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Sony has the advantage, but don't write Xbox One off yet

The waiting is nearly over. Later today the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One will go head-to-head for the first time, as both Sony and Microsoft pull out all the stops to make sure that their console is the one being talked about when the dust settles on E3 2013. Both platform holders have hosted huge reveal events prior to E3 to establish the brand and get people talking, but now the real business can finally start.

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Septic2012d ago (Edited 2012d ago )

I'm not writing the X1 off just yet. If MS bring the goods at E3, then count me in.

I'm not jumping into the mob mentality here that are crying consumer rights only because it serves their agendas; I've seen quite a lot of pathetic posts from keyboard warriors calling insulting/accusing others who show even the slightest interest in anything X1 related.

Yes, some of MS' policies are a cause for concern (even though they don't really affect me that much personally) because of the precedent they might set but I'm no where naive enough to believe that Sony haven't thought about implementing similar restrictions (or might even do so with the PS4).

Ultimately, I'm a gamer and what I really want to see are great games. I'm confident in Sony and its showings but MS are on the back-foot as far as I'm concerned. Come E3, if they deliver the goods, then all the better for the industry. After all, we gamers gave Sony a good kick up the back side earlier this generation when they were the ones going for the multimedia market and weren't really pro-consumer with their 'get two jobs' rhetoric. If we get a repeat of the same thing, albeit with MS this time round, we'll do the same thing and hurt them where it hurts most; their bank.

Cam9772011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

That "I'm a gamer" excuse just shows how inconsiderate you are. Do you understand that the XBONE has the ability to hideously misshape gaming forever? If it succeeds, more companies WILL follow its footsteps because if MS can get away with it, then anyone can! Stop with this excuse and please do what's best for the preservation of gaming as we know it today. I apologise for coming across as rude, but don't you see the implications this anti-consumeristic console has upon the market if successful?

Septic2011d ago

"hideously misshape gaming forever?"

I'm sorry but this just sounds like sensationalist garble to me.

"Stop with this excuse and please do what's best for the preservation of gaming "

What excuse? Playing games that I enjoy is an excuse? Who on earth are you to tell me what platform I can or can't game on? I'm sorry but I will make my own informed decision on whether or not I think the X1 is worth purchasing.

"but don't you see the implications this anti-consumeristic console has upon the market if successful?"

Tell me, if Sony follow suit, what will you do? I am willing to bet that you will still buy a PS4.

Morgue2011d ago

@ Septic

You said " Yes, some of MS' policies are a cause for concern (even though they don't really affect me that much personally) "

Look at MS as a politician. He writes up a bill ( insert policies, requirements for X1 ) it passes without you knowing about it until it's implemented. You may not have voted for him, live in his congressional area but that bill is going affect you wether you realize it or not.

Take the Patriot Act for example.

Septic2011d ago

I am under no false impression regarding the motives of both Sony and Microsoft. Many people on this site appear to be under the impression that Sony is on some charitable crusade yet, when they were riding on a majority market share coming up to the PS3 release, they showed exactly what their intentions were.

Ultimately, both companies are after the money in our wallets. Yes, MS are far more transparent with regard to their motives, but Sony have no other choice but to go all-in and appease their fans. Sony, as a politician, is also playing a balancing act; appeasing its voters whilst making secret deals in the background.

Be wary of the 'party' you do vote in though, because the 'change' that so many are anticipating, won't be as forthcoming as many on here think it is. Also, do be wary of the party that promises everything yet remains vague or silent on the important issues that concern you.

Cam9772011d ago

I won't buy a Ps4 if Sony follow suit. I'm sorry, but I won't. For you see how damaging this could be? The XBOE pretty much eliminates game ownership, what happens when XBONE LIVE goes down? How will you play your games? Exactly. The XBONE removes any value that games had as it's pretty much a long-term rental system.

More to the point, the 24 hour logins are absolute BS. MS new to babysit you in order to play your own (not really) games. What's next, a curfew? I don't get why XBONErs such as yourself defend the XBONE. It takes away any rights you did have. Why don't you change to PS4? That probably won't have DRM. Remember when Sony response to the Twitter campaign saying they're listening? That tells me it won't be like XBONE. Are you really that ignorant that you're willing to put gaming at risk due to some twisted fanboy Sony hate deep inside?

Oh, and if Sony follow suit I'm going to PC. Screw consoles if that's the case. MS are like the Hitler of gaming. First they take away your rights (Nuremburg trials of '35 - XBONE had pathetic DRM), and after that they'll step it up just like the ''Final Solution", however, how Microsoft will parallel this is unknown. They'll find a way though, ohohoho, count on that.

Septic2011d ago

"More to the point, the 24 hour logins are absolute BS. MS new to babysit you in order to play your own (not really) games. What's next, a curfew? I don't get why XBONErs such as yourself defend the XBONE."

Aside from showing your inability to discuss this in a mature manner, you also show exactly the kind of juvenile mindset I alluded to in my first post.

Firstly, we don't know the nature of these mandatory online sign-in's and how they will operate> We have very little info about the cloud will be a part of X1 gaming.

I'm not a "XBONEr" as you quite eloquently put it; I'm a gamer who has played on the 360, Wii, PS3 and PC this gen. I'm not defending anything' I'm simply saying that IF MS impress me come E3, I will buy the X1. You're the one droning on about my consumer rights.

"Oh, and if Sony follow suit I'm going to PC."

Yes, because DRM and restrictions on used games don't exist on PC right?

"MS are like the Hitler of gaming....[silly rant]"

Enough said really....

Cam9772011d ago

Firstly, I'm not denying the existence of DRM on PC; however, I firmly believe it is more user-friendly than MS' intrusive additions and restrictions. Take the Kinect as an example, it just screams that it's a surveillance device when the console doesn't work without it; therefore, I believe that MS have ulterior motives with the XBONE, they can deny it, but they aren't just using it as a platform for games.

How do I know this? Remember when MS were accused of "spying" through SKYPE? I believe that come the XBONE's launch we'll see dozens of articles left rich and centre voicing peoples' fears and complaints. Furthermore, what if MS go to court again on the charge of "spying" over the XBONE? What will you do then? I don't see any good in this company at all. Not only have they made a gaming console lose its focus (emphasis on 'gaming'), but they've failed at introducing the other features. It does TV? Wow, I've been able to do that for decades, MS act as if it's completely new when they're representing it to be an exclusive feature because they know they're lost their gaming focus.

I also believe it's worth addressing MS' tendency to drop support towards "old" consoles. It happened with the original XBONE and it's happening with the 360. MS haven't given the system any notable exclusives for around a year whereas Sony strive in offering an array of unique exclusives. Let's see, PS3 has Beyond, TLOU, new upcoming HD trilogies, GT6 and more whereas MS don't have one. You claim you're a "gamer" yet the most illogical thing to do in that case would be to support MS. Oh well, we can use the state of the original XBONE and the 360 to predict the future: the XBONE will focus on casual games such as Kinect Adventures before being dropped completely.

Septic2011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

Am I correct in assuming you had one bubble before the reset happened?

"Take the Kinect as an example, it just screams that it's a surveillance device..."

Yes but MS have already stated quite clearly that it isn't.

" Furthermore, what if MS go to court again on the charge of "spying" over the XBONE? "

What will I do? Not much really just like I didn't do much when hackers hacked PSN in what was the world's BIGGEST successful hack in history.

"but they've failed at introducing the other features. " Like how the PS3 did when it was supposed to be a state of the art games console but couldn't even support voice messages like the ORIGINAL Xbox did let alone cross game chat?

"t does TV? Wow, I've been able to do that for decades," Have you? Have you been able to multi task on your tv with voice control and snap-on Skype, a game, interactive leagues, browsers etc?

"You claim you're a "gamer" yet the most illogical thing to do in that case would be to support MS."

How on Earth does that make sense? You're the one telling me not to buy the X1 regardless of the quality of games that come out for it. $1 billion dollar investments and 15 exclusives are the things that give me hope and like I said before, I'm waiting for E3 to reserve my judgment about the games.

I'm sorry but I really do question you as a gamer. Your comments in the past show your HUGE BIAS towards Sony and I don't see why I should waste my time proving my point to you (unfortunately, I have already done that).

I have a gaming PC which I played Battlefield 3, Deus Ex, Far Cry 3, The Witcher 2 and others on. I have a PS3 and I have pre-ordered TLOU, have played all the major games on the console. I have a 360 and I have played SEVERAL titles on the console and have had amazing experiences as have many others.

"Oh well, we can use the state of the original XBONE and the 360 to predict the future: the XBONE will focus on casual games such as Kinect Adventures before being dropped completely."

Or how about this...we just wait a few more hours till E3 and then throw our toys out of the pram. We all now you will do it regardless of the quality of the games shown. You are the one that politicised this medium, not me.

I am a gamer through and through and if you have any doubt about that, then come the release of the next-gen consoles, I will show you and everyone on here, on your platform of choice, just how good a gamer I am, by virtue of the share feature that graces both next-gen consoles.

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B-radical2012d ago

arghhhh there both gonna sell well....seriously sick of this console war PC sounds good around about now

Tatsuya 2012d ago (Edited 2012d ago )

Here's what you need to know, how deep Microsoft reveal has affected my judgement and my fellow core gamer brothers & sisters. I'm going to sleep during Microsoft's conference and not going to be bothered by it at all.

Then at 7 am local time, I'd be wide awake for SONY's Conference at 9am. I took day off just for it! The time has come for SONY to take the crown and create a better future for us core gamers.

Legends will RISE!

xBigxBossx2011d ago

Did we all get more bubbles for E3?? Lol it looks like everyone did?

Cam9772011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

Yes we did, either that or they underwent a scheduled bubble reset. It makes sense, it keeps the trolls happy which makes them want to keep on visiting the website. It also makes the serious users happy so it's a win-win for both trolls as serious users.
Thanks N4G!

xBigxBossx2011d ago

Lol yea it's cool. I just got all hyped up thinking I finally got new bubbles... Until I found out I was just one of many lol.

tarbis2011d ago

Aye, we did. More tro.... comments for us. XD

despair2011d ago

didn't notice, still at 5 so its just a reset for everyone not increases, unless the mods don't like me :)

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