Trying to be an optimist for a change, Gamers Association editor Luke Frazier imagines a future where the absence of used games creates a trend toward Steam-like deals in the console space. Is he on to something, or just plain crazy?
I wish I could be so positive, but the fact is Steam allows for such great deals because they have competition, the direction MS wish to take eliminates competition and gives total monopoly, they won't have to give you great deals because you'll have no where else to go to get the content you desire.
I rarely buy used games (I'm not the guy buying CoD 2 months after release for $40). I buy used games when a new copy is out of print, difficult to find, or prohibitively expensive. Used games allow collectors like me to find a game long after it has left store shelves.
Exactly this, finding a gem at the bottom of a bargain bin or amongst a copy of 100 COD cases may never happen again, because you won't even know to look or the privilege may not even be there if resales are restricted or it's all gone digital distribution.
True enough, I see both Sony and MS setting up some sort of "digital renting" like they already do with movies. Which if, it's cheap is awesome. No more waiting for Gamefly to finally send you the game you want or trolling the rental store because they dont have a copy.
@ Thatlalala I'd be happy with digital renting if it is an option...not the only method. Convince me to digitally rent games by making it convenient and affordable (like PS+, which is essentially digital renting). Don't force me to use it by making it the only option.
Not everybody can buy every new game for every console at the same time. It's just too much money. * What if I don't get into playstation until 3 years from now and I buy one and want to get into some games. I should have to pay $60 for all the games 3-4 years after their release, when 10% of them were barely worth $40 to begin with ? I don't think so
3-4-5 : where do you shop where a game that has been out for three years is still $60 brand new? People act like games don't get price dropped within 6-9 months permanently. Maybe your COD's of the world that consistently sell don't, but even COD three years later brand new is 20 bucks.
I can't even really say I support the Steam model either since it still undermines what can and cannot be done with purchsed content. Once digital starts giving me the option to sell, loan or keep a copy outside of a user account I'll be more open to it but as it stands it's still too limiting.
But in MS's defense, the console market doesn't have a whole lot of competition aside from Sony and Nintendo to begin with not to mention its reliance on retailers to sell their hardware and software. Besides, the console market has always been uber-monopolistic.
there are those that still want that sense of "ownership." They much prefer building a library of physical copies than owning the game digitally. From a Collector's standpoint, downloading a game isn't that much convenient than stepping inside the store to pick up a copy of the game. It is definitely cheaper, but it strips off the feeling that "you got" the game on your hands or at home. IMO, having a physical form of the game is like having respect for it and you do that by providing a proper protection. Physical games is just another form of protecting and storing your games if you carefully take care of them that is. Thankfully for blue ray technology, it minimizes your disc from getting scratches overtime.
IMO based on the link you posted, Steam is >>> xboxone
That's my point. The title as of writing this is "Maybe We Shouldn’t Care About Used Games" and article compares Xbone to Steam, trying to say that Microsoft is going down the same path. But Microsoft is going extremely anti-consumerist with Xbone. Just trying to get the word out.
Everyone still pirates 90% of PC games, even off Steam. Just sayin....
This would all work if it was all digital copies only and retail games still worked like retail games
anything I buy I should be able to sell....period. thats how it is. I can buy a egg eat half of it and if someone want to buy the half eaten egg I could sell it. so unless I hace a contract telling me not to sell its within my rights to do so. also who the [email protected]& # are they to sell me somethin and THEN think they charge me to sell it or tell me I cant sell it is some bs.
M$ said their policy allows for you to sell or transfer your license once per game. You can sell your Digital games. You can share your games. Your family can play your games on any X1. M$ will not make any money on license transfers. Your info is wrong. Read what M$ said before you follow the crowd. Seriously, you have the wrong info.
You can only sell a game to someone who has been on your friends list for more than 30 days. Then they will not be able to sell the game, ever. And you can only sell your disc based games. You cannot sell your digital games.
I can sell it but only how they say I can does that not sound ridiculous to anybody else.
I know a lot of informed people aren't too happy about what Microsoft is doing but it seems like most of the people the most outraged are either misinformed or have no reading comprehension. There is so much false/old information floating around.
Microsoft have only stated that Microsoft studio games won't charge a fee for used games. But other publishers are free to charge if they want to. And if they aren't going to get a cut from used game sales then what is the point of all this DRM complicating our use of the console?
So... I've had the same 100 friends for at least 5 years now. No biggie there.
oh im informed...my point is my freedom to do what I want with what os mine...especially something I spent my hard earned cash on...no rules or them telling what, when, where, or how to do anything with something I own...period. if I want to microwave the thing I can because I bought it....all these people making excuses for what is happening is a fool.
I'm positive that there isn't a rule against you microwaving it, so you are good to go.
People will do anything just to save 5 bucks buying used, even if the used copy was ripped in half.
***Imagine a world where online stores on consoles no longer have to worry about maintaining high prices to keep physical retailers relevant*** Imagine a world where collector's editions and the advertising of them go by the wayside. Where shelf space for any game product shrinks to less than that of the space given to gift cards. As the power of retailers shrink, so does their care to support a business model that moves away from their own. *** Imagine it and smile at the thought of publishers and developers alike having complete control over the price of their game downloads. *** I don't have to imagine it. It's already that way on 360 and PS3. I can pay full price for a stripped down digital item as opposed to the many deals that retailers and PC digital stores offer. ***If nearly ever title could be yours for $20 during some sale within a year of its release, would GameStop’s pre-owned shelves really matter?*** I would rather not trust a business with that massive of an "If". Especially when it's not publishers who have shown practically no regard for the desires of their customers through online passes, nickle and dime DLC, and overhanded DRM.
"I would rather not trust a business with that massive of an "If"." Yep. I love how people point to Steam and say "Steam has DRM but look at the saaaales!" (as if the DRM and sales are somehow connected LOL!) But what these obviously non-PC-gamers do not understand is that Steam has competition from a ton of websites, not to mention rampant piracy on PC. Another reason why Steam offers sales is because - unlike browsing a store shelf - people don't sit there clicking through a list of 100s of games. They check the front page, see what's new, see what's on sale, and then pick a game to play out of their library. Steam's "shelf space" is about 20 titles on the front page and after that you have to dig into sub-menus.
He's just plain crazy, unless Microsoft just decide out of the goodness of their heart to drop the fees they are paid for a game appearing on their console....and I simply don't see MS throwing away that much money. The only thing Xbox One has going for it is the slight chance that a publisher will "allow" you to trade in a game at an authorised retailer. Private sales have been all but killed, unless the person you're selling to has been on your friends list for 30 days, and even then they won't want to pay much as they'll then be stuck with the game. It's got all the restrictions of Steam, with none of the awesome sales, mods, customisations or free online play (because they'll be charging for Live)....and the only thing in Xbone's favour is the publisher playing nice and letting you trade. And that's going to be fairly unlikely because publishers HATE used games. Even if they get a cut - which they're NOT entitled to IMO - I don't see many allowing it. So no, I don't see anything close to Steam being on the Xbone....they want it nice and restricted so they can fix prices to their liking, and those prices will be at LEAST what they are now...maybe more.
Having to buy a game for 60$ plus tax and not be able to sell/let it be borrowed is just bull****! Plus I found some great games used since I didn't wanna buy it full priced due to being unsure about it. If used games are a no go....prices will have to come down for new copies.
Microsoft isn't even profiting off of this as we originally thought. Honestly all they did was give the power to the publishers so those are the companies we should look towards. The One is just the device to foster the software companies. Getting mad at MSFT is strange because they are neither forcing this or making money from it.
MS built it into their software with the mandatory online checkup. So yeah it is their fault. Sony leaving it up to the publishers and NOT requiring their system to do a checkup every 24 hours would make it the publishers fault. What MS sony and nintendo should have done is tell the publishers if they push these kinds of policies on us then they won't be ALLOWED to make games for our system. Publishers NEED the big3 to sell their games. MS sony and nintendo have enough in house devs that they could survive until the big publishers change their minds about this nonsense. Imagine if activision or ea couldn't sella game on anything but pc. What kinda change of heart do you think they would have?
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