While the US press release for the PlayStation 4 mentioned details about games, used games and pricing, it did not confirm all of the specs for the console.
Wooooooow. So a PS4 + camera combo is still cheaper than an Xbox One.
Yep. Didn't realize it wasn't included before I preordered it but oh well. Not like I need it for Killzone and Battlefield Oh and it's cheaper than when the first KInect came out. Crazy.
they will do a bundle for $450 that includes the camera. That is a savings of $10 from buying them individually. Im for that but if not...i will get the camera by itself. @jc485... but there is a benefit to the consumer if they did make it part of the complete package. Not mandatory to use but if one came with each ps4 it would mean that everyone who buys a ps4 gets one and devs would know that and use it if they saw the opportunity.
If the PS Eye is compatible, I will just use that device, but I rarely use it anyway unless I'm video chatting with friends, but even then, you can still just use your headset anyway.
more gifs are on the rise http://i.imgur.com/U9KSMga....
i will buy a PS4 for myself and ask for the PS4Eye as a present :)
I don't think the EYE is a mandatory gimmick like the Kinect.
The Kinect is far more superior in tech than the ps eye/move combo.
@Koolaid251 So what? It can be 20 years ahead of tech (which is not just and exagerated example), cost a million of USD and it does not change the fact that its a gimmick
To me it's not about whether or not it's a gimmick. It's about choice. The choice of not paying to have a camera in your home that you may find out 5 years later that is being used by governments or has been hacked by 3rd parties even though they claimed otherwise. And MS does not allow the choice of buying their gaming console without a high quality camera/microphone combo, integral to the system. Deal breaker for me. Period.
you hear that M$? "ADD"! "ON"! THAT's how you do things! not slap it as mandatory and then price your "lower-than-PS4" spec cable box a whooping 100 quid more! if you really love the thing so much to make it mandatory, why not integrate it INSIDE the box in the first place? ironic that your slogan is "all in ONE, input ONE" when the device itself is a TWO!
It's 100 bucks more, not 100 quid. So 60-80 quid more.
ah...my bad! you're right!
@Cam if you exchange the currency nrate its $160 more here jn the UK.
Ya, I'd guess it doesn't come close to doing what the Kinect 2 does though.
Do you want it to? Honest question...
No, I only have enough money to buy them both with only one of them doing what Kinect does. It's going to be the best gen of them all yet for games.
Yeah....you're probably right. Thank god we don't have to actually have it then, because it sounds like a piece of junk. I'll take a $100 savings over a camera any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
IF I was Sony I would release a bunde at $499 that included the camera and a 1 year playstation plus membership that would kick ass!
The best thing is to leave it at 399 and find a game to bundle the camera with. Like how the wiimote was bundled with Wii Play. It's just great advertisement for The PS4 to have that 100 dollars less price tag. They can pack the camera in next year.
I was completely prepared to pay 500...... Sony just saved me money...WTF?!!
Or another 100 to spend on games. ;)
Yeah, definitely glad we don't HAVE to have it or anything. Although I probably will get one anyway at some point.
NOT BAD! I think ill buy the PS4 eye if an eye of judgement comes out for PS4.. I wonder if i can swap HDDs like on PS3.. Anyway, hows the battery life on the dual shock? & it seems as if i can still use my pulse headphones with this so im good! Damn im so effin excited!!! U can get the PS4 & the camera cheaper than xbox one.. PS4 comes with a mono headset too, i dont think M$ is including one... None of the 360 accessories (including headsets/headphones) will be compatible lol..
Eyedentify.... Wanna see that game come back from the grave.
or a upgraded version of the video recording app "PSEye"
They better allow me to swap it out, I have one twice as big in my ps3. <.<'
I thought the PS3 wont read anything higher than 750GB.. I only have a 500GB in mine & still have about 100GB left in it.. The 500 that comes with PS4 should be just fine for a long time.. U dont have to install everything like xbox one so it should last.. The wii u deluxe is $350 with only 32GB of storage lol.. PS4 took a poo on every competitor there is.. Its going to be a hot item this holiday for sure being that its only $400... I already payed one off & ima go deposit $50 on another later today if i get a chance to sell later or help out a friend in need
The light bar of the DS4 controller, might not be used at all from many knowing the PS4 Eye is not included in the bundle.
I expect their will be some games in the future that will either use it for something or have it as an added option. One of the cooler aspects they mentioned back in Feb was how the PS4 could track the position of a controller and change the split screen orientation. Anyway it is nice that it is optional and also not expensive either.
Yeah im wondering what its for now maybe they scrapped an included camera to get it at a cheaper price point than the one or is the light bar just to differentiate between multiple players when gaming on the same console...
I was wondering this too. Was kinda hoping they would of included it but no big deal.
The light bar doesn't require the camera. It will still be in use. They didn't have a camera at E3 yet everyone that had a Dualshock 4 in their hand still had a light bar.
The lightbar on the DS4 is seen by the camera and functions like the move did. You can't use the controllers feature without the camera.
Btw when is it coming out? they never mentioned a release date.
Tokyo game show with a surprise sept. or oct. release date
That's what I was thinking :D October would be perfect. http://abload.de/img/399lqu...
excellent value. i already ought two ps4s. probably gonna get another one and then flip it when it gets released LOL.
Well I guess this would confirm the multiple sku rumors.
Yeah maybe one with a bigger HDD, another controller, and the camera included for $499. Or maybe add a game in that as well for that price. Then let people decide between that and the $399 one and this thing will absolutely fly off the shelves.
They need to show me why I need the camera (besides Move) in order for me to bite. The console Drive Club PS+, Killzone and maybe even Knack will be getting scooped up.
How much you charge?
its just odd that they would not ship the camera with the system when the controller will have this useless light on it leaving every1 thinking wtf!?
The main use of the light on the controller is to complement gameplay example you are dying your light starts beeping red. Emotional state- sad blue. Yoshida used Guerrilla Games’ Killzone: Shadow Fall as an example of this concept. “So it has a dual – or it could be a triple – role because game designers could use it for some effect. Like when [players are] losing HP, the colour could change from green to red. Like in the ‘Killzone’ demo, if you were watching Steven playing, [that game] has that function already.” he said. “People were watching the main screen, but Steven (the guy playing the demo) was facing the audience, showing how the light bar colour changes as he was hit by the enemy; as he lost hit points the colour was changing from green to red. And when he used the health replenishment, it went back to green.”
The light is also used to determine which controller is which. Blue for player one, red for player two, etc.
How much is Sony losing on every PS4 sold? The real winner if PS4 can't distant itself from XboxOne sales wise will be the 1 who makes the most profit or least amount of loss on each unit sold. What if Microsoft is making money day 1 off of every XboxOne sold while Sony is losing? Think about that.
You have to remember, PS4 is built with off the shelf components, this means much lower component, manufacturing, shipping and R&D cost (which is very smart) especially in comparison to the proprietary stuff that was in the PS3. The Xbox has Kinect 2 (proprietary) which increases their cost quite significantly so I wouldn't be quick to assume that one is making a loss over another.
They might have been off the shelf components but according to Sony, these components were heavily customised.
yep casuals will see the kinect and scoop it up. Still looks like a win for sony. getting both systems
Just woken up so I am on Sony ps4 news catch up , so just looking at this piece of news I'm impressed your getting a big hard drive and camera for a low price and is a optional buy? Excellent... More good news I hope! Lol.
Plus no DRM, no always online, no restrictions. And awesome first party studio games + multiplats to boot. And Gaikai is coming out next year, looking forward to hearing how that actually works.
Yay!! Lol , going to be smiling all day... :-)
the only use I see with the camera, well except for the usual, was that a character would always be looking at you when they are talking, they would look where the light of the controller is
Add-on is not the way to do it, it limits the developer interest for making games to take advantage of it. Where as if it is native then they can focus on taking advantage of those aspects.
Wow, headset with every console? That's unexpected.
That is really good. Will improve the online install base I think.
Yeah as much as I hate kinect, soccer moms love it. Causals will love going home with one box. How can you do dance central with no cam. Not for me but the casuals ate it up just like the wii last gen
What helped sony beat Microsoft is the fact that they left us gamers with a choice a choice on the ps eye always on being able to buy and sell and loan out our games and the 399 price was the icing on the cake
Sony’s Shuhei Yoshida has announced that, like the PlayStation 3, you’ll be able to upgrade the PlayStation 4′s Hard Drive. The PlayStation 4 comes with a 500GB HDD in each unit. At the moment, we’re not sure if the PlayStation 4 HDD will be 2.5 inches like the PS3′s or 3.5″. We’ll update this post when we receive more information.
I love how a lot of people (not saying anyone on here, just the internet in general) are talking up the Kinect 2 so much and counting out the Ps4 eye because of the resolution deference. The Kinect as a 1080p(@30fps)camera while the eye has two 1280x800(@60fps)cameras, which at first glance would give the Kinect an advantage but thats not factoring in the capabilities of the two eye cameras combining resolution. By combining multiple low res pictures together its possible to produce a higher res picture, a technique that has been around for a while and yielded great results see here for examples http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... The Ps4 eyes input is twice as fast (for each camera) as the Kinect 2, thus allowing the the eye to take 4x the fps (at 1280x800) as the Kinect does at 1080p. What the resolution increase would be I have no clue but it could potentially be equal to or exceed 1080p, assuming the eye takes advantage of this process.