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Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing and Privacy Features - Ms confirms 24 hour check in

Two weeks ago we introduced Xbox One, the all-in-one games and entertainment device. Designed for today and the decade ahead, Xbox One puts you at the center of all of your games, TV, movies, music, sports and more. We also shared how Xbox One is built to amplify a new generation of Xbox Live that’s more powerful, personal and intelligent.

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duli141837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

All the rumours were true! There you go guys confirmation from the main man! here I come ps4

''With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library. Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies.''

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dedicatedtogamers1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Some good things. Some bad things. Overall mostly good but I'll wait to see further details once this thing is actually put into action.

Obviously, Microsoft is going to make this EXPERIENCE sound NEW and EXCITING so don't take it for face value. There's still a lot of ambiguity and vague phrasing.

Good:
- Microsoft doesn't insert their own fee, but no word if publishers/stores will insert a fee
- Day One Digital (finally). Microsoft is getting with the times
- you can play your games via cloud/install, either at your own house or a friend's house (sounds like a solution to something that wasn't a problem, but whatev. It's the future)
- anyone can play your games on your console (we pretty much already knew this)
- games can be given away

Bad:
- seems to confirm that renting, lending, or otherwise playing a friend's game without your friend being logged in is a no-go
- 24-hour check in confirmed
- you can only trade in your game via "participating retailers". How will private sales be handled (if at all?)

Confused:
- "each game can only be given once" Obviously a person can't give the same game to 8 different people, but can the recipients pass the game along? I'm curious to see how this will work. Can they give it back to you (allowing lending?)?

Godmars2901837d ago

Don't forget if they ever move onto another system or stop the service, all you'll have is a blue ray player.

HammadTheBeast1837d ago

After you're given it once, it can't be given again.

Also, the Cloud gaming at a friends house only works for one hour.

dedicatedtogamers1837d ago

@ Hammad

It can only be given once? Laaaaame.

And the cloud gaming thing only works for one hour? Will it work more than an hour with the disc installed? This sounds terrible but I feel like we don't have all the details yet (not defending MS, just asking pertinent questions).

MikeMyers1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Give your games to friends:
"Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once."

There you go. Much better than the fear-mongering we've been seeing.

Trade-in and resell your disc-based games:

"Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games."

See the part where it says MS does not charge a platform fee?

Regardless of the new details we will continue to see familiar folks retain that same negative image towards the Xbox brand.

"Loaning or renting games won’t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners."

Awesome.

Bring on E3!

EDIT

@Why o why,

Renting to me is awesome because it's so hard to rent games in my area. This is something the consoles should have been doing on their own years ago. That's one of the things I like about Playstation Plus, you can play some games for free for an hour. I would love to play games for a rental period of maybe 24 hours for a reasonable price.

Why o why1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

"Loaning or renting games won’t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners."

You call that 'awesome'... the ability to do what we've done since the dinosaurs gamed....you really are super loyal to ms... credit to ya. You, j porkins and a few other can almost see no wrong with ms's strategy. Yes, some will hate for hates sake which is annoying but others will defend as if ms corp is a defenceless innocent newborn. There are people in between who JUST DONT LIKE THIS. guess we all should just change our names to Ben Dover

Salooh1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Short way :
Buy physical disc > Install the game to the (console) and to (cloud in your account) > Play the game anywhere you want as long you log in to your account > The other accounts in your console will have unlimited access to the games (Like the ps3) But 10 family members can access your game library anywhere they want > You can give only one friend your disc without fees > You only can sell the game to retailers (Fees depend on the publishers) .

No loaning and renting in launch .. They are saying it like if this is a positive thing lol. Headache >.<

kneon1837d ago

The cloud gaming at a friends house only works for an hour unless it can check in over the internet again.

But with the size of games today do you want to wait for game to download every time you go to someones house?

They've tried to loosen things up a bit but overall it's still pretty negative.

One thing that is not mentioned is that you can't permanently give away a game to a friend. You can sell it via certain retailers but only they can take back your license and reassign it to a new buyer.

Bzone241837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

@Hammadthebeast

"Also, the Cloud gaming at a friends house only works for one hour."

Complete misinformation from you multiple times in this topic. You will need to check in once per hour online to play the game. Not the works only one hour of play lie you are trying to spread.

dc11837d ago

In short:

- Games are locked on to ONE console only or

- A game can be given to a friend ONCE and then blocked from every been shared again... meaning that the game would be married to the second console for life.

Unless ...

- The game is traded through a participating establishment; effectively starting the cycle over again (and passing money back to MS, the Publisher and the Dev).

Grindlefly1837d ago

Also don't forget the small print at the end of each section

"As we move into this new generation of games and entertainment, from time to time, Microsoft may change its policies, terms, products and services to reflect modifications and improvements to our services, feedback from customers and our business partners or changes in our business priorities and business models or for other reasons. We may also cease to offer certain services or products for similar reasons."

So eventually they will charge to trade

gatormatt801837d ago

"Loaning or renting games won’t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners." 

I wonder how Gamefly feels about that statement?

DragonKnight1837d ago

@Mike: "There you go. Much better than the fear-mongering we've been seeing."

Words to remember: Publishers, CAN, Enable, and only given once.

This still isn't good.

"See the part where it says MS does not charge a platform fee?"

Oh how charitable of them. It's because they're already charging for Live and allowing publishers to charge instead.

"Awesome."

Oh yes, not being able to loan or rent games is totally awesome indeed.

JokesOnYou1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

"Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games. Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you."

"Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time."

-I have a mixed reaction, 24hr check ins, Kinect, are fine with me, DRM has pluses and minuses as I can now still share games with friends it just isn't as consumer friendly as its always been, all in all at least micro listened and its obvious they made some concessions from their original plans, its not perfect but nothing that's a deal breaker, actually for the original owner some of the sharing functionality is more convenient than in the past.

jivah1837d ago

Fck that. What good is the xbone to me if i cant get to play on deployment. There is tons of down time there and constant tension that usually gets relieved by playing videogames

badz1491837d ago

WORST GAMING PLATFORM EVER!

Bigpappy1837d ago

Here is where I stand. I have been reading a lot about this whole use game thing and the rights of the buyer. I hate to get into these conversations where everyone is just hot headed and they don't care to hear each other out.

I would prefer for the use game thing to stay as it is so we can trade or sell or rent or disk. The reality is the digital download world is how things will work going forward.

What M$ is offering now is actually better sharing than we have on 'Steam' or any other download service.

What I am hoping for is a reasonable agreement between the publishers, the retail and us (the gamers)so we can continue our ecosystem even with the Digital Distribution.

What publisher need to be mindful of, is that if the customer looses that sense of tangible ownership, some my start to question the $60 asking price for big name games.

But yea. Most of what we play going forward will be DD games.

Sorry if that offends any one, but I can only write what is in my mind, not yours. So you just have to get over it I guess.

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Tatsuya 1837d ago

there's nothing good about this at all when the overall scale is tipping to the bad stuffs. I really want SONY to take the crown but I never wanted Microsoft to die. Unfortunately, they have now dug their own grave.

fuzzyLogix1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Definately agree on the "Confused":
"each game can only be given once"

First time I read it I thought it meant that if I gave a game to a friend, I could transfer the license to them and they would now own the game, but this could only be done once. They could trade it in (MS reset the license for resale) but they couldn't then give it to another friend.

The second time I read it I thought something entirely different. MS are letting you give the game to a friend for a trial period. You still own the game and they can play it until you connect and play it again. You can only lend it to that friend once at which point if they want to carry on playing they would need to buy it. But you can still lend the game to other friends.

No idea which is right if either at all, but just goes to show MS still need to work on their wording.

tigertom531837d ago

maybe if the xbox one is free, then i can be a slave to the console that sounds good..... :)

SolidStoner1837d ago

Xbone sounds like a nightmare for a gamer... Who in the hell would want to sign a pact with that dark demon MS! With all those decisions you have to see that MS is caring only about earning money.. nothing more...

Lone_Man1837d ago

live in the present dude.

loulou1836d ago (Edited 1836d ago )

obviously best buy are in. that was why they said not so long ago that m$ had some great things in store for the future. and i would imagine all the big chains are also.

always on is not a deal breaker for me as both my consoles now are always connected.

all in all, seems ok to me. i can buy and sell games just like before.

if e3 shows a large percentage of games that are not kinect junk. then an xbox 1 will be getting bought this year

DARK WITNESS1836d ago

For once we really need to stick to our words on this and not let MS think we are going to change our mind on this

https://www.change.org/peti...

KarrBOMB1836d ago

Reply to Loulou ^^^

You obviously can't see beyond the present day. So let me clear this up... You can not buy and trade games like you do today. The absolute smallest issue will be time. Every traded or sold game will need to be confirmed, thus meaning the store employees need to access an online database and unregister each game. This means longer lines and more time spent just standing there. But more importantly is the pricing. This whole DRM and licensing is to make sure Devs and Pubs get a cut out of every copy sold, regardless of it being a new copy or old one. That means Gamestop and other retailers will pay a lot less for used games.

Now it's already been established that games will cost around $70 in the next gen platforms. As it sits now, games cost $65 after tax, if you took a game back the day after you purchased it, you would get a $25 trade in value. So any games that you buy and than don't enjoy, you currently lose about $40 right away. Since Gamestop and BestBuy are public companies that are traded on the open market, they're going to do everything they can to make up for lost revenue. This means even less for your trade ins.

So yes you can trade in and sell your games as always, they're just going to cost more and give less in trade in value even though they're on newer platforms and are technically more valueable. So by all means Loulou, buy MS's new machine and enjoy getting bent over since you seem to want it so bad.

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Christopher1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

***We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers.***

So, it's up to the publisher if you can trade it in. And, it's also limited to participating retailers, which means you can only sell your games to a retailer. No eBay and likely no to most Mom & Pop stores.

***There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.***

So, the second-hand portion ends with the second person to own the game. And, you can only give it to people you know and is likely done all digitally, not through the disc (you would select a friend from your Xbox friends list to give the game to).

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Now, what happens if someone's Xbox ID gets banned with this new system? Will they lose access to all non-disc based games as well as the ability to give them away? Will people still be able to play games on a console that they own/play games from on their Xbone?

Godmars2901837d ago

Here's an idea to help explain everything: Bang something hard against your head.

Seriously, how does MS expect people to keep all this crap in mind?

kneon1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Not only are there limitations in lending and selling games but it would seem that giving away a game isn't even possible.

EDIT

Found a line saying that giving away games will be possible for Microsoft published games, but other publishers may or may not support this.

MikeMyers1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

If you get banned I imagine you're screwed. Maybe this will teach people to act civil. Either way I imagine there is going to be some disgruntled gamers out there who think they should be allowed to conduct themselves the way they want online. Microsoft will have to give out warnings or temp. bans unless it is something very serious they can prove which will be easier now that it's always recording for a set duration. Hacking and playing pirated games will be an instant ban and the Xbox 360 had quite a bevy of piracy.

Still, some more questions now pop up.

1. "Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends."

Does this mean your game on the hard drive becomes obsolete or can you still play even though you gave the disc away? This is probably a counter measure of why you need to check in online every 24 hours.

2. "We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers."

Will they provide a list of retailers and how will this work in each country? Say goodbye to E-Bay and Craigslist.

3. "Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One."

So they all must have the same last name or will people just put friends on and will you be able to play the same game at the same time?

Christopher1837d ago

***If you get banned I imagine you're screwed. Maybe this will teach people to act civil.***

The problem is that there have been false bans in the past. With a system so integrated, they need a better system. And, even now, with a ban, it doesn't prevent you from playing any of your offline game content. But, if all content requires a daily check to confirm, will this be the same?

MrBeatdown1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

@MikeMyers

1 and 3 would be unnecessarily ripe for exploitation depending on how it's done.

I highly doubt you'd still be able to play a game after giving it away. Otherwise there's nothing stopping friends from buying one copy and getting two licenses.

And I doubt all ten people could play a game simultaneously. A family would likely be considered those accounts that register the same Xbox as the primary console, so any friends that don't use your system are basically restricted to playing while online on their own systems at home. The fact that you need to be signed in on any console other than your primary one gives Microsoft an easy opportunity to keep it to one player at a time, or two at the most, if the primary console is offline.

MS said "ANY ONE of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time" as opposed to "all" or just leaving "any one" out entirely so that could mean that only one person at a time (excluding the purchasing account) can access the shared games. Not just one person per game, but the entire shared list as a whole.

solidjun51837d ago

"if you get banned I imagine you're screwed. Maybe this will teach people to act civil."

Not surprised you would find anyway to spin this. There have been people banned for no reason. Civility - while I can understand can be an issue while playing online- is not the issue here. Well, I guess to each their own.

JokesOnYou1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

@cgoodno
"Now, what happens if someone's Xbox ID gets banned with this new system? Will they lose access to all non-disc based games as well as the ability to give them away? Will people still be able to play games on a console that they own/play games from on their Xbone?"

-uhm so if you get banned now on the 360 then you aren't allowed to play online(multiplayer), you can still sign in, play games, get achievements etc so I don't see why the X1 will not treat you the same, I mean why do you assume that with the X1/Microsoft simply couldn't strip you of the ability to play online via your ID (like always) while still allowing you to play offline(like always), I mean why wouldn't they? I don't see why digitally downloaded games still wouldn't work the same; if you broke the rules of XBL you get banned from multiplayer, but of course you can log on and play by yourself (like always). There is nothing in any of these new policies that seems to suggest otherwise. Banning which btw isn't very common as some imply is less than 1 percent of all users http://www.shacknews.com/ar...
and I don't see why you wouldn't still have the ability to play offline.
http://www.oxm.co.uk/18847/...
http://www.thetechgame.com/...

Piracy on the other hand is a different matter, but if you're stealing you deserve to be banned, if you are one of the very very few who just unknowlingly bought a previously modded console or whatever then there is action you can take to fix the situation with micro.
http://support.xbox.com/en-...

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whoyouwit041837d ago

the only rumor that was true was 24 hour check in, which I agree is stupid, but wont stop me from buying one. You can share your games with friends and family no charge, but it doesn't matter what microsoft came up with you sony fans will dog it.

T21837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

damn right, people should dog it. I have a 360 but I'm not buying this p.o.s. you can only share with one friend, only sell at specific retailers, for a specific fee that the developers choose? required check in? required kinect b.s.?
That would be a big PASS from here, F U microsoft.

edit - so they just eliminated every gamer who doesn't have internet, or solid connections, and what about XBL fee? any chance that goes away? HELL no, MS is the king of nickel and dime, bend over gamers, MS got a present for you.

dedicatedtogamers1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Wait, excuse me?

- rumor that you can't loan, borrow, or rent games? TRUE
- rumor that MS controls how you can or cannot trade games? KINDA TRUE
- rumor that games are tied to your account? TRUE

Honestly, the 24-hour check-in should be enough to scare anyone away from this thing. But it sure is funny seeing the virals rush to blame "Sony fans" as if they're the only gamers in the world who dislike what MS is doing.

TKCMuzzer1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Strange conclusion. You could also say "no matter what Microsoft come up with Xbox fans will put a good spin on it".

Microsoft screwed up, had no idea how to answer all questions and have gone away and have now tried to spin positive on certain subjects. I would not be surprised if Microsoft did originally have a fee for second hand games but due to the reaction of fans dropped it before announcing it. I even got an email from Microsoft announcing the XBox one is all about games. PR damage control leading into E3.
They should just apologise and say they are listening to their fans, simple as. (even though it looks like their doing the opposite)

HammadTheBeast1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

You can't share, you can only give to a friend once, and its his to keep from then on.

You can also only play games at a friends house for one hour lol.

No matter what happens, people like you will spin this positively. Enjoy having your rights taken.

JokesOnYou1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

@dedicated
- rumor that you can't loan, borrow, or rent games? TRUE

-FALSE: "We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games."

- rumor that MS controls how you can or cannot trade games? KINDA TRUE

FALSE, the publisher will decide same as sony has said so far, when they say they will leave it up to publishers, I'm betting they will have a similar policy still: "Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once."

- rumor that games are tied to your account? TRUE

YES TRUE but it can be given away or sold which would deactivate it from your account:
"In our role as a game publisher, Microsoft Studios will enable you to give your games to friends or trade in your Xbox One games at participating retailers. Third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers. Microsoft does not receive any compensation as part of this. In addition, third party publishers can enable you to give games to friends."

24 hr check in is a brief sign in, not a problem for most here given how much we're on n4g. You can play offline after that.

Sykoticz1837d ago

@ whoyouwit04

I have owned so many 360's and one ps3 i was a xbox fan boy. I was still trying to decide which console to get for next gen then i have read all i need to know about the "Xbox one" to decide not to get it because on it i can't

*Take my game to my friends house and play(For example) the next halo co-op with out having to login to my account do all this silly $h!t just to play

*if i move house and im with out internet for a few days what happens? oh yea 24 hour check in

i could say a few other points but i dont really want to waste any more time bagging this thing that has people calling a console.

Garbanjo0011837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Dude I'm a MS fan and i'm very upset about this. This is retarded. The fact is that it is just assumed that a lot of these functions are accepted, they created the new Xbox and basically said "deal with it," or switch. So I'm switching. It's not a matter of MS vs Sony, it's a matter of a gaming console turning into a bunch of nazi's and I don't like it. I don't need a console to come with a disclaimer every 5 minutes or a lawyer attached to it because I supposedly broke conduct with which I "lent a game." It's stupid, I agree with most that publishers need their cut as well of the 2nd hand market, but it's not even so much that they deserve a cut as it is "MS is controlling the 2nd hand market and saying buy from us instead."

I'm just done man, do what you want.

Garbanjo0011837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

I can't wait til E3 and PS drops bombs on MS.

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moparful991837d ago

I'm sorry but as a GAMER I am offended by the course of action Microsoft is taking. There has been writing on the wall the entirety of this generation as to the direction we are headed under them. Microsoft is trying to turn the video games market into a controllable asset for their own profit regardless of the ramifications industry wide.

TO say that anyone opposed to Microsoft's selfish ambitions is a Sony fan is presumptuous on your part and you are feeding into Microsoft's will. If you care anything about our medium and where its headed then you to should be opposed to the XBONE.

Angeljuice1837d ago

Actually you CAN rent games at launch, in fact that's all you can do. You can't buy games (as this would imply ownership), but you can rent them at full retail cost!

Angeljuice1837d ago

The fact is you can rent games from day one, the problem is you can't buy games ever (as that would imply ownership). Basically you can rent games at full market price of a game without having any rights to it unless you have Microsoft's consent.

All this dreamt up in the supposed 'Land of the free'. Aggressive capitalism and perceived freedom are both concepts that Americans hold dear to their hearts (apparently) and yet here they face each other on either side of the battlefield. Those of you that have supported Microsoft's somewhat draconian business practices in the past have helped to spawn a monster, now you must decide to either fight it or let it consume you. Game on!

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Gildarts1837d ago

They did say that some features may be removed depending on the feedback.

I was strongly against the always online thing.

But i have come to accept it.
Even if it wasn't required, i would still have it connected all the time.

Mr_Nuts1837d ago

Knowing them, if we didn't complain after the reveal this would of been much worse

I kind of think they have toned some things down and considering it's still bad I dread to think what it was like before hand

HammadTheBeast1837d ago

That was 2 weeks ago, and now they release this "positive" blog on their part lol.

stylishjerk1837d ago

"Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games."

No wonder Gamestop is not having a bitch fit over this they are probably one of the participating retailers. To bad the consumer cannot chose to sell their purchased disk to whomever they please. I really hope there is an anti-consumer law suit over this. The fact that the game industry thinks they can change the rules is disturbing.

kneon1837d ago

Yes this is actually good for Gamestop since it cuts out any competition from the small guys as well as private selling of used games.

Anon19741837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

On the plus side, Microsoft just saved me probably $400-500.

There's no way that I'm supporting a system that by design will keep me from playing my purchased games unless certain conditions are met. My gaming time is limited as it is. I will not accept restrictions on when and where I play content I've purchased. I'm not so much worried about my internet connection as I am the stability of Microsoft's network and software and suddenly I have another Blu-Ray player and that's it. I spent far too many months this gen with 360 games I was unable to play because something was wrong with my console.

Something always goes wrong, and if history has taught us outside of the US anything, it's that when it comes to features, services and outages, we simply aren't a priority compared to the US.

And that's not even going into the needless restrictions and hoops you have to jump through just to play a used game or the fact you can't even loan a game to a friend or rent a title.

It's about time Microsoft cleared up the confusion. I can see why they were hesitant. They obviously weren't going to be able to block used game sales based on the laws in the EU, but the question was would they attempt to restrict and control.

It's as bad as we all feared.

warewolfSS1837d ago

dude. take off the tinfoil hat.

Anon19741837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Um...I don't think that means what you think that means. Generally, "tinfoil hat" references someone going off on conspiracy theories or something.

I was simply commenting on the facts that have come out from Microsoft's reveal. If you had read the press release, you'd know that.

wampdog291837d ago

@warewolfSS: If you heard the news today about the US government tapping Microsoft's (among others) servers, you would see that no conspiracy theory is too hard to believe....

tuglu_pati1837d ago

All of you complaining need to realize that if Sony also go the download route using Gaikai they'll need to do something similar to prevent multiple people using the same game. Its common sense. You all want this companies to be successful but you dont want them to make money.

This is a common practice and its always been done like that with software. Take photoshop for example if you are using photoshop in a computer linked to a network only that computer can have photoshop open unless you buy lincences for the other computers.

dumahim1837d ago

Sony has already said you will not need to be online as they understand there's a lot of people without access to broadband across the world.

iceman061837d ago

What you are missing is that there is still a choice of physical media vs. digital. The general thought around Gaikai is that it will be the means to obtain some sort of "backward compatibility" and supply/support new games via the cloud. Currently, the cloud is only really used for save backups for PS+.

fr0sty1837d ago

@Darth

And by doing so you are sending a clear message to companies like Microsoft that it is ok for them to restrict us from using software we purchased how we want and that it is ok to require a camera to be connected and listening/watching any time the unit is powered on. By doing so you encourage other companies to follow suit. By doing so you therefore harm the industry as a whole.

dumahim1837d ago

Thank you Microsoft for making my next console choice easy. Seeya!

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dumahim1837d ago

@gamertk421

yeah, ok. Pretend you know me and fabricate stuff.

Gamer-Z1837d ago (Edited 1837d ago )

Did anybody else catch this?

"Third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers."

So basically everything is totally up to the publishers, you have no control over what you do with your copy of the game. Also this contradicts that there wont be a used game fee, maybe MS might not charge you a fee but 3rd party publishers still can.

This is just sickening, i won't support this.

Perjoss1837d ago

My xbox 360 has been connected since the day I bought it on launch, so checking in every 24 hours is not really a problem for me. I also never buy used games so whatever.

I fully understand some people being angry over some of the features of the One but for me, as long as it has games and a few good exclusives like Halo, Forza and Gears then I be buying it on day 1.

And in case anyone cares I game on all systems, currently getting my teeth into Ni No Kuni while I wait for The Last of Us and Animal Crossing to arrive. Totally loving Ni No Kuni, amazing soundtrack, stunning visuals and an interesting combat system.

Game on...

wampdog291837d ago

What about having a camera/mic always watching? You heard the news today that Microsoft's data is being tapped by the US government, right?

MRMagoo1231837d ago

K this is not a fanboy comment at all , but what about everyone else, what about ppl with no internet ? what about ppl that can usually get games but cant afford full price ? what about ppl that rent games they cant even rent games any more ffs ? I can bet you the majority of gamers often rent games before they buy and when they do buy its second hand.