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E3 2013 Conferences. Microsoft vs Sony

AlienLion writes:

"We’ve all waited for exactly a year and survived through a freaking apocalypse to get here, the end of June 10th, 2013. Arguably, the part of E3 we all give a crap about the most (let’s be honest) is over and there it’s time to try and make sense of it all. Well, not it all. Let’s concentrate on the two guys for whom today was of particular significance, the guys who will be launching their next generation hardware this very year. You know the guys…"

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Count3969d ago

As much as it pains me to say this. And as much as I hate each and every one of you Sony fanboys.

Sony won this.

Enemy3969d ago

Join us. We promise we'll let you keep your soul.

No DRM at all, no mandatory online, self-publishing for indie developers, $399, upgradable hard drive, a ridiculously huge library of indie games already, 8GB GDDR5 RAM

VS

Timed exclusives, DRM, 24 hour check-in, $500

http://www.xboxdone.com

JokesOnYou3969d ago

Games= advantage X1
Restrictions= advantage ps4
Price= advantage ps4

Drekken3969d ago

JOY - You can't be serious... do you really think the PS4 doesn't have games coming from 1st party studios that hasn't even been shown yet? MS can only rely on 3rd party studios for exclusives.

The rumor going around is FFXV is exclusive and Sony has been helping with development. If true, I really don't think even you can take yourself serious.

BallsEye3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

@JokesOnYou

Price advantage only because you have less things in it.

xbox one - 499$ - included kinect and xbox live gold for 1 year (dunno how much kinect can cost alone but 1y xbox live is 50$)

ps4 - 399$ - only console included. If you'd add ps eye and subscription to it would be way over 500$

@Drekken

MS can rely only on third party for exclusives?? Do you even know what you're talking about?? 15 exclusives this year ONLY FROM MS STUDIOS + whatever third party will bring.

Commodore3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Drekken, I think he only means in terms of the press conference....I've been a PS fan since PS1 and I'll admit Xbox showed some more games. Titan Fall looks good.

But they've already got 40 in-house games being developed for the PS4? The games will follow. Not too mention we already have Infamous, Killzone, and a few other games at launch. Can't beat it.

Surprised SONY never mentioned Agent or the Last Guardian. Perhaps at Gamescom. Perhaps they get showed at Gamescom or TGS...whcih is my strong belief that they will.

.....And I know it's multi plat....but Destony looked hell a fun.

Drekken3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Commodore - See that is all a matter of opinion. To me the best games shown were at the Sony conference.

It is a shame about titanfall, but I have a PC. I will play it there. Ryse is a qte fest.

I think Sony knocked it out the park: FFXV, KH3, Infamous, and killzone all look fun. The Order even looked great... werewolves! Destiny did look like fun. I am a sucker for leveling up with friends.

I wish Agent and others were mentioned last night, but they did what they had to do to secure a clear E3 victory. The games are coming. I can't wait to see what GG (besides killzone), Santa Monica, and ND have up their sleeves. They are the reason I buy the Playstation.

djsandman3969d ago

Uhm drekken please elaborate because Sony showed a lot of multi platform. A lot of CGI and ffxv and kingdom hearts are coming to Xbox?

Drekken3969d ago

djsandman - If you played a PS3 this gen you know the exclusives are coming and they are going to blow people away.

Enemy3969d ago

JokesOnYou: What games? Timed exclusives? Give us a list of all the games Microsoft announced that actually belong to them.

The Order, The Dark Sorcerer, Killzone: SF, Knack, Drive Club, and inFamous: SS are all owned by Sony. Once these games sink in with the public, the next round of exclusives will be announced, and so on.

Sony did exactly what they had to do yesterday. Hope you're ready for another massacre at GamesCom.

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BallsEye3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

I however think MS nailed it. Just forget about DRM (which I don't really care about, I always buy new games and always play online) the games they showed were awesome! Plenty of exclusives, tons of gameplay, no tv movie and music talk crap! Sony however spent most of time talkin about media, there was Destiny which is awesome but it IS MULTIPLATFORM and comes to xbox one, so do other games they showed at their press conference. Total lack of exclusives which now made me thinking why the same people that were laughing at MS for lack of games on e3, praise sony once more eventho they showed NOTHING. What's going on, seriouslY?

nugnugs3969d ago

Oh okay. Listen everyone, he said just forget about DRM, so.....

cleft53969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Sony destroyed Microsoft. This move on their part is going to force Microsoft to back peddle on these horrific decisions of theirs and treat their consumers like customers as oppose to thieves. For the first time, I am genuinely excited for the next-generation of games.

pompombrum3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Microsoft destroyed themselves. Sony had an easy decision to make and that decision alone won them E3.

@below - After the backlash and the twitter campaigns, I really do think it was a fairly easy decision to make. You also have to think of the other implications like retail support. If the PS4 makes the trading of used games easier, retailers like Gamestop and GAME will be wanting to push the console further.. same with rental services too. EA might be bitter about it but they're not going to suddenly stop supporting the ps brand because they're all about the $$$ and they'd be losing a lot more money if they went Xbox exclusive.

cleft53969d ago

No way that decision was easy to make. Did you notice that there where no EA games shown at their press conference? Who do you think wanted to control used games more than anyone? All of a sudden EA has no online game pass and then there is a bunch of talk of DRM on used games.

If anything they where discussing this for a while now and decided to go for blood. Sony could have just as easily done what Microsoft did and had a $399 price tag and still won E3. This was the move of legends on Sony part and I am not going to under play it by thinking it was easy to do.

Redempteur3969d ago

@cleft5

There was PS4 games at the EA conf.

FIFA,NBA LIVE, NFS will be on PS4.

And besides it was Microsoft that gave a check to EA....Just like Sony gave a check to EA 3 years ago.

nix3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

and before the conference started one of the MS executives said "let's kill sony."

hahaha.. look where that went.

i remember watching the video of Steve Ballmer when Google was moving in mobile sector, Ballmer said, "welcome to our world."

look where that went. MS really really needs to wake up and smell the coffee because their arrogance is really going to bring them down.

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EdoubleD3969d ago

Microsoft may have shown more games. But there will never be a justification for all those restrictions.

Sony wins by a clear mile.

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Why The Game Industry Needs In-Person Shows Despite The End Of E3

Skewed and Reviewed kick off 2024 with a look at the need for in-person game conventions with the End of E3 and compares the cost-cutting methods of Hollywood who still value in-person events.

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gold_drake112d ago

so, this article didnt tell me why we NEED to have in-person shows like e3, other than the authors nostalgia and remembrance of covering one of these shows.

but it also doesnt mention everyone outside of america who have never had the chance to see it in person either haha
we had to watch the darn livestream, if they had it available, at 3am in the morning haha with lags amd crashes (not all the time)

while i think these shows are great and all, i dont really "need" to have them. people are busy, im busy. id rather watch a livestream than to book a flight, a hotel etc.

but theres still pax and all of that.

Garethvk112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

I did mention that you cannot have hands-on and meetings with key people and the excitement. Europe has Gamescom and had Paris Games Week and N.A
Needs an industry event again.

A Livestream does not even come close to what was lost. I much prefer seeing and playing the games in person and asking questions to developers and marketing people versus watching talking heads doing shtick on a scripted showcase with a carefully edited video.

gold_drake112d ago

"need" is a strong word for it, imo.

"good to have it" would be a better way to describe it.

and sure, gamescom is in se germanland, paris week in .. paris.

most people dont rly care for it anymore. they either tune in to a livestream or vod or read about it online.

but opinions are opinions. if u think we Need them, then there ya go.

Garethvk112d ago

I think the industry needs them. The rank and file public not as much but our coverage is greatly limited via livestreams compared to what it was to say nothing of streams. Hands on previews Re very limited as well as we used to play big games months before release.

ApocalypseShadow112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

I get what you're saying. In person is always preferable with a hands on. Because there are those like myself that like to try before buying. That likes physical mostly over digital.

But having said that, I think it's more *your personal need* than a need for the industry itself. You need to be the middleman giving your point of view, possibly your own personal bias or subjectivity or objectivity to the equation. *We* as gamers don't actually NEED it. We can come to the same conclusions, positive or negative about a game as you can.

Companies like Sony or Nintendo used to sit back and watch others give their take on things that were negative to the message or had an agenda. Especially during the PS3 era of website bias, swag bags, advertising hand shakes, biased video, free laptops, etc.

Companies like Sony took the reigns and decided to let their base see for themselves what the games look like, than through the eyes of some journalists, bloggers and vloggers looking to cash in on click bait and advertising.

Delivering their message directly to the consumer killed a lot of that nonsense. You see the developers, you see the game, and in many cases, you can speak to these developers on discord than worrying about some article's take on something.

It's not that I want you to become obsolete. But for some, I'm glad it killed their business practices. Also, we live in an era where these games could be streamed directly to the consumers after the presentation from Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft that gives that hands on of a game. They just have to implement that technology and make it high quality without latency. And *WE* as gamers can speak to each other on a preferred media platform and give our opinions on the gameplay we just experienced. Many journalists have not been fully honest on games before release because they fear losing their backstage pass and free gifts. We would know just by playing if a game is something we want. Remote play is possible now without lines, without expensive trips, etc.

To close, Sony has sold mostly 50 million PS5 consoles, over 110 million PS4 consoles and Nintendo has sold over 120 million consoles without a journalist take. They delivered their message and it's still reaching the consumers they are targeting without spending the millions of dollars on in person setup at a venue

I get what you're saying. I lived through the whole era when E3 was created and watched. But I don't need it and never been to one. And really don't need a journalist to tell me what to like or dislike.

EvertonFC112d ago

The ques for 1 game were 4 hours long for the most part, that's NOT fun.

S2Killinit112d ago

The problem with live shows was that it became all smoke and mirrors and a show of things not related to gaming. Therefore I would argue that it added a new layer of cost to the game developers and console holders that necessarily will need to made up for. Either we the consumer have to pay for that cost or the developer/manufacturer will have to bear the cost thereby taking away from profits leading to smaller studios dying out.

Remember xbox buying celebrities to make appearances? Thats a good example of unnecessary cost.

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JackBNimble112d ago

You don't need to go to the movies either, you can sit on your ass and watch any number of streams but that doesn't make it any better then actually going out.

This generation has become so spoiled and lazy.

gold_drake112d ago

booking a flight and a hotel aint the same as going to the movies, but pop off i guess ha.

Garethvk112d ago

Streaming cannot replace the communal experience of event films.

EvertonFC112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

Actually it does, for one it's cheaper eating my own snacks at home than over priced pi** take cinema prices. 2 it's About £150 to take the family to the cinema or £15 for a new cinema release and watch at home on my awesome 4k TV.
3 We can pause the film when needed, sit in the warmth of our home and have no di*kheads talking through the movie.
That's called using your brain, not being lazy or spoiled dude.

TheColbertinator112d ago

I'd rather publishers send out closed betas to garner gamer concern and interest like how we had demos back in the day.

I don't miss E3 as much as I loved it at one point but that era is long gone.

Garethvk112d ago

There is a need but refinement was and is needed.

Zenzuu112d ago

Sad to see it go. It was a great event for gamers and developers all around the world getting together and celebrate gaming as a community.

The announcements of new games/hardware, hype, surprises and seeing live audience reactions, it's something only events like E3 are able to bring. It will be missed...

hombreacabado112d ago

if its going to be anything like the game awards where celebrities that dont even play games are there and its just full of fluff and commercial crap than no we dont need in person shows. we just end up watching the trailer montages the next day anyway.

Shiro173112d ago

To be honest E3 was one of my favorite times of the years when I was younger. I couldn't wait for all the big conferences and new announcements. It was hype even if nothing good was announced we had cringe moments to laugh at.

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The Rise and Fall of E3

Rest in peace, E3. It may be easy to understand why you wasted away, but you will be missed.

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Terry_B131d ago

Nah..it won't be missed. Times changed.

mastershredder129d ago (Edited 129d ago )

E3 pre-2005 will be missed, everything after than ain't even close or worthy of mention to be missed. Late 90's E3's were phenominal, especially the after parties.

Dwarrior129d ago

Those that scoff and hand-wave it away are kids that were never there. Peak E3 was peak gaming.

It already IS missed.

darthv72129d ago

"$299".... and the rest was history.

jznrpg129d ago

It’s been dead for a good while so I don’t miss it. Things change

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Remembering the most chaotic trade show, E3

Pour one out for E3; it's finally deader than the dodo.

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