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Submitted by kevinrbenitez 566d ago | opinion piece

The Xbox One Reminds Me of the Failed PlayStation X

"The Xbox One may be taking cue's fro m the likes of Google TV, and Apple TV; but, it also may be taking cue's fro m the long-forgotten, and failed PlayStation X (or, PSX.) And with the Xbox Ones" heavy-sided focus on being an "all-in-one-entertainment " device, certainly, some concessions have been made. Microsoft's recent revelations -- the console manufacturer; 0;not the software conglomerate -- have been called into question. Some speculate if tactics employed for its third-generation: Xbox One are, indeed, "Smart...Glass." (Microsoft, Next-Gen, PS2, Tag Invalid, Tech, Xbox One)

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Clarence  +   566d ago
Like I said M$ copies everything.
theWB27  +   566d ago
Can you name one company who doesn't build off the ideas of others??? Please do..
Godmars290  +   566d ago
There's copying something, then there's copying something then directly and aggressively trying to take over the market position of the thing copied. Like MS has tried to do with the iPhone and iPod, and programs like Photoshop.

Worse is that most times, MS doesn't build off anything. They either make an exact or inferior product. Think the only exception to that "rule" was the Zune with its share ability.

Regardless, with the XB1 we get an example of what MS considers "innovation".
PSVita  +   566d ago
Sure didn't hear that when Knect was compared to the Eyetoy because apparently "its so original"...
Clarence  +   566d ago
Your right every company takes something from 1 another. M$ on the other hand out right copies or tries to buy innovation.
DlocDaBudSmoka  +   566d ago
coca cola. boom headshot. I win.
scofios  +   566d ago
The playstation X was the first thing that came to my mind after the xbox one reveal.
Even Nintendo had something like that with the gamecube Q . both failed .
I Don't Know. Maybe M$ Can Pull It Off with their advertising.
Like they did with (eyetoy)kinect .
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kennyg3739  +   566d ago
PlayStation copy Xbox Live. All big companies copy each other, that just nature of the business.
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theWB27  +   566d ago
@Godsmars920
There's copying something, then there's copying something then directly and aggressively trying to take over the market position of the thing copied. Like MS has tried to do with the iPhone and iPod, and programs like Photoshop.

You kidding me? Apple is worse than Micro with their practices. They design their products to ONLY work with Apple products, have you seen the things they've sued other companies over? They build an inferior product and overcharge...bad example. Micro are saints compared to that company. If you have 45 billion on hand in the US(145 billion estimated overall), no debts as does Apple, that means they aggressively took over the market. They didn't pat other companies on the shoulder and ask them to kindly move out the way.
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Clarence  +   566d ago | Well said
Socom came out first
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w...

SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs is a tactical third-person shooter video game developed by Zipper Interactive and published by Sony Computer Entertainment. It is an exclusive title for the PlayStation 2. SOCOM was released on August 27, 2002, and it is one of the earliest titles for PS2's online service in North America.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w...
Xbox live was launch November 2002

See alot of people don't know about this but Sony's online service was not called PSN back then. You had to have dial up and a modem to play online.

Playstation didn't copy live. It was the other way around.
kennyg3739  +   566d ago
@clarnce I'm not talking about who went online first i'm pretty sure that goes to PC or Sega Dreamcast. I'm talking about the whole infrastructure of Xbox live.
Studio-YaMi  +   566d ago
You said that if it was about going online,then PC or the DreamCast takes it,well .. "Steam" came out in 2003.

And basically,Xbox Live and PSN are the same as Steam.

But regarding consoles,yes .. PSN copied XboxLive I guess.
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Elwenil  +   566d ago
I find it funny that "coupdegracecdg.com" is located in Bellevue, WA and the site was registered on May 3rd, 2013. Can anyone tell me what company comes to mind in Bellevue, WA?
DlocDaBudSmoka  +   566d ago
ohhh pick me I know. lol. I know u mean Microsoft, but theyre in Redmond,Wa. but I get the point u are getting at.
Elwenil  +   566d ago
They also have an office in Bellevue.

Microsoft Corporation
205 108th Ave NE #400
Bellevue, WA 98004
Tr10wn  +   566d ago
Because Sony is original right? Move? Wii remote? is a business is normal...
HammadTheBeast  +   566d ago
Move tech was announced back in 2002.
Tr10wn  +   566d ago
Where did you get that info? can't find it anywhere, the only thing somewhat similar is the 3D wand they were experimenting on 2003 with the eyetoy, Move was announce on E3 2009 so i dont know what you are talking about.

Fanboyism>Facts in this site i don't know why i even bother.
ShaunCameron  +   566d ago
@ HammadTheBeast

And Sega had motion controls in 2000.
rainslacker  +   566d ago
And Nintendo had motion controls all the way back in 1989.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Crappy motion controls, but motion controls none-the-less.

Really though, who cares who copied who?
SonyPS4  +   566d ago
Well to be honest Sony has done the same with MS. Their trophy system is their Achievements system. Not to say it's a bad thing because Trophies are by far superior to Achievements. The entire PSN is also hugely influenced by XBL. Without XBL Sony wouldn't have been so aggressive with implementing online play features.

Companies copy all the time. Even Innovative Nintendo is guilty of the same thing (Wii U pro controller for example).
chaos-lockheart  +   566d ago
it's not about copying, its about ...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Upbeat  +   566d ago
pointless then ? lol
theWB27  +   566d ago
A device will fail if it's not in demand...all in one devices weren't in demand then and they are now. I know it was mentioned in the article but that means ALOT. Even bigger factor to it all, gaming was a far more niche hobby than it is now

The sides are too divided now...I dont agree with a few things Micro is doing(mainly the 24 hour check in even though I have internet) I still think they'd have to do more for the Xbox to actually fail.
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zerocrossing  +   566d ago
I don't agree with anything MS are doing... and honestly I'm one who always likes to try and play "devils advocate" but I can't this time, I just can't.

There is literally no way to defend MS's actions, the Xbone is "restrictive" and "intrusive" You want to plug in and play games? sorry need to install them 1st, you have spotty Internet? sorry you need to be online so we can verify you aren't a criminal every 24 hours, you want to game off line? sorry no can do, how else can we check if you actually own/paid for the game?

Honestly, I refuse to have anything to do with such a anti consumer product, the Xbone needs to fail hard to prevent others from following suit, because if it succeeds I weep for the future of gaming...
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Rainstorm81  +   566d ago
I am usually never against any gaming device regardless of my preference... but this device is dangerous to gaming as we know it.

Its like we are witnessing Skynet going online and the more support it gets the stronger it gets.....If this system becomes widely popular next gen just may be the final console generation.
Belking  +   566d ago
You really have no Idea what's happening to the industry right now. There is something out there that is hurting the industry and it's not the xbox-one. It's places like gamestop who rob customers and developers making a profit off of someone else's work.
theWB27  +   566d ago
The one thing I don't do around here is defend Microsoft. But to each his own...I know the pitfalls of buying the XboxOne and I'm choosing to get one, along with the PS4. People can disagree and anti-consumer this and that. The things that they restrict, I already don't do. If my internet goes out, I'll play my PS4, or plug in my 360 or PS3. All I'm saying is, I'll live.

Honestly, the hackers and illegal downloaders( I contributed) helped to make Micro take these draconian steps.

It's not just Micro...alot of publishers were pushing for the kind of control over used games and piracy that Micro has given them. It's w/e...if this were altering my life I'd have a bigger stance but as it stands, I have more important, pertinent things to worry about.
zerocrossing  +   566d ago
@Belking

Honesty? do you understand what you're saying?

Of course Gamestop make a profit off of someone else's work... so do bookstores, car dealers, music stores and comic book/manga shops, should they all get closed down because they profit off of the original creator? no! because they are a sales outlet that helps generate "sales"

Gamestop may be a bad example of a game retailer, but most are forced to sell second hand games primarily because they earn such a pittance from the sale of a new game, the reason why that is, is because publishers take huge cut, if you need to blame someone blame publishers, don't forget that they also profit off of the developers, the original creators.
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SonyPS4  +   566d ago
This console is defeating the purpose of a console: plug and play, and convenience. PC gaming is way more plug and play and convenient than this XOne on paper.

I really hope the people that do plan on buying the XOne really enjoys their system and games, but I fear video games in its entire will be changing for the worse, again.
NatureOfLogic  +   566d ago
@ theWB27

You want to make it very known that you're clueless and buying a Xbox one? Good for you, be a sheep. MS is targeting people like you. People who will try to ignore all of the negative and just bend over and take whatever they throw at them.
theWB27  +   566d ago
Cool story bro...actually Im pretty informed. Well informed actually. I choose to do as I please. I have other devices that are more intrusive than this. The apps you have on your cell phone, are more intrusive than this. Did you know even though you turn the GPS off on your phone, you can still be tracked? Your credit/debit card can be tracked as soon as you make your next purchase. Everytime you go to the ATM, you're recorded.

Cameras are everywhere here in Cali taking pics, how do you know they don't take pics all the time? The cable company knows EXACTLY what shows you watch. Your social security could be being used by some unknown person.

You're a sheep in everyday life buddy...grow the f up. Seriously...we are being recorded and tracked EVERYWHERE. Get off the high horse...better yet you should just drop the grid and grow your own food where there are no power lines.
NatureOfLogic  +   566d ago
@ theWB27

So because you feel like we're already being monitored and tracked in everyday life, that It's ok to just give up our rights so they can expand upon their agenda to monitor us? You make no sense. You're obviously very vocal and aware of the situation and have formed your own opinion on the subject of being monitored. To be aware of these things and not be concerned, Is asking for a future you'll surely regret. Don't ignore what is happening. The "oh well, It was happening anyway" attitude is the reason It's attempted in the first place. You may not care about you rights, but at least be considerate to those around you that do.
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baodeus  +   566d ago
@kingElixir

"You may not care about you RIGHTS, but at least be considerate to those around you that do."

this is what I have been hearing a lot but i'm confuse as to what rights are you guys referring to? Care to clarify the rights that being violated?
ACEMANWISE  +   566d ago
There seems to be a conflict between their actions and their claimed intent of their actions.

Their "harmless" stance doesn't seem to justify any alternative purpose for the implementation of these things. It's like they drew a weapon, pointed it at me, and said...

"Don't worry! I'll never fire! I'll just cock it, that's all."

So naturally I can't think of a reasonable purpose outside of just shooting me. Are they adjusting their sights? No. Did I catch them in the act and now they are pointing out that a crime hasn't occurred yet cause they didn't pull the trigger...and no intent can be proven? Possible.

"Our intent is to point it, for nonshooting-related reasons."

So maybe it makes more sense to get as close as you can and keep it there. Justify the existence of pointing it and ask gamers not to generalize things. Removing it is not your main concern...making people accept it as harmless is.

They will wait until you forget, and they will try again later.
MysticStrummer  +   566d ago
Someone had the theory that they'll wait until the install base is big enough, then start their new policies after people are invested.

It's hard to discount much of anything when big business is involved.
ACEMANWISE  +   566d ago
I have come to the same theory. They will leverage your account against their policies. The greater the investment the greater the leverage to enforce their will.
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Morpheuzpr  +   566d ago
The problem here is that you would be buying a product that's not actually yours. If I buy a console I should be able to do what ever the flock I want with it since I PAID for it. If that's modding it, painting it or throwing it from the Empire State Building it's my property period. Pirating games is illegal but modding the console isn't. So they decided to put us on a leash because legally they can't control what people do with their consoles.
ACEMANWISE  +   566d ago
All they have to do is create a system that doesn't effect the consumer. For collectors like me they could have announced some sort of DRM release system for the end of this generation so that I do real backups enforced by my own account and password. Instead my purchases die when the servers end and that's unacceptable to me.

They could have kept online for the games they shut down by releasing their system and implementing a peer to peer server. Instead they keep their service as the only means to do anything.

To me it's their service that is driving the cost up for this industry. Instead of making the consoles become the online system they create servers to act as a middleman to what already be achieved without it. It's like a third server for nothing. Then they need all sorts of paid staff to maintain them, on top of electricity costs, and an update system that never ends and in most cases doesn't really improve anything. It's like they are there to update in response to everyone else's update.

I used to believe that consoles would implement the good in what updates, online gaming, and digital can do for us. Yet it has become clear they created this system to keep a service going.
Neko_Mega  +   566d ago
The PSX didn't really fail, what was bad about it is the price and the fact it wasn't out worldwide.

I think Japan was the only one that got it, I be more happy to own it then the old PS2 and thats because it is a PS2 with a good size hard drive.
rainslacker  +   566d ago
Sony made a follow up with the PlayTV. It was moderately successful, and still supported by Sony to this day. It actually does a lot of the things that the X1 does now, minus the Kinect I guess.

It's not really lighting the tech world on fire though. MS does have some savvy marketing, so maybe they can make it more mainstream. Most endeavors into this area of entertainment by Apple, Google, Sony, Samsung, etc aren't really something you hear about people needing in their lives. MS marketing could change that. Think the biggest issue is that the X1 isn't actually a cable box or DVR from what I understand. All it really offers is an overlay feature, a few more apps, and the ability to play games.
Dread  +   566d ago
The move was so original

Then the wii mote came and copied sony. Everyone copies from sony, since they invent everything.
MultiConsoleGamer  +   566d ago
It even looks similar.
mochachino  +   566d ago
My only real problem with Xbox1 (besides rip off Live Gold), is the the fact that they sacrificed hardware power to include Kinect in every box.

I don't care about anything Kinect does at all. I can already switch between TV and games in an instant, it called pressing one button on your TV remote. In fact, that's easier than anything Kinect will ever do.
kingPoS  +   566d ago
That's what i thought too. Why would anyone already in possession a dvr need an Xbox One? You can't record tv to HDD, so what's the point.
Agent_hitman  +   566d ago
Yeah I've seen that PSX hardware too.. But I believe it was not released outside japan?.. But it has XMB OS as well.
awi5951  +   566d ago
The gloom and doom is silly the fact of the matter the closed platform guarantees all 3rd party games will be on xbox. Its a higher profit margin for developers not GAmestop thats just the truth. Xbox has become publishers best friend and this closed platform was what the publishers wanted if they didnt get a way to stop gamestop they stated they would have to raise prices up to 70 dollars and that would have crashed the industry. Paying 80 and 100 dollars for games isnt new back in the genesis and super nintendo days games were 80 dollars for some of them. I payed 80 dollars for mortal combat genesis back in the day.
pop-voxuli  +   566d ago
I'm gonna wait till the xbone gets hacked then buy one SECOND HAND, then pirate the living PISS outta xbone games.

I TRULY HOPE M$ SOMEHOW READS THIS.

I ain't the only one who feels this way, and the only reason I WILL do this is solely because of the God awful DRM and restrictions they have implemented. You wanted to fight a war M$? Hope you're ready for what comes next coz we're cocked, locked and ready to rock.
Rainstorm81  +   566d ago
MS has pained a target on the XBone.... The First thing hackers will do is try and disable the 24 hour internet check ins.
pop-voxuli  +   566d ago
There should be some sort of reward that goes to the first one to hack the damn thing.
DOOMZ  +   566d ago
Lets see what Sony has to say about their DRM & how much of their system memory is dedicated to the OS of the PS4!
Qrphe  +   566d ago
The PS4's OS will take up 7 out of the 8gb of ram...or so many of you will pray is the case lol
brianunfried  +   566d ago
Not quite, at least on PSX you actually owned the games you purchased and didn't have big brother Microsoft watching you.
sephiroth420  +   566d ago
what ? i thought psx was the original playstation, time for google i think xD

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