PS4 Includes 500GB Hard Drive, DualShock 4 Is $60

A tidbit that went unmentioned at Sony’s press conference was the size of the internal hard drive in PS4. That’s now confirmed to be 500GB according to an SCEI press release that just hit the wires.

[Xaphy]

sweet. DS4 isnt expensive at all.

[Nightfallen]

I expected 69.99-79.99. Good stuff. Also very fair hard drive. Hope it is upgradable similar to the PS3.

[Gandalf]

Same. I have a 1tb in my PS3 right now. Hopefully i could just use it for the PS4.

[Hatsune-Miku]

ps4 first day. i cant wait. ps4 destroys the xbox one

[WhittO]

Since you are not FORCED to install EVERY game onto the hardrive, 500gb should be more than enough for me..

PS3 owners have dealt with game installs with bluray for years and will know - even with these bigger games - you prob don't need more than 100gb for your entire gaming library (on average).

But then I will fill it with music and movies haha

[aCasualGamer]

Pretty sure the DS4 will become cheaper as time goes by.

[Rainstorm81]

its an Ok HDD but i hope its upgradeable 500GB will go fast in the Next Gen

My current 320GB HDD is nearly full now

[aCasualGamer]

@Rainstorm81

Don't worry, you don't have to install all your games on the HDD like Xbox One. If you do want to install your games, i'm pretty certain Sony will allow custom HDD, since that's what they did with PS3.

[darthv72]

i swear sony and ms were passing notes in class this year.

The two are so similar in specs and design and almost everything that it makes you wonder if the 3rd parties will press only 1 disc that is playable on both.

That would be one hell of a convenience. Doubtful but still...

@acasual, while we can assume you should be able to upgrade the hdd, they could have changed that policy on the ps4 and made the system accept usb external hdd's. Nothing wrong with adding another hdd instead of replacing. I'd like them to make installs to the hdd as an option.

[Gamehead36]

darth, you really have been doing a lot of damage control my man...

come on now, the specs really are not comparable

[darthv72]

lets compare

both have 8 core custom amd cpu
both have custom amd gpu
both have 500gb hdd
both have new hd camera
both have 8gb of system ram
both will have a bluray drive for games/movies
both will offer enhanced media features and social integrations.

Not being specific here but its crazy how similar these two are in design. I mean the differences are not snes vs genesis or 2600 vs saturn (if you want to get that extreme).

i thought the ps3 and 360 were closely matched but now...someone was selling secrets. Maybe AMD leaked info to both sides since they were the common denominator.

No damage control....why think that in the 1st place? This is just putting 2 and 2 together in a very basic comparison.

[Boody-Bandit]

Pre-ordered 2 PS4's tonight.
I'm set for next gen.

[Biggest]

darthv72 says:

"Not being specific here but its crazy how similar these two are in design."

Why would you be specific? Specificity would destroy your point. Think of it this way. A banana and a school bus are both yellow. Very similar, eh?

The PCUs are different. The GPUs are different. The RAM is different. They may both be yellow, but one of them can run around and through the other.

[darthv72]

i know why you are trying to make that comparative but its the wrong comparative.

Im sure you have heard the phrase apples to oranges. People often use that as a way to say things are different but what they dont realize is that besides the obvious of one is an apple and the other an orange, both are more similar than they are different.

the ps4 and xbox 1 are more similar than they are different. That is the only point i was making. Your comparative of banana to school bus would be more akin to saying the ps4 and original NES. In that respect the differences outweigh the similarities.

[JohnS1313]

"both have 8gb of system ram"

But the PS4 has GDDR5 RAM while the Xbox One has DDR3 RAM. There's a big difference there.

[Godchild1020]

It's 5 dollars more. I can do that.

[dc1]

Yep. This just confirmed (Hope my pockets are ready) Day One: 1PS4, 1 Extra Controller and 2 Games.

Looking forward to this.

[THE-COMMANDER]

I Want a Playstation 4 Now!

[ravens52]

Lol me too

[Reverent]

Sony charging us to play online now hurts me a little... But it's still totally worth it. I am absolutely excited for Second Son!

[showtimefolks]

i hope they let us change the hard drive unlike MS who makes you buy their own brand and from what i understand you can't even changes the hard drive on xbox one

never in 23 years of gaming have i seen one company basically screw itself in 2 conferences

i hope ps4's controller is much better and that's coming from a long time PS fan

[GrilledCheeseBook]

All you got to do is hawk the discount retailers in your city. I bought something like 6 360 controllers for $20 each back when I had a 360. Most were out of their box but they worked perfectly fine and there wasn't any wear on the sticks. Looked like they were just taken out of the box.

[ZodTheRipper]

Hopefully there will be also a 1TB version at launch ...just to avoid the problems I have with my 320GB PS3 right now lol

[Kamikaze135]

I bought a 320GB HDD for my PS3 thinking I'd be set for life.....boy was I wrong, lol. More is definitely better.

[sashimi]

Lol I thought a 500GB HD was safe too til i got a message saying i can't download or install anymore

[SonyPS4]

Yeah I have a model 2501B Slim and the thing is nearly filled up with just game installs and PS Plus content. No music, no videos, no photos...all games.

[doi]

well, i have only 80G with my PS3 and i'm a PS+ member but I don't really have any problems with the HD space unless you don't wanna re-install games of course. I just delete the games I don't wanna play or done playing and i can always install them whenever i want or re-download the free games i received with PS+.

500G would probably more than enough for me in the PS4.

[IcicleTrepan]

I'm hoping the PS4 hard drive will be user upgradeable like the PS3 one is. I don't think there's been any word on this yet.

[Kamikaze135]

I wonder if the 500GB will be included with the $400 model, or if it will be on a more expensive model. I hope so.

[gamer42]

Did they say there was 2 versions?

[b777conehead]

theres only one version

[sjaakiejj]

there's only one model for as far as we know, so that's the model with the 500 GB Hard Drive. I hope (and expect) it is replaceable.

[jaredhart]

Hopefully you can purchase and upgrade the memory as easy as you can for the PS3.

[phantomexe]

Nice thats great to hear. They really surprised me tonight. A friend of mine who was watching it with me is really into xbox and he walked away saying MS lost my money. He said wiiu,ps4. He is going miss halo tho alot.

[Ace_Pheonix]

Not with Destiny being the fullest experience on PS4.

[Godmars290]

Still don't know if its switchable like the PS3's.

[isarai]

yeah i would really like to know if you can still so that, not sure why they would get rid of it, but i just want to hear it officially

[SonyPS4]

Chances are likely. Sony isn't MS.

[animegamingnerd]

why do controllers get more and more expensive every gen?

[torchic]

DS4 is probably more expensive to manufacture, just take a look at the touchpad.

[Godmars290]

Mic, headphone jack, and the light on the front?

[teedogg80]

Exactly. You gotta look at all the bells and whistles the thing has.

[Godmars290]

Not that it needs all said bells and whistles.

[IG-88]

don't forget the touchpad

[mydyingparadiselost]

Because more and more is getting put into controllers every gen.

[princejb134]

Inflation maybe?

[Mr_Nuts]

Fantastic news, wonder how much the camera is

Speaking of the camera, QUICK QUESTION, if someone wouldn't mind answering it please. Did they mention if you have to buy it with the camera or need the camera for the controller to work?

[solidjun5]

from Amazon, the camera is 69.99.

You don't need the camera in order for it to work. It's a separate optional component. Hope this helps.

[Mr_Nuts]

Thank You (and everyone below)...and now Sony has double won in my opinion

[Jeff257]

That is not a bad price for the camera either. Kind of cool it is optional as well. I expect we will see games that will use it though with the controller and maybe with the Move controlelrs as well.

[Canas2010]

The press release says $59 usd for both the camera and the DS4 though.

"PS4 peripherals include the stand-alone Wireless Controller for PlayStation®4
(DUALSHOCK®4) and PlayStation®Camera, which will be available at launch for RRP of
US$ 59, Canada$ 59, € 59 and £ 54, and US$ 59, Canada$ 59, € 49 and £ 44 respectively.
Both accessories will come in “Jet Black” color."

http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...

[NameRemoved0017]

Camera is not required.

[SpinalRemains]

No you don't need the camera.

I just ordered on Amazon and the unit does not include the camera, so the controller will work sans eyetoy 2 or whatever it's called.

[Typical-Guy]

500GB and you don't need to install, EPIC WIN!

[strigoi814]

Owned

[PANTHER1030]

Amazing, I had to wait almost 3 years to buy a PS3 and now I could buy it in the first day, Thanks Sony.

[ExPresident]

500GB is great but I'm hoping to see a 1TB package.... pls :)

[SpitFireAce85]

Got mine pre ordered from amazon.com cant wait to get my hands on that beauty and 4-5 games at launch...

[airgangstarr]

i think its actually uglier then the xbox1 but who cares pre ordered ftw ms can kiss this ass goodbye

[Virtual_Reality]

Hopefully a HDD that can be replaceable.

[My_Outer_Heaven]

Not sure this is true... I would rather here it come from Sony themselves! E3 again tomorrow perhaps more questions and more pictures of the console itself will be released.

[My_Outer_Heaven]

Storage size 500GB Hard disk drive*1

*1 The hard disk drive contains space that is available for users and space that is reserved for the system,
therefore the actual space that is free for users is smaller than the total space stated in this document.

* Design and specifications are subject to change without notice.

500GB but subject to change!

[spektical]

so any news on what comes in the box?

system, controller and camera?

[shadow2797]

"PlayStation®4 system × 1
Wireless Controller (DUALSHOCK®4) × 1
Mono headset × 1
AC power cord × 1
HDMI cable × 1
USB cable × 1"

No camera. Headset and HDMI cables this time, though!

[ziggurcat]

the big question is:

is the HDD user-replaceable?

[reko]

question: when is it comin out? or no official date yet?

[Toman85]

Just Q4 2013, so we must have more patience for the release date for Playstation 4
399$ folks!

[reko]

that'll be hard man :(

[Skynetone]

I suspect the release date has more got to do with the numbers they can produce, the less units available the closer to Christmas they will release, the more units they have the earlier they will release

the fact that ms are releasing in November, tells me they wont have massive stock at launch

[reko]

i want it before christmas.

[gano]

Its done.

[-Gespenst-]

Wait, we don't have to buy the controller separately do we? That'd almost make the console as expensive as the X1.

[Jeff257]

It comes with one controller standard. If you want more controllers they will be $59 US each.

[Ggame]

Let's try to find its press release bro.
In a set includes
- PS4 system
- Wireless controller
- HDMI cable
- Mono head set
- USB cable
- AC power

http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...

[King-Prodigy-X]

But with xbox done you have to install on its 500GB HDD.

[nigelp520]

Does anyone know can we upgrade the harddrives like the ps3? Because all these MMOs coming out and PS plus i want a 1TB

[InTheZoneAC]

1TB HDD seems like the perfect size for a ps3 owned since launch day, with all the freebies/discounts of PS+. I've tried to convert most of my physical collection to digital through various sales.

PS4 I'll be going digital only unless the game is an annual release such as Madden, games that I'm sure to never play again once the newer version is out.

So 1TB might only last me half way through it's life considering games will be much larger in size. 500GB would be like 120gb on the ps3, it simply won't last unless you go physical copies only.

[Canas2010]

I agree. If plus is going to be giving out larger games then 500gb will fill up pretty fast. I Hope we can swap that out just like PS3. If so I'm going for a 2TB.

[ufo8mycat]

Not sure if Sony answered this but will I be able to install the game to the PS4s hard drive and not needing the disc? This is something that the ONE is going to do, so just wondering.

[shadow2797]

No. It will work like it does now. No DRM, no online, but the disc is needed.

However, contrary to what people are saying, I'm pretty sure all PS4 titles install to the HDD. Mark Cerny specifically mentioned this when he talked about PlayGo. So the 500 GB is going to go fast.

[Hadoukameha]

Sony said it would be a huge HDD! PS3 has the same damn size, where's our TB?!

[SaffronCurse]

500 is a good start.

[iPlay100]

Great Job Sony! - I must say very well played. PS4 definitely provides gamers a lot of flexibility. For the hardware of this magnitude, the price is very reasonable. However, Next-Gen Console war has just begun.

XBO is also unique in its own way, but making Kinect a mandatory buy isn't so great. This raised the price for XBO console, giving Sony the upper hand.

May the best console win!

-Gamer

[Sayai jin]

Agreed.

[Sayai jin]

So what kind of controller comes with the console?

[kingPoS]

Wouldn't be great if the dual shock 4 worked on PS3's as well.

[zaz12]

Pachter f**king made it! He's finally right

[IG-88]

I like the:
"Furthermore, from SCE Worldwide Studios,
more than 30 titles, including 12 brand
new IP, are under development, including
Killzone: Shadow Fall, Knack, inFAMOUS:SecondSon, DRIVECLUB
and The Order: 1886. Out of over the 30 titles under development, 20 titles will be available within a year from the PS4 launch"

give me more Games!!!