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Submitted by CarlosX360 435d ago | opinion piece

I don’t think Microsoft can get away with the $499 price tag

CarlosX360 Writes: "Microsoft unveiled the Xbox One with an 'OMG, Go Home, Xbox' price at $499. I think Microsoft has it all wrong, and I believe that Microsoft can't get away with the price that they've set for Xbox One, like Sony's PlayStation 3 did." (E3, Microsoft, PS4, Xbox One)

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FrigidDARKNESS  +   436d ago
At 499.00 you get Microsoft is offering more. An improvrd Kinect sensor Windows 8 Kernel a web brwser and DVR. ...that is one hell of a package.
CarlosX360  +   436d ago
But, but, my cable company provides me with a DVR!
FrigidDARKNESS  +   436d ago
Well it your whole home entertainment improves when you plug in the xb1 into your cable box. You will never hav to pick up a tv remote again and worry about batteries and pets cheeing on it.
kneon  +   435d ago
My cable box already has a fancy onscreen guide that is also accessible from a tablet. I can also change channels from the tablets and stream TV to tablets and PCs.

I seem to already be getting a much better TV experience than what Microsoft is trying to pawn off on people. And cable boxes will just continue to add even more features in the future.
xHeavYx  +   435d ago
I can imagine those 12 year olds COD fanboys getting upset when their mother yells "Xbox off" when it's past bedtime.
BTW, how lazy do you have to be not to pick up the TV remote? You'll still be picking up the Xbox controller to play, won't you?
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irepbtown  +   435d ago
I have Virgin Media... TV/Movies is sorted.
There are 3 laptops, one computer and a Tablet in the house... Web browsing sorted.
Heck, I even have LoveFilm for watching movies through PS3/Tablet/Laptops/Computer!!!

Why do I need to pay £429.99 for something I already have?

I'm getting a PS4 for Gaming.

PS: I save £80 for getting PS4 instead of X1, I can get a plane ticket for that price.
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Boody-Bandit  +   435d ago
Plus my Samsung LED display has a motion camera built into it. So why would I need XBOX ONE other than for gaming?

MS is way late to the party with this type of all in one device. All of the things MS is implementing with the XBOX ONE is already being done by smartphones, tablets, laptops, smart TV's and broadcast receivers (Comcast, DirecTV, Dish ,etc).

They should've focused on a traditional gaming console 1st and everything else secondary. They came in at too high of a price point and too many restrictions plus FULL DRM. Not going to happen. At least not for me. A once hardcore devoted MS fan.
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thrust  +   435d ago
Irepbtown, wow just wow.....

You are so bias it is unreal! What a stupid post.

Btw if you plan on playing the ps4 online your not saving £80 at all, maybe you should go and read up on the real price difference, there is not much to it.
Perjoss  +   435d ago
The price tag is not even close to being the biggest problem the xbox one has.
forcefullpower  +   435d ago
But it is not a DVR. Just a path though device for changing channels
irepbtown  +   435d ago
Thrust,

I'm not biased...

If disliking the restriction of used games, having to be online all the time, having a camera always on, paying £80 more is biased, then I don't know what to say to you.

There was a point a few months ago I considered ordering the X1 however after the PS4 conference in Feb I put a deposit down for the PS4. After E3 I cancelled the order @Game and I ordered the PS4 from Amazon.
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kneon  +   435d ago
It's only a DVR for games, not for TV. So you still need a real DVR for recording TV
jronj  +   435d ago
I thought it would replace your DVR, but I looked it up and you are right.
http://au.businessinsider.c...
If it does get DVR services (which I pay $15/month for service and box rental) it would eventually pay for itself though, well in a few years :)
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kneon  +   435d ago
Well it may replace a DVR at some point but it can't replace your cable box. So maybe your $15/month will go down to $10.
ANIALATOR136  +   435d ago
I swear you must work for Microsoft
unchartedxplorer  +   435d ago
Yeah how much is he getting paid?
Shadow Flare  +   435d ago
He gets paid according to how good Microsofts reputation is.

After 2 years of service, he has so far earned nothing.
reef1017  +   435d ago
You also get a bunch of privacy issues!
Blackdeath_663  +   435d ago
microsoft was the first company that provided data to PRISM way back in 2007 so if you have 360 you would have already been spied on
creized1  +   435d ago
LMAO man said Windows 8 kernel as an advantage. omg..
SpinalRemains  +   435d ago
And a DVR which it doesn't have for tv.

He flat out lied.
iliimaster  +   435d ago
my smart tv has netflix amazon prime video facebook twitter etc at the push of one button on my 65 inch tv..... and i prefer my HOPPA ! from dish can record up to 6 shows at once ! and i got a ipad 2 lol, and

you forgot to add one thing..... if you dont pay ur internet bill forwhatever reason you can't access ANYTHING on that console
WeaseL  +   435d ago
I have a new Samsung with gesture controls after the novelty wore off I got tired of waving my arms and went back to the remote.
Jakens  +   435d ago
You don't seem to have a problem paying for your other crap.
Mikelarry  +   435d ago
hey i never thought of it like that, that is so true. imagine trying to move isp did not have the internet for 1 month let me repeat that 1 MONTH, that would mean if i did get the xb1 (over my dead body ofcourse) and decided to move isp i am am basically screwed for 1 MONTH
SpinalRemains  +   435d ago
Right.

On xbone you cannot put in your blu ray disk and the game because it is not your game lol.

Its actually painful reading those who defend it. It can possibly destroy everything great about console gaming.
saggysack79  +   435d ago
i dont care for any of that shit
Odoylerules000  +   435d ago
Offering more if you're big into live television I guess. You're getting kicked in balls if you're a gamer, though. Honestly, you're paying for an incredibly overpriced fancy cable box (You're not really impressed with the skype or browser..are you?)that you can talk to. If you're lonely its kind of cool. Really though, its all pretty poor for that price.
zerocrossing  +   435d ago
Don't forget about the invasive, restrictive DRM, mandatory second hand game fees, 24 hour online authentication, Kinetic 2 listening and watching you, and all games must be installed on your hard drive before you are allowed to play them.
onyoursistersback  +   435d ago
If the prices where switch around I would still go with Sony's Ps4!!

Bull 5hit/fan boy aside, I don't like the fact that your game is almost worthless after you install it!
Your console....your games, your money!
Nothing agust XboxOne, just they have not provide any good games (aside from Titian Fall, that game looks sick!)

I would like if they set them side by side @ retails, and record the effects on video.
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thecurseddevil  +   435d ago
im pretty sure that their windows 8 kernel is gonna perform worse than ps4's unix based os.

94 % of supercomputers use linux which is unix based,
only 0.6% of supercomputers(pretty sure those which are on the bottom 0.6 percentile)use windows kernel.
the only reason that windows is popular on desktops is because most comps come preinstalled with windows,and very few people take the trouble of installing their os themselves.

if you compare pure kernels,windows kernel is,beyond a shadow of doubt the worst one out there.
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Hooby  +   435d ago
What if I don't care about ANY of that. I want to play games...with a controller. All that extra bullcrap I'd be paying for is worthless. Thanks for making me spend a hundred bucks on something I don't want.
Sitdown  +   435d ago
You just need to realize no matter what Microsoft says or does, some people will disagree by default......Then some will disagree and come up with off the wall scenarios to try and justify their default response. More so recently on N4G it has been from the Sony crew.

Example.......I would never pay to play online, Pay Wall.....soon as Sony gives the revelation, b b but PSN+ offers so much more and it pays for itself. Sony would not do it if it first was not advantageous to them. When there was report of low amount of units for launch....well that is a tactic by Microsoft to create a demand, when reports come out about Sony.....oh that's awesome, people love it. As an owner of all current consoles and future owner of next gen.... Well we will see about the xbox one. This foolishness is one that I never remember during the Sega and Nintendo days.
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SpinalRemains  +   435d ago
You're actually defending all of these awful restrictions under the veil of "well you're a SONY fanboy"

Tell us all personally how you feel about every single feature that MS is either forcing and taking away this Gen.

We would all like to know why we should buy one.

Sell us one.
creatchee  +   435d ago
He's not defending restrictions - he's pointing out hypocrisies. For about ten years, Microsoft fans have been berated on a daily basis by Sony fans for paying for online multiplayer. Now the shoe is on both feet and there are excuses from the same people who did the attacking for all of those years.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - Plus is a GREAT VALUE. This is indisputable. However, no matter how many things they attach to the subscription, you still are paying for online multiplayer. That is the central issue.
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Sitdown  +   435d ago
@creatchee

Bubbles for being level headed and seeing the intentions of my post.
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shaenoide  +   435d ago
A go to hell package you mean? :p
edonus  +   435d ago
More than 75 people that dont want to hear reality.

Xbox ONE wipes the floor with Ps4. Gddr5 is not god in silicon the X1 games looked way better than what sony showed. All those teraflops amounted to nothing.

Xbox one is multitasking and can do full body games plus everything from heavy kinect integration to soft integration standard out the box. You also have added voice control and gesture control along with your controller or remote control skype and windows apps out the box.

We have seen the games there is no doubt in its power.
amiga-man  +   435d ago
M$ are also offering a DRM infested 24 hour check in with a kinect that has to be plugged in

Anyone buying into this crap truly are blind to the damage they are doing.
BlindGuardian  +   435d ago
Xbox one doesn't have any DVR capabilities
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3-4-5  +   435d ago
You can't DVR....not sure if you heard that.

Nor can you watch On-Demand or record to XB1.

But you can watch basic cable !

That a side, at least those who buy, will have solid to really good games to play.

Their game lineup was better than expected but not perfect.

I think they will be pressured via money problems and internal pressure to lower the price + bundle game + remove restrictions they have in place for used games and possible enabling off-switch of kinect sensor.
Drekken  +   435d ago
Nice try, Don Mattrick.
dale_denton  +   435d ago
FrigidDARKNESS
it's been awhile, SERRRRVED.
rainslacker  +   435d ago
I'm not sure if Windows 8 should be a selling point. It's reception on PC was pretty lackluster, although it is fine for tablets and phones.

All the systems offer a web browser, and generally Internet Explorer is considered one of the worst ones available, although it is still the most widely used due to the fact it ships with windows.

Most gamers don't want Kinect, and while the tech is nice, there are things about it which obviously turn people off. Why not just leave it extra like Sony did? Let the people that want it bear the cost of it.

Also, you don't get a DVR with the X1, you get a pass-through connection which adds an overlay and control functions to your existing DVR. It's a cool feature and all, but hardly worth dropping $500 on. It's one of those things that if it's there it's maybe worth using, but many TV's, and other devices already have this functionality. It seems to me that a lot of people aren't rushing out to get those devices...which are already much cheaper.

So...what features of the Xbox, besides the one you listed, make you think people would be willing to buy the system for $500? The games perhaps, but it seems most gamers are really turned off by the system.

The system will probably sell fine at first, but I expect it's long term appeal will be low to the mass consumers. MS does have a chance to work with cable providers though, which could help it's install base. I also wouldn't doubt that the current high price is more reflective of the fact that they want to subsidize it, thus making it look like a better deal to get it through some sort of contract...not unlike how most cell phones are sold now.
FrightfulActions  +   436d ago
I'll be 'that guy': The price tag is the LEAST of Xbox One's problems right now.
Sitdown  +   435d ago
I think it's a big part....you can't require me to give up what I am accustomed to, force a camera on me, all while requesting me to pay significantly more than your competitor.....you are forgetting how you made it this far, the cheapest alternative to playing 3rd party games.
snipab8t  +   435d ago
It is $599 bloody dollars in Australia!
shivvy24  +   435d ago
we are part of the european pricing so, convert it and it should be close i think
BALLARD32  +   435d ago
The $499 price tags is like the least of the problems. I wouldn't have a problem paying that if it wasn't for the stupid DRM.
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MysticStrummer  +   435d ago
Agreed. I bought my PS3 when they were $599 and never thought twice about it. $499 is not the thing that made MS lose E3.
irepbtown  +   435d ago
Because of the restrictions, because of the stupid things MS are implementing, $499/£429.99 is not justifiable when Sony are charging $399/£349.99 for a console that is a mile ahead of the X1.

If MS had a beast console, no stupid restrictions, $499/£429.99 would not be a bad price.
Perjoss  +   435d ago
Exactly, I was ready to buy both Sony and Microsofts consoles on day 1 until Microsoft started pulling a Harbinger and assuming direct control of pretty much everything.

I'm paying for games with my hard earned cash so I can play them on your console, the only thing you need to do is tell me 'thank you', NOT tell me how and when I can play MY games and eventually cut me off when you decide you no longer want to host the authentication servers.

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Gaming4Ever  +   435d ago
Judging by the response I'm getting when talking to people, I really don't think they'll get away with it. I've seen the toughest of the tough Microsoft fan praise Sony and the PS4 instead. It's game over.
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yugovega  +   435d ago
for some reason i must say the systems preorder rate proves this wrong. i personally will not be buying one because my wiiu does all the tv functions the xbox one offers without taking up half my screen since it has it's own screen. but they seem to be getting away with that price.
TongkatAli  +   435d ago
That price tag is a kick in the nuts + the restrictions + the barrage of ads that is going to be on the OS

PS4 and Wii U are going to destroy the F out of it.
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sway_z  +   435d ago
I guess if you're a consumer who wants to get into gaming, has very few devices in your home, and your cable sub is expiring soon, then Xbox One at $499 or £429 is not a terrible deal.

But most people like dedicated devices, so at least if something malfunctions you still have alt devices. Most people are committed to other services already...so exactly who are these consumers?

MS are loaded, and have enough collateral to change Xbox One or fail with Xbox One. Sony doesn't have that luxury.

Still, it's mighty brave and bold gamble MS!
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Bathyj  +   435d ago
I'm expecting a pre launch price cut. in fact I think they're going to back pedal on a lot of stupid decisions like the online thing and used games. don't be surprised if they do and say, but that's what we meant all along. people misunderstood.

or maybe they'll just drive the car off the cliff out of sheer arrogance. there still seem to be a lot of people that will put up with a lot of shabby treatment. MS is counting on you.
avengers1978  +   435d ago
If you heard any of the stuff ms is saying after they revealed all, then u know they think they are not only justified, but giving you a deal at this price... I don't see any changes coming from MS, especially on price and policy.
sway_z  +   435d ago
Then they will lose market share and Xbox One could fail....I think Sony needs to remain grounded, so I would like a degree of success for MS's console. MS needs to be a competitor and bring it!

I am sure DRM/Used Game Policy or not, Xbox fans will support it.
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rainslacker  +   435d ago
The fact that there are already plenty of people willing to support it means you probably won't see a pre-launch price cut. There's no doubt that it will sell well initially, so MS will want to take advantage of those early adopters. Long term though, it's hard to imagine that people will see value in what MS is offering. Even if price was the only concern, people have other issues, which I highly doubt MS is going to backpedal on. Maybe a couple years into the life of X1 if it fails to gain mass acceptance.

If after a year or two they decide to remove the restrictions, I would be willing to take a look, even at $500. I was already to preorder one before I knew about this stuff, but now PS4 games will see the money I reserved for the X1 console.
brettyd  +   435d ago
$499.99 with all the restrictions, just look at the internet buzz. This thing is doomed if they don't adjust their tone. They look like a bunch of a--holes right now. It's a shame because there are a few good games that are exclusive to the system that I would like to play, but i refuse to support such an anti-consumer company. Plus it's a less powerful system than Ps4, they have no right to charge that much, especially when the majority of gamers would rather not have a Kinect watching them all the time. Making the console require an online connection and Kinect to function is a puzzling decision.
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CarlosX360  +   435d ago
This comment is the epitome of what the article is about.

Ladies and gentlemen; this is what the article is about.
vega275  +   435d ago
I honestly think it will hurt them in the beginning and see them having to drop the price earlier then they want to. same as what happened with the ps3 when it launched for the same price at the time. but i don't see it killing it off.

what will help MS will be the continuing support of new games and more likely the change in their policy for used games.(if that happens) only time will tell not early prediction that may prove to turn out wrong.
Death  +   435d ago
Price point is not an issue. The $499 SKU includes the new Kinect sensor. The PS4 SKU at $399 has no Eye which is $60 more. By including kinect with every console the chance at innovation increases tremendously.

Supply and demand will play a role in used game prices. If I buy a game new and have only one shot at a trade, the value should be higher when compared to a copy of a game with infinite resale potential. I'm pretty sure I'll be ok with DRM if it means my 1 month old copy of Madden is worth more than the 50 cents Gamestop might offer if they have 100 used copies in the backroom. Might happen, might not happen. I'll wait and see if this horrible DRM that already happens on PC's is worth getting my panties all bunched up like most vocal netizens.
DA_SHREDDER  +   435d ago
Im buying a ps4, so ya the price point is sorta a big deal if i wanna get both consoles. :(
FullMetalTech  +   435d ago
But the PS4 can run on its own without the camera. Also what happens when your camera gets damaged or stops working. You will have no choice but to get another at probably a high price too in order for XB1 to even work.
Death  +   435d ago
That's an interesting what if scenario. If the Kinect sensor fails, I would probably send it in if under warranty or replace it if it prevents the system from working.

The PS4 is number 1 and 3 in the Amazon top 20 currently. The XboxOne is 2 and 6. The PS4 camera ranks in at 12. The people buying the camera with their systems are paying $460, but support for the PS4 camera will suffer since the attach rate is going to be lower.

The $40 difference when you compare the two with the same components isn't much. Microsoft can also add games via a Holiday bundle like they do every year or enable a price drop sooner rather than later. It's funny that those that don't have any idea what Kinect can potentially do for the gaming experience are so against it, but Blu-ray in the PS3 did absolutely nothing for gaming but was a god send.

Since I'm talking so far off the deep edge I might as well say I like the tablet controller on the WiiU too and am very interested to see how it is used in the future. I'm actually a fan of innovation, but really like it when it's used. By including something with the console it insures that 100% of the userbase has it. This helps developers justify the resources needed to use it.
rainslacker  +   435d ago
I don't think there's anything wrong with the Kinect sensor tech, and yes, there are possibilities that can open up new forms of gaming, and yes, it is more capable of the PS4 camera. But the fact it has to be always on is a problem for a lot of people. I don't really play into the conspiracy, "It's watching you" mentality, but I understand why people are dubious, especially given the recent report on PRISM.

However, when it comes to being included in every box, it puts the burden of costs on everyone, even those that care nothing for it. That's something many people don't want to have, and it's MS saying, "Touch sh*t, you're getting one whether you want it or not".

It's also worth pointing out that resale value doesn't increase if it can only be resold once. In fact it makes it so resale value is dropped dramatically, because people are less likely to want to spend as much.

Any fee for trading in is going to be passed directly to the person trading in. This means you will be offered less for that title. The reason for this is simple. The sell price to the new buyer is going to stay consistent with today's pricing model. They won't charge more to sell a used copy, so they will want to make the same profits by lowering the trade in costs.
Death  +   435d ago
Supply and demand dictates pricing. Used game sales are so profitable because stores give less when supply increases and demand decreases. When supply is restricted, prices increase due to the inability to satisfy demand. Sure over time as supply catches up, the fee's may affect sales, but that is still to be seen. When hot new games come out, Gamestop always puts a bounty on newer game trades to build stock. With limited reselling of XboxOne games, the same should hold true.
rainslacker  +   435d ago
"Supply and demand dictates pricing".

Yes true, so imagine the demand for a game is lower than the supply. In which case if you add in a fee, which is a constant(presumably), why would you get more for your game?

For instance, the game is valued at $10 by gamestop. The fee to reregister that game through the publisher is $15. This means that the seller is trading in a game that has a negative value.

A game won't sell for more than it's value. If at most GameStop thinks they can get $15.99 for it, have to pay a $10 fee for it, then to profit they have to give you no more than 5.98 for it. Obviously they'll want more than a penny, so they either have to charge more for the used game...which means people won't buy it because demand isn't there at that price, or they give less to the person trading it in...a much more likely scenario, because it's less risk to them. They likely don't have to pay the fee until they resell the game.

Supply and demand is only really relevant in this regard on more desirable titles...such as new releases, niche titles, and hard to find titles. For older titles, it's more about just having stock, putting it out there, and waiting for someone to buy it. Think of how many games you see in those "Under $10" bins at GameStop. People don't want them dirt cheap, even though supply is plentiful...demand isn't there. You're not going to get more for a cheap game anyways, not sure why you believe you'd get more with an added fee.
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Death  +   435d ago
Why would you think the fee is $15? Retailers make about $15 on each new game they sell. This means they pay approx $45 for a $60 game. These same retailers sell used gmes for $55. Here's a nice example. Black-ops 2 is currently getting you $27 trade in credit. It sells for $54.99 used. Gamestop makes $28 on the used copy vs $15 for new. The reason for this is high demand and lower supply since it's newer. This is with no restrictions on trades. Now take the amount of available tradeable games down and how does that affect pricing? Of that extra $13, some should go to the publisher/developer. Currently they get nothing. With low supply, if the publishr gets $5 of that, there is still $8 above and beyond new pricing. Depending on the supply chain, there's a few extra bucks that can be passed to the customer and still be more profitable if the gamestore needs it. This was at optimal pricing, typically Gamestop gives you much less and still sells for $55 used on newer releases.

http://www.gamestop.com/tra...
http://www.gamestop.com/col...
rainslacker  +   435d ago
I was using the fee and sell value as examples to demonstrate my point. I can only speculate on what the fee will be at this point, same as you did.

My point in both posts, which you conveniently haven't addressed, is that the person trading in is going to get less for their trade in under this scheme. Games will still be priced to the 2nd hand buyer the way they are now. Only the person trading them in gets shafted...you know...the person that supported the dev in the first place most of the time.

You say GameStop gives terrible trade in values, but do you think that's going to change when they now will make less profit off a used game? No, they will do all the can to retain their profit margins.

Also, most reports say that a retailer makes between $8-12 dollars on a new game, and some say they make as low as $2. This is why selling only new games isn't a sustainable business model for a retail store which are hugely expensive to run. How come we don't address that issue instead of vilifying the used game market and those who take advantage of it.
Death  +   435d ago
http://latimesblogs.latimes...

Gamestop makes very little on hardware sales, much better on accessories, and approx 25% on software. Used hardware sales and software sales margins are rediculously high and in my humble opinion unfair to the customers. A 50%+ profit margin doesn't sound like a nice way to thank your customers to me. That margin increases substantially as supply increases.

It is possible Gamestop could decide the customer should pay the fee. If that happens, they run the risk of not having trades to sell at a much higher margin. This leaves them at 25% profit for new.

If customers are willing to accept $10 for a game they just paid $60 for and know Gamestop will sell for $55, who do you really blame?
AmkOwns  +   435d ago
They'll have to sacrifice the kinect if they want a reasonable price which is impossible

you're screwed.
GreenRanger  +   435d ago
Kinect and DRM are the real problems, not the price tag.
cheetorb  +   435d ago
Not to mention the whole surveillance thing. Microsoft didn't HAVE to implemnet this. It could have been a device just like the first Kinect but that fact that they are having you keep it on (even if it's only listening) is just devious. And checking in every 24 hrs? Sure, to upload everything thing they've tracked. They say they may not be keeping records but you sure as sh-t can bet someone is. Thanks to our SO patriotic "Patriot Act" Big Bro can just come in and take all that for whatever reason they want.

It will only be a matter of time before someone hacks this and reveals what's really happening in the background.

All we wanted were some great games like the 360 had and instead we get this...? Good luck with that.

2013 is the new 1984
Britainz-Fin3st  +   435d ago
ofcourse they will record !!
came across this this morning, reminded me of xbox one

http://www.infowars.com/twe...
sway_z  +   435d ago
@GreenRanger_

Agreed, DRM/Used is the major issue, but I think price could also be an issue...

Especially when the development world say Xbox One's nearest competitor is more powerful, and will be released in the same window $100 cheaper.
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Britainz-Fin3st  +   435d ago
I dont think they can justify it either to be honest.

$499 + Xbox Live. + your broadband costs, wanna watch Netflix? thats +. Want to buy that used game? Thats used game price + the license you need.

Pretty soon games will have not optionable chargable DLC...
Mikelarry  +   435d ago
lol like its the price that is driving gamers away not the drm, privacy concerns and used games policy
mochachino  +   435d ago
MS is basically forcing you to by a Kinect.

Not many gamers want Kinect, even less want to be forced to pay for it. Classic MS puitting their casual games ambitions before the people that got Xbox where it is today. If they want to be the box does it all then fine, but foot the bill for your own ambitions and take a loss on the console instead of forwarding it to the consumer.

Do they really think gamers buying a launch console are going to get home and the first thing they do will be to watch TV!? Unbelievable retardation by MS pushing a TV remote on every potential purchasing gamer.
brianunfried  +   435d ago
I think the price is the least of their worries. They need to fix their public image first, like EA is trying to do by getting rid of the online pass.
EffectO  +   435d ago
They also have Skype on big screen out of the box.Notice how none of their DRM nonsense is applied to TV,movie lovers.

They can always drop the price for $100.
AutoCad  +   435d ago
Mine is pre-ordered,i think they got away with it.
Mikelarry  +   435d ago
lol like its the price that is driving gamers away not the drm, privacy concerns and used games policy
tiffac008  +   435d ago
I don't have a particular problem with the price because the prices will go down eventually. Its the nature of the console industry. I have said the very same thing where the PS Vita was questioned about its price.

However, the DRM and the way MS is defending it. Now that's a totally different story.
Supermax  +   435d ago
If ms wants to compete this holiday season they need to immediately offer Xbox love gold for a year for free,allow you to trade used games in let me give trade my games with my friends.show some free games not halo 3 and assassins creed 2 that's a slap in my face when ps3 is giveing uncharted 3 and Xcom enemy unknown away for free for ps+ members.ps4 will have planetside 2 dc universe warframe war thunder for free.driveclub comes with a year of ps+ ,there also throwing 3 indie games in as well.ms has a lot of work to do.
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from the beach  +   435d ago
I think they're fine.

Strong launch lineup will sell it this winter, combined with 'added value' of Kinect and a massive marketing campaign tied to COD.

Year one games like Titanfall and Quantum Break leading up to Halo 5.
TongkatAli  +   435d ago
I think the price is a big deal cause it's 499$ for the console itself + xbox live 60$ + a game you're looking at over 600$ easily.

The Sega Saturn,Dreamcast and Neo Geo are going to get a new member in their club.
illtownNJONE  +   435d ago
People still complain about xbox one then dont buy one I really feel that 499 is great for what you are getting, people pay more for a cell phone, the cable box jokes are old & at least it gives you an option, i'll be playing madden 25 while watching nfl at the same time, I just think xbox one gives you more for the $.....xbox one is gonna sell
CarlosX360  +   435d ago
So, you're going to buy a low-spec game console, for $500? Yeah.. No.
mrxbox  +   435d ago
Pathetic most thing is that it has Windows 8 involved now. I don't know why people see that as a plus point. Windows 8 is shit for this..
NaughtyDream  +   435d ago
i live on a small island of about one million people. Only 20 percent of this have internet and its also expensive. Am hearing from one big retailer here that they will not import the xbox one because it will be useless that is it will not work. Now imagine what other islands and parts of the world where internet is not available. Retailer will favor the PS4 and microsoft will lose big markets share.
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