Microsoft’s E3 conference has finally wrapped up and it was far, far better than their abysmal reveal event. But will it be better than what Sony has up their sleeves? - PSLS
If sony can hit $449 or less it's got this in the bag.
If Sony does a 450$ price tag they would be good.
My impressions were opposite. It's not a bad price but the conference was just okay.
The other issue is launch titles. It doesn't do to show all sorts of 2014 titles without a firm indication of a stellar launch table. I will go with my earlier prediction of a base PS4 model that comes in at $399 and an all in one model at $450 - $499 that includes camera, PS+ etc.
I just hope they don't have 2 SKUs. I hate multiple SKUs! Specially if they have different features.
It was OK conference, no Kinect bollocks, hardcore gaming. More of the same though, nothing extremely surprising, nothing innovative or excessively impressive. They did good job on hiding crowds impression :D which wasn't as enthusiastic as sounded. Killer Instinct, would love to see it being great, but after few last burns with fighting games, would rather be careful. But I sure know where to look for shooters now :D
with XBLG the price is $550, you can hear the "wha!" from the audience, and low middle class families who are the biggest 369 owners simply can't afford it. I think MS are planning a slower but more profitable start with the XB1 and keep focus on the 360 in NA for the first year, they bet the high income families will buy it this year and hope the ones with lower income hold out till MS can cut the price and bring out the higher profile games later on. if Sony are smart they would go in hard and fast with games and a $400 price and don't get lulled into security by charging $450. this is a perfect storm of beneficial consumer sentiment and market conditions that will never happen again, the ball is in their court.
It cant be that they need that much time to strategize their price in comparison to the $499 xbox one. we know they have the games to show, the only real mystery is the price and the actual look of the unit itself. Their show is at 9pm EST and MS was at 12pm EST. That is a gap of 9 hours to prepare. i expect there to be the reveal of the price and the system and maybe more clarification on their stance of letting the publishers control if there will be fees for used games or DRM. It should be Sony that is in control, afterall...it is their platform.
Does early DLC count? Anyway, the Xbox conference had great previews for PS4 games as well ;)
I'm so hyped for sony E3. Can't wait to see the console and Final Fantasy versus.
the PS4 will still be a great bargain against the Xbox One. After all, if you want to play online with XBone you still have to pay for Xbox Live. With PS4 no additional charge is required.
Which bumps the price up to $549 USD.
that we know of. No doubt sony will be keeping PS+ but they have been studying the trend of pay to play for some time. they held true to their word for the PS3 but will that transcend to the PS4? If they offered tiered service plans that meant the paid members got the better servers then we could see people opting for the better deal of paying. Free play could continue but at the cost of either more ad based game types or smaller games due to server restrictions. sony knows they can make $$ from online besides PS+ subs.
SONY needs to remind everyone that PSN is a FREE service, has a TON of exclusives, and has BETTER hardware.
PS4 will have free-to-play games at launch. DCUO, Planetside 2, and Warframe. Hopefully, Hawken jumps in too.
@darthv72 "they held true to their word for the PS3 but will that transcend to the PS4?" Wishful thinking if your trying to imply otherwise. The PSvita (Sonys next gen handheld and complimentary PS4 device) is doing online gaming a Xgamechat for free. To imply that Sony will have two consoles that are supposed to compliment each other yet have two different philosophies on online gameplay would be retarded. Nice try though.
you glossed over the part where i said tiered service. Meaning that they could keep a free element but it wont be as expansive or dedicated as a paid service. The vita is a complementary device that can fall into any tier of service if you are the one who own the vita AND the PS4. depending on the level of paid service, your ps4 and vita share the same online access. It isnt that retarded (your word not mine) to think sony would do such a thing. its very cost effective, especially if they are promoting the two platforms as a joined opportunity. People would pay for better servers and specific game types. just because you won't doesnt mean the next guy wont as well. Try to keep an open mind, this is business we are talking about.
things are more deep than simple "lower price = Win"... Whit $499 price, i'm sure as shit, MS is taking no loses whit X1. this may hit hard their inicial sales, but this is good for profits, profits that can be used to gain more "advantages" for X1. Sony, in other hand, can take the "Low price and bad profit route", that has no granted sucess. Depends heavily in good sofware sales, is bad for company profit but have better chance to make bases for the console... Let's see what comes on top. No loss on hardware vs loss on hardware and better price tag.
Your spelling made me cry a little.
sorry, my english is very poor compared to my japonese, portuguese, espanol and French...
$499 is a fine price. I'm expecting the PS4 to cost the same
PS4 = $399 XBOX ONE is expensive because of Kinekt 2.0
I bet on $399 PS4 price tag. XBOX one is expensive because it has expensive add-on Kinect 2
$499 with CHEAP DDR3... LOL!
Looks like my previous predictions came true. I'll tell you one thing right now. If they can beat ms launch date by a month or so, even with similar pricing, Sony will start off amazingly! $500 is not a lot for a system with all this tech and entertainment it can provide.
Can't wait till tonight and what Sony is going to show.
Not if MS has bought most of the displays as E3...
I'm still hoping for a $349 PS4 price tag. That would give them an unbeatable edge.
And a major ass lost
I don't think they would take a loss at that price. They might break even, but the components should be much cheaper this time around.
PS3 CPU and gpu cost well over $300. PS4 Apu rumoured to be ~$100-$150. Could easily undercut Xbox and still make a profit,
MSFT will simply offer their subsidized payment plan they use with the 360. Pick it up for $299 with a XBL gold subscription of course that is something that MSFT will not talk about so far out from launch LOL
So... now we're 'waiting for GamesCon' are we for news? I thought E3 was going to reveal all??? Considering how quickly the price was announced and then they closed the show they knew they'd get heat. If they were going to do a subscription at launch then they would have announced it. I don't think the subscription model will come until after the early adopters have bought at full price.
I doubt that Sony will go much lower- unless they are going to have some kind of a Subscription based model.
Nngh, that connect must cost quite a bit. I think Sony can trounce that price. Don't disappoint me, Sony.
I hope you get what you want.
LOL. I just watched the Sony Press Con. All I want to say is Merry Christmas and kiss your fairey God-mother for me. lol In other words, you were right. I don't know how they are doing it- how much of a loss are they selling it- but they beat XB1 by 100. A good day for gamers and Sony fans, a like. "Intelligent" to you... because "Psychic", "Time Traveler", or "Sony Employee" are not available. (joking).
Agent is coming fellas
I'd like to get both, I really do. But can't afford them both. Plus, too many restrictions on MS side. So I will stay on the Dark Side for next gen.
$499 is way too much for what they showed.
Its because of kinect.
$449, no DRM or less convoluted, don't charge for paywalls, and it's over.
500 is a lot ,kinda was hoping like everyone else it will be 450 or lower..but hey if people buy ipads for the same price why not an xbox.
So stoked for Sony... I'm thinking the price of PS4 will be lower than $499.. in reality for me personally I am getting a PS4 regardless of price.. but, for the main consumer they need to set a good price.
I'll put in a pre order, I think. $499 isn't bad for the new generation and I spend that much or more on pastime things all the time.
Kinect is probably what's making that high price tag.
Sony need just 2 things, no DRM , free basic online with no 24 hr crap.
Thats kinda 3...
If Sony don't have any anti consumer measures and price it more competitively it has a chance of winning the generation. I'm sure it won't be another £425 situation.
So 500eur for a console that it will need to be connected online,the games i will buy i won't actually own them,i can't play 360 games on it,the TV crap will not work in my country,so in short NOOOOOOOOO xbox1 for me
$499 = DOA outside of USA.
499 ps4 that includes a wifi vita.....wins 399 ps4 my dream 449 ps4 most likely
Titanfall was the only thing (that was Xbox sxclusive) that impressed me. Game looks like Lost Planet without all the shittyness
i seen nothing that would pull me away from gears 3 or gears judgement ryse looked cool killer instinct is awesome but as everyday playing multiplayer gears of war is taking up all my xbl time....
399$ would be a dream come true for me! I wouldnt want to hit the 500$ mark but with tax and a game its hard to miss even if the ps4 was 399$. Im hoping for a bundle of either killzone or infamous.
Being priced that much below Xbox 1 would be a huge up for Sony. I don't want to get my expectations too high yet though. Still a lot of conferencing left. (But my hopes are in the skyyyyy)
If Sony does a £349 in the UK Microsoft will match it. There is not a chance in hell that Sony will want a price war with Microsoft.
what sucks is if i cant afford my 70$ a month for 10Mbps download speed ( i live in the country and its all i can get) that means my 500$ investment with 60 plus in games is non funtional ? i cant even enjoy my money spent,.... WTF how can anyone accept this
Going lower than 450 will be really unlikely because PS3 is still an option for buyers... If PS4 is 350 than the ps3 is unattractive at 250... With watch dogs, gtaV, GT6, the last of us I think Sony will sell the console at price close to 499... which is still lower compare with the 750 of the ps3 at launch... But if they are willing and they manage to have a better price, it will certainly be interesting to see how that will affect future sells.
I expect a price drop for PS3 and a $450 price for PS4. I will pre-order PS4 tonight If a 450 or lower price is announced.
I doubt Sony is going to want to take that loss initually. I told everyone if the Wii U is selling at a low price as it is and taking a loss then it would be crazy to think that a system that does more would be less. Microsoft screwed Sony IMO if the PS4 is better shouldn't no wouldn't it cost more unless Sony will be tight lipped on the pricing we will never know.
It depends. PS4 price makes a big difference. However, there weren't a lot of exclusives that I was impressed by, I mean I was waiting forever for Killer Instinct, but that's not enough for me to buy an XB. There isn't a lot of games that I am interested in. BUT the graphics and quality of the games is very impressive, I believe that the graphics alone and the capabilities for the console are are very strong, and it's nice to actually see something meaningful come out of MS that isn't about TV or Sports. Although I am still pissed with DRM, and if PS4 does the same thing that MS it's going to make it tough to decide. Price and day one games, that's the reason to buy a console, that and the benefits of the console itself (free online for PS, XBL for XB), amongst other reasons like playability. At the end of the day it's really about which system my friends are playing, but as it stands right now I'm going to swap to PS until I learn more at E3.
$499 is just too much for a console that REQUIRES an Internet connection. I actually would not mind the PS4 being $499 (I cannot afford at the moment either way), mainly because the system is more powerful than the Xbox One and the horrendous restrictions are not there. There were a few games that interested me, Killer Instinct and Dead Rising 3 being the biggest. Really though, I am not going to touch this damn console. There are just so many negatives. Also, really? DR3 as an exclusive? It better be timed or I will lose a lot of respect for Capcom, who has been fairly comfortable with being multi-platform this past gen.
ill buy 2 of them and then, just like last gen, i might consider buying a ps4 to resell it weeks after beeing disappointed, or if MSFT keeps going on the games department, maybe not even need to, words from a happy guy enjoy e3 as much as i do
Surely the PS4 will be cheaper with it not having PS-EYE, Xbox one price would be $100 cheaper without kinect
I still don't see the big deal about the price of something you only buy once a generation. Within reason of course. I don't want to be spending thousands but I won't bother too much about a hundred difference or so.
$500 plus $60 a year. My 360 cost around a 1000 bucks in total now. It's just stupid. Never again. And your forced to pay for Kinect.
Who in the hell is calling the shots at Microstiff? Seriously, they do a reveal aimed at casual crowd then announce $500 console at E3, which is a core gamer and early adopter price point, but they alienated the core gamer with always online and kinect and drm. Who the heck are they even aiming at? I don't think they have a clue in Redmond.
Don't forget that so far Xbox is the only videogame hardware ever to increase in price each year after you buy it. It's $560 just to start, and $60 a year afterwards. After 5 years you've paid $800 plus tax for it. The games at least should be cheaper than PC and PS4 to reflect the fact that often half of it is inaccessible without paying more money.
499 for a new console seems about right. From now to November it is not a lot of money.