Will consumers be able to overlook the outlandish restrictions Microsoft is planning on imposing?
Consumers don't know what DRM means, but they surely know what "you can't trade in your game" and "please wait 15 minutes while we install" and "Error: please reconnect to the server to continue your game" mean. All of this anger online is just a blip compared to the resulting outrage when real people - especially unexpecting people - buy this thing, bring it into their homes, and realize how restrictive it is.
A lot of people think it means "Dont Resent Microsoft"
That'll be hilarious. They deserve it though. I'm sorry, but if they haven't conducted some research then they deserve all they get - it's just like me buying a DVD without a player - just like the XBONE needs internet to play. Come launch this will be hilarious, the outcry from unsuspecting parents who bought their 9 year old the XBONE for their COD child. They get all they deserve. Playstation's slogan really does reflect what they do. Where the XBONE could mutate gaming, the PS4 preserves the traditional games console. Long Live Play
Edonus, you are an idiot and no doubt about it that you're a shill.
@edonus We saw a lot of uninformed consumers care about SimCity when DRM prevented them from playing the game. It wasn't actually DRM in the way MS was talking about, but it's the same principle. I believe EA got a handle on that now, but the first few weeks had a huge number of disappointed customers saying they didn't know anything about the online requirement. These were average consumers. People who just expected it to work based on their prior experiences with the series. These are the same kinds of people that dedicated is talking about. When these people get home and don't hook up the internet right away, or don't have it at all...boom...disappointment they can't play their game. When these people go to trade in their game for a new game, they either get crap trade in values, or can't do it all....boom...disappointment they're stuck with something they don't want or don't get enough to buy their next game. When their internet goes out for a couple days, or they decide not to pay their bill because of something...24 hours later...boom disappointed they can't play their game. When they ask their friend to borrow a game...boom...disappointed they can't because their friend informs them that they're unwilling to trade because of the lock out. I could go on about all the disappointing scenarios that could play out here. One or two times probably would go unnoticed, but if you multiply that to a large install base of uninformed consumers, things get said, people get upset, and the disappointed "vocal majority" comes out in waves to let that disappointment known. This is the point that dedicated is trying to make. We, right now, are a hugely vocal minority, but when the majority start to get disappointed it's going to be worse. We can only hope that during that time they don't blame the whole industry, and put that resentment and disappointment where it truly lies, and that's with MS.
M$ is not a company that has gaming at its heart, it is an ends to a means they want to control the living room and do not care what it takes to do so. Unfortunately they have become arrogant and totally lost touch with what console gaming is about and for some reason thought their usual spin, advertising and a few games would be enough for users to just accept any anti consumer nonsense they put forward, thankfully it seems most gamers seem to have demanded better apart from a few fanboys that try to defend M$ actions. For the sake of gaming just say no and keep gaming in the hands of gamers.
funny thing is, my friend said to me ' I want to get the new xbox one' I Told her about the restrictions, 24 hours DRM and sh*t and not being able to lend games now she wants a ps4
tell your friend good move. PS4 FTW:)
Yes. they went full retard. you never go full retard.
They're only concerned with a specific segment of the market. Just have to wait to see how badly that effects them. Or not.
M$ doesn't seem to think so, i wonder how long they'll keep going.
my concern is this, as a gamer i want both to succeed and will enjoy both since wii u just inst happening for me right now. I see this drm thing in a few ways, as a older guy i simply dont care as i dont share much, rent or buy used and being able to share with 10 people makes up for all of that but I can see many many devs secretly smiling and hoping this works out for MS and I also feel they are pushing for this silently and in turn might favor MS over sony for doing this for the industry and in turn give them more exclusives, dlc and timed exclusives and maybe even better versions as a big thank you, its a plus but also a big minus if that happens as i dont wanna go through another whole gen were ps4 multi games are not as good as xbox one was even though now they are using the same gfx cards
Its a conspiracy, Microsoft wanted to bring about the glory days of the 90s so they deliberately sabotaged their Xbox brand so that everyone goes back to playing games on Windows.
There is only one thing I'm against with the new Xbox, thats Kinect.. take that away & that would drop the price lower than the PS4 & with the great titles they've shown I wouldn't have a problem. I'm always online at all times & buy all my games through Steam Origin or Uplay, I admit they are a hell of a lot cheaper than the console games, but its not the DRM that I'm pissed about, its the Kinect, I had one go, looked a twat jumping around, never again, so why box it & force it on me...
"would drop the price lower than the PS4" Why so sure? It's just a crappy camera. Playstation 4 will destroy the XBONE.
Playstation 4 will destroy the XBONE grow up. It stands to reason that the kinect camera is what's pushing the price up. Bye the way im typing this as im watching the opening scene in TLOU, so im no fanatic, ive got all major consoles & a pc, im just stating a fact that the kinect camera is pushing up the price & id rather not have one, is that ok.
No but these articles have!
Get used to it. This is the equivalent of all the Sony has no games articles we had to endure on here.
damn i remember them days. n4g at the time was full of xbox fanboys
Damn.. I wish MS didn't have Halo... the only reason for me to get an Xbox one at this point...
For me it is Forza, but I will not be getting Forza 5 in hope Microsoft will come to its senses and go back to the old ways. I wont be getting the PS4 either until Gran Turismo 7 is released or some godly game by Naughty Dog is announced.
If MS have shown us what they think are their best bits, what are the bad bits they aren't telling us about? I'll wait 24 months then get an X1 at a reduced price to play Halo and maybe Gears. But all my main gaming and mutiplatform games will be on my PS4.
"If MS have shown us what they think are their best bits, what are the bad bits they aren't telling us about? " Agree, a very good question. bubbles.
MS has gone too far with everything not named Microsoft Office
Microsoft going too far is an EPIC understatement... those guys are in completely uncharted territory... lost forever... Reminds me of the scene of jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Carribean 3 where he is lost and going bananas...
Honestly! what in the world were they thinking with all those restrictions??? is it a piracy issue? trying to somehow get more $??? I dont get it but I think this will backfire.
Wonder if the small friendly crabs will come to rescue him?
Not at all, In my opinion they release a fine product, with a lot of game support, and a couple of minor restrictions, that are by no means in my way. I only salute the direction the industry goes, with the rising budgets they can do two things only, tone down second hand trading, hoping that more people will buy retail, or increase the price of the games. If the game industry fails to decrease the size of the second hand market, we will be looking at a lot more company's going bust, and or game prices being increased by 10 to 20 dollars/euro's per game.
@ Foxgod "minor restrictions" - seriously? Microsoft's current policies ensure that you own nothing. Your ability to game and what you do with that game are entirely controlled by M$. Their DRM ensures that. And the same goes for the console itself. You say M$ offers "lot of game support". We're talking about a company that yanked all original Xbox support the minute the 360 rolled out the door. Should they repeat that with the Xbone's successor, you could be stuck with a console that doesn't even work - rendering your entire collection unplayable. Outrageous, sure. But M$ has made it clear they really don't care. Your need for consumerism is apparently stronger than your need to protect your rights as a consumer.
Nonsense, Its up to my isp whether my internet works or not, not up to MS. MS provides the service, and they keep it running as its their source of income. My isp keeps my internet running, and i am free to game whenever i like, and nobody is controlling it. I buy the game, play the game, if my internet is down, MS isnt the one to blame. When i am done with the game i can put it on a shelf, or sell it to somebody on my friends list, big deal. By the time the Xb2 and Ps5 are out, i can always keep the old console if i wanna keep playing old games, or get a cheap mini XB1 by then. And i dont really care about supporting old games or not. I leave that to the emulation scene to make them playable again someday.
Minor restrictions LOL, Only you foxgod would call them minor but even if they were which they certainly are not, why would you be happy to be restricted? The question is are you a Fanboy or on M$ payroll? I'm going for the latter.
"Minor Restrictions" You can't fool me. I know you're on MS payroll.
There's a third choice, Foxgod... Develop better products more efficiently. Reduce budgets. Increase quality. Streamline development. That is how you make your company a success, not by trying to force things down customer's throats.