters — will cost money. Price is to-be-determined (of course).

So they are nickel and diming you to play that game. Yeah you get Killer Instinct game finally, but all the other fighters are extra dlc content. Its worse than Capcom and their dlc for games
CRAIG667  +   494d ago
Do you expect the whole game to be free or something?
dboyman  +   494d ago
@CRAIG667 No But least have more than just 1 fighter included. But I rather pay and have a complete game or semblance of a complete game.
Blankolf  +   494d ago
4 > 1
just become
17 > 1
knifefight  +   494d ago
Defeated by MATH! :O
RandomDude655  +   494d ago
MATH for the win!
Sharius  +   494d ago
this

http://i880.photobucket.com...

and

greatness await
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komp  +   494d ago
Nice to see this poll making it on its own article.
strigoi814  +   494d ago
I would be surprised to see VGchartz comparing sales of xbox360 and xb1..yup they will compete nkw head to head
Excalibur  +   494d ago
17926 to 1018 wow just wow.
Almost 18 to 1
waltercross  +   494d ago
PS4: 20146 to XBO: 1163 now!
GraveLord  +   494d ago
Greatness Awaits. I'm waiting for my PS4 to arrive at my doorstep. Than You Amazon.

(P.S. don't hurt the baby seals)
Snookies12  +   494d ago
I have to "than" Amazon as well. ;D

Lol, just messing with you. I can't wait for mine to arrive though. I of course selected two day shipping so that it can arrive on launch day. Now, I must simply play the waiting game...
dennett316  +   494d ago
UK tabloid The Sun held a similar poll, and the results were just as in favour of Sony. Polls on a few other gaming sites are saying the same sort of thing.
Tegrogg  +   494d ago
Okay after watching the press conference, reading articles, reading comments on many different sites, I cannot just sit back and not post a comment ...

It needs to be some sort of balance

In the beginning I was totally sold on the PS4 to be my gaming device, but that was before the Xb1 announcement . I told my friends that I would wait until I saw something from Xbox...

E3 is here the build up before E3 was that Microsoft failed, and all the other rumors with the Xbox1 failing at being a gaming system. The press conference started and I was blown away by Metal Gear, not because it was Metal Gear but because of the graphics , now as a previous Xbox 360 owner I felt comfortable with what the Xbox1 could do, I went out and Preordered the system, and I preordered Nba 2k14, Battlefield and Watch Dogs all coming out on launch day.. Yes the PS4 is cheaper I was planning on paying at least $500 anyways , I am 30 yrs old , I work , I have a budget for my video game habit, also the fact that I have been waiting for Pc gaming to come on console for years, now let's look at all Xbox or Xbone has to offer entertainment , cloud computing, Xbox live, and the Kinect...... Cloud computing interested me the most because of the possibilities that can be done with it ..

Let's look at the PS4 and why I was sold on purchasing it, the PS4 is more powerful, I did not own a PS3, and maybe PS4 gamers may differ from Xbox gamers, these are solid reasons for me to go out and pre order the PS4 in my mind right then it hit me, Xbone offers more, if Microsoft is right the risk I take dispite all the negative press will be the right choice, the only thing I would lose out on by not owning a PS4 will be the power of the PS4, I will be pissed off if the multiplatform games look very different on the PS4, but I will be mad but I can live with it..

Now let's touch on what the mobs are talking about , all of the lynching being done towards Microsoft DRM, and checking in 24 hrs etc , Sony could have gone the same route with these policies, and with both companies doing the same thing I wonder what would be the determine factor in buying either system ? ah that's right games, power to deliver the games, multiplayer support, and extras, so to everyone out there stop being followers and become a leader
nix  +   494d ago
and you said you are 30 years old... hmmmmm...
T2  +   494d ago
yeah, i have a budget for games too. Doesn't mean I am going to buy something with draconian policies that I don't need.
All you did was write a 4 paragraph statement about games. Will I miss Halo ? Sure, does Titanfall look good? yes it does... but the point is unless you have time to play EVERY game out there, there are always good games available to both systems. Killzone is fun, Halo is fun, Forza is fun, Driveclub looks good. So yes, it is about games, but games you own, and the best multiplats available. From the info we have received so far, it appears Ps4 multiplats will have an edge, but that remains to be seen. Graphics - same thing, it appears ps4 has an edge but we don't know for sure yet.
If you were a real "leader" you would gather all the relevant information and apply it, not just pat yourself on the back for going against the crowd. You would wait and see which system suits your style and really plays the best, if it was really about games.
Then you say "sony could have done the same thing"... and i realized it was another fanboy rant.... "sony will do the same", "sony could have done the same" , "wait for e3" , "wait till Launch".... etc......
awesomeperson  +   494d ago
"Cloud computing"
Are you saying you fell for those Microsoft buzzwords, which will mean basically nothing this generation, but instead convince people like you to buy their console?

I'm sure if "cloud computing" was a huge success Sony would be able to implement it aswell. We have seen Sony have been listening to the developers' ideas, and thus far, it is not likely they have been screaming the need for cloud computing.

If it is needed it will be implemented, I'm sure Sony has that figured out.

The rest of what you said that the Xbox One offers more of is pretty negligible, as both consoles do practically the same.
pimpschitz  +   494d ago
He's one of them. . . .

LYNCH HIM!!!

Just so you know dude, MGS5 is going to both consoles, those graphics are going to be on both consoles, it's just going to run smoother on PS. :)
Tegrogg  +   494d ago
Exactly , Dont know if it will run smoother , I'm fine with the graphics on the Mgs5 running on the xb1 , you missed the point I was making
rainslacker  +   494d ago
Ummm...Sony could have gone the same route...but they didn't. That's why MS is getting sent to the curb. It's a pretty significant part of this whole debate. They can both deliver the games...the question is, are people willing to accept what you have to put up with to game on the X1. Sony removed(or never had) that question from their console, so the choice is much easier to make.
Imalwaysright  +   494d ago
Oh look another one that joined in the past few days.....
Tegrogg  +   494d ago
I have been a fan of N4g for years , never felt like joining a conversation,
Excited2play  +   494d ago
These numbers are insane. Goes to show that treating your loyal customers like potential thieves and criminals isn't the best way to build a new platform.

Go figure.
Tyre  +   494d ago
@Excited2play Well said!, that is exactly what MS is doing...Bubble for you!
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FrigidDARKNESS  +   494d ago
Votes doesn$'t equal to sales.
paranoid1971  +   494d ago
Amazon uk best sellers,
1 ps4
2 The Lat Of Us
3 animal crossing
4 Xboxone
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/...
FunAndGun  +   494d ago
Anti-consumerism doesn't equal to sales either.
Relientk77  +   494d ago
This ^
Karpetburnz  +   494d ago
Well it definitely shows that more gamers are interested in the PS4, and PS4 is leading in Pre-orders on amazon which will count as sales when it's released.
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TiKiMaN1  +   494d ago
LeCreuset  +   494d ago
@TikiMaN1

Do you see how there are two versions of PS4 on that list? The standard edition and launch day edition at #2 and #3 respectively? Do you see how the launch edition is sold out? Now look at the only Xbone option on there. See how it says "day one edition"? Know what that means? PS4 launch edition was at #1 until it sold out. Now they are selling PS4's beyond the initial launch called the "standard edition." The standard edition has now outsold the launch edition. The standard edition alone is on course to outsell the Xbone, let alone if you add the sells from both PS4 editions together.
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SegataSanshiro  +   494d ago
Segata Sanshiro loves his xbox 360 to death as well as his ps3, but he will not stand for this absolute Xbone garbage
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