Sony has revealed that the PS4 won't play on anything that isn't an HDTV, requiring HDMI.
I'm assuming same is true of Xbox One. It's the way of the future. Kind of like going Blu-ray or using the Cloud for online gaming purposes.
Yea Xbox One was confirmed last month as HDMI only too
Really, every single tv made within the last few years has supported HDMI. Sorry luddites, time to upgrade that old piece of crap standard definition tv! You'll never regret it once you do!
Why would you even buy a next gen console if you have an sd tv, whats the point?
got all kinds of crap for being only hdmi and now that ps4 is hdmi only its okay.... Bottom line, you cant keep supporting the old connections forever. there has to be a point where you must let go of the past if you want to move forward.
Every single TV sold since around 2006 has supported HDMI, shouldn't be a problem.
"xbox one got all kinds of crap for being only hdmi and now that ps4 is hdmi only its okay.." How many times do I have to read crap statements like this? Yes, we know some people are hypocrites, get over it. The world is round, we revolve around the sun and some people are hypocrites, welcome to Earth.
@ douevenlift You can get full HD with component cables too.. I use component cables for my 360 because my tv only has 2 HDMI ports and those two are taken by my PS3 and cable box
I have a SONY HX959 LED/LCD ready to plug it up to.
I've played this entire gen not using HD connections for xbox 360. Lost them early on/initially and never bothered to get new and games still look good. I'm in for a nice upgrade this/next gen as I'll finally actually be gaming in HD.
i think i see one more usb on the back.
What about people playing on monitors that don't have (or else they don't want to use) HDMI?
Im pretty sure there are cables you can by that are HDMI to VGA anyways
@TheBlackSmoke: LOL you are absolutely right!
PS4 has optical out while the Xbone doesn't, which is important if you don't pass hdmi through your receiver, or your Tv doesn't have an optical out.
Don't need a TV if you have a computer monitor. Just one of those sound cables floating on the net.
@wenis Fair enough, but I've seen enough debates over what's the best cables/setup to know that a few people will still be disappointed and won't want to use a convertor.
@darth - the only people I saw saying that we're people with older cable boxes complaining that the "live tv" features would be useless for them. And to be fair, that is a valid concern considering that is a major feature of the Xbone. Doesn't matter tome because I wouldn't use that feature even if I bought an Xbone.
2 USB ports only sucks tho. Wish it had at lest 4 :(
Honestly, did you ever really use all 4 on your phat PS3? I know I never did.
it can support a usb hub for more ports.
On the bright side at least they're usb 3.0
@Darth I think PS4 has USB 3.0, so it should be able to charge my phone and be used as a USB hub. :D
@azshorty2003 i used all for ports but only for rock band and well that franchise is pretty much dead
@azshorty2003 Yes I did on my phat. 1-for my Wireless headset jack 2-for my PSeye 3-for my USB amp for when I play with no headset 4-for charging my controllers and transfering stuff from my PS3 to Vita :(
Is there a USB located in the back? I want to hook up my external but do not want a wire in front of the console at all times
I believe in the other thread about the images of the system, there is a USB port on the back. It shows hdmi, lan, optical audio and usb
At least if you want the camera there's a plug on the back.
So buy a $400-500 system to play on SD TV maybe it's time to upgrade
I've got an LCD in my van that doesn't have HDMI. My 720p HD projector doesn't have HDMI. Sometimes I use the SD cables just to hook up audio to an external sound system or headphones. I used composite cables to hook two PS3s up to one TV and play them both with split-screen PiP. Some people may not have a TV with HDMI if they're at a friend's/relatives, at a vacation spot, etc. I do actually get a fair amount of use out of the analog outputs, so I find their absence disappointing.
Well a computer monitor is cheaper than some TVs and they make some cables that convert SD to HDMI and so on. Although upgrades are required at some point.
Can someone explain what this mean for the ps4 and does if effect me from playing ps4 games on a sd tv?
you wont be aqble to unless you had a converter that took the hdmi and converted it down to component or even composite. I think they exist but usually you can find them the other way around. There are more upconverters than there are downconverters.
@darth Do you really think he just understood that? LOL
Yup it does, looks like you better get out of the gaming hobby asap.
trolololo I'm gonna go out on a limb here and bet that people commenting on article on N4(fucking)G.com don't have SDTV's
I thought ps4 has analog out unless ive been mistaken reading the specifications.I have HD tv anyway,just to comment something :) Sorry, when I read the specification I got confused with the optical out.
I have two words for people without an HDTV, "Black Friday".
Also both using USB 3.0
time to upgrade your 1995 tv's people.
Agreed......i think were gonna see alot of big screen HDTV's sell like crazy this X-mas season.
hope for good prices too!!! i play on an Alien-Ware 19" monitor, i love it and all....but its best for game playing only. sucks on movies... -_-
Or spend $5 on an HDMI-to-component adapter.
You mean the cable? You can't convert digital to analog over a cable. The converters that actually work cost about $30+.
Big HDTV's are pretty cheap these days anyway.
The reduced quality and input lag you'd get from doing this is horrendous.
I still have my Trinitron lol
Lol nice ... Too heavy to throw out lol
Ya just got a new yamaha amp.. Running 4- 8" subs, 2 -6" drivers, 6 tweeters and a 10" powered sub ... 5 hdmi in should cover it lol ... Battlefield 4 here I come my gf will probably move out im banned from using heavy artillery lol
Isn't this kind of the same elitism that says "who the hell doesn't have internet to authenticate games?" My living room TV and bedroom TV both have HDMI, but I actually get a lot of use out of the analog outputs on my PS3s for a number of different applications. I use component cables with my HD projector, as just *one* example... guess I've gotta get an HDMI/VGA converter now. Oh well. Day 1 anyway.
Seriously.. if you can afford a HD gaming console .. you can afford an HDtv ...
Good. Makes developers focus on HD now.
True. Developers don't have to worry about the text being too small for certain players. I think Dead Rising was a game that had this issue when it was released.
Yeah Dead Risings text was unreadable in Standard Def
Good, fuck standard def.
Analog outputs support HD via component, you know.
That should be a given. Now will my Pulse headset work on ps4?
That's a great question which I'm also wondering about. Those headsets are great.
I hope so lol. If so I might give away mine to a friend and get the GTA5 ones :PPPP
It looked like the 299 bundle with GTA V came with that headset. Lots of questions still need to answered, but they weren't shy on the big questions.
I just got one for Christmas I use it for everything, playing, listening to music, watching music, they're extremely incredible.
Third Party companies might make adapters
Optical audio port please ? (Edit) whew thanks guys
pictures show one there. http://www.gamespot.com/spe...
they already confirmed that it will have an optical audio port. It is also in the press release specs.
Optical port confirmed in the pics of the system they released.
Just check the specs ;) http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...
can any one conform how many usb's?? i know i see to upfront...but there looks to be a 3rd one on the back?? or could it be for the camera??? EDIT: i love the looks of the ps4, i like how the bring back the blue theme that was on the ps2! :D @ TheGrimReaper...thanks for the link, it dose only have 2 usb ports -_- hope my Bluetooth mouse connects properly.
Optical audio is the higher output standard, removing it would be a step backwards lol.
HD is the modern age!