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Submitted by jaredhart 476d ago | article

Sony Throws GameStop a Bone -- but Will It Be Enough?

GameStop appears initially to have caught a break with Sony.

Unlike Microsoft's restrictive Xbox One, where publishers will have more say in the way that their games are or are not able to be transferred between players, Sony made it a point on Monday night to emphasize that PS4 buyers will be able to trade in, sell, or lend their disc-based games. (GameStop, PS4)

Conan-O-Brady  +   476d ago
@ 1:30 in the video, What the hell? "The PS3 has been a forgotten console that allowed the Xbox 360 to overrun the market, and the Wii had the small little lower end family based market."

He also thinks that devs are gonna flock to MS's DRM machine thus forcing gamers to do the same. As if we can't influence devs by purchasing a DRM free console and saying this is where we'll be if you want us to purchase your games you'll follow us and not the other way around.

I think this guy may be high or something.... SMFH

# @adam_orth, Sony dealt with it...lol
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phantomexe  +   476d ago
really he is on something. There is 0 chance i will ever pick up and xbox unless all the crap which i won't repeat because i think everyone knows now, is left out.
dedicatedtogamers  +   476d ago
Regarding Xbox One, something people are overlooking is the employee. The lowly, minimum wage or barely-above minimum wage employee who has to sell this thing and who has to deal with customers.

Let's consider four of the biggest retail chains where the Xbox One will be sold: Target, Wal-Mart, Gamestop, and Best Buy. In all four of those chains, there's a separate department for games (except Gamestop, which is the whole store). You think that minimum-wage employee is going to recommend the Xbox One when he/she gets yelled at - daily - by an irate customer that screams "my new Xbox doesn't play my 360 games" and "my new Xbox won't work because my internet is down" and "I bought this game for my new Xbox but now I can't play it on my friend's console" and "my brother in law told me I can't rent games for this system so I want to return it", etc. etc.

You think that employee is going to feel any sense of loyalty to the Xbox One? Hell no. Give it two weeks. After the first two weeks after launch, these employees are going to be sick and tired of hearing the complaints, so they'll quietly recommend (when their boss isn't watching) that the person buys a 360 or a PS4 or a Wii-U, ANYthing but an Xbox One, because they know the person is just going to come back and yell at them.

I remember when Gamestop sold refurbished 360s (during the RRoD fiasco) and my store manager simply told us to stop selling refurbished 360s because they didn't work, they'd come back within a week, and it would only piss off the customer. Similar situation.
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forcefullpower  +   476d ago
@dtg you are bang on the money. Word of mouth around my area in the uk is that no one will touch it. I have come across a few people that were going to get it but they didn't know about all the restrictions. They are no longer are buying them and they are also telling everyone else. Its going round like wild fire at the moment not to buy the new xbox.

By the end of the year I think those pre orders are going to diminish.
jaredhart  +   476d ago
These aren't gamers and they are looking at things from a US centric view. Still really bad with the facts though.
seanpitt23  +   476d ago
The only people that will buy the x1 will be the rich who will buy both consoles.
Narutone66  +   476d ago
Looking at the link will give you a hint at what they are talking about.
DragonPs4  +   476d ago
as much as I dislike the Wii it was and is market leader for current gen.
Agent_hitman  +   476d ago
Duke you're drunk go home!.. You really don't know what you're saying..
MikeyDucati1  +   476d ago
Didn't read article but came to say, I don't shop at Gamestop anyway. I rather go online and check out amazon or some local shop around the way. Gamestop is the last place I support.
JohnS1313  +   476d ago
Now Gamestop can return the favor. This current generation most Gamestop employees seemed to push the 360 on their customers. Now they can push the PS4 on everyone. That at least makes sense since the PS4 will have more games they can sell used.

I can't believe the crap that loser said on the video. I guess Motley Fool is sponsored by Microsoft. What a dope.
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gino9  +   476d ago
When they say no DRM their talking about first parties. Trenton clearly said its up to the publisher and their relationship with the consumer. In a nutshell if the third parties say fuck u we get DRM on PS4 too. The question he was asked was no about online passes. Sometimes we hear what we want to hear.
LeCreuset  +   476d ago
Sometimes YOU hear what YOU want to hear. What part of the same as on PS3 don't you get?
rainslacker  +   475d ago
So far from what I've seen from both Ubisoft, and surprisingly EA...the two biggest publishers...is that they are distancing themselves from this whole debate. Activision has never really gone the way of heavy DRM in consoles. And most of the smaller publishers never bothered with it at all.

Publishers are throwing MS under a bus, the same way MS did to them by passing the buck, saying publishers could opt-out of some of their policies.

Some of these publishers may like the what MS is doing...we can only speculate until they say otherwise...but for the foreseeable future I think they will avoid heavy DRM like the plague, or at least see how well X1 is adopted before making a decision.
Malice-Flare  +   476d ago
hahahaha...
GameStop doesn't need the "bone," XB1 will allow you to trade/sell used games to "authorized" retailers. guess who that is?

the only difference between XB1 used games and PS4 used games is that PS4 used games are more profitable to them...
Viper7  +   476d ago
Actually GameStop and other similar retailers could do pretty dirty stuff for Xbox One and the publishers supporting the platform.

They could simply just say no.
It's not like they are forced to sell stuff that could be harmful for their business, or they could dance around the casual consumers (majority of gamers) and heavily affect their decisions in many ways like prices, deals and staff recommendations.
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McScroggz  +   476d ago
fool.com is pretty appropriate.
vikingland1  +   476d ago
The problem is you buy a game for 60$ then sell it for 30$ a week later after you beat it or just don't like it. Then Gamestop sells it for 54$ and they make a huge profit but they don't share the profit with the developers not even 1%. It makes me wonder if they would have shared if we would even be talking about DRM and such things.
LeCreuset  +   476d ago
Why should they have to share anything with the developers after the first sell? Physical retailers don't even make enough off of the first sell to stay in business. If the publishers had SHARED from the get go the used game market wouldn't be a necessity for the survival of retailers.

And why are we even talking about what percentage (or lack thereof) of a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. hand sell a retailer shares with developers? Who cares? They got their cut. Try making a product with longevity people feel is worth the money and won't be quick to trade in. If it's anything you should be up in arms about, it's that the customer isn't getting a better deal on trading in and buying used games. When did we become a bunch of suckers that are trained to look out for the interests of some business above our own?
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vikingland1  +   476d ago
I understand what you are saying and you have made your points. Good reply ;)
Conan-O-Brady  +   475d ago
Glad to know that there are some people that understand the first sale doctrine and recognize that MS's new console is trying to completely bypass it.
You still have people out there who will try to say that we don't own our games after we've purchased them. $60 for a new game can be considered a rental fee If all we're paying for is the right to play a game when we purchase it. I for one am not OK with that.
rainslacker  +   475d ago
Why is that a problem? If I went and sold that game on my own, for say $50, would I have not made a "profit" of $50? Am I required to send a portion of that money to the publisher now because the publisher didn't get anything from my return?

Tell me why it's required that GameStop give more for trade ins? Tell me why it's required that GameStop sell it for less. They are as free to do with their property as we are. We are as free not to buy that used copy for $54 as they are within their rights to try and sell it for that much. If you don't like their trade policies, trade-in price, or sell price for used games don't use them, simple as that. It's apparent that plenty of people are OK using their service, despite the better choices out there. GameStop's policies aren't consumer friendly, but they don't violate any consumer rights.
medman  +   475d ago
Gamestop is getting their comeuppance for pushing the 360 so hard. What did it get them? A vicious kick, right in the scrotum from a grateful Microsoft. Enjoy Gamestop. Maybe they will not even bother to sell the Xbox One. Ban it the way Microsoft is attempting to ban used games.

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