"I mean the analogy, and I don't know if it's a great analogy… let's say I live in an area that doesn't have cell service. I wouldn't go buy a cell phone. Now, I might roam in different areas where my cellphone becomes active."
Phil Spencer just dodged the questions really. I still don't understand why its mandatory to sign in at least once a day.
Either to see if the game is a legal copy or you still own it.
Or maybe phil spencer that you might not get that big fat bonus check you were promised if MS is not successful.
hahaha and the show goes on! what they dont know is that sometimes i freaking dont want to be online.
So should all smartphones apps stop working if you dont check in every 24hrs Phil? Such bullsh!t, keep digging MS, keep digging. Arrogant bastards
It's because the Xbox One is more than just a gamming console... its a digital parole officer!
"I mean the analogy, and I don't know if it's a great analogy… let's say I live in an area that doesn't have cell service. I wouldn't go buy a cell phone." I mean that says it all...X1 is a online console, dont buy it if you dont want to be connected or live in a area that doesnt have internet. Thank fully I like the benefit of being connected where my content goes wherever I go.
That doesn't make sense considering that they require us to install the game and gives us the option of playing the game without the disc being in the drive.
@JokesOnYou Joke's on you
that's when you know he's DESPERATE! "I mean the analogy, and I don't know if it's a great analogy…" - NO, PHIL! THAT's not a great analogy, in fact, it's STUPID! you can't put the XBone in your pocket now is it? your phones doesn't REQUIRE you to be online once everyday is it? and you don't get to buy discs for your phone's apps are you? see how STUPID that analogy is?
@JokesOnYou You better not decide to take your Xbox to a place without an internet connection.
Is it so bad with internet in America? In europe 100 MBps cost 12 euro(16 USD) a month ( even in poorest european countries slowest connection is 10mbps which cost 7 euro). I was living in a small town before with only a little over 1000 people living there... I had 50mbps connection as cheap as bread.
^its horrible in America...Horrible... I live about 90 miles west of Pittsburgh, PA...a fairly 'normal' sized city in the US. I do have broadband access, but without a cable TV package, the cost starts at $60 a month after your 6 months of reduced price for being a new customer...and there is only a single provider available in my area... if i drive 15 miles from my home, in nearly any direction...broadband isn't available for residential customers...only businesses can access it, and only by paying through the teeth to have the wires run... i won't even talk about mobile broadband, we're lucky to have voice calls... While it is true that nearly any urban area has no problem with broadband access...urban areas don't even make up a quarter of the country...Just a 1 hour drive into the pocono mountains from New York City, and they don't even know what broadband is... this is very common in a lot of the US...this place is still 70%+ farm land. Its almost a 100% guarantee at this point after sony's announcements; MS is going to drop that always on thing...there is NO WAY they'll remotely put up a fight if they keep that policy...
@JOY So you've never had connection issues? And you don't think people should be able to enjoy SP games without internet because Xbone is nonsensically "an online (required) console"? Stop trying so hard with your "OH U DONT HAZ INTERNET AT ALL? XBAUX IS ONLINE SYSTEM!" crap. Do you EVER get tired of sucking up anything the Microsoft corporation feeds you?
His explanation doesn't even make sense and is almost insulting he thinks we'll buy it! The products he's taking about have no problem letting you play local content if you go offline and the media he's taking about is small or streamable! I'm not going to go away from my home console and download a flipping bluray sized game just to play it! But you know what I might do? Bring my disc! His answer doesn't even apply and there is no real excuse other than anti consumerist, draconian DRM!
Here's Don Mattrick's recommendation for those who don't have internet connections: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
They can still keep their DRM policies by only requiring connections during game installs. Their is no need to require check-ins every 24 hours.
What a tool. You can do all of that on your PS4. It's a BS lie. Just like EA tried to spin SimCity is an MMO BS
I hope you fanboys do know that you're only making MS stronger. When fanboys bitched about games, look what happened e3. Now we wait for their next move on this.
You're calling people "fanboys" when you are one obvious diehard MS fanboy.
You know, at the beginning of this current gen, Microsoft was criticized for monetizing online play with Live. Turns out, they were right; it was a bold move that proved hugely successful. The criticisms today aren't any different, they're taking bold steps to connect users with each other and their content and they'll be proven right again. Case in point, look at Sony's attempt to now monetize online play on the PS4 after realizing how successful a model it was. The internet has a vocal community but it's the minority. I think sometimes, it's better to just take a wait and see approach to see the benefits to users rather than leveling criticism.
Uh, what? You know if they backtrack on this that it will be very humiliating for their corporate image, right? Also, it wasn't just "fanboys" (ahh, the throwing around of that word when somebody has an opinion you don't like) criticising MS for their original reveal, a lot of Xbox fans were unimpressed as well. If you think all the criticism is just coming from trolls and fanboys, well you've got your head deeper in the sand than Microsoft do.
@ dennett316 I don't think fanboys and trolls are the only ones with criticisms. I think there is general concern that Microsoft's policy could disenfranchise some users but that's a small minority I believe and I believe the numbers will bear this out in the end. If you read what Phil Spencer said, you see Microsoft's thinking.
Then you should be happy we have been bitching... Can you imagine what the MS E3 would have been like if there had not been all this rage.. you would have had another 1hr+ of TV, sports, more tv, sports... and they would have showed 10 sec teasers for all the games.
@ Stanlee You know you don't have to own an always online console to be connected. MS could have done the same dam thing with xbone with out always online.
What an ignorant statement. A lot of these "fanboys", including myself and all my friends, were Xbox 360 owners but are now reluctantly switching to PS4. Only a true fanboy would still stand up for MS after the incredible amount of anti consumerist, draconian principles they are trying to push on us! We just don't want to support such an evil company and shame on anyone who defends them! I mean even this guys explanation is offensive in that he basically insulting us thinking we are stupid enough not to realize his statements don't even apply to the always on DRM. If it was just a service so we can connect anywhere, why can't we play single player games without internet? You can on the devices he's talking about! The answerer is he is lying! It's nothing about this and everything about DRM and his explanation doesn't even make sense. I mean, if I'm away from my home console, I can't stream the game to another device and I'm not going to download a bluray sized game just to play! This model doesn't even apply to games! He's lying to us! And you defend him!
"Any other device that you own, your library is digital. Frankly, if you're on the PC, or a Steam customer, or an App Store customer on iOS devices -- this is how you think about your library of content." PHIL!! I don't need to check in with Apple every 24 hours to use the content I download from the App Store. I don't need to check in with Steam every 24 hours to use the content I download from Steam. Are you following me? This is quite significantly different. Do you know what DID require constant check-ins to play? Sim City 4. Diablo 3. These games were PANNED by fans for that policy. People hated it. You shouldn't be going down this road.
GameCenter on your iphone is constantly "checking in" while you play. Steam does the same thing when you boot up your computer or launch a Steam game.
Death - Gamecenter doesn't work if you don't set up an account. The games will still work without a problem. You won't receive achievements and such, but it's not a mandatory feature.
It's not mandatory, but it limits the gaming experience. If you want to use the online features, you need to set it up. Phil is essentially saying the XboxOne is geared towards customers that want the full experience of being connected. It's not marketed towards people looking for a purely offline system. If Microsoft had close to 50 million Live subscribers, they are targeting them as potential customers, His analogy about cell phones sums it up. You aren't going to buy a cellphone if you aren't going to subscribe to cell service. Sure, you can still use the calculator in it, but at that point you should probably just buy a calculator.
Death, of course not going online with your games limits the features and experience. That's a no-brainer. But having online features as an option to expand the experience, and requiring online in order to play any of the experience AT ALL, are two totally different things.
@ Death Steam does not Check in when you boot up your PC and you can start steam in offline mode.
@Death - Nobody wants a purely offline or online system, people want CHOICE. This systems takes choice out of the equation, which means if your internet goes down, or XBL servers go down, or your network hardware gets damaged at some point for more than 24 hours, you are basically left without a gaming system. MS is basically pushing their consumers towards PS4. They are basically saying, "You can buy a PS4 for the times when the internet is off", which is the stupidest decision ever.
That feature is the stupidest thing I ever heard of. MS shot themselves in the foot with this one.