E3 2013: Why Did Bungie's 'Destiny' PS4 Presentation Keep Glitching Out? You'd Be Surprised Why...

FleshEatingZipper writes: "You can hear some pretty amazing things at E3 if you're in the right spot. For example, I got to overhear why Bungie's Destiny presentation at Sony's PlayStation conference kept having to resort to magic tricks to cover glitches in the game. This was especially troubling after the failure of Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed IV demo that continually froze on-stage. Only thing is: these weren't glitches. Let me explain what happened."

[Qrphe]

>dat format

At least they gave us a full-page link

http://www.flesheatingzippe...

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

Funny I never noticed hmmm.

[r21]

Same here. Seemed like a smooth reveal.

[SolidStoner]

I saw it live, and I remember that AC4 frozen... 100% sure!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

and then after a while destiny had small issues..

but I dont see any problem in that... 90% of press conferences have some issues...

just because beta game frozen on beta console, doesn't mean anything for us gamers... it just means that sony has to deal with this issue, and I think that is no problem for them..
I am not worrying about that one.. but it sure is some sort of problem...

[FrightfulActions]

Did anyone else pick up a small freeze when they used the 'Ghost'?

Other than that I didn't notice glitching, personally.

[Queasy]

I noticed a small freeze at the beginning when the second player joined the party but really nothing after.

[Garbanjo001]

The only thing I saw was that the guy in the back brought out the ghost, and the guy in front looked like he had never played the game before cause a) he wandered off into darkness, and b) he died during the demo.

It did slow down a little at the very beginning right after they met up to go inside the wall. But these games are still new and shit happens on stage. I know because i'm a musician. That's the only proof I have.

[Doctor_Freeman]

I noticed it, you can especially tell when they got quiet for a few seconds when the second player couldn't join and in the dark with the ghost like they didn't know what to do. Thankfully (happens sometimes with games) everything returned to normal and it turned out to be a great presentation.

[BattleAxe]

Its because the PS4 is too powerful for this game :D

[Hufandpuf]

Hopefully it wasn't the PS4 causing the glitching because the AC:Black Flag demo just glitched out and Destiny was acting the same way but ran fine afterward.

[Omar91]

Yea same here, I'm hoping that has to do with the game and can be ironed out and it has nothing to do with the ps4 hardware.

[lsujester]

Just in case, I'm not getting any new console on launch day. I got burned with a PS2 and a 360. If there are issues, I'll buy one after they get ironed out.

[NeoTribe]

Isujester, thats what insurance is for buddy.

[majiebeast]

Yeah both consoles had their glitches. BF4 didnt want to start on Xbone and some gameplay had no sound.

[Hufandpuf]

It was a video, not an on-stage demo though.

[Gildarts]

With BF4 it had sound issues. It was not the game nor the console. Just technical sound issues.

[Perjoss]

games that are still in production that have glitches?? this is getting out of control!!

[Enemy]

Lol are you serious? Do you know how many times they have to rehearse this stuff? If it was the PS4 they wouldn't even think about demoing it in public. As mentioned, it was an issue with the E3 monitors.

[Hufandpuf]

I just find it odd that the 2 out of 3 games they demoed had frame drops that's all.

and asking if I was kidding is insulting to me. I'm serious about this issue.

[Prophet-Gamer]

@Hufandpuf, it was audiovisual problems, same with MS on Crimson Dragon and BF4. There were also some glitches during EA and Ubisoft's conferences. This is was entirely a technical problem on whoever organizes E3, not the Xbox or PS4.

[psyxon]

learn how software works. it happens.

[Destrania]

When they played it live the next day at the Sony E3 floor presentation, it didn't freeze or glitch at all.

[wastedcells]

Who cares its still early and the system and game are not out or done yet.

[Haki1112]

But if it was the X1 people would be so quick and say it was the system. im buying a ps4 but these console wars makes me cringe sometimes

[DragonKnight]

X1 deserves any hate it gets though.

[wastedcells]

Did they even have a live demo at the Microsoft press conference. Sony has balls to do live gameplay demos. At e3 and at the Sony reveal.

[C-Thunder]

Seen plenty of live footage since then, this was just a glitch caused by something at the event.

[eagle21]

exactly....

[Redrever]

on page 3

basically i could see everything that was going on in the video they show of Destiny even in the dark areas?

what was this guys point exactally

[SolidDuck]

Stuff like this has happened at e3's before. It doesn't mean there's a problem with ps4 or xbox1. The black flag one was pretty bad tho.

[horndog]

I also noticed assasins creed a little slugish during ps3's conference.

[ginsunuva]

Ac4 was freezing, but I didn't see anything with destiny.

[hazelamy]

these games are still six months from launch, so it'd be understandable if there were bugs.

same for the demo at the ms event.
i wouldn't attach too much significance to them.

[DJMarty]

Neither the PS4 or X1 were showing games on final devkit hardware, final devkit hardware for both systems are months off.

Final devkit hardware ships around the time actual final retail hardware is ready.

[Krosis]

I wonder what the comments would be like if it were the Xbox One the demo glitched on...lol
Mountain out of a molehill--this stuff happens.

[SignifiedSix91]

It would have been the next big thing on the internet if it was the X1.

[ThatsGaming]

I don't know why Bungie went solo.

The destiny mechanics seemed to be exactly the same as Halo...

Watching the walk of the character was exactly like halo, the way the gamer through grenades seemed exactly like halo, zooming was halo-like, this game just felt halo-ish while I watched it.

I expected more from Bungie.

I was much more impressed with Titanfall. While it was obviously CoD MW game mechanics, the addition of mechs made it just crazy awesome!

I am looking forward to both games, but with Bungie I see it as more of the Bungie same, while I think Respawn really added something nice to their game style.

[Atomicjuicer]

Too bad they aimed Titanfall at the x-coffin.

Ill probably pick it up on 360 or PC at some point because it definitely looked sweet - but there is no way in hell I'm ever touching that piece of **** "console" abomination.

[C-Thunder]

Don't worry, it'll come to PS4. After this showing, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't already start the port. No way EA doesn't capitalize on what will easily be a larger install base on the PS4.

[hazelamy]

maybe Bungie wanted to work on something they owned.

they worked on the Halo series for a decade, but in the end, ms owns it.

they started making the original Halo before ms bought them.

good luck to em i say, being like Halo isn't such a bad thing, not when you consider how good the Halo games are.

[ThatsGaming]

Its not bad, its just disappointing because they always talked about great visions of new games and new directions...

To come out with a Halo clone is kind of anti-climatic for me...

[CRASHBASHUK]

i would say AC4 was a lot worse for Glitching out tbh

[Soc5]

you know you need traffic when that's your article, yikes never going back there again

[SKUD]

Best part was the ass creed glitch. Forcing them to move on to the next game.

[meday354]

Its not the finish product so why is this such abig deal? This is why the gaming industry is falling apart.

[Martywren]

Bungie has work with sony first before MS, Bungie are some damn good devs, im looking forward too destiny i hope sony get exclusive dlc like killzone weapons in destiny.

[Belking]

I'm sure MS doesn't mind because they still own a stake in Bungie, so bring on that money...lol

[Martywren]

Sony got stake in SE so.

[hellvaguy]

MS has never owned stock in Bungie. I read they did buy out the rights from the Halo series from them. What's your source on that info?

[CouldHaveYelledUiiW]

Destiny looks great-

It seperates itself from the sea of Futuristic FPS's.

I will be watching the reviews.
Love the RPG elements too,

[jacksons98]

I noticed but just attributed it to games probably being in Alpha or beta stages along with new systems.
This is uncharted territory for everyone around so not a big deal

[isyourhouseonfire]

Destiny should've been developed on the XBOX ONE, which has a proven code platform behind it. The PS4 is rumored to be extremely difficult to develop for and I have a feeling we'll be seeing constant glitching for years to come.

[GraveLord]

Nope. PS4 is the easiest platform to develop for. The glitches you saw on stage were purely audio/visual. They have nothing to do with the game or the PS4 itself.

Go back under your bridge.

[isyourhouseonfire]

Insiders have already said the glitches were console issues and completely surprised Sony.

[PunisherRevenge]

Nope... It was said that the PS4 was easier to develop for than the PS3. They never said it was easier than the X1.

[hellvaguy]

How wud either system be "easier to develop for" when they r using the exact same x86 cpu (possibility tweaked very slightly different)?

Everything we've been told is that we lost all BC because of how easy x86 will be to make multiplatforms for the pc, one, and ps4.

[jollygoodchap8]

This isn't 2006.

[isyourhouseonfire]

That's exactly my point. The PS3 fooled everyone in 2006 and look how the walls crumbled. Now its 2013 and people are making the same mistake with the PS4.

[WickedLester]

Um yeah I don't know what "sources" you are reading but the PS4 is DEFINITELY not difficult to program for. Do your research before you come on here on post spam.

[Flames76]

Its simple to answer it was running on the PS4.Damn didnt everyone see watch dog freezing while they was showing it on the PS4?Also assassin's creed hell it was so bad it froze at the end.All 3 of those games are the are the only ones they played on stage and every game could barely run.That's why all the other trailers they showed we CG.yea not to impressed with the PS4 right now.I see why they had to put a price tag of $399 on it

[GraveLord]

It's not a PS4 problem. It's a problem with the dozens of HDTVs they had up there. It's an audio/video input problem, not an overheating PS4 or glitchy game problem. This much is obvious.

An incmplete game wouldn't just freeze up like that. It would have seizures and lag and be unresponsive. That's not what we saw.

We saw the same thing at Microsofts event with the Battlefield 4 presentation.

[hellvaguy]

Sounds like a lot of speculation and why didnt everything glitch? Doesn't really fit, imo.

Anyways, it is a demo so I wouldn't be too critical.

[andibandit]

I dont see how the number of hdtv's is related to the framrate drops we saw

[Jazz4108]

Thats not true ms battlefield demo just didnt start when it was supposed to and it was only a video not a demo. Ms demoed alot of mext gen games as you could see them playing n the xboxone controler especily Ryse which had a ton of stuff going on and glitches were not one of them. The only other issue was another video not running on the one for crimson had no sound.

[cell989]

these glitches were not PS4 bound they were just video technical problems

[Tyre]

We both get disagrees? there are still a few people who cannot read in here? The article clearly explains why these glitches were not related to the hardware...typical isn't it Cell989?

[cell989]

I just dont get man, people in denial are impressive

[GiantEnemyCrab]

The person running the video feed kept falling asleep with all the Vita talk?

[Tyre]

Great to hear the freezing wasn't a hardware issue with the PS4. I'm stoked for this game! Looks awesome!

[Kran]

OK Next question.

What happened with Assassin's Creed 4?

Why did that start lagging?

[Tyre]

@Kran Remember the gameplay demo Patrice & Jade showed at E3 with Assassin's Creed 1 running on Xbox360? It froze/glitched and all other sorts of other things happened that were not expected. It happens just because the product isn't yet finished. The AC4 has been ported to PS4 but it essentially is the version for current gen with a few graphical upgrades. It probably had trouble with the engine running the game on nextgen.

[Kran]

Kinda odd both happened at the same event o.O

[ThyMagicSword]

Every demo is glitchy, you Genius. They should make an advise of the demo being glitchy before starting the game presentation, that's for sure. C'mon, the game will be released in 2014 for Ps4, it has one year time to Change graphically and from a technical view. Even PC's with GTX 690 reacts choppy when you enable supersampling of the witcher 2 for example, Guild Wars 2 and much more. Why should you think that a Ps4 with almost PC architekture will not be choppy? It depends on the game engine and optimisation of it too. Look at the creation engine of skyrim on consoles, it is less choppy than Oblivion was. Install 100 Mods+ on PC and you will not be able to Play it anymore without issues and choppiness...

[_LarZen_]

Who cares...it's not going to be like that when we the consumers gets our hands on it...

[BitbyDeath]

The whole conference was glitching for me so i didn't notice it. Yay internet. :-|

[Xenomorph]

I never play the E3 presentation blame game. Xbone, PS4, or WiiU regardless. You are on a massive stage with a huge multi monitor demoing games that have not yet been fully released. Not to mention over heating in the large convention center, and matching the camera stream.

It happens, as long as the final products are polished and awesome there should be no issues.

Might I add here as a Killzone fanboy, when they detailed their demo it ran flawlessly.

[mochachino]

I just assumed MS sabotage.

[5thRegime]

Wow!! Guys don't be search nerds and understand what was going at the time, not ecerything is new none of the games were complete there's still tweaking that has to be done, obviously.