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Submitted by Pandemic 461d ago | rumor

PlayStation Plus required for multiplayer on PS4 games

That is the only caveat we’ve heard so far. Stay tuned for full quote. Upon launch of the PS4, PS Plus members will get access to Drive Club, free. So while you will have to have a Plus membership for multiplayer – you will still be getting free games. (PS4)

Update Admin Note: It is truly official

http://n4g.com/news/1278035...

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GentlemenRUs  +   461d ago
False, It's required for features linked to Online... Not online play...

Streaming
ect...

So no, Online Play will still be free.

EDIT: Yes, I have PS+ anyway.
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JhawkFootball06  +   461d ago
Only less than $5 a month though. Honestly that's what 2 energy drinks at a gas station, or a trip to a McDonalds. People should not be complaining.
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NeverEnding1989  +   461d ago
Confirmed that PS Plus is required for online gaming on the PS4.

I'm assuming every N4G user to swear that they would never pay for online gaming is now jumping to the Wii? Post your friends codes!
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whoyouwit04  +   461d ago
Ans thats the same price xbox live has been for years but now no one should bitch because it's Sony.
HammadTheBeast  +   461d ago
I'm actually not cool with this.

However, how do you like getting owned Never ending?

"PS4 WILL HAVE ALL THIS BS RESTRICTIONS TOOOO"
DeanSanchez  +   461d ago
wut
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LOL_WUT   461d ago | Off topic | show
mrmarx  +   461d ago
but on a serious note plus is worth it. once you get it you will be happy.. it saved me twice when my ps3 yellow lighted and all my game saves were in the cloud. also the free games are good. so man games i cant fit them on my 640gb hdd
dedicatedtogamers  +   461d ago
I'm pretty sure they meant for online multiplayer, as in, if you want to play online games, ya gotta have PS+. I already have it, so it doesn't affect me *wink wink*
duli14  +   461d ago
Something had to give guys, we can sell our games and no online connection required! and also we get driveclub on ps plus!
WhittO  +   461d ago
^^ actually i wont bitch because you actually get TONES of stuff with PS PLUS, and not JUST the ability to play online like LIVE.

You literally get loads of free games, themes, avatars etc.

Worth it
hulk_bash1987  +   461d ago
It was a huge plus for Sony to not charge for online play this console generation. And a huge point people hated on Microsoft for so yeah I'd say that this warrants a "this sucks"
Muffins1223  +   461d ago
Hehehe....sony people always bragged about free online and now its like..."meh...its okay to pay online" lollolololololol

But im still going with sony next gen
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sunnygrg  +   461d ago
It is required, not that I care. Been a Plus subscriber since Day 1.

http://i.imgur.com/wGVY2Tx....
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gunnerforlife  +   461d ago
@Muffins1223
Ha now we can brag about buying preowned games and being able to play offline for 26 hours non stop,and taking my brothers games at any time ;) but yes im sort of pissed of about ps+ still but will see.
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   461d ago
Deff sucks to pay for multiplayer but in the end, it's still miles ahead of what XBL tries to justify it's price for.

Been PS+ member since day 1 and i don't think i'll never not be so it's not all that bad lol
SilentNegotiator  +   461d ago
Someone tell me I'm just having a nightmare. Because I am not paying for online play.
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-Alpha  +   461d ago
It's smarter to have Plus than NOT have Plus. Assuming Sony continues with the Instant Game Collection quality, I will gladly pay for Plus.

When 360 debuted with XBL, it was worth the $$. No one else was offering something of equal value (on consoles at least). Personally, I complain about XBL today because of the lack of value.

It really does suck that you absolutely need Plus to play online (Tretton snuck this in and we need some more clarification), but as far as value goes, I have no issue downing $50. I don't go in thinking "I need this to play online", I continue going in thinking "I am getting free games out of this"

I'm concerned if this will affect the quality of Plus games, if everyone has access to the service. I also hope I can share my Plus to everyone on my system, I don't want to pay twice for my sibling.
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Dee_91  +   461d ago
I heard someone say this and I hoped it wasnt true.
This definitely sucks.I mean I have ps+ for about 2 months now but I wasnt planning on renewing it because of ps4 coming soon but yea.. not happy about this.
The rest However, they killed it, killed all the DRM murmur, so it softens the blow by alot imo.
Godchild1020  +   461d ago
I previously stated that I would never pay for a service that restricted me from playing my games online, but then I started playing for Xbox live for my Nephews 360.

I would play for PlayStation plus no matter what, because I get almost 15 games for free, plus the many discounts on games on the PlayStation store. I have a subscription that doesn't end until 2017, plus the extra 3 months that I will get when I pick up The Last of Us.

Also, someone mentioned that something had to give. There is no used restrictions and I can sell my games with no restrictions, I'm sold!
Divine  +   461d ago
listen guys the system is 400 dollars! i would pay to play anytime for that and its like lunch money! even though we wont have to pay to play online. its only to give us a better online experience
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Outside_ofthe_Box  +   461d ago
I'm pissed...
WOW this kills everything. Now games that I was looking forward to like The Division I can no longer look forward to playing. I will never pay to play online. I will not pay to play the other half of a game that I ALREADY paid full price for.

We should have another campaign to get rid of this crap. Sony said they are all for the consumer. Now they must prove it by getting rid of this.
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Rainstorm81  +   461d ago
Heres a plan buy a year of PS plus now and tomorrow it will have paid for itself long before PS4 hits....and then you get Drive Club

PS Plus has far more valur than XBL ever did, thats why its not as painful that its needed for PS4 MP
Oh_Yeah  +   461d ago
It's worthy of payment because it comes with GAMES.
Dir_en_grey  +   461d ago
Friggin admins on this site, they failed any rumors against Microsoft

Yet they brought this from failed back to approved

Yeah right they are not biased
MikeMyers  +   461d ago
Only single player games and other media services like movies will not require a membership. Online multiplayer is now behind a paywall.

Now watch as the hardened fanboys of yesterday who complained about paying to play online will all of the sudden justify it because the Xbox One has DRM for physical discs.

The flip-flopping will happen, guaranteed. I already have Plus so I'm ready to go.
SonyPS4  +   461d ago
I have Plus and love the service, thus I will plan on using it on PS4. Still I know a dick move when I see one.
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DigitalRaptor  +   461d ago
@ MikeMyers

Most of us are NOT okay with this. I'm not okay with having to pay to play basic online, regardless of the fact I will continue to pay for PS+. It's sh*t and still confusing, cause it hasn't actually been confirmed yet, or has it? It still smells like rumour to me.

BUT at least Sony aren't disgustingly anti-consumer like Microsoft in pretty much every respect. At least they aren't trying to take control of the ownership of your games, at least they aren't requiring you to connect every day to verify your games. At least they aren't forcing you to connect a camera to play your games - which by the way has ensured you're paying more for the console, as it's a requirement.

MS are disgusting and Sony has hands-down won this generation for gamers and consumers on these points alone. On focus, on price, on peace of mind as consumers. I'm so happy there's a company out there that treats consumers with respect, and not as criminals or fools.

Believe me I will rally strongly against, forced online, unlike you mugs who will bow to whatever MS wants to take away from you.
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steven83r  +   461d ago
Unless they say You cannot play online without PS+ then its rumor. What i head when he said it was if you want to get the full experience you will need + but he did not say you can't play unless you have +
darthv72  +   461d ago
it was only a matter of time
sony knew people would pay. If people paid to be part of PS+ then switching the multiplayer over to the same level of service makes more financial sense. People are already paying, they have to find a way to get new people to sign up.

I got ps+ and live gold. Im ready for both next gen platforms.
JackBNimble  +   461d ago
You get PS plus for PS Vita PS3 and PS4 all in one. One price for games on all 3 systems. I already have ps plus and all the games that have come out on it since day one.

Driveclub alone is worth a one year subscription of plus...
darkride66  +   461d ago
I'm of two minds about this. Plus as a subcription model is fantastic and well worth the price. I've been extremely happy as a Plus subscriber and had no intention of cancelling anytime soon.

Online play is a different beast. I don't agree for a second that we should be charged extra to play 100% of our titles. I didn't agree whem MS does it and I don't agree with Sony doing it. I think it's something that should be expected with our consoles and its a cash grab. If they wanted to charge for extras, I'm fine with that but basic multiplayer should be free.

At the end of the day it won't impact me. That doesn't make it cool though.
abzdine  +   461d ago
who doesn't have PS+ anyway? you wanna buy Drive Club? buy a PS+ cheaper then Drive club price and you have it at the same time.
specialguest  +   461d ago
terrible
i dont care how anyone tries to justify or spin this, this pay to use your own internet to play online is b/s! every negative thing people have said about paying for LIVE just to play the other half of the game you dont have access to unless you pay up can be applied to the PS4s online multiplayer paid service. i dont give a damn what you get extra with PS+ just like how I dont give a damn about LIVE's extra perks.
kreate  +   461d ago
If i gotta pay... i might downgrade to the wii....

But xbox live clearly showed the corporations that charging for online play is ok.
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EcliPS3  +   461d ago
You are incorrect sir. Multiplayer gaming will require a PS Plus Membership.

Disagrees? I am only stating facts. From Jack Trettons mouth no less.
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xPhearR3dx  +   461d ago
I still find it funny all the Sony fanboys are like "Oh it's okay I have PS+ anyway, paying for online is no big deal". Yet, MS does it, and it's the end of the world. Goes to show you how pathetic fanboys are.

Either way, Sony's conference was a win. It lacked on the game side of things compared to MS, but the information and price revealed took the cake. I've always had XBL Gold, so paying for online doesn't bother me.

I shall be pre-ordering a PS4 shortly and I'll have my PC for Xbone "Exclusives". Sorry MS. You already lost.
joeorc  +   461d ago
if you notice
Single player online play is still free, so no not all online play is charged to be played online.
darthv72  +   461d ago
@joeorc
umm...whats an example of single player online game? Usually if its single player, it isnt "online". If its online then it isnt single player.

unless we are strictly talking leader boards? That really isnt online in the sense that 90% of the gamers believe online means.
DigitalRaptor  +   461d ago
Don't lump us together please. Although it's true that I will still be paying for PS+, I'm totally not okay to not being given the option to connect to basic online gameplay, and this is all MS and their fans' fault.

All the anti-consumer features you see on Xbox One - you can't only blame MS. The people who paid for things that should be free are the ones who truly set the wheels in motion for extra restrictions.

As it stands it's just a rumour, but I will be strongly against having my options removed. I'm kinda really conflicted by this.
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   461d ago
Actually Dragon's Dogma is completelly single player yet is has online connectivity way beyong leaderboards. I'm sure there are other examples.

Anyway, I believe he's talking about Xbox One online check-ups, meaning you have to pay even to play single player (not saying he's right at all, as it seens gold membership will still be optional, this is just what I believe he meant).
JhawkFootball06  +   461d ago
How's the title misleading?
Pandemic  +   461d ago
Sounds reasonable, for $5 per month, in return you'll probably be getting a game worth $20 or more for free for being apart of Playstation Plus, for example Drive Club, which I'm guessing will cost a fair bit once it's released.
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JsonHenry  +   461d ago
No, it IS required for multiplayer. He said so (by omission) and so did the slide on the screen stating it was required.
showtimefolks  +   461d ago
Also by paying that $49.99 you get a brand new IP/game drive club for free so basically you are getting a service for free

$399 console
KZ,Drive club,knack at launch
No DRM
Can play used games
No need to connect to net

So I am giving Sony a free pass on paying to play but with them giving me drive club which I was buying for $60, so basically I save $10 m the game plus get PSN-plus
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IcicleTrepan  +   461d ago
Those games are 'free' the same way netflix gives you 'free' movies. you stop paying and they go away. Either way I could care less, I'll probably still buy it.
showtimefolks  +   461d ago
IcicleTrepan

well thing is if you have a ps4 you will be keeping it for 5-8 years meaning you will keep up your psn-plus account for that long so game doesn't go away.

people don't have issue with MS charging but now all of the sudden paying for psn is a bad thing

also unlike MS sony is giving us a brand new IP as a free game unlike halo 3 and Ac2 games from a while back

what about all the other things they did right like not charging $100 extra and not having DRM or blocking used games

maybe this is why some 3rd party publishers are making exclusive games for xbox one since sony must have said no to blocking used games and drm
JackBNimble  +   461d ago
$50 a year for instant game collection... why would you stop paying? Or would it be better to pay full retail price for the same games. You still would come out on top with plus no matter how you look at it.
badkolo  +   461d ago
no its not, ps4 will have psn + which you will pay for to play online mulitplater, dont spin it
Outsider-G  +   461d ago
Looks like it's confirmed
http://i.imgur.com/pJzDBYZ....
--Onilink--  +   461d ago
Plus is definitely worth it, but still a major blow to multiconsole owners, as now I know i would have to forcefully pay 2 subscriptions a year
Donnieboi  +   461d ago
Not for me. I have PS3, Vita, and getting ps4. So that's free games for all 3 systems every month.
Gothdom  +   461d ago
Do what you want, I'm not paying to play online.
King-u-mad  +   461d ago
You go ahead lmao. I'll be getting more than what its worth with plus :P
Man-E-Faces  +   461d ago
It's wrong of Microsoft to charge for online multiplayer and if this is true then it's wrong of Sony too. I don't like someone blocking my already paid internet service just so they can exploit their customers and fill their pockets more, especially when the servers are still shitty peer to peer. I guess all my multiplayer needs will be done on PC and WiiU.
Man-E-Faces  +   461d ago
So can we still use the share feature without PS+? Can we finally change our PSN ID without creating a new account? Lot's of little details are missing and need clarification!
Divine  +   461d ago
correction to my comment before. we do have to pay to play but. im not upset only because sony is way better in the way they went about it. i still dont like the idea. of it but hey now both consoles have it and the better choice is still ps4
cgoodno  +   461d ago
The problem I have is I would do PS+ anyway for the extra features and games, but I don't want to support the idea of paying for online access to games.
Man-E-Faces  +   461d ago
This is exactly my feelings as well it's just not right when PC, WiiU and possibly still PS3, Vita are free, unless Sony blocks those 2 platforms too.
Aceman18  +   461d ago
look i've been on PS+ since the beginning and its a great service.

honestly it sucks balls that we now have to pay to play online, but i feel that this was the concession to not having the system with all that drm, always checking in garbage.

its like someone here said something had to bring so i ask you all here what would you rather have

1
free online play with the drm restrictions
always checking in
no used games
no reselling of used games
possible fee on used games
paying to play online

2
no drm restrictions
never having to checking online to make sure your games play
being able to have offline play
no used games fees
still able to use media apps for free
for the first time in 7-8 now having to pay to play online

so choose each one which one of the models sounds like the best option for gamers.
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Brewski007  +   461d ago
But we're getting so much back. I think i can live with this ! :) PS plus has been good to me so far :)
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Virtual_Reality  +   461d ago
The thing is with PS Plus is a service that gives you instant games collection for all sizes.

Look at the history of PS Plus right now.
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Ipunchbabiesforfun  +   461d ago
Lame :( $60 a year.
2pacalypsenow  +   461d ago
its $49.99
Ipunchbabiesforfun  +   461d ago
is it? I took the less than $5 and times it by 12 for an average. Not too bad, but I surely enjoyed free
CGI-Quality  +   461d ago
Where are you people seeing this?
turnerdc  +   461d ago
Did I hear that right? Jack was saying PS+ is required for "immersive multiplayer experiences" but people who didn't have it could enjoy single player? Regardless, good on them for no DRM!
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azshorty2003  +   461d ago
"For less then $5 a month, members will get Discounted games, Cloud Saves, Automatic Game updates, Early Access to Beta Programs, Instant Game Collection, & as well as the ability to FULLY Immerse themselves in the incredible PS4 games with online multiplayer. PS4 gamers that aren't PS+ Members will be able to enjoy SINGLE player games for Free, and access to all your media services won't require PS+."

That was directly from Jacks mouth from the show. Sounds like Multiplayer isn't free anymore.

EDIT*
Official video from Sony states that PSN+ is now required for multiplayer.
http://n4g.com/news/1277886...
Read fine print at the bottom.
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TheDivine  +   461d ago
This is BS but we all knew it was coming especially with the cloud gaming and focus on social media/features. This is also why they couldn't do drm and block used games because they were already adding a bullshit pay to use your own Internet. If they did that on top of this fans would riot. Now they look like a savior while screwing us ps fans up the arse.

That said at least you can use Netflix, play sp, and all the main stuff I do with my ps3 right now. I've always hated how ms blocks out Netflix, Hulu exc. Stuff you already pay to use. I can see not having plus and enjoying my games and subs I already have. I also already have ps plus and think its fantastic and a must have. What I hate is forcing me to buy it by tying in mp. Otherwise its amazing.
CaptainSheep  +   461d ago
Doesn't matter. I'll renew my subscription anyway. :P
vlonjati77vlonjati  +   461d ago
i renewed it 2 days ago.I was gonna buy Drive club,when they annonced that is part of the ps plus I was really surprised.Go Sony Go http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i...
gta_manic  +   461d ago
surprised as hell but...
Is this the trade off for not having restriction for used games and internet checks? I don't know how to feel about this
Rusty515  +   461d ago
Well xbox live has used games restrictions, Internet checks, AND you have to pay for online. If paying Sony money for online means no drm or blocking used games, then I'll gladly support this. And with a cheap price such as $399, I honestly don't mind. They have to make money somehow.
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--Onilink--  +   461d ago
its basically the trade off for what PS+ has been doing for a while now and the acquisition of Gaikai
Kingthrash360  +   461d ago
id rather have ps+ than xbl anyday....but I feel bad for thos who cant afford tge extra 5 a month
turgore  +   461d ago
When it was microsoft charging for live people were whining like female dogs. ANd now suddenly its ok for sony ?
Man. I guess i'm moving to PC gaming. Free online and dirt cheap games on steam.
isarai  +   461d ago
kind of a different situation though, for one you can still access media features without plus, second, you get free games(not old ones like wat MS is offering right now) like crazy and tons of discounts and other free content not to mention early/exclusive betas. Even so it hurt to hear that, though it isn't confirmed as it was said very vaguely. even is MP is behind the plus subscription i'd still easily get it over XB1 without hesitation
Cupid_Viper_3  +   461d ago
@ Tugore

Oh you idiot! I'm not happy about PS Plus needed to access the online portion of my game either.

Live, you pay to simply access multiplayer portion of your game, Or to access Netflix that you've already paid for. Even to access the WebBrowser.

PS Plus, New games every month, not needed for netflix or web browser. Gaikai, game sharing, discounts, and countless other bonuses. Plus we're getting a brang new system for $399.00, Sony is trying to clim out of a hole financially, how do you think they're going to give away all of this and not at least make some of it back.

Online on my PS3 is free, online on My Vita is free, I can still sell, lend, or borrow games from my fellow ps4 friends, no need for internet connection and countless other things.

Something had to give unfortunately. You paid for nothing with Live. I'm still sitting on a free copy of Sleeping Dog, Bioshock 2, inFamous 2, and countless other games I have yet to play. ALL of them from PS Plus.....

Don't be dumb.
Kingthrash360  +   461d ago
no I never said its ok....but both systems now have it and if I had to choose it will be ps+ and its free game collection...dam I mean theres also the no drm and the 100$ less that sways me too...face it ps4 has more to offer ME.....if you like payin 100$ more for cable intergration and ms telling you you cant lend or trade in and you like drm and you like paying for xbl and getting nothing in return...well you get ac2 and halo 3 (something that if you are a xbox owner you beat a long time ago) then by all means ENJOY YOU XBONE. I can care less ill be here with my ps4 playing a game I borrowed from a friend...thanks
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TheDivine  +   461d ago
Xbox One has paid mp and online checks.

Ps3 has paid online.

Steam has online checks and you can't play without Internet.

Don't see how steam is awesome while the ps3 is bull. Yes paid mp sucks ass but I'd rather have that than not being able to play offline like BOTH the others. I mostly play sp and watch Netflix which are free and offline. When your net cuts out or you move or go to a friends without net your steam account is worthless. That's bullshit IMO. Paid mp is also but its better than making your game collection a worthless brick.

Oh and has everyone forgotten WiiU has free online, no online checks, and great games? The last bastion of gaming without raping the customers/fans. They should get a damn parade for having ethics and not taking advantage. They could've easily subbed miiverse and online mp but they didnt. I have to commend Nintendo.
Lovable  +   461d ago
Yeah sucks...I hope someone can make this clear. Though being able to play used games is already a given that I will buy PS4.
riverstars86  +   461d ago
Oh well, can't say I'm surprised..... Called this in early February.
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LOL_WUT  +   461d ago
Bummer I hope it's false ;
EcliPS3  +   461d ago
How can it be false? Jack Tretton just announced it himself. You will have to play to play online multiplayer.
NYC_Gamer  +   461d ago
Its because free PSN was killing Sony pockets
iamgoatman  +   461d ago
Plus you can't really expect a company who's purpose is to make money stand idly by, watching the competition rake in the cash from paid multiplayer even when you offer a free alternative, doesn't make a lot of sense when the potential is there for you to do the same.

Still sucks though.
MontyQ  +   461d ago
wow 5 bux a month I make $30 an hour ohhh my pooooor wallet
testerg35  +   461d ago
LOL.. it seemed like A LOT of money to PS3 fans when MS was charging about $3/month (could get Gold for $30+).
givemeshelter  +   461d ago
Oh boy.... I am loving the NO DRM policy for Sony! Sweet...Sony you rock!
But now paying for online... How many people on this site said they would NEVER pay for online? Oh boy...Damage control....
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SexyGamerDude  +   461d ago
I have no problem with it. I own a 360 and I already pay to play online. I'm moving to PS4 next gen though. Sony doesn't want to bombard me with restrictions.
TheBlackSmoke  +   461d ago
BUt thats was the point, xbl gold ONLY offered the ability to play online and features which are free everywhere else.

PLus is online play plus a shit tonne of content, you get back what you pay in within the first month. This effects no one who already has plus.
gunnerforlife  +   461d ago
i'm pissed of about it, but theres nothing i can do about it either, guess down the road ill have to pay for online, maybe if i have cash lying around, ill pick up the ps4 and upgrade, but for now, no thanks.
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Akira2020  +   461d ago
I'd rather pay for PS+ to have ABSOLUTELY NO RESTRICTIONS on my gaming experience. It's a VERY small price to play for our rights as game owners.

GO SONY!!!
TheDivine  +   461d ago
Or buy a WiiU and have no restrictions and free online?

Sad to see the damage control from both sides. Ms is raping you by adding drm but Sony is raping you by making you pay to access your Internet, something Sony fans said they'd never do. Now just because they're not adding drm its apparently ok to butt**** their fans.

I can't believe so many people think their only options are paid online with drm from ms, paid online from Sony, or no offline play from steam. Nintendo does none of that bullcrap but you guys would rather justify why it's okay for Sony to be ms just because ms is now a worse ms.
akaFullMetal  +   461d ago
If this is really true, then that kinda sucks. But psplus is really good though, so it's a little hard to say it's not worth it though.
EasilyTheBest  +   461d ago
Its Now become OK to pay for Online...
PraxxtorCruel  +   461d ago
Best comment of E3.
givemeshelter  +   461d ago
You will now witness MASSIVE damage control and hypocrisy on this site now.
How many bashed MS for paying to play online?
Xbox Fanboys would say:
"It's only the cost of 1 or 2 coffees a mothn..."
Now look at the posts above..They are saying almost the same exact thing about This for Sony LOL
You have to love hypocrisy
Gravitic  +   461d ago
You do know that the 'Online' you talk about is supported by EXPENSIVE servers that need to be maintained.
NegativeCreep427  +   461d ago
It certainly isn't "alright"...
and I get where you're going with this - oh if Sony does it, it's perfectly fine, but when MS does it it's evil empire stuff - but if true it is still a bit more acceptable.

Mainly because Sony is not infringing on our rights to keep, lend, and sell our property and is not requiring us to check up with them every 24 hours. Yet Jack T. was still a bit ambiguous with that particular topic of online gaming, so I wouldn't state it as fact just yet.
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Virtual_Reality  +   461d ago
Look at the difference that gives you PS Plus and a Xbox Live Gold account.
ILive  +   461d ago
I dont want to pay for multiplayer. I could care less about ps +. I guess I should start looking for a person that can help me build my pc. This was one of the biggest things sony had going for them this gen. Its a big no for me.
ginsunuva  +   461d ago
No it's okay to pay for an awesome PS+ service which everyone should have anyway.
abc1233  +   461d ago
It sucks I'll be honest, but I was planning on getting PS+ anyway for the PS3/Vita/PS4 instant game collection, so not too bad.
daedra  +   461d ago
HAHAHAHAHAH IRONY
coolmast3r  +   461d ago
This Sony conference is a mess. Freezes of PS4, lack of cool exclusives, all the same games as in feb, pay for multiplayer...I can't believe this.
SpiralTear  +   461d ago
Many of the exclusives shown look amazing, and guess what? They are creative and original ideas. Can't say the same for Microsoft.

Try harder to troll next time.
abc1233  +   461d ago
No used game restrictions, no stupid periodic authentication, FFXV, KH3, The Order, loads of indies. What are you talking about?
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iamgoatman  +   461d ago
It's pretty sad that Sony won due to price and clarifying on used games. The actual game announcements were pretty bad, I thought MS did much better in that regard, but of course all the DRM nonsense soured it. Heres hoping they do a big U-turn, otherwise they're just beyond stupid.

Some great games shown, but now everything is out in the open, I'm sticking with PC only for a while, until a significant price drop most likely.
BelieveinGhosts  +   461d ago
I agree Microsoft has much better exclusives. I wasnt impressed by any PS4 game apart from Final fantasy and where the fuck was Last Guardian?
TheDivine  +   461d ago
Honestly ms killed it. They had a far better show and far better games shown. The only saving grace is how Sony didnt go as far as ms with the drm bull and its cheaper. If the Xbox had offline play I'd buy it but as is i cant support steam-like drm on consoles.

Now that I also have to pay for online on ps4 il buy a WiiU now and a ps4 down the road for offline games exclusively. I've never paid for xbl and il quit ps plus when I get a ps4 on principal. Both consoles looked amazing but I won't support his crap. Ps4 offline WiiU for online. No Xbox ever.
mt  +   461d ago
i missed that i thought it was just like ps3 ??
cpayne93  +   461d ago
He kind of glazed over it really quickly.
IaMs12  +   461d ago
Funny how everyone is saying only 5 bucks a month now when XBL has been in the past cheaper then that and most recent years now 5 bucks a month. It sucks though, i dont like it either.
abc1233  +   461d ago
PS+ is on a different level to XBL in terms of value
cpayne93  +   461d ago
It doesn't matter a whole lot to me as long as they keep those free games coming, but it's too bad they went this route. But hey, at least ps4 will support used games, the fact that it isn't anti consumer like the xbone means it has my purchase.
sashimi  +   461d ago
I don't recall them saying PSN plus is require for MP....
Trunkz Jr  +   461d ago
Re-watch it my friend, PC Gaming is now looking better with cheap games from Steam + No Multiplayer Fee.
iamgoatman  +   461d ago
Yep, this E3 has just basically clarified PC gaming is the way to go.

Still want Forza 5 like crazy though :(
sashimi  +   461d ago
Yeah i just saw it on the official PS used game video on youtube.

But i'm paying for PSN plus right now anyway for my PS3/PsVita and than PS4 so it wil cover over 3 platforms, so there isn't really any differences to me.

but idk how i feel about paid MP, mixed feelings. I don't like it but i can understand why they did it after seeing M$ charge for online MP and getting paid in the process while they have a equal service for free.
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towelie1288  +   461d ago
wow really well u could see that coming no more free to play onlinr gaming
Bolts  +   461d ago
I wouldn't mind the $5 but I fear that it will divide the community. We need more people playing online not less.
Ozmoses  +   461d ago
HE DID NOT SAY THAT!!!!

He said people that want to experience the optimal experience will have PS+

HE NEVER SAID YOU HAD TO HAVE PS+ FOR ONLINE PLAY!!!

you guys might wanna re-watch the reveal and not fill his mouth with words
gnothe1  +   461d ago
well here you go...... http://i.imgur.com/wGVY2Tx....
Ozmoses  +   461d ago
PlayStation®Plus

Designed to bring games and gamers together, and to fuel the next generation of gaming, PlayStation®Plus helps you discover a world of extraordinary gaming experiences. PlayStation®Plus is a membership service that takes your gaming experience to the next level. Each month members receive access to an Instant Game Collection of top rated blockbuster and innovative Indie games, which they can download direct to their console.

PlayStation®Plus gives you exclusive access to a diverse range of immersive online multiplayer experiences to suit all players' tastes, from Killzone™ Shadow Fall to DRIVECLUB™, Watch_Dogs™ and Destiny™. Play and chat with your friends and a community of like-minded gamers from all over the world who love the same games as you do. One payment gives you access to PlayStation®Plus on your PlayStation®4, PlayStation®3 and PlayStation®Vita systems.

Current PlayStation®Plus members can carry their membership over to their PS4™ system, and continue to use it with their PS3™ and PS Vita systems, at no additional cost.

from gamestop.com description of PS+ on PS4 Home Page... not a confirmation or anything.. but, I think this is more of a rumor more than anything. even with the image you showed.. I saw the video also.
Bhuahahaha  +   461d ago
no big deal
all thats matter is the disk i pay is mine all mine. i can do what ever i want with it play wherever ,whenever i want it
XabiDaChosenOne  +   461d ago
I'm not buying this console until multiplayer is free, Jesus Christ Sony, you almost had it....
arkard  +   461d ago
Enjoy your Wii U then
swishersweets20031  +   461d ago
i'll enjoy my PC b*tch..
ziggurcat  +   461d ago
really? you get a *lot* out of a PS+ subscription, which is more than i can say about paying for XBL gold.
kidalot  +   461d ago
I'm not buying any console that charges to play bog standard online gaming. I think it's on con on Xbox and it's. a con on ps4. going to start saving up for a PC. Good think ff15 is coming to the ps3 too.
SexyGamerDude  +   461d ago
Where did they mention 15 was going to PS3? The only FF game in that conference that they confirmed on PS3 was 14.
kidalot  +   461d ago
VG24/7 Said it's coming to both PS3 and PS4

http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...
BelieveinGhosts  +   461d ago
You will change your mind you cheapskate
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