Microsoft bring their A game to E3, and hit the ball out of the park.
They really did well, I think it's hard to come away from that thinking they did nothing. However, the still need to show us more of the system benefits of buying into such a restrictive ecosystem. (eg, something like sharing games with a collection of people specifically designated by you free of cost to offset the restriction of hour check-ins.)
I see what you're saying, but uhmm it was great for me. I think both platforms are going to have DRM for used games which bothers me but its not really something that hurts me because I buy new and although theres this stupid process to do it, I can still loan a game to a friend, the rest I actually like the conveniences it brings....but I understand if it doesn't work for some people.
Well it was tons better than the past 2 years.Il have to wait for EA and PS4 conference for reference... haha ... conference for reference
You mean, the DRM where Sony says you can play your games completely off line and that any DRM is up to the publishers? I think a 7.5 or 8 out of 10 would be sufficient for their show tho. It was better than previous years but they take a HUGE hit from me because they clearly, and intentionally avoided any talk about their DRM policies that have been at the forefront of the gaming community since their original XBox One announcement.
I can't go higher than 8.0 because this is the first E3 for the Xbox-one. It should be about the megatons. They did have like 2 but it was more about twisting words by making it feel like they had more exclusives than they really have.
ExPresident JokesOnYou + 1d 14h ago @DayZ, Why o Why... "If i never have to go online, how can they authenticate my games?" -Maybe like this: "Games that are discovered to be tied to another user's account could potentially be rejected. The system works, according to the document, by attaching contactless RF "tags" to each game, which can be read without a network connection." http://m.gamespot.com/news/... I can't say for sure if this is what sony will use but clearly they have the tech available to do it. Just giving you heads up. http://n4g.com/news/1275053... -So drm can be done offline.
For me the content was good. The presentation and overall show was extremely underwhelming. Games didn't pop like they should have. They basically just showed trailers and never really explained anything. Streaming is awesome. Im looking forward to seeing PS4 streaming. The Knack streaming demo seemed very dynamic. This E3 is going well. Oh I got to say $500 is steep. That's basically calling out a hefty charge for the Kinect alone. Last, the smartglass is cool I guess but they need this more open. Don't restrict the platforms so we can see more of what Watchdogs is trying to do.
I think 8 is a reasonable say. They had some really nice gameplay at E3 and it was nice to know that it was all about games, BUT they still didn't clearify the used games policy and the always online DRM thing. Nevertheless at least they improved by a lot since the X1 reveal back in May...
Yes they did, its on the Xbox Wired site.
@below DUH I know that, it actually was not that clear when they typed it out..
as a gamer i enjoyed the only games conference even if very few of them caught my attention, except Remedy game which looks interesting but only CG so far. btw, what is the impressive 360 exclusive they were supposed to show? DRM is a deal breaker as i said before, even if they announced an exclusive FF or MGS. the most impressive game they showed was MGS5 and that's a multiplatform title! The show goes on and Sony will show some serious greatness!
Quantum break was not CG xD
sorry abzdine I pressed disagree instead of agree, I will offer a well said bubble to make up for it,
this show was focused on the games. Exclusive or not....they showed lots of games that appealed to different people.
And that's exactly what they needed to do. Best Microsoft E3 in years. Games were the focus and they delivered some really cool looking titles. E3 is hype building event. I didn't believe for a second that we'd see Microsoft address concerns that have dogged them leading up to the event. Nor should they have. This was about flash and substance, and I think Microsoft did a good job at delivering both. My overall opinion of the XBox One hasn't changed but as far as the quality of E3 presentations go, that was one of the better Microsoft presentations in recent memory. I was frankly pleasantly surprised given what we've seen from Microsoft at E3 the past few years.
They did hold true to their words. It was surely all about the games. They did however not talk anything about the concerns of the consumer, which is a huge negative. MGSV was a surprised though, even though it is coming to PS4 as well.
to be fair, the whole time i was waiting for them to show the dance games and the kinect games, we got non of dat, all badass sweet games
They did well but but that is not saying much after the last few years. There were very few in the way of exclusives. They hardly showed any first-party stuff. First-party is the differentiator there, and they said they had big investment in it, but didn't show it. They showed 20 games and 7 were shooters. 35% of the conference was for them. I don't like the price. I live in Europe so I pay over $100 more and all the tv stuff won't work at launch. The best parts were Witcher and MGS5 but they are coming to PS4 as well. Titanfall looks excellent but to singleplayer mode + no buy My standing with them as improved slightly but not talking about the backlash with the drm and the price say I will not get one at launch.
THIS! My thoughts exactly.
They showed very few exclusives? Ryse. Quantum break. Titanfall. Project spark. Forza 5. Halo 4. Insomniac game. Dead rising 3. Killer instinct 3. This is pretty good for the first wave of revealed games.
And the black tusk game that was teased plus they havent shown their whole hand gaming wise i read somwehre theyre saving some game announcemnt for the future
I was mightily impressed, but still off-put by the whole DRM and online pay-wall:/ Sony, please do not drop the ball!!!!
Dude, Sony will be charging if you want to use Gaikia.
So? Geikai adds value it doesn't take it away, unlike M$ who forces you to pay for online adding DRM and the rest of the crap M$ are pushing, i'll keep my consumer rights and stick with PS4 thank you very much.
1st It's Gaikai 2nd It's an added value feature, duh
That's irrelevant. It has nothing to do with the DRM, or paying to play online.
How is it irrelevant? Sony has yet to announce their oline tier. PSN+ was just a "testing the waters" subscription to see what their userbase reaction would be for paying to play. Sure, don't get me wrong, they will most likely offer a free PSN, but it's probably going to be so restricted of features it's not even worth it. All the great stuff Sony showed off at their reveal is going to cost something.
I expected a $449 price tag and now it is $499. Well... Not a big deal for me. Pros, the things I liked the most: Halo 5 (exclusive) Dead Rising 3 looked awesome (exclusive) The Witcher 3 Battlefield 4 (timed exclusive DLC) Forza Motorsport 5 is just wow (exclusive) Ryse looks really good (exclusive) Quantum Break will be outstanding. (exclusive) Titanfall will be a major game next gen. (exclusive) And that was just what I liked. The things others will like, but are not for me: Minecraft on Xbox One (exclusive) MGS V Crimson Dragon (exclusive) Sunset Overdrive (exclusive) Killer Instinct (exclusive) And we still have to hear more from: Lionhead (Fable IV?) Black Tusk (small teaser lookd nice, but is not telling much) MS Victoria MS Redmond MS Osaka They really delivered. I don't care about this DRM stuff and never did, but as a gamer, you are missing out a lot of games if you don't own a Xbox One.
Im not trying to take anything away here but like I said on an earlier posting expect the unexpected.Alot of the games you think are going to be xboxone will be only timed exclusive games.Give it a day or two and and you will see these games being announced for the ps4 and even pc as well.Im not being a fanboy but this happens every year.MS needs to stop paying for such rubbish and focus on there fans and gamers.I find that MS are very decietful in that way.I hope Im wrong but im not holding my breath on this one because like everyone else we know that there not only for Xboxone especially Titanfall.Its a ways away so anything can happen.The show was better then I expected but still showed alot of CGI instead of gameplay.The gameplay that we saw was good but looks like the same old thing.I was expecting some new crazy IPs but never happened.8.5/10 is to high for me but 7.5 would be much better since the $499 stunned everyone.Way to pricey for something my TV,PC,Tablets can do.The rest of the stuff is just wasted crap that could have been utilized in many other ways.The other thing that will hurt them is that you still have to pay for being a gold member on top of the $499 so really its $549 plus tax.Not everyone has gold and or need the gold membership.MS i hope really plans out there future now because it does look bleek right now.
Titanfall is not exclusive. Its on the PC which means I don't even need to touch an XBox One to play it. Stop claiming it as an exclusive. Minecraft XBox Edition is exclusive. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a PS4 edition and if there isn't thats fine, not my cup of tea and again you can play it on PC, or tablet which means it isn't an exclusive. If you still have faith in the Fable series I'm sorry. You should care about this DRM stuff because its completely anti-consumer and unfortunately it sounds like you'll wake up when its to late and its already shafting your entire experience and rights as a consumer/owner of the stuff you buy.
the difference is most PC games don't require an internet connection except a handful. once you have authenticated the first time your done with it.
grading conferences? how does that even work?
well now we have a good scale to go off of, at least... we now know an 8.5/10 means...announce a product about a month ago, receive unanimously bad publicity for A) trying to appeal predominantly to a non-gaming community, B) Vaguely touching on some industry changing (for the worse) DRM policies, used game availability, and always-on nature, and C) having PR managers back pedaling and contradicting their own words of these issues within hours of the conference... then wait 2 more weeks or so, attempt to make all these issues make sense...and in turn make things even worse...but at least say 'wait until E3, it will all make sense then'... then build an e3 conference in predictable fashion of mostly multplat games and bought up DLC offerings for titles not even released yet...all the while completely IGNORING everything that got them in the hole to begin with...and even worse...price the thing to a degree where any 'non-gamer' would laugh their self to sleep... So thats an 8.5/10 i'm told...I guess this means Nintendo and Sony are safely sitting on a perfect score...even if they just decide to not even have a conference?
6/10 for me.
+Killer Instinct +Project Sora +Titanfall +Halo but Halo 4 just came out -____- +New XBL features My review http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Lol about time they gave you something for paying for LIVE.
A good show by Microsoft.
Their best E3 in a long time, but most of the games that interested me, I can get on PS4 or PC, and they didn't talk about DRM, Privacy, or any of the other concerns. Gaming wise, very solid. The price though, $499 is too much, and their prices outside the U.S. are even worse. If the PS4 is cheaper, it's pretty much DoA outside the U.S. and maybe the U.K.
For $499 it comes with a year of xbox live that you would need anyway if you play online. That drops the price really to $440 dollars. Right about where everyone hoped it would be at!
I pay for internet already, don't think its any kind of bonus to not have to pay for it twice for one year
Voodoopickle Obviously you don't have an xbox. It's not paying for internet. It's paying for xbox live and all the experiences that come with it. If you have a problem paying what equates to $5 a month or 1.25 a week for a service that far suppresses the sony online experience. You probably can't afford to jump into the next generation of gaming and games. Seriously, who complains about 5 dollars a month but calls them self a gamer? Your not paying for online. Your paying for incredible services and features that can ONLY be found on xbox!
XBOX One does NOT come with a year of XBOX Live, you are LYING.
Did not know they score these things but that seems fair I enjoyed it was worth staying up nearly 6am lol.
only thing is the price and no mention of the DMR : /
i give it 3/10 and thats because im being nice
for me MGSV was the best but its on PS4 also Dead Rising looked a bit last gen but looked fun Ryse looked very intriguing other than that... Good show though by MS
5/10 for me. Much better than the last 2-3 Kinect-focused conferences, but still meh. I had so much hope seeing MGSV start off the conference, but it went downhill from there. It's AWESOME that they focused all on games, but it did nothing for me personally. I don't feel thing with FPSs anymore, and got bored with BF4 and Titanfall, and won't care about Destiny or KZ:SF. I don't know. I guess I put my expectations way too high.
I loved the conference, no mention of television or Kinect, just games and more games. The best thing for me was the variety, it blew my mind! I mean Quantum Break (adventure narrative), Killer Instinct (fighting), Forza 5 (racing), Dead Rising 3 (open world zombie), Ryse (hand and slash), Minecraft, Project Spark (don't know how to classify, but looked amazing!), Crimson Dragon, Sunset Overdrive and TitanFall all looked fantastic! Hard to really find a complaint with that show, I put my pre-order in at Gamestop already, you need $100 down instead of the normal $50, but they stopped taking them right after I got mine in. Seems popular.
they wasted everyone time with a bad conference that was the waste conference at E3 I have every seen most of that games they shown were crap making a new model for the 360 a console that microsoft will probably drop in 2 years the XBLG two free games are old and they cost about 20 dollars together and the price for the xbox one that 500 dollar price is bullshit for you to say they did will your head would have to had been far up your own ass oh and titan fall was for pc too so you can add lying to the many thing microsoft did wrong
That is the longest sentence I have ever read. Worry less about video games and more about grammar.
your right i do have bad grammar but i hope you got the point.
You would have **m in your pants if that was Sony's conference. Dont bad mouth just to bad mouth. It wasnt perfect but you definitely showed your fanboy side. Is it priced to high? Thats to be seen. Lets see what Sony prices the PS4. If they price it at $499 it'll be interesting. Would like to have heard more about the DRM but just because they didnt talk about it here means they are done at E3.
oh for the love of god just because i have problems with a microsoft conference that make me a sony fanboy.Give me a break i'm not bad mouthing it because i wanted to i saw some problem that made that conference bad and i pointed them out.The other thing is if the Ps4 500 dollars than i'm not buying it.I'm not a sony fanboy because i'm pointing out problem that should be pointed out if sony have problems in there conference than i'll point them out too.
oh 400 dollars beats 500 dollars and everything microsoft said were going to do the PS4 didn't DRM no problem your move
The only way MS could have hit it out of the park would be to offer free basic online MP. Just because you struck out the last two at bats but got on base the third time doesn't make you special. No matter what, it's 60 dollars a year for the entire gen while selling you half games at full price. Sony could mess up by charging for basic MP but if they don't, they've won this gamer over with better and cheaper hardware.
Id give it a 7/10 which is a good score. Wasnt really blown away by anything that was shown but atleast they showed games and got through with no mention of tv.
They did well at E3, but the issues with the console still remain. DRM - Dumb Restrictions by Microsoft
it was ok not bad not amay,but is it just me or did killer instinct look very last gen.
For me is 7.5/10 Weird that multiplatform titles looks better in every way than XO exclusives.
I would rate it an 8. Still not enough for me to buy one though. At least they didnt talk sports or have bad dance montages. Cant wait for the Sony conference.
Not bad just some technical difficulties with sound. Metal Gear looked impressive, Titanfall looked fun, and Killer Instincts hot damn I'm excited for that one.
People are so hungry for the next-gen that they think vinegar tastes like wine. I love my US siblings but wake the f up. MS, with their pay to play online, sacrificed power for Kinect and and $500 plus $60 per year is only out to rp U. And sell you on how much you like it.
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