Redbox, a major movie/rental company, is crusading to inform gamers about the possible limitations on used games and rentals on the PS4 and Xbox One. They have strong words about these policies.
good gooooood, spread the word
"Reports say that Microsoft’s Xbox One and Sony’s PlayStation 4 might have enhanced graphics, enhanced motion control, cloud-based storage, new games and experiences. But you might not be able to play without an Internet connection" I like how they try to include PS4 in there, even though Sony clearly stated that you WOULDN'T need an internet connection. Is that hard to understand?
Odd wording by Redbox, but nonetheless they are referring to how Sony has already said they will "leave it up to the publishers" whether PS4 plays each publishers used games.
Where was it stated that Sony had Anti-used game policies in place? I don't think anyone(from SOny) has said definitively one way or the other. I suspect, that they're going to leave that up to publishers much like MS is because I really think it's the publishers that are driving this sort or trend. It's just a matter of who is going to pull the trigger first. MS just played their card and acknowledged this is how it's going to be.
The fear is that leaving something like that up to the publishers at all is a bad thing. Some say publishers shouldn't have the option in the first place to block used games.
And built their entire console around that idea. The way it was going to be? They made it the way it is going to be. The console doesn't play discs at all. The disc is an installation disc only. The Xbox is made so that the publishers can do whatever they want. Make no mistake. This is a disgusting marriage between MS and big pubs. No one has clean hands on this issue over there @ MS's lair.
@Crazay Where have you been. Sony was the first to announce that DRM will be up to the publishers. They made that clear in several interviews, way before the MS crap storm. Sony also stated that users do not need an internet connection in order to play games. They also stated used games will continue on the PS4 system. Granted this is a publisher issue but many forget MS applied an always online restriction to their console. Also the features that were addressed by MS a few days ago will not be available at launch. The last few days I have been trying to point out this fact because it points to the fact that MS had stricter DRM requirements and it wasn't until gamers complained before they changed their policies. Please catch up with the news because if we are all informed of what is going on we can help the next person.
Uhh that would be EA then Capcom.
WHERE IS GAMEFLY? They need to be front and center for this fight!
DRM needs to die. http://www.gamespot.com/new...
Hell yes! Considering they buy hundreds of thousands of games. Pubs lose a bit of sales initially sans the rental guys. They buy a lot of games across all platforms. They are all our saving grace. I'll be honest too. GAMELY introduced me to countless titles I would have never played, let alone purchased afterward.
Red Box is protesting anti used games for Xbox One, and wait for it... PS4. Now you Sony fans claim there is no drm against used games on PS4 if that was so PS4 wouldn't be mentioned by Red Box only Xbox One. I told you people, you better get your head out of Sony's ass and wake up. I think Red Box know more about what Sony has plan then their fan boys do.
you have got to be THE dumbest person on the internet by far. The fact of the matter is the PS4 will still be the superior console and the xbone wont sell and what it does sell will be returned in the 24 hours it takes for ppl to realise they cant play games without the internet. Ill translate the english to something you might be able to understand whoyouwit04 derrrrrrp herrrrrrrrrrp derp herp derp I have a feeling they have no clue what sony is doing so they have added them to it for just in case.
"I have a feeling they have no clue what sony is doing so they have added them to it for just in case." A feeling huh......lol You're wrong dude. You have got a feeling that they have no clue because that's exactly what they wanted you to believe. Even Red box isn't that stupid to know this will only be for one console. Sony was being smart and keeping quiet about it but it's gonna be out in the open soon. They will have to come clean about that and rising membership prices because of Gaikai. The truth is that it will have some sort of DRM and will require the internet too. All those nice social features about game updates, and connecting with vita will require something called the internet. DRM will be on sony's console too. This will be a industry standard. you can thank places like gamestop for it too.
Okay, first I can give a dam if Xbox One sell 100 or a million; I will buy it and the PS4 regardless of DRM. I can except this is where the gaming industry is headed, You Sony fans are truly in denial now. Sony clearly sad DRM is up to publishers. Up to publishers, what the F*ck do you think they are going to do? And what the hell do the PS4 being superior has to do with any thing? That sounds like some BS you Sony fans will bring up, but after Monday that's the only argument you Sony fans will have. know more play station is DRM free no more Sony as the most, and best games... mark my words. You have a feeling, So your feelings make the world go round now. I have a feeling about a lot of sh!t; that doesn't mean I'm right.
"you can thank places like gamestop for it too." Yes they aided all those economic insurgents who dared to think they could sell something they bought, or maybe buy something that someone else bought but didn't want anymore. Microsoft will show those terrorists when they commence Operation Enduring Profit.
lol so i get a reply from 2 of the biggest idiots on the internet, all we are missing is greenpowerz and jporkins then we have 4 of a kind to win the dumbest hand in poker to ever be conceived but im pretty sure you dont get 4 jokers in one pack right ? IF the pubs use a DRM of some sort it still wont be any where close to the clusterf^ck that M$ has at the moment, you xbone fans are just plain retarded like you have been lacking oxygen for extended periods of time. none of that is directed at you mystic
@Belking using the Vita is an option not a requirement, so if you don't have the internet then you already know you don't have that feature. Gaikai is also a feature for all we know there's a separate subscription for it aside from Plus, but its not mandatory. Neither is being online for PS4. Stop trolling.
"I told you people" ~~~ Corny, Self-Proclaimed Preacher of Internet Doom
Did you take your meds? PS4 games will have DRM when the 3rd party pubs implement it. Your console of choice sux. Deal with it. Punk
You're claiming a movie rental company has inside information about PS4? lol Sony has clearly stated more than once that PS4 will not require an internet connection. Will not. Require. An internet connection. Whatever their plan regarding used games may be, it can't possibly be the same as Microsoft's.
If Sony's measure of drm involves online passes... then I can live with that.
Why was the PS4 included in their statement? Sony has already said their first party games will not have drm *link incoming from the naysayers... http://www.cinemablend.com/... Here ya go :-)
Look, I love Sony as much as the rest of you, but I dont know where everyone is getting it that Sony is in the clear. Sure they said they won't require an internet connection, and that's a big step in the right direction. But what they did say was, they were leaving it up to the publishers. And we all know that if the publishers have it their way, things won't just be all cakes and pies. We have already seen them fighting with the online pass programs. It may be possible for them to take things one step further with one time activations. We don't know yet. And if that's the case then, yes, Sony will be included in that list of restricted rentals. I hope for the best during E3. But if Sony only takes a 'passive' stance on all this, it still might be the wrong move for gamers.
But the thing is, Sony's first party titles, and other less greedy publishers' PS4 games WON'T require this DRM method. Even if Sony ALLOWS EA or Activision to use it, others won't and Redbox would still be able to rent out PS4 games, whereas they'll have ZERO XboxOne games regardless of what Publishers say or do. This is the issue with doom and gloom folks when it comes to Sony's PS4 and DRM. Sony has already confirmed it's up to the Publisher. And the Publisher will know that doing that will most likely cause backlash. At least on the PS4 you'll have the option of boycotting shitty DRM's, and only paying for games that exclude it, SHOWING Publishers it's a bad move. ;TLDR XboxOne's only option is DRM. Therefore you cannot rent/trade/borrow games. PS4 doesn't force obtrusive DRM's, and leaves it up to the publisher. Therefore you can still rent/trade/borrow most games & vote with your money.
This is true. It could get annoying and confusing trying to figure out who blocks what.
Im a big SONY fan.. But Im not so naive to think that they couldn't implement something similar into the PS4.. Which would be a serious no buy for me.. I would stick to my PC and may even pick up a Wii U.. All gamers should boycott these horrendous DRM,anti used anti consumer practices regardless of their favorite console or company..
Exactly. With the PS4 having the infrastructure that allows DRM, Sony imposing it is a possibility whenever they deem fit. Just like how they removed some features from successive PS3 models right under gamers' noses because according to the EULA they were well within their rights to. And this is the same Sony that had DRM on their retail music CD's some 8 years ago. Just Google: sony drm scandal.
Wow this is getting outta hand bad. M$ has dug themselves into a hole even saddam couldn't climb out off. This is crazy entertaining. Can't wait for the lawsuits to follow.
Why can't you people put this in your head ?. Is it soo hard ? PS4 wooooon't fooooorce yooooou tooooo connect tooo the internet . Which means NO CONSOLE DRM LIKE X1. Please get over it. They said it's up to publishers. If there will be a drm it will only be on the game it self like simcity . It's not sony fault. Just boycot the games that will have DRM in ps4 and you will see it disappear but i don't expect you people to sacrifice just like the pass codes.
"Just boycot the games that will have DRM in ps4 and you will see it disappear but i don't expect you people to sacrifice just like the pass codes." I agree completely. Sony's system will allow for customers to show their displeasure by not buying those games, but the weak minded masses will just buy them anyway.
Exactly. On the PS4 it will be a choice. I choose NOT to support any publisher that implements any form of DRM on the PS4. I am done with MS for doing it with their hardware (X1) and I will be done with any publisher that tries to implement that trash on the PS4. Regardless of which game it is or how much I have enjoyed the series over the years. I wont support nickel and diming or anything that could be detrimental to the industry I have supported over the past 3 decades.
everyone should be using twitter an facebook to spread the word so everyone knows not jus us gamers they can do what they want but im not gonna let it slide that easy
Wii U for the win !
every company should do this even gamestop.
EA already announced that they are ending online passes. One way or another, that means that they have some form of DRM in place for it's PS4 releases. The good news is that Killzone, Drive Club, Uncharted 4, LBP3, Last of Us 2, Infamous, Final Fantasy 15, GT7......and all of the other great PS4 exclusives will most likely be DRM free.
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