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Submitted by SirRidge 396d ago | opinion piece

Sony’s Conference Might Have Been Better For Consumers, But Microsoft’s Was Better For Gamers

Gamers-Association editor Ridge Dermody feels like he is the only person who didn't like Sony's E3 press conference. (E3, PS4, Xbox One)

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Arai  +   396d ago | Well said
So...gamers aren't consumers then? lol
dedicatedtogamers  +   396d ago
Straws.

This article is grasping at them.

Maybe I'm just old, but you know what other consoles had great E3 conferences and a great lineup of games? Neo Geo CD. 3D0. Saturn. What matters is long-term support, and Microsoft simply isn't capable of pulling that off.

Edit @ below

What platforms is PvZ:Garden Warfare coming to? I thought that game looked really, really fun (don't laugh at me!)
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majiebeast  +   396d ago
Yeah and not even doing a goodjob. Garden Warfare not exclusive. PS3,PC,360 and Xbone thats from EA's own site.
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Tetsujin  +   396d ago
Actually I'd give the E3 conference to Sony for these reasons:

Games
Media
Answered DRM questions
Touched on Multiplayer for next Gen
PSN+ (With Drive Club as first PS4 game with 3 Indie titles)

Here's what MS did:
Paid Hideo to come out on stage for less than 3 minutes
Games (most were timed exclusives)

Didn't even clear up some of the rumors about DRM, Kinnect, or online

However because on MS the games looked shiner it won according to the author; I'd say since Sony at least touched the important bases it won hands down.
shoddy  +   396d ago
The only reason Sony didn't wow peoole on games at E3 cause they already show them a month ahead so there is no surprises.
We all seen KZ, infamous and TLOU
Skips  +   396d ago
It was all or nothing for Microsoft. They had to show every game they had after what was considered the worst reveal in gaming history. From all the backlash, and negativity it got. Any less and it would be a BLOODBATH! LMAO!!!

But what's funny is they STILL got stomped by Sony. lol!

People are totally ignoring the games Sony actually revealed at their official reveal too. XD And not to mention they had to cover games for TWO OTHER PLATFORMS...

What if The Last Of Us, Puppeteer, Rain, Until Dawn, Gran Turismo 6, and Beyond: Two Souls WERE FOR PS4???

Sony doesn't just drop support of a console in favor for their next gen console like MS.

And not to mention they actually have more to show at Gamescom and TGS. Is Microsoft even going to show up this time??? lol!
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Dmarc  +   396d ago
Do people think the games shown at the conference where all exclusives?
PS4 almost has more new ips than xbox one has exclusives all together..

haha do people really think the new Metal Gear is exclusive to XBOX One?
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Larry L  +   396d ago
I don't see how MS's presser was better for gamers when the best games they showed were cross-platform games (MGS5, The Witcher). Aside from Forza, a poor man's God of War that's a Kinect game, and a game that's only getting hype because it's made by the real Infinity Ward and is exclusive for some reason (is this going to compete with a TRUE Battlefield experience coming to consoles.....and CoD......AND HALO on that platform?), I didn't see many compelling exclusives.

People are raving about DR3, but that's only because that's the only other thing there was to be excited about. DR3 didn't look that great compared to more modern "zombie" games. DR1 and 2 were a bit more impressive at the time they released.
snipermk0  +   396d ago
laying off the smokes wud be better for who ever wrote this article.
JokesOnYou  +   396d ago
Yeah, you can hate micro but imo their conference easily had the best games.

Its no use, almost every game site that I read even through all the negativity pretty much says micro delivered a better show in terms of GAMES...all the "well bu, bu" and "x game didnt look great", falls on death ears since people have eyes to see for themselves.
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Dmarc  +   396d ago
JokesOnYou
how are we hating and what do you mean by its no use? you said it your self its our own opinions just because some people on a site say they like one over the other one has no relevance to anything discussed here.
MS displayed some great games but its not like everything they showed blew away everything else shown.All conferences showed great games bottom line.
papashango  +   396d ago
Microsoft easily shot past Sony in terms of games.

the used games announcement fell on deaf ears here since I don't remember the last time I bought used.

That said I'm still considering a ps4 since netflix, and hulu are not behind ps+

I thought I would be at a decision after E3. But I really wanna try out some of X1's exclusives. This sucks.
Destrania  +   396d ago
Development has been poor on XboxOne according to devs. Many of those exclusive games they showed were pre-rendered in-engine demos, not realtime in-engine running on the actual hardware (and yes, that is true) And yet they still didn't even look good! They looked bland and uninspired for the most part. Also, where was and is the gameplay for any of these exclusive games? Microsoft didn't even confirm any of these exclusive titles will be available at launch. Every PS4 game shown clearly stated that they were running realtime on PS4, and, Sony showed and is continuing to show far more straight (and damn impressive) gameplay of their games. Not only that, the games on PS4 are simply far more spectacular, unique, and varied. Sony has an incredible launch line-up for PS4. Sony always has and will always continue to prove that they have the best, most creative developers in the business. Sony truly <3 developers, and developers truly <3 Sony. The indie support is awesome too, there were some really interesting and cool looking indie titles they showed... Sony is providing the absolute most powerful system to devs (by far) with the absolute best developer environment and tools. The PS4 version of all cross-platform titles will always be the best version. Sony and the PS4 is 100% for gamers and developers, by gamers and developers. They have a lot more games in development too (duh) and we'll see those reveals in due time. Sony doesn't have to give every title away right now, because they have already shown tons of great exclusive content/games (including third party games with a lot of fully exclusive content only on PS) a lot of which will be available right at launch. Plus the inclusion of Gaikai and all the goodness that will bring. And they're offering all this at $100 less?! Awesome. Sony and the PS4 isn't just awesome for developers/gamers, they're the best by a long shot. 'Is Playstation the best place to play? Without a doubt.'
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JokesOnYou  +   396d ago
Dmarc you misunderstood, its a figure of speech all I said is you may have your reasons for not liking micro or X1 itself but like I said "imo" micro easily showed the better games, I said nothing about you are hating if you disagree with that...I also just mentioned most of what I saw while critical of micros policies generally thought they showed a stronger lineup.
ABizzel1  +   396d ago
No offense to the author of the article, especially because I felt the same way up until the last 40+ minutes of the Sony conference. I think these difference between these conferences were:

MS's conference was about making up, and proving to the gamers they have games and that their console wasn't all about media.

vs.

Sony's conference was all about showing gamers they're putting the developers and the consumers first, by showing the improvement with 3rd party developers, indie developers, and making sure the consumer knows that their putting them first and foremost, which is why Sony won in the eyes of the majority of gamers, journalist, and developers.

That being said game for game I agree Microsoft showed better games and demos.

But that's where it ends. "They showed better games and demos", not they have better games.

1. Sony showed over 10 indie games in development exclusively for the PlayStation 4 and you grouped them into one category. Yet Below, Loco Cycle, and Killer Instinct are Indie and XBLA titles as well. Then Kinect Sports Rivals and Fantasia: Music Evolved are casual Kinect games. So if you want to represent them pound for pound then the PS4 had 6 core exclusives vs. the Xbox One's 9 core exclusives (10 counting Killer Instinct although it's pay to play per character and a XBLA title).

As far as game preference goes

Ryse: Son Of Rome looks great graphically, but the gameplay looks overly dull, with a hint simple RTS-like play thrown in for diversity.

Project Spark: The creation aspect of the game looks intuitive and simple, but how does that lend itself to build complex and innovative games, especially when the level they designed didn't wow.

Dead Rising 3: I agree I was highly impressed with Dead Rising 3, but best action zombie game is pushing it.

And none of the other games really wowed either with the exceptions of MGS5 (multiplat), Battlefield 4 (multiplat), and TitanFall.

You also have to remember Microsoft said they would have 15 first party exclusives in the first year of Xbox One, and they just showed everything they have until 2014 (although there could be a few more 3rd party exclusives coming for E3 2014), vs. Sony showing launch titles only.
ABizzel1  +   396d ago
And as you said Sony spent a decent amount of time on PS3 and Vita, because they're still supporting those platforms vs. MS who dumped first party support for the Xbox 360 to completely focus on the Xbox One.

Just because The Last of Us, Beyond 2 Souls, Gran Turismo 6, Puppeteer, Rain, Killzone Mercenaries, Tearaway, God of War HD1 & 2 Vita,
Final Fantasy X HD & X2 HD, Flower Vita, Dead Nation Vita, Dragon's Crown, Warrior's Lair, and Kingdom Hearts HD Remix aren't coming to the PS4 doesn't mean you can't count them as exclusives.

On top of that 2014 is already too crowed as it is, so why would Sony release a barrage of PS4 exclusives and have all of these huge releases competing with each other forcing many of the games to fail financially due to the sheer amount of quality titles. I'm sure we all can think of 10 - 20 games were looking forward to for launch, but realistically most core gamers are going to buy their console and maybe up to 5 games ($700 for the console and 5 games), so why risk having one of their first party games not be one of those 5. And realistically speaking when the majority of gamers miss a game day one they either neglect to pick it up, or wait until it's super cheap used, or hits the bargin bin.

What I will say is that Sony failed in showing off other games that could have made their demos and showing better. All the Free 2 Play games should have been demoed, and are EXTREMELY important, because as I said gamers are more than likely buying no more than 5 games; however, I can guarantee you that they'll be downloading every Free 2 Play game to see if they're worth keeping. On top of that it's another way to show how the PS4 is cheaper than the Xbox One in another way beside the $100 console price difference.

When you looks at exclusives and console exclusive things start to look completely different.

PS4: Drive Club, Infamous: Second Son, Killzone: Shadowfall, Knack, The Order: 1886, Primal Carnage: Genesis, Secret Ponchos, Homesquare's game, Blacklight: Retribution, Daylight, DC Universe Online, Final Fantasy 14, Octodad, Outlast, Planetside 2, War Thunder, and Warframe are all console exclusives.

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vs.

Xbox One: Below, Crimson Dragon, D4, Dead Rising 3, Fantasia: Music Evolved, Forza Motorsport 5, Untitled Halo Project, Killer Instinct, Kinect Sports Rivals, Loco Cycle, Project Spark, Quantum Break, Ryse: Son Of Rome, Sunset Overdrive, Minecraft: Xbox One Edition, and TitanFall.

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Finally to finish things up, Sony generally has a Gamescon and TGS conference, whereas MS rarely has one and rarely attends either outside of demo stations. At these conferences Sony generally announces a couple of new games, as well as price drops for their consoles, so there should definitely be more coming for the PS4 in the next few month especially with PC developers and indie developers embracing the PS4 significantly over the Xbox One.
wsoutlaw87  +   396d ago
Ya i think the part that made sonys games less exciting was that we already knew about kz and infamous. If we didnt I would have been so suprised by how great they looked. They also showed off mad max and KH3 but neither trailer was as great as it could have been. They also showed off alot of indie titles most people wouldnt know about. That Rise game for xbone looked awesome but ill have to see about the game play. The ms conference showed they still like shooters and paying for timed exclusives
Mr_Nuts  +   396d ago
Most of Microsofts games though didn't look all that great. The only one I was really into was Dead Rising 3.

I thought I would be in love with KI but I don't know...I'm just not feeling it. I've wanted it for so long yet now that they announced it I don't feel anything.
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jetlian  +   396d ago
best ps4 exclusive is infamous. kingdom hearts 3 , ff15, mgs5 aren't exclusive. FF15 and mgs5 had the best graphics/trailers.

ryse, dead rising, titan and quantum break all look good.

but sony light drm and no spying camera wins them this fight
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   396d ago
Speak for your self. Titan Fall, Project Spark, Forza and Quantum Break and Killer Instinct have great potential.

Despite QB and Black Tusks showing teasers, I'm eager to see more.

I REALLY wanna gameplay on Sunset Overdrive as well.
NextGen24Gamer  +   396d ago
"I’ve been team Sony since day 1, and that isn’t going to change. But just looking at that list of exclusives it really looks like the Xbox One has more to offer for gamers. But looking at twitter and almost everything else it seems like almost everyone is saying Sony did an amazing job. Can everyone really be saying that as gamers? Or as cheap consumers looking to save a few bucks? I really don’t get it.."

Exactly! As a gamer, I'm Super Excited about the Xbox ONE! As a consumer, I think it's cool what Sony did with the lower price.

No way am I not getting the Xbox One at launch. Too many cool must have games and next gen features packed into the console.

With the price of the Ps4 being so cheap, it makes it easier for me to pick that up as well when they release a game that i'm interested in.

Sony should sell more consoles than MS with that price and their policies being cheap gamer friendly. But hardcore gamers like me could care less about the price difference. WE WANT THE GAMES!!!!

Xbox One has the games and then some!

Great E3 for both console makers, Sony wins by default for the "On a Budget" gamers!

Xbox One wins easily for the Hardcore "money is not an issue" Gamers!
kayoss  +   396d ago
Is this the new excuse now, .."100 dollars is nothing to gamers.." ? It's funny how the table has turned. The current gen the ps3 was bashed for its high price. Xbox 360 loyalist laughed at Sony loyalist for buying a more expensive console. Now that the x1 is more expensive, the Xbox loyalist excuse is, "100 more is nothing to gamers". Lol
Your arguement is full of contradictions. It is true. When you are defeated you become delusional.
"On the budget gamer", I bet you own an Xbox 360, the 360 was cheaper then the ps3 does that make you an "on the budget gamer"?
The funny thing is the ps4 is cheaper but have better spec. Either Microsoft is ripping off their customers or their soon to be x1 customers to dumb to realize it. I'm going with both.
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NextGen24Gamer  +   396d ago
Games are 60 dollars each. If you are a real gamer, 100 dollars is nothing. Price has never been an issue for me when it comes to buying a console. I bought the Ps3 at launch and didn't care that it was 600 dollars one bit. I never griped about the price. My family has 4 iphones and a galaxy note 2. We have 4 Samsung 10.1 tablets and an ipad 2. LOL...

100 dollar difference is pennies to me. I work, and I buy what I want.

I WANT THOSE XBOX ONE EXCLUSIVES.

I love games too much not to get the console that I believe is better for gamers that have money.

Internet...not a problem...
I don't care about used games.
I buy my games new and I keep my games. Trading in games you get pennys on the dollar and I would need to be desperate to do that.

I also don't use pawn shops...same exact concept...

If you are on a budget...Sony is probably the best option for you this next generation.

You don't need to be connected to the internet to play. You can buy used games and trade games in and borrow your buddies games.

For me...I real gamer with real money...I'm not limited to those things. I buy what I want to play and I play the games! I don't care who sells more consoles...I don't get a percentage...why should anyone care except the people who own stock in the company or works for the company. LOL... I'm a gamer...I want games...Xbox One is delivering on the next gen gaming front. I want my console connected and I want kinnect as an option for every developer.

I'm not alone, most xbox gamers just aren't as vocal as the sony fans who game on a budget. I would hate to be broke. LOL...
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isa_scout  +   396d ago
It isn't cheap gamers vs hardcore gamers guy. Your statement is silly. It's about so many more things than that. NO ONE can deny that this-gen Sony has supported the PS3 far better and far longer than MS has with the 360. Hell, the rest of this year is chaulk full of exclusive playstation titles. No DRM, no used game restrictions, and I for one am glad that I can let multiple people borrow my games(I don't buy used very much but I have a big family of gamers) without any restrictions. That should be a huge factor in most gamers decision. Sony may have not showed as many games as MS but I guarantee that Sony will have more quality titles than MS by a HUGE margin. It's not a sprint; it's a marathon, and Sony always seems to find a way to finish first in gamers eyes.
Clarence  +   396d ago
Anytime you charge a fee for used games and have a mandatory 24he check you can't be all about gamers. Sony has enough games to go around trust me.

Titanfall is Cod in the future. Ryes action buttons all day. KZ 3 and second son can go toe to toe with these games

As far as money goes the PS3 was the most expensive console this gen, yet us Sony fans that game on a budget helped the PS3 outsell the 360. Then you come on here and brag about how much money got.

Having money don't make you a gamer. Playing games makes you a gamer. You sound like a little boy bragging about what you got.

Then you try to $h!t on people who choose to buy the PS4 by saying we gaming on a budget. Lol how old are you. You only got 1hr to play your game at your buddies house. Hope he has the same game as you.

24hr vastly approaching better get home

More like weak24gamer.
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Jnewday2k13  +   396d ago
MS wins for the hardcore? are u mad. most of the games they actually showed are just timed exclusive, still comin out for the PS4. Educate yourself. Do you know, and fathom how many studios that Sony owns that are developing exclusives just for them? lets look at the PS3 just for this year. The Last of Us, Beyond Two Souls, GT5, etc. MS wishes that they had those studios developing sophisticated gaming experiences just for the Xbox One, and thats not happening so hold youre horses buddy. D0 y0u think that those top notch studios just stopped when they made games for the PS3? you gotta be smoking something. Get a F'n cluse
NateCole  +   396d ago
What is bad for consumers is bad for gamers.
Jihaad_cpt  +   396d ago
dude you blew my mind, with the truth!
a_bro  +   396d ago
Because when a company like Microsoft bribes 3rd party companies to pretend their games are exclusive to the x1, it means there were not enough games in the Sony presser... What load a crap this article is.

Most of the games Microsoft announced in that press conference were multi plats, and I'm sure a majority of people who were watching the press conference via live stream knows that.
NumOnePS3FanBoy  +   396d ago
Who every wrote this article is hilarious. So you are telling me that Sony over here has been releasing exclusive after exclusives since 2008 and we are still getting 2 new ip's this year for ps3, when xbox has basically starved their "gamers" of new ip's for years... lol It shocks me that these people refuse to acknowledge that when it comes to first party exclusives Sony doesn't back down. They have multiple studios exclusive to them that are currently working on more exclusives and new ip's.

Xbox gamers over here going crazy as if MS are the only releasing new ip's and exclusives. lol
dboyc310  +   396d ago
I have to agree to a certain extent. I'll give Microsoft props for delivering on the games side but since it's a new Gen everything has to be taken into account. Sony can and will provide the games too because gamescom and TGS are coming up.
Arai  +   396d ago
I agree that Microsoft had a great showing, I really liked the games after games thing they had going on.

But on the same note it's also very apparent (pretty much wherever you go on the net) that there's a reason why there was a lack of 3rd party games present at Sony's show.

Either way I'm happy we're rolling on to next-gen.
Ju  +   396d ago
I don't get it what you guys are getting at. Sony covered 3 platforms, had more games, a media section, the whole thing took 2 hours and had some real game play and reveals in it - The Order 1866 and Bundies Destiny premiere as well as live played AC Black Flag. With a quite large Indie and 3rd party section. Yeah, sure, we've seen Sony's first parties before - but in that light the rest got more prime time. It was all there, yet MS brought the games? Most of those trailers. And one 2-3 stick out of that bunch, the rest are fillers. - I'd almost count The Division to that list, even though revealed at Ubis conference but played on PS4 - which looked absolutely stunning, btw.
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Hufandpuf  +   396d ago
I agree MS had an engaging showing and the games looked great. All they would need to do to get gamers back on their side is to remove the DRM and used game restrictions. Those restrictions I belive are only there to reduce and monitor pirating activities. And I say they'd make much more gamers happy if they'd just remove those restrictions.
MRMagoo123  +   396d ago
They cant remove the restrictions tho its way too late unless they delay release, take the fact that they wont be able to let you rent games or lend them to ppl at launch for example....they have 5 months to sort that out but they say it wont be available at launch, how on earth would they find the time to do a complete system overhaul and make it so you dont need to install the full game which they will have to do if they want to get rid of the DRM and restrictions.
mmccarthy4  +   396d ago
If you gamed on pc you'd know DRM isn't that bad especially steam. Hell steam gets praised. People say steam has sales and they save a ton of money but Microsoft already has sales on live now so why won't that continue. However the 24hr check in could be a pain if you are traveling or have serious internet issues.
papashango  +   396d ago
Ok mccarthy I'll bite.

Please explain steams drm. There's many forms of drm. Surely you would already know that though. Then explain how it's bad for gamers
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THE-COMMANDER  +   396d ago
You are absolutely right mate, im pretty sure they will announce more games in the coming days.

Also im pretty sure Naughty Dog will show their new game for PS4 at VGA 2013.
mmccarthy4  +   396d ago
I am really excited for gamescom now for both platforms. I especially want to see black tusk game as Microsoft was so bold to say it will define next gen gaming that means a lot looking at how awesome titan fall turned out and I know sony will deliver as well.
opinska  +   396d ago
Dude Sony is murdering M$. Only game I want from shitbox is dead rising 3 ( and its probably a timed exclusive anyways).
Sony has: behind two souls, infamous second son, killzone, that budgie game set on 1800's, and tons of more already announced exclusive games. Then they got more for gamescom and what not. Sony went in on those bastards with everything. Price, better console capabilities, more exclusive games, no DRM BS... Shit what else can you ask?
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majiebeast  +   396d ago
You sound salty.

You missed a few games
-Planetside 2
-Dc universe
-Warframe
-Warthunder
-Blacklight:Retribution
-FF14RR

Calling Transistor,Abe and all those other indies cheap is crazy. Considering you list Lococycle(ps2 game) and Below.
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Philoctetes  +   396d ago
Microsoft's press conference was a lot more entertaining as a gamer. Sony's was kind of boring up until the end, when Jack Trenton curb-stomped Microsoft.

But who really cares. The important thing is that one console has DRM, weaker hardware and a higher price point. The other console has a stable of first party studios that you know are going to supply a steady stream of games over the course of this generation. That's what matters.
greenpowerz  +   396d ago
I wouldn't buy into the better hardware nonsense just yet. Many devs said at E3 both consoles were not even finished.

Sony's exclusives are sparse at E3 with no live demo's of their supposed block buster exclusives on stage at their presser.

MSFT's exclusives are visually superior to PS4's exclusives. The most taxing visually impressive Multi plats were all running on XBOX One at the presser and on the floor were people can see the Xbox One hardware running the games.

This price and DRM *PS4 won* crap is backward as hell.

If MSFT's Xbox One E3 flopped in games and system feature sets yet was cheaper than PS4, No one would be talking about Xbox and PS4 fans would bash dismissing a lower price as giving a victory. Media and PS fans would destroy MSFT if things were reversed.

Sony boasts about having games and shows nothing new except video of exclusive games they announced 3 months ago and multi plats with no proof of hardware running those games.

Sony won the internet troll battle that's it.
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majiebeast  +   396d ago
Lol Infamous:Second Son would like a word with you

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Nothing on the XBone even comes remotely close.
greenpowerz  +   396d ago
I forgot about Final Fantasy 15, Kingdom of Hearts, Metal Gear at MSFT's presser

These=megaton

People will get bored being happy about price and DRM and the dust will settle and reality will set in. Offerings sell consoles(features, services games etc)
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AceofStaves  +   396d ago
@Green - How are the 'MGS,' 'FF,' and 'KH' titles "megatons" for MS, when those franchises appeared on multiple platforms to start? If MS had secured one of them as an exclusive for XB1, then yes, that would be huge.

But this isn't the PS3/360 gen. Third-party multiplatform has become the norm.
cheameup  +   396d ago
I agree

what a $100 difference is a big deal to people? are you serious ? on a console that you will play for 7 years ?

If , and I say If MS delivers on content and features I'll pay an extra $100 without thinking about it.well its only $50 for me in oz anyway cause sony like a little extra fisiting for us

as much as the always online seems like an issue now ,me included , I have a good stable connection it wont be as much an issue if the content is there to back it up . especially if MS backs up all this cloud talk. right now it seems a gimmic but if it does become a real factor then the online component is justified
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greenpowerz  +   396d ago
Somebody is lying about PS4 specs LOL

Is all I got to say.
OSIRUSSS  +   396d ago
@cheameup When you get your XBONE. You can turn it on and confess your love directly to MS through the spycam. They are gonna love hearing your feedback. Among other things!
neoMAXMLC  +   396d ago
So much fear.
swishersweets20031  +   396d ago
@Greenpower you are seriously a delusional fanboy. M$ should employ you because all you spout is BS.
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gobluesamg  +   396d ago
Greenpowerz obviously likes taking it from behind from a greedy corporation. Still sticking with them after all this for a couple of mediocre exclusives huh? DUMB!
b777conehead  +   396d ago
your so full of it. kh 3 wasnt shown 3 months ago. sony showed lots of great games. your so full of your self
Karpetburnz  +   396d ago
Sony may not have showed many exclusive game demos on stage, but that's because they already showed half of the launch titles at the reveal in February, and they're showing demos today at E3, I have already seen the infamous demo, some knack gameplay and A Killzone shadow fall demo, all the other Sony exclusives are mostly trailers. But so far Sony still has more exclusives than Microsoft.

And TitanFall is the only one that had me interested from Microsoft, but thats multiplatform, NOT exclusive, it's on PC,Xbox one Xbox 360 as well.3 different platforms.
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reko  +   396d ago
how much do you get paid to troll? @greenpowerz
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cheameup  +   396d ago
@ Osirusss

I dont love any corporation . I feel no alligance to MS or Sony and this generation I own 360 and PS3. If I feel like it next generation I'll own both as well

but at launch I'll buy the one that I think has the best games and features even if it costs me $50 more . I dont think its game over yet
RonRico  +   396d ago
@Green
If both consoles aren't finalized, how are the XB1 game visually better looking for sure? I mean if the hardware isn't 100% locked in how do we know which console will look best. Anyways they are complete and there isn't gonna be anymore tweaks, it's too late.
Oh yeah, it's pretty much always a given that when games are previewed at shows like this, they are running on some kind of PC.
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Clarence  +   396d ago
Hello Arron Greenberg
Linsolv  +   396d ago
I don't want to say it wasn't boring up until the end. My experience with most of these conferences is that they're boring up until it's time to turn off the stream and then you're entertained by doing something else.

That said, I watched maybe the last 20 minutes (maybe) and I liked the Destiny footage (though it's not exclusive in any way, shape, or form)
NumOnePS3FanBoy  +   396d ago
As a gamer I am not worried about sony delivering. Hello they still are giving us new ip's this year for the ps3.
DoesUs  +   396d ago
PS4 titles are being played on the show floor, you know...where people can play them? PS4 is more powerful, you're just going to have to deal with it. But keep cashing the MS cheques ...shill.
SignifiedSix91  +   395d ago
LMFAO, i like how anyone who supports microsoft and likes the One, are blatantly called "shills".

Keep on wearing that tinfoil hat, buddy.
DoesUs  +   395d ago
Not at all, but its easy to spot genuine from ...non genuine, and Green has been around for years. Will defend ANYTHING MS to the hilt and then some, nearly always ignoring facts, and truly spews some of the most idiotic things i've read anywhere. Maybe you should look through his history and his previous accounts like PowerOf Green, Why Dis, to name but another 2. Been banned many times before.But hey...Whatever floats your boat.
Intentions  +   396d ago
I'm getting whatever console, depending on what bundles they have to offer.

<< Not getting any of them at launch
<< Waiting for 2 controller bundle with games
<< Will eventually get both, first console will be determined by game release/bundle

And to mention that they are both crazy as expensive where I live :/
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mmccarthy4  +   396d ago
It's a shame such a reasonable response has so much downvotes
Hicken  +   396d ago
It's really not all that reasonable, though.

If everything were equal, that'd be one thing. But one console is considerably less than ideal.
SignifiedSix91  +   395d ago
Its obviously because he didn't mention PlayStation...

I don't get this site at all.

I know which one I'm going for first. The Xbox One. They showed more games that i was interested in. Especially Project Spark.
Moonman  +   396d ago
STFU kindly. ;p
jc48573  +   396d ago
consumers are the main people that need to be well informed about what they are buying. I think Sony did the absolute right thing. You'll be amazed how many consumers are oblivious of what they are buying.
Tee7soo  +   396d ago
xbox one
MORE LIKE XBOX DONE
I GOT 99 PROBLEMS, BUT IT AINT THE ONE!
safsaan  +   396d ago
so xbox is not a problem?
reef1017  +   396d ago
Someone needs to have there temperature checked!
coolasj  +   396d ago
The article list Below, the Jim Guthrie indie game. But, then blows off every other PS4 indie. Don't know why I click on this link in the first place.
Misterhon  +   396d ago
Seriously! People are b*tching about the few games that were shown by sony, but think about this: Why show all your first party titels in one show, when u can spread them over upcoming months following the consoles release? This is Sony and they have never let us down with the first party PS3 games. Why would it be different with the PS4?
GraveLord  +   396d ago
I think people expected Sony to blow their load at E3. If they did that, they'd have nothing to show at Gamescom or TGS.

Besides, Knack, Killzone, Driveclub + a dozen or so multiplats + 9 exclusive indies...you couldn't ask for more at launch. There's something for everyone.

Then there's still the amazing PS3 games coming later this year. Don't forget about The Last Of US, Beyond Two Souls, Grand Theft Auto V...etc..etc.
GraveLord  +   396d ago
LOL. Consumers are gamers. Besides, games like Battlefield 4, Call of Duty Ghosts and Metal Gear Solid V.....also coming to PS4.
IG-88  +   396d ago
"Ryse: Son of Rome looks like it could be the best game ever set in that era"

Rome Total War 1 and 2 has something to say about that!

really for me the only exclusive that made me as someone who is pro PlaySation say I wish that was for the PS4 was TitanFall and who knows if TitanFall will stay exclusive to the XboxOne, 360, PC rumor has it it is only a one year exclusive deal but who really knows.
a_bro  +   396d ago
EA publishes the game. Obviously it will lol
Skynetone  +   396d ago
the stand out titles for me

Tom Clancy's The Division /unbelievable
watchdogs /unbelievable

titanfall /looks bad azz
ryse /well you just know gow will kick its azz
dead rising 3 /looked great didn't like the call in an airstrike at the end of the demo, just give me a bunch of grenades

sure theres more, mgs etc etc

unfortunately titanfall is a one year exclusive for the xbox, they can beta test it for a year while I check out battlefield 3 / destiny / etc etc

ill take the superior ports for the rest of this gen, only on ps4
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d_dogg2007  +   396d ago
Everything is null if those so called games that are better cannot be played! Plus we forgetting 3/4 of those games were multiplaform? Come on Sony is the only one with a reputation of delivering game after game just look at this years ps3 line-up! This is xbox last gen its a cancer and it needs to disappear! I don't even feel bad for xbox gamers you simply put have extremely poor taste in gaming!
slimpickens  +   396d ago
Loved the games from both consoles. Will choose the console of my choice if not both.
brettyd  +   396d ago
Sony didn't need to show us a ton of exclusive games because gamers trust them to deliver, they put out several great exclusives a year. I'd take Second Son over anything MS showed.
SpinalRemains  +   396d ago
Lmao!

Right, because ps4 users won't be gamers.

Who the hell approved this?

I truly think that people do not think prior to writing. They just type brain farts.

Did MS show some great looking games?
Yes they did. Will they have more exclusives than Sony? No they do not.

Even if the One had 80 exclusives, the rules and taxes and absurdity of the approach and changing of what gaming means, means its just an awful mess and a pariah to gamers.

How is anything Xbox one related good for gamers. For every exclusive title, there are 2 ludicrous restrictions coupled with fees.

It is by far the crappiest gaming machine ever made.
golding89  +   396d ago
It is by far the crappiest gaming machine ever made. ?

lol

cmon dude.. must you troll that badly?

lol..smh
SpinalRemains  +   396d ago
Look.

We're not talking about a weak system or a new system or anything related to what you call trolling.

We're talking about a system which radically redefines ownership, tells you what and who you're allowed to game with in your own home, and completely strips the ability to rent. It is an awful step in the wrong direction.

Please understand that what you call "trolling", I call defending videogames.

Maybe you weren't playing Pitfall when you were 5, and grew up lending games and swapping and owning what you paid for. I don't know. I do know that I did, and I would like for all of us to continue to be able to do that.

In one generations time MS went from charging for online to the mess they have now. Do you honestly think for one second it gets any better for us from here on out? It will get worse! You're feeding the beast, man. It will return hungrier and greedier next time.

Unless......, we all tell MS that these policies are not wanted. If that means not buying it because you believe in your position, then so be it.

But that is not trolling, sir. The machine for all it stands for, is the worst thing to EVER happen to gaming.
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golding89  +   396d ago
@SpinalRemains lol dude chill.. i understand this whole lending games is crap from microsoft and online crap.. i haven't decided i will get it yet.. maybe when price drop but to come out here and say it is the "worst" console ever..lol thats trolling buddy..no way in hell any last gen consoles comes close to the power of the xbox one literally lol..so you are talking out of your ass.
SpinalRemains  +   396d ago
Golding,

You're only looking at the games and what they look like. That's myopic.

Every generation and console consists of more than just what the games look like. There are policies in place right now that alter everything we love, for the worse.

I have backed up all of my claims rationally and without emotion. Just facts.

You compare a game on One to look better than a 360 and call me a troll.

You neither understand what everyone is debating, nor know the definition of troll. You actually believe that anyone who dislikes Xbox One is a troll.

Here's a clue. Trolls bring no facts and cannot debate. They spew blind statement in order to upset ppl and then they leave abruptly.

I'm still here and you still have not stated one fact other than One games look better than 360 games. Are you even being serious with that one?
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golding89  +   396d ago
@SpinalRemains , ha.. i don't remember me mentioning xbox 360..I know i did say past generation consoles as a whole..I guess all past consoles were able to do everything the xbox one can currently do..such as instant gaming while downloading, kinect voice intergrated, and updated xbox live dashboard, an onscreen multitasking consoles...etc..but no yea according to you i guess all this makes it the "worst" console ever..lol get a life dude..

if you hate the xbox one so much then start a support group.
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mmccarthy4  +   396d ago
I think he is just saying that ms delivered in the games department and he likes the games ms has to offer. I think if sony saved it's all it's game announcement for e3 there would be more buzz but we already seen killzone and infamous. However the anti drm policies make a great statement for consumers
jerethdagryphon  +   395d ago
after sonys reveal in febuary gamers had questions

sonys e3 conference answered almost all of them,
what does it look like, Modern art sculpture (to me anyways)

how much, 350£ 399$
what about drm. minimal.

they took there time they also showed what the reveals tech demos evolved into

dark sorcerer funny ass mini film weather it becomes a game or not its a good demo
showcaseing facial animations, remember dark sorcrer wasnt pre renderered but was effectivly gameplay footage, realtime rendering animation and lighting, not interactive obviously.

they showed indie support because that was a focus they wanted to show, they showed longer and evovled footage from there reveal exclusives,

i wasnt disapointed i expected a few more boring ass shooters but they wernt there so im happy
smashcrashbash  +   396d ago
Who ever wrote this.That is the dumbest thing I ever heard.And to make it worse you are trying to defend the very people who just a short time ago practically tossed you to the side promising games later while trying to fuel their own competitive agenda to compete for the television.I mean what do you think gamers are? Potatoes? Gamers are consumers too.And may I point out to people like greenpowerz who won't shut the hell up wasn't Microsoft not to long ago not showing any demos or much of anything else for their reveal and people like you were defending that fact despite everything we said? Now suddenly you are attacking Sony for not having live demos which they did in their reveal that you guys put down so much.

Even worse are the people who are constantly crying that Sony didn't wow you with their games when they showed games that are coming to the Xbox One as well.Microsoft showed a bunch of games coming to the PS4 as well but why are you wowed by those and not Sony's.KH3 is something that people have wanted for years but somehow you are less wowed because it isn't exclusive.Then why aren't you less wowed by the games that Microsoft showed that weren't theirs? You know why? because like many fanboys you are bias SOBs who just jump around changing the argument in your favor as soon as it suits you.

I'll bet you would have been impressed by KH3 and the new Assassins Creed if Microsoft showed it off but because it is Sony that showed it you pretend to be less impressed.You are impressed by a whole bunch of games just about everyone is getting that Microsoft showed but you aren't impressed with a whole bunch of games just about everyone is getting that Sony show.The only reason everything was new from Microsoft is because they barely showed anything all.If they had showed much of anything in the first place they wouldn't have much to show now would they? I mean for the love of God just stop it already.Sony gave Microsoft several kicks to the face since their reveal and they and their supporters are still scrambling to recover from it with every excuse they could think of the same excuses that if had come from Sony fans would be called damage control.Most of you STILL can't admit Microsoft's reveal sucked out loud because that is exactly what Microsoft fanboys do.They make BS predictions and when they don't come true they pretend that it never happened or move on to something else. I am still laughing about how fanboys were so damn sure Sony's PS4 would be more expensive or equal to the Xbox One until they dropped the price on you.And now you will either pretend that was never said or try to spin it in your favor or try to find something else to gripe about.
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WeAreLegion  +   396d ago
TL;DR...

But I agree with the first few sentences I got through. So, bubbles!
Neko_Mega  +   396d ago
Something that limits me from doing what I did with past consoles and wants me to pay to access something I already have access to.

Isn't really more for gamers then something that doesn't do that.
jjb1981  +   396d ago
If Sony wanted, they could bring planetside 2 to ps4.
brettyd  +   396d ago
Are you being sarcastic? because they are bringing it to PS4.
jjb1981  +   396d ago
Yes I am... Just sayin'
IG-88  +   396d ago
Planetside 2 is coming to the PS4

http://www.joystiq.com/2013...
Bathyj  +   396d ago
MS did a good job at showing the games, I give them that. I guess Sonys didnt wow as much cos we'd seen them already but I still think they were right to reveal like they did. And Killzone and Second Son look brilliant.

Plus, when it comes to games, I know Sony has that covered, I dont even have to worry about it, its in the bag. We still have to see Naughty Dog, Media Molecule, and better look at Santa Monicas title. Games are a given on Playstation. MS were the ones that had to prove that and they did a good job on that side of things.

The best thing Sony did was the slew of information thats come out addressing EVERYTHING else. They put all of our fears to rest and then some in no uncertain terms. No dodgy politicians answers. MS hasnt done any of that. If anything theyve just confirmed that some are true and not really addressed the others. They havent put anything to rest.

Anyway, when I'm looking at consoles, I'm looking at games, the hardware and how the maker treats is customers. The total package.
chavafx  +   396d ago
actually the sony conferense whas very boring and 40 mins
of games that are on the xbox one but they win just because of no drm + 399$

but on the game department xbox one did very good
ohbaby  +   396d ago
Sure is nice to see that the stupid fanboy war will be alive and kicking come next gen. SMH. Grow up people please.
Mounce  +   396d ago
This article is quite desperate.....and pathetic.

Sony's conference apparently wasn't good for Gamers. At all. Especially Sony's conference was NOT about Gamers who are Consumers....now that's Totalllly ridiculous[/sarcasm]
Magnus  +   396d ago
I was pleased the news I was waiting for was announced and it was all good.
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fardan85  +   396d ago
This is gotta be the most idiotic article I ever read, who approved this?
Let's give credit where it's due, first, MS showed some new exclusive IP which is a step in the right direction.
2nd, oh shit there's nothing else.
MS is about to rape the gamers and we have the author saying the conference was better for gamers. Showing few new IPs isn't enough from MS. Just check all the annoying-hobby killing restrictions in X1. Look at what's best for gamers, X1 isn't gamer friendly.
And btw, Gamers are consumers.
Sony already revealed few new IPs for PS4, Unlike MS, Sony got 3 systems to support. Plus, Sony doesn't need to show 1000s of games to impress gamers, all old + new gamers knows that Sony will deliver on ps4.
I'm a happy proud owner of ps1,2,3. never been disappointed with Sony.
Just look at we get, on ps2 era we got GOW at the end of cycle.
On Ps3, we're getting The Last Of Us, Beyond, GT6..etc
In the end, if you want X1 then go ahead, no one will stop you. Just don't lead people in wrong direction by indicating to false stuffs like "MS conference was better for gamers".
refocusedman  +   396d ago
This article was pretty lame. The reason that microsoft had that many exclusives was because they didnt show any games during their reveal where as sony showed 5. Although MS did have quite a few reveals, a CG image that states a game is coming out is completely useless. At least 6 of those games were CG. MS has some promising titles but the only one that had that wow factor was titanfall.
palaeomerus  +   396d ago
I have to be both a gamer and a consumer since I buy my own games. Sony FTW this time.

Drops mic.
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