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What Microsoft Needs To Show At E3 To Get Gamers Excited About The Xbox One

Everyday Digitals - After multiple half-hearted attempts to gain control of the narrative, Microsoft finally released a page on their website with all of the new licensing changes. They aren't as bad as some feared initially but they do tighten up control publishers have with regards to who gets to play the game and how compared to prior consoles. With that said lets go over what Microsoft can do to bring some excitement back to the XBox One.

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ExDexteraDomini3972d ago

They need to show us the positive sides to all the seemingly negative changes they've made , as well as the capabilities of their machine. If it really is a 'next-generation gaming machine' they need to show us that their console will be able to keep up in the long run.

pompombrum3972d ago

What positives? If they can legitimately give me reasons why these negatives are actually positives without trying to do some PR spin on it, I'll consider the console.

At this point for gamers, the most important thing Microsoft can show is humility and recognizing the error in their own ways.

ExDexteraDomini3972d ago

This is my opinion: all the decisions made in making the console and the requirements they have put in place do have their positive sides. It wouldn't make sense for Microsoft to make a console that had qualities we gamers would only perceive as "negatives". Perhaps there are some things that seem more positive than negative. For example, the requirement to have Kinect seems like a frustrating and bad thing, but there IS a positive side. If devs know that it comes with each console, it'll be more likely that they implement it into their games. Kind've a nudge to make more unique gameplay if you ask me.

Yes it's different. Yes it's not perfect. Neither is the PS4. You could probably get much closer to perfection when it comes to gaming machines if you built your own PC. Thing is, The Xbox One is very different and a bit weird. There have been many decisions by Microsoft on this console that I perceive as very weird. It would've been much safer to make the same sort of moves as Sony. I think they know that, I think most people could easily see the safe directions for the companies to head.

The Wii was a radical change for Nintendo, they went in a very strange and unique direction with their console. In the days of the Gamecube, Xbox, and PS2, our consoles were different mainly in what they had under the hood, but when it really came down to it, we all played games the same way. Then Nintendo decided they wanted to change the way we played games so they got a little weird with the Wii. This may be the case with the Xbox One as well, perhaps Microsoft is ready to diverge from the pack just as Nintendo did with the Wii. Speculate as much as we will, we'll have to wait till its release to know.

creatchee3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

@ExDexteraDomini
Completely agree with you. So far, the new restrictions only have obvious benefits for the publishers, with the exception of game sharing, which I'm still trying to figure out and digital availability from any console, which is pretty cool.

What I'm hoping for is possibly a lower price point for games. A 10 dollar decrease would be wonderful for gamers, and would help alleviate the strain that those who primarily buy used games would feel.

But yes, it's time to see what we get out of all of this, if anything.

dedicatedtogamers3972d ago

What more can be shown now that Microsoft has shown their true colors? What unanswered questions can people possibly have that will somehow make the Xbox One magically not be the Xbox One.

It's like some guy saying "Hey, I heard a serial killer moved in next door. I wonder if he's gonna bring brats or steak to the neighborhood BBQ next week..."

Any gamer who accepts Microsoft's smoke-and-mirrors magic show tomorrow, I pity you.

MonkeyNinja3972d ago

They need to get rid of:

- 24-hr connect
- Kinect being on 24-hr
- used game fiasco
- (for me personally) bigger hdd since all games are required to install

Basically, what people have been saying all along, stop being so anti-consumerist. THEN people might start caring about Xbone.

BTW, has anyone else noticed all the sudden Xbots on this site recently? And they all just created their accounts? and every comment is about how good Xbone is. Just saying.

http://www.cinemablend.com/...
http://www.cinemablend.com/...
http://www.cinemablend.com/...

notkon3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

psst:
http://www.reddit.com/r/gam...

Sony is also hiring people to comment positive things about the PS4 on social networks.

nukeitall3972d ago

Oh, the hypocrisy!

The original post (right above you) get 17 agrees and 2 disagrees, while yours is completely opposite with 2 agrees and 7 disagrees!

Fangirls!!!

ssj273972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

if is true, Sony is wasting cash .. they don't need to since we are doing it for free as a thanks to them for pleasing us the gamers.

They are pleasing the fans like me and won my respect.. they are not perfect but they could be wor$e..

so I talk good about the PS4 i mean what gamer will not love that baby!! is so cute it looks like is grandpa the PS2 ..

MysticStrummer3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

psst

You ignored the actual issues Monkey brought up.

darkhitman3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

ops wrong reply

shuuwai3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

@notkon

you joined on "09 Jun 2013 (4h ago)"
very shady work here, double pay?? since it's sunday.

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BullyMangler3972d ago

true gamers are excited for xbONE for this years E3 < fact

the whining and complaining will stop

pompombrum3972d ago

Yo shill, they got you working on Sunday evenings? My condolences.

infamousinfolite3972d ago

@MonkeyBootey

Here's another Xbot. His check just came in so he's buying the Xbox One.

On Topic: With everyone of these articles the over all solution to win over these gamers is to do the opposite of what they are doing now and just improve Xbox Live and make a purely gaming console first with great games and great multiplayer games and then work on some other things.

Testfire3972d ago

A true gamer would realize the long term implications of the direction MS is trying to take and how it could negatively impact the future of the industry. A true gamer would exhibit some form of self control and not buy every shiny new system or game just because. I come to the conclusion that you sir, are NOT a "true gamer".

MysticStrummer3972d ago

It's less than a fact that true gamers are excited for the One?

SegaGamer3972d ago

I am a true gamer and i am not excited at all. The Xbox 1 is turning out to be the worst console i have ever seen, and it hasn't even been released yet. This is a joke of a games console.

Sitdown3972d ago

Hahaha.....there are hard core gamers, now we got true gamers. Is there some kind of gamer boys scout patch you get for defining yourself as one of these? What if a true gamer is someone who purchases all systems and all games despite future consequences?.....cause they live in the here and now. Again I say, unless you got stock in these companies, no need to go all crazy because opinions differ.

Tyre3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

@bullymangLer, WHAT? Excited for Kinect 2.0 & Draconian DRM? A (true)gamer knows that this will kill the (true)gamers hobby. The only thing MS has to show is: I can decouple Kinect from the system and start the (console). That we Never have to connect Kinect at all. That we can play used games without a fee. No visual DRM. Games? I'm a longtime gamer but with THIS Microsoft closed system as it is...i'm not interested in what games they have, cause i will not by their Nightmarish construct. A shame on them their losing a longtime loyal buying gamer & a lot of people like me. But i realise now that they do not give a shit about the gaming customers...they only want to use the gamers to get this horror off the ground. F them and their lame system. No game in the world would change this. F some journalists & some retard gamers for supporting this and helping a company (so dissapointed in them) to erode our freedoms. Only if they drop the mandatory Kinect(hardware disconnect possible) & the DRM/Always Online. The press conference will One long sugar coated lie and everything will seem to be dandy. Beware people they will try to do anything to make you believe there is foul stench in the air...privacy software settings, no DRM etc etc. But if this stays the way it is and Kinect cannot be disconnected, the whole always online & visual DRM/other DRM will still be there...they need Kinect to impose this system. Kinect is the center piece, No mandatory Kinect is the key. So as long as it's is there, i will not buy it.

darkhitman3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

@Sitdown

Iv got one, I would classify my self as a natural gamer,
I can get to grips with almost any game with in 10-30 min of starting (apart from "birth of the federation" that one I had to read the manual for)

when i get into a FPS/3rd person for the first time i jump about shot and generally test the physics out

if i see a bird or a fish i try and shoot it too see if its "real"

alway look behind waterfalls

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mrmarx3972d ago

they are most likely paid shills from microsoft sent to troll gaming websites and comment boards.

gamertk4213972d ago

If so, then N4G is the training grounds for the Sony equivalent.

WarThunder3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

Like i always said, MS are destroying console games...

S2Killinit3972d ago

they need to stop the assault on Privacy rights, and they need to stop the assault on ownership rights.

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optimus3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

What they need to do is take back mostly everything they said... Although i like the possibility of sharing my games with 10 people (meaning they don't have to buy) i DON'T like the 24 hr check-in... Since i'm now a casual gamer I rarely turn on my 360 everyday, so the thought of being "forced" to check in especially when i don't feel like it concerns me a lot. What if i go away on vacation?

Granted, it's not seen as a big deal because everything will work once you establish a connection but if i don't connect for several days then will i have several days of download updates to contend with each time?... That is a major deterrent for playing a game for a few minutes. It annoys me now with the 360 with games i haven't played in a while they usually have a title update and i have to wait...and considering my internet speed, that tends to be a few minutes as it is, which will be a lot longer for these blu-ray games.

Not to mention what happens 8 yrs from now when they announce the next xbox? Will i simply be stuck with a blu-ray player since none of the games will work when they shut down the servers?
As of right now, for my money there isn't a single game they can show that will win the public over (or at least me).

SignifiedSix913972d ago

Replying to the last part of your comment regarding the servers in 8+ years.

I think BC will be very easy after this next generation. Thats if they stick with the x86 architecture.

There should be no excuse for either company when it comes to BC.

Also, they may just keep the servers up and just add more to the existing infrastructure.

Would be a smarter idea imo.

optimus3972d ago

They COULD do that, but they'll won't...they had the chance to do it NOW with the new xbox and they DIDN'T...they went through this "problem" with the 360 and their best "solution" was to provide the most "popular" games and after a couple of yrs of adding games they said "that's enough"...

The logical "fear" in backwards compatibility is that it slows down sales of new games dedicated to the new console...and it's just not microsoft cause it happened with the ps3 as well...

The fact of the matter is, when people get a new console they are less likely to play their old games on it, especially if they simply look the same... I still have my 1st xbox sitting next to my 360 and i can't remember the last time i turned it on...
sure we like the option to play them on our new systems but this is where it would hurt the game companies...if you're talking about Christmas it is less likely that you or a parent will buy 3 xbox-one games if the xbox-one was backwards compatible. You're more likely to buy 1-2 and say you'll just play your old 360 games on it to "hold you over"...
This is when developers decide to release hd versions and charge you again for it. If people buy it then that shows them the backwards compatibility is not necessary...personally, i would like to have it since i tend to buy used games to save money but i don't see it being implemented on ANY system from here on out.

Godmars2903972d ago

I expect that the MS show will be the usual staged presentation and any staged responses they think they can get away with. Really doubt they'll directly address the online and used game issues, because the general consumer doesn't know about it and they wont want to draw attention to it.

optimus3972d ago

They HAVE to address it. They painted themselves into a corner, it will be the elephant in the room. Plus, they already said they would be giving more details about it at e3 because people have been "misinformed"...if they don't then they shouldn't even bother releasing it this year cause it will for sure sell poorly.

EverydayDigitals3972d ago

I agree. They have to address it head on. That's been the biggest problem with this whole thing. If they came out in the first event and just explained it clearly they may not have had such a negative reaction.

Godmars2903972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

No. They don't.

Or they may bet that they don't have to be upfront about it. Major game sites aren't making much of an issue about online and used games, so its a good bet that the regular media wont pick it up. They could very well get away with only showing and emphasizing the positives, then give out packets about any "problems" afterwards.

I mean, I don't think that they've ever admitted to RRoD or Vista, so why would they start admitting to their problems now, even before they've launched the product?

That most companies wont address problems head on is exactly the problem with companies today.

MrsJazzy3972d ago

@Godmars290 as much I think they SHOULD address the used game issue, I think you may be right and they may try to relegate it for the press after the press conference so mainstream viewers don't hear too much about it.

It would be kind of a sleazy move but at this point I wouldn't put it past them.

rainslacker3972d ago

They likely won't address it at the conference. The conference is a PR thing. They will play up the couple good things they had in that "clarification" and roll with it. I'd be damned surprised if any of the other stuff gets mentioned without saying how it's a feature that is actually a benefit, not unlike they did in the "clarification".

I'm sure it will be the number one question they will be receiving if they give any interviews to the press which aren't canned though. At most it will be very easy to tell which interviews are paid for based on the nature of the questions asked in them.

Realistically, there are going to be plenty of MS press people there to field questions at the booths. There is absolutely no way for MS to avoid the topic altogether at E3. It just won't be on the main stage, which is what gets the most mainstream press.

optimus3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

Well e3 is a 4 day event, i wasn't talking about their 90min presentation which they said will be mostly about games... If anyone mentions features it would be the developers explaining how their games will work concerning the cloud and multiplayer which basically covers the whole "sharing" scenario...

I don't think microsoft will be handing the press any packets afterwards since they cancelled most if not all their e3 interviews which is why i said they HAVE to address it otherwise the press will eat them up, even the ones that took a neutral side after their reveal...this is their biggest chance to get people back on their side if they don't want people running past store shelves full of xbox1's and go straight to the ps4 in nov.

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infamousinfolite3972d ago

I think with the whole used game situation, Microsoft won't block used games at least not entirely they'll won't say that it will be blocked but they won't say that's it's entirely accessible, either.

So my take on it is that it will be blocked and at the same time it won't.

gamertk4213972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

Never admitted to RROD??? They changed their entire warranty setup and spent billions of dollars to rectify it! Wow, please tell me you aren't that blinded. @mars

Godmars2903972d ago

Addressing a problem is not the same as admitting one exist. The warranties though directly specific ignored associated issues like the damaged discs, though I think they covered that separately.

But really, the big difference between addressing a problem and admitting to one is that in the latter case you learn from it in the hopes of not repeating it. And by all accounts the XB1 might be running into overheating issues where the PS4 isn't.

That very much says to me that MS is repeating mistakes.

gamertk4213972d ago

That is a boatload of conjecture, though don't you think? In terms of your position on addressing and admitting, I'd strenuously disagree. In order to address it in the manner in which they did, by shelling out 10 figures, the implication is absolutely one of admittance and rectification. Any argument to the contrary is merely one of semantics, but in my opinion, is not one that holds water. Oh well, agree to disagree.

Heavenly King3972d ago (Edited 3972d ago )

AND stop being anti-costumer. When that happens people will begin to be interested in it.

until then; most people wont care about what M$ does; including lots of 360 users.

infamousinfolite3972d ago

What I don't like already is the hurdles you have to jumped through just to play A game. The info we got dealing with policies, always online, and kinect that was a checklist for us gamers (those who pick up an Xbox One) that we must go through before we play A game.

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Xbox Is Not Your Friend

After laying off almost 2,000 people, Xbox finds itself in a position at odds with the community-first image it has cultivated for itself.

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TwoPicklesGood4h ago

lol I’m not a big MS gamer but Sony and a number of others have laid off ton of people as well. Where are the ridiculous articles about them not being your friend? Gaming news is such a joke and these sites wonder why they have to beg for money/patreons or flood with 5x more ads.

Profchaos3h ago

I think the sentiment is corporations are there to make money they are not out friends that are harsh and cutthroat when lt comes to the bottom line so why do we proclaim our love for any gaming company from the rooftops when they wouldn't care about us unless we are buying the next thing.

We need to beore objective with how we view these "teams"

Gridknac2h ago

This is the absolute truth. The only part of you these companies, ALL companies, want to be friends with is your bank account. They don't care what they have to say, who's job they have to cut, or what shady underhandedness they must engage in. Bottom line is all that matters.

Vits1h ago

Because people unfortunately make these companies and products part of their own persona, so when they are scrutinized, they see it as an attack on themselves. There is some neuropsychological research around this phenomenon, but it basically has the same effect as religion. It helps foster a sense of community that humans need to feel comfortable. So that is not happening unless we have a sudden surge of people actually understanding how they work and taking control of themselves.

Magatsuhi1h ago

While it's true Sony isn't a friend either, let's not pretend that they're even in the same ballpark as MS's anti consumer practices. Sony is not a friend but atleast they're not an enemy like MS.

derek2h ago

@twopickles, were you not paying attention? Sony was heavily criticized when they laid off people weeks ago, more than Microsoft did with their massive abk layoffs.

Gamingsince19811h ago

I want to know who thought Xbox was community first anyway lmfao

ChasterMies44m ago

That’s Whataboutism. Sony and other game companies didn’t pay more than $80B to buy up publishers. Microsoft said in court that it wasn’t going to have redundancies and fire people. Microsoft told Xbox owners that they would have a AAA on GamePass each quarter. But here we are with Microsoft Game Studios shrinking. Consolidation doesn’t benefit the consumer, and no company has consolidated more than Microsoft.

BehindTheRows40m ago(Edited 39m ago)

Exactly. They love their SonyToo instead of looking at everything in its totality. You spend $80B to buy up so many pubs/devs, you damn well should have something to show for it.

That said, this article is old and someone is clearly looking for clicks!

z2g9m ago

I’m glad you see the thru the reality distortion field so many on this site don’t. My brother-in-law was just let go from PlayStation (here in PV/LA) literally just weeks ago after taking the job just 2 months before. He quite his previous job that was doing just fine to work for Sony.

Christopher0m ago

I agree that every corporation is part of the problem, but bit perhaps in the future have more of an argument than a whatsboutism? It makes it sound like your only issue is that people are complaining about Microsoft.

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cthulhucultist2h ago

ok here is a reality check. Tech companies have been firing thousands of employees the last couple of years.

I find it odd that the percentage of employees sacked from MS

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"Microsoft announced approximately 1,900 job cuts across its gaming division, including Activision Blizzard, ZeniMax, and Xbox. 8.6% of its colossal 22,000-strong global workforce. "

is worth writing an article condemning the company, when Sony Interactive fired 8% of its workforce (900 people approximately).

https://news.crunchbase.com...

Is the writer concerned about the percentage of the workforce fired or the number of employees?

Lets not forget that Unity laid off 25 percent of its workforce (1800 people) and Discord laid off 17 percent of its employees.

You also have to take into account the AI issue reported in the article. MS is heavily invested in A.I. They have invested in Open A.I (chatgpt 4+Dalle 3), in Abu Dhabi’s G42 and in French AI company Mistral.

These LLMs have already replaced thousands of jobs as A.I usage becomes more common

https://www.cbsnews.com/new...
https://www.theverge.com/20...
https://tech.co/news/compan...

This is the new reality. Even nvidia CEO said that games will fully A.I generated.

https://www.pcgamer.com/sof...

Nevertheless, no company should be ever viewed as "your friend". MS had numerous anti consumer practices in place and the same is true for Sony (not only in video game space) and Nintendo (60$ dollar games without permanent discounts, remasters of 10 year old game with full price, no console price cuts, expensive joy cons which are prone to drift, to name but a few).

Popsicle2h ago

Must be. Thought it to be common knowledge that no corporation is your friend.

rippermcrip2h ago

Xbox had a community-first image? Since when?

shaenoide2h ago

Any given company is not "friendly"...

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere15h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN12h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos9h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN3h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo4h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies49m ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger12h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto14h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos13h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long10h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel13h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator12h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

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purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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