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No, Seriously: Microsoft in GTA IV Panic

Gameplayer are reporting that Microsoft has teamed up with Australian retailer Harvey Norman to offer a GTA IV - Xbox 360 Elite deal which they offer as further proof to back up last week's article on the company's alleged panic regarding the game's effect on console sales. (Grand Theft Auto IV, PS3, Xbox 360)

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sonarus  +   2874d ago
i don't think they are really in a panic but it is safe to say msoft needs GTA4 more than PS3 does and they are acting accordingly
The Wood  +   2874d ago
good point
this is business and MS is doing what they feel they need to do.
LaChance  +   2874d ago
yep.Its as simple as that.
Of course they need GTA4 more than the ps3 needs it.
Tell me any other way to gain some MAJOR market share ?
The only ones talking about "panic" are the people who dont have any knowledge whtsoever when it comes down to selling things rather than yapping about companies panicking because they are doing special offers or whatever.
ATLRoAcH  +   2874d ago
I think GT5 prologue is a factor for panic too because its a Billion Dollar franchise that sells amazingly well and is exclusive.Theres a lot of people who are GT fans that will step up to PS3 for it.Then you counter in GTA IV and even DS3 and thats a good bit of April cash.I do think however that GTA IV will sell more on 360 but I don't think it will push the console sells like they're hoping for.Really I could care less because by the end of April I'll have GT5 prologue, a Dualshock 3, and Grand Theft Auto IV.So I'll be happy anyway. We'll see what happens.
sonarus  +   2874d ago
exactly Atl roach. I don't think GTA4 will be the system seller msoft wants it to be. Don't get me wrong 17mill 360's in the market will give them software sales but the hardware boost won't be as great as msoft wants.
They have been in a slump in EU so ps3 will almost certainly win this region DLC or not. NA will see a boost on both sides but imo(just guessing here really) i see more new gamers buying ps3's over 360's for that next gen GTA4. GT5 and GTA4 will push ps3's especially in the UK.

Only thing that can change this is a price drop on msoft side. This will give them more of an edge in NA. Msoft doesn't really have a big system seller game this yr. Biggest being gears and i doubt that will be as big a system seller as they are hoping for. (Majority of gears fans already own 360's).
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CrazedFiend  +   2874d ago
Ok, Let's see if MS should be in a panic.
Take the poll on the right side of the page.

madestar  +   2874d ago
ps3 needs this one too
i think ps3 needs it more for the win.. it'll be good for them.. i'm gettin' the ps3 version anyways.. i think the control will feel weird on 360.. it's all abou tthe gameplay and feel.. and ps3 fits right
TheSadTruth  +   2874d ago
This is NEWS4GAMERS.COM not EDITORIALS4GAMERS, keep your bullshi* opinions out of news submissions and keep this site clean of fanboy bullshi*
le killer  +   2873d ago
how does sony not need gta?? come on seriously! you people should listen to yourselves! gt and metal gear are'nt gonna shift the 8 million consoles needed to catch microsoft. not by a long shot! gta is super important to both companies, and will shift hardware for both platform holders!

how many consoles do you think it would sell if it was still exclusive to sony????????? that's rite, it would sell container loads, and all the little fanboys that dwell on here would be loving it! are sony desperate because they are doing a metal gear pack, or a gt pack? nope ofcourse they're not. they're master business men, and captains of industry. but when microsoft offer a pack with what was once in the top three of sonys strongest third party games. they're desperate, and panacking!! lol
Danja  +   2873d ago
I dont think you understand what the other guys meant when they said Sony doesn't need GTA4 as much as MS does..

MSG4 is a month after GTA4...what other big game does the 360 has...other than GeOW2..which is way in November..? Too Human..Fable 2..?they'll probably turn out great but there not system sellers

The PS3 has GT5p..which will move alot of Hardware especially in EU..already have over 1 mill pre-orders...then MGS4...which will be huge no way around GTA4 is more important for the 360 than it really is for the PS3 this time around....and alot of ppl i know will be getting a PS3 for GTA4 cuz they dont know it's coming out on the 360...
le killer  +   2873d ago
i undertsand perfectly clear mate. metal gear, gt or not, sony needs gta! to try and spin it otherwise is bs.

would people be saying it if it was exclusive to ps3? ofcourse not! it's a massive franchise! and was no doubt responsible for shifting alot of ps2s last gen. and if it was exclusive to either platform, it would be a huge system seller! come on now, this aint devil may cry we're talking about!
Danja  +   2873d ago
ok fair enough point....but no where did anyone say that Sony doesn't need GTA4...just that MS needs GTA4 more than the Sony because it's the only game which can carry the 360 over until summer , where as the PS3 has GT5p + MGS4 + Haze....

So this time around GTA4 isn't as important as GTA3 was for the PS2 sure it will move alot of hardware but as you said it's not exlcusive ne more and alot of ppl will buy a PS3 just becuz GTA series is associated with the PS brand...M$ knows that so that puts them in a tough situation to try and convert those ppl....which for the most part they wont...and DLC isn't a big deal as MS is making it out to be cuz both system gets the same game on day one..then after a couple months the 360 gets you think ppl will really care that much for DLC when they have GeOW2 to look forward on the 360...?
le killer  +   2873d ago
i see where you are coming from mate. but imo there's only two real ps3 sellers this year, and that's gt and metal gear. i don't think anything else has the appeal to shift hardware! sony should be bothered by gta, and not rest on it's laurels(and they're not taking any chances, by doing a bundle for both mgs and gt, they're trying their hardest to shirt consoles!), because as i said in an earlier post, combined mgs and gt still are'nt gonna shift the 8 mil needed to catch up!

will dlc content sway people?? i can't answer that, and am not sure myself! i think a determining factor will be how it's marketed from here on in.

now microsoft has pretty much established itself, loads of games, and a great on-line service. it now has price on it's side to boot. sony should be doing everything possible to close the gap. because i think microsft has those things (software library, live and price) which will help maintain a healthy lead over sony....for a good year atleast!
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Danja  +   2873d ago
well I think GT5p will push alot of PS3 hardware expecially in EU.

MGS4 well thats already a given system seller

and I think ppl are forgetting about LBP..not saying it's a system seller but it could turn out to be one

but GTA4 alone wont help the 360 to stay ahead of the PS3 for another year and yes MS currently has the bigger game library but they need to have a diverse game library that can appeal to everyone which they dont really have at this point..and Sony will not just sit back and let MS have a price advantage I say around MGS4 or GTA4 release they'll probably slash $50 off the PS3 or sumthing ...either way i'll be enjoying GTA4....
le killer  +   2873d ago
diverse??? what and the ps3 has? just look at the ps3s games... they're all fps/tps/action/sports sims and driving games...with the exception of ratchet and clank the only platformer! both systems off the same thing. except there' more rpg's and rts games on the 360.

the ps3 offers nothing more to a gamer other than it's exclusives! i'm not mentioning blu-ray because it's not a game, and we're not discussing video playback!
Danja  +   2873d ago
hmm someone;s getting a lil defensive..I dont see where in my post did I mentuion about the PS3 having a more diverse software library over the 360...??

The 360 does not appeal to CASUALS...look at the sales of "Arcade'..yeah the 360 has more JRPG's 'For Now'..but there not selling that well on the system besides they dont have that FF punch to it so the masses dont catch on..

ne who GTA4 will help the PS3 more than it will the 360..and I wouldn't be surprised if the next GTA game is a timed exclusive for the PS3...
The Killer  +   2873d ago
360 is not cheaper than ps3 if u buy the premium model
even if u buy the arcade its still more expansive than ps3 if u consider 3 years of XBOX LIVE!!

i think sony dont need a price cut, bundles will help sales a lot, or 50$ price drop wont hurt too much and will help sales in this spring/summer!
power of Green  +   2874d ago
MSFT is known to market the sh8t out of blockbusters lol. Sure they wan't to grab some PS folks. We'll see Alan Wake gum, Too Human socks, Gow 2 underwear.

I think anti MSFT people will spin anything at this point.
MrWonderful  +   2874d ago
yeah they are in their office in a panic because they know that many will buy a 40gb ps3 for this.

Denges  +   2874d ago
wow you talk alot....

are you this angry is real life?

think someone needs a hug!

/hugs POG
power of Green  +   2874d ago
As if MSFT isn't going to be speaking to the hardcore casual trend GTA fans, I don't think MSFT thinks they'll win over hardcore PS3 fanboys just the casual gamers that happen to be hardcore GTA fans.

Many PS2 owners are not people like you they're the same folks buying the Wii they're trend casual consumers.

PS3 would be finished if MSFT drops the price in the US.
pwnmaster3000  +   2874d ago
enough with that ps3 would over in america if micro drop the price. what well happen if sony dropped the price of the ps3 in europe and japan tell me then what well happen to your mighty 360 and please hella xbot were like ps3 is dead in europe now with the price cut, but look what happen
ruibing  +   2874d ago
If you're point is that MS has a very solid marketing division, then I agree with you. Sony is improving in that area; we'll see Sony's marketing in full gear near the end of May.
power of Green  +   2874d ago
Hope you folks are dissagreeing with the last part of my post. MSFT is going to market the sh*t out of the game regardless of PS3. They do this knowing they can make a killing on highly anticipated titles. They do it with every huge title for their platform. MSFT has all kinds of 3rd party underground marketing PS3 fanboys are probably not even aware of.

Look at how rabid you guys are, how can somebody get this kind of response for saying MSFT markets every game thats big" not just GTA!. MSFT turns huge title releases into hollidays thats a fact make all the excuses you wan't. Patcher said Xbox will sell 6 million copies and PS3 will sell 3 million, I doubt Sony will push more consoles considering by the time we get to these numbers the episodic content will be released.
Phil Harrison Mkllll  +   2874d ago
'power of Green'???
'NON-POWER of RED' more like!!! ;-D
Panic!Micro$oft!Your Ship is Sinking!Grab your Lifeboats!
(Cue JAWS Music) ;-D
gambare  +   2874d ago
Power of Pee
It's me or your fanboyism is worse than ever? now you post crap in every story that has something bad against the 360 or something good in favor the PS3

"MSFT turns huge title releases into hollidays thats a fact make all the excuses you wan't"

I mean, holidays in April? damn!
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ATLRoAcH  +   2874d ago
The PS3... strong enough in the rest of the world to stick around until North America picks up on it.
AllroundGamer  +   2874d ago
power of Green
still banned from the Gamer Zone eh? :D cry baby cry...
Homicide  +   2874d ago
Bots: PS3 will be dead when Halo 3 comes out.


Bots: PS3 will be dead Holiday season.


Bots: PS3 will be beaten in EU with the $100 price cut.


Give it up bots.
EVOLVED  +   2874d ago
you had a good run


Fat Bastard  +   2873d ago
Here's a link that some dude in the closed zone or whatever it is posted. Take the poll on the right about GTA4 and see the results of other voters.


75% out of 355 said they were buying the PS3 version. What do you say to that? You all know Alan Wake and Too Human won't push new consoles, cause only us gaming nerds who already own a system know about them. And the Gears fans already have a 360 so Gears 2 may not sell as many consoles as desired. But the GT, MGS, Final Fantasy, and God of War series are loved by 120 million PS2 owners. They will sell consoles cause everyone knows about them. And as a side note, I know a lot of people can get GTA but there are a fair amount under 17 who aren't allowed to have a game where you can do all that stuff.
PStriple703  +   2874d ago
Why are they trying so hard...oh i guess cause there's nothing on there sysem worth playing until nov(GOW2)
Bnet343  +   2874d ago
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Shadow Man  +   2874d ago
Theres more than GOW 2
Bioshock 2
Mass Effect 2
Gears of war 2
Dead or Alive 5
Alan Wake
Fable 2
Ninga Gaiden 2 (Big in Japan)
Banjo Kazooie 3 (Big in Japan)
Tales of Vesperia (Big in Japan)
Infinite Undiscovery (Big in Japan)
Mobile Ops: The One Year War (Big in Japan)
Magna Carta 2 (Big in Japan)
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction
Project Offset
Killer Instinct 3 (rumor)
Lost Planet: Colonies
New Perfect Dark
Supreme Commander
Halo Wars
Left 4 Dead
New Lost Odyssey
Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wrath
Halo: Chronicles
Too Human
The Crossing
Crackdown 2
Prey 2
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
Postal III
Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
Jade Empire 2 (rumor)
MechAssault 3 (rumor)
Age of Pirates: Captain Blood
Voodoo Nights
Project Progressive
Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wrath
Cry On
Dead Island
Demons of Mercy
Dungeon Hero
Shadow Harvest
The Shadow of Aten
Space Chimps
Super Star
Underwater Wars
Versus Tactical Action
White Gold: War in Paradise

and Thank you :P
SUP3R  +   2874d ago
What the hell?!
Shadow Man
you're back with that busted list again?
You still didn't match me the game(s) from the previous post.
heyheyhey  +   2874d ago
oh your back

and look- you've included EVEN more rumored and unconfirmed titles in your list

nicely done my son- but seriously i bet you can't prove to me that these games are in production and that they're exclusivity has been confirmed

heck i bet you could only find proof for 7-9 of them
Shadow Man  +   2874d ago
Yes, I know. This list doesn't match the games from your previous post because my list is better than yours.... except for GT5.

Edit: MAN will you two get of my back! Im trying to have fun here. The same way Sony boys have fun with their RROD jokes.
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ThaToNeKiiDKaBaW  +   2874d ago
Take it to the Open Zone Fanboy..
JasonPC360PS3Wii  +   2874d ago
That list he put up are ether games that are already out or have an actual chance of being released "THIS YEAR", your PS3 list are "maybe's and might be's" that extend to 2010. Now I'm not saying PS3 ain't got no games comming out, I'm just saying once you take all the rumors and maybe's, it gets kinda "limpy". You can count on most if not all Xbox or Games for Windows games to actualy see the light of day.
Amanosenpai  +   2874d ago
WTF with the list... this isn't the open zone
boodybandit  +   2874d ago
Shadow Man
no offense but big in Japan and the 360 go together about as well as peanut butter and mayonaise.
Alcohog  +   2874d ago
No offense Shadow, but that is one sad list to be touting! How much of that is even confirmed for 2008?
nomad117  +   2874d ago
Ya who is up for a game of space chimps.
Jinxstar  +   2873d ago
I am a fan of both consoles Shadow. I have heard of less then half those games.... Totems? Super Star? Underwater Wars? You shouldn't feel the need to list the games. Play what you enjoy man forget what others opinions are. This is a flame bait article. If the list is so long why aren't you playing those titles now if they rock so much? Or the long list of bad ass games the 360 has right now? No need to troll man... Not worth the effort.
DragonKnight  +   2873d ago
You know, taking a look at all the games which you mention in parenthesis that they are "big in Japan"

All I have to say is this.....

Xbox 360 (not big in Japan).

Kind of deflates your list a little bit doesn't it? I mean, not including all the rumours and other B.S. you threw in there.
xbox3shitty  +   2873d ago
@ 2.2
''Ninga Gaiden 2 (Big in Japan)
Banjo Kazooie 3 (Big in Japan)
Tales of Vesperia (Big in Japan)
Infinite Undiscovery (Big in Japan)
Mobile Ops: The One Year War (Big in Japan)
Magna Carta 2 (Big in Japan) ''

did you pull those bigs out of your big butt?!?
General Pinky  +   2874d ago
Why post something like this
No, Seriously: Microsoft in GTA IV Panic

What a bull of shi**
come on...cut this out guys...just because GTA will sell more on the 360 does not mean you need to diss it
sonarus  +   2874d ago
who is "you guys"? Gameplayer are from pro ps3, very very far from it in fact.
boodybandit  +   2874d ago
Selling games isn't what MS is looking for with GTA4 pinky
selling systems is. Now how that will play out will be very interesting to watch.
celticlonewolf  +   2874d ago
This is just marketing
I really dont see the big deal. What if sony offers some good stuff when mg4 comes out does that mean they be in panic?????? Of course not it just making sure you are taking full advantage of the love people have for a huge game. If this news gets approved then I have to say this site is really hitting the down slope with just fanboy cr@p.
SlappingOysters  +   2874d ago
The point is...
The manner of the marketing is the issue. Rockstar must be loving it - they haven't done a thing and are getting plenty of advertising.
pwnmaster3000  +   2874d ago
ahhhh of course they are they need gtaIV micro stupid brain thinks it can beat ps3 with this 1 one game. there desperate. Even the U.K store made the ps3 price higher because they know is gonna sell more on the ps3 and make more prophet

hahahahah look at those xbots Sak and Power reporting this hahahahah they cant handle the truth there in the xbot land were 360 is dominating everything
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captainjy  +   2874d ago
OMG, stop this bs man. This OP is obviously very scared that GTA 4 on the 360 will completely crush the POS3. It's ok man, it's only a freaking video game. Do us all a favor and get a life. Who really cares about Australia?!?!?
RedSoakedSponge  +   2874d ago
They would of done.....
.....a GTA package deal anyway. Microsoft always do, so i dont think its to do with any 'panic' that is being made out.

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Yi-Long  +   2874d ago
Hmmm... dont know if Microsoft is scared...
... but the Elite here in Holland doesnt come with ANY games, so a nice GTA4 bundle would be most welcome, and a reason for me to pick one up.

Anyway, if Microsoft really wants to win the GTA4 battle, they should just announce that the upcoming exclusive DLC for this game will be FREE!

Personally, I'm just gonna wait for the reviews to come in, and buy whichever version is better.
Asurastrike  +   2874d ago
The difference is, Microsoft needs GTAIV, while Sony has Metal Gear Solid 4, Killzone 2, Resistance 2, and Little Big Planet in the next 6 months.
Bnet343  +   2874d ago
They both need GTAIV
and Microsoft has Fable 2, Gears 2, Halo Wars, Ninja Gaiden 2 in the next 6 months? Both systems have good games coming out in the next 6 months, I don't get what you're trying to say.

Yeah of course MS needs it more, but to say Sony doesn't need it is stupid.
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The Wood  +   2874d ago
I get what he's saying
Both 'need' it its just I feel MS needs it a little more. Is that fair?
Whoooop  +   2874d ago
First... MS needs GTA4 more than SONY there's no denying that.

Also Gears 2 will release in late november (I bet 2009, but that's just me) and that's 9 months not 6.

MS knows their games this year are good but not enough to sell HALO or gears amounts and they also know PS3 exclusives are bound to sell great this year, but more than anything else, they know we have real system movers this year and the next.

They are not in panic, but they are close to it. They need anything they can get to sell more consoles and they are trying to achieve it with GTA4.

They couldn't do it last year with BS, ME and HALO. They might have an idea of their sales this year relying on their last year sales with all those great games and it's not going to be pretty.

That's why they seem to be in panic... They NEED GTA4, but I really doubt it will make a difference.
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RecSpec  +   2874d ago

No offense, but none of those 360 games were reasons people bought their 360's, While KZ2 and MGS4 were reasons people bought their PS3s.
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BlackCoffee  +   2874d ago
"The difference is, Microsoft needs GTAIV, while Sony has Metal Gear Solid 4, Killzone 2, Resistance 2, and Little Big Planet in the next 6 months."

Most people seem intent on ignoring Sony's habit of hyping games that are still on the drawing board. Killzone 2 is a great example of what I am referring to here.

Killzone2 is rumoured to be coming out in 2009. LBP remains dateless and although very impressive seems to be a level editor in search of it's game.

Resistance 2 looks very interesting and I will be there on day one buying all of the games you mention.

The Problem I have with your comment is that the only one I think I will be playing in the next six months is MGS4.
sonarus  +   2874d ago
Both games need GTA4 but sony seems very relaxed with the DLC situation. I am pretty sure they have something planned for GTA4 as well. Considering GTA4 will be pushing hardware sales.

I have to say 360 needs it more than ps3 does because they still don't have that "big system seller" for the yr. At least not until gears which will essentially be as much of a system seller for the ps3 as resistance 2 will be.

Msoft is loosing their lead and supply issues or not they are aware of this. Sony has pulled ahead of msoft and despite msoft price drop, still out selling them in that region. However thy have played the right card with the price drop in EU potentially catching low budget gamers who are willing to settle for the low end 360. I think it is a bit foolish for sony not to respond with a price cut in EU by the time GTA4 releases. But like i said they seem confident so hopefully they have a plan

As for coming soon ps3 games, PS3 still has its heavy weight system seller in MGS4. It won't sell anywhere near halo numbers but it will surely give the ps3 a significant boost for at least a month.
kevoncox  +   2874d ago
Are you serious in thinking that R2 will move as many units as GOW2?
Come on you're taking your pro sony biased to fanboy levels...

I don't believe people are actually thinking that MS is desperate.
GTA will probally be the biggest game of the year. It will sell the most units( 4 mill xbox and 3 mil ps3). Why would Ms not show they have the defacto version? I fSony was doing it all of you and your fledglings would be praising sony for their handling of the situation.

This season i's looking more and more likely that the only Pss games are going to be MGS, R2 and GT pro. A solid line up but not very diverse, It sounds alot like the 360 lineup from last year.

I think Ms has a much better lineup this year. I know people like you don't realize that fable is a great Rpg( over hyped but still great),
too human got nothing but praise, NG2 is going to be better than ever and Halo Wars is going to be another 4 million seller. I didn't even menion GOW2 or L4D Starting March it's going to be a solid year for 360.

I don't even have a 360 and i know that MS has crafted a very good lineup. I think Ms has more content while sony bigger names...

sonarus  +   2873d ago
lol just wait and see. I am not talking about software sales i am talking about hardware sales. The longer the consoles stay in the market the less impact solid games will have on hardware sales. Msoft can market the sh!t out of gears but at the end of the day i don't see it moving more than resistance 2.

Resistance 2 has a lot going for it as of right now in most people's minds at least it is still the top candidate for shooter of the yr. It still has 60 player online and 8 player coop. That is a lot of value for a game. Gears fans i.e. ppl who bought 360's for gears will buy it as well as a couple of others resistance fans i.e. ppl who bought ps3 for resistance will buy it as well as a couple of others.

Gears may be a lot more popular but to be honest, i will be surprised if it matches the success of the original unless i see something fantastic. The unreal engine does not hold up like it did 2 yrs ago. Toe to toe gears will be standing against killzone 2 and resistance 2 so gears will not just walk away like it did last time.
zypher  +   2874d ago
am i the only one who noticed the $700 price for the Elite 360. i could be wrong (i have a Pro 360), but doesn't the Elite 360 cost something like $480? thats like an additional $200 just for GTA IV. even if it was the Special Edition GTA IV with the duffle bag, it still wouldn't add up to $700. there must be something else to this offer.
Bnet343  +   2874d ago
It's aussie dollars yo
zypher  +   2874d ago
yeah. my bad. i just noticed that. didn't know Australian gamers were paying such a premium for systems.
InYourMom  +   2874d ago
The only panic going on
is this site trying to get hit's and thus the reason they are sticking with their sensational headline.

MS already has 50mil. invested in this game and they want to make sure that they advertise it good nothing "panic" about it.
power of Green  +   2874d ago
Each and every day you see them get more nervous getting more and more rabid and out of control as GTA nears.
SlappingOysters  +   2874d ago
That makes no sence
If I had 50 million invested in a game and it still didn't look like I would be shipping the majority share of consoles I would be panicing too.

Someone's head will role if this flunks.
Salvadore  +   2874d ago
It's all abot leading people to the right door.
Microsoft are just marketing the title to their advantage, it's not like they have gone to a point where their first priority is to start false propaganda against the PS3 in their marketing. GTA 4 is one of the most anticipated title this year and both companies are fully aware of this and they also know people are still sitting on the fence to join either camp.
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Meus Renaissance  +   2874d ago
Can't people just call it smart?
Ofcourse Microsoft need to try harder with the marketing of the game on the Xbox 360, its no brainer considering the GTA franchise is seemingly associated with the PlayStation platform. This doesn't however mean by any stretch that Microsoft are in panic over this - but instead are making the best business decisions for their platform that they can.

They spent an estimated $10million in advertisement for Halo 3 and some were echoing that this was a desperate move to milk the franchise. But guess what - they made 30 times that amount ($300million) in the first week alone last summer.

The attempt to make peace with one of the largest retailers in Australia seems logical and intelligent if it ensures mass profits for them in the long-term.

You're all making it seem like Microsoft are selling the console and game for $50. Why are people so eager to sanitize them? It suggests insecurity.
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tatotiburon  +   2874d ago
since when good marketing is been in panic??, Microsoft is the king of marketing, see halo 3 in launch day, that was amazing and the results? the biggest selling game of this gen. If Sony doesn't make any marketing around GTAIV doesn't mean that microsoft is in panic.
SlappingOysters  +   2874d ago
but is not good marketting
That was the point of the first article anyway. Good marketing would be doing something to attract the casual user, Bad Marketing is selling the game to an audience that is already converted (by pushing DLC and MPs).

Now they are just marketing in panic offering free stuff to anyone who will sign up.

good marketing my a$$
THC CELL  +   2874d ago
haha u no what i would love

Rock star leeds aka psp and play station loyal dev team to bring out GTA 4 stories just to counter this xbox dlc scam lol i really feel it will happen

Gta 5 will be exclusive to ps3

April 29th till may we will be seen loads of players running out just to by a ps3 and play this game safe cause there x box keeps red lights flicking and crashing and lagging online

Ps3 will win with the Gta series
GTA Born and bread on a sony console and pc
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Bnet343  +   2874d ago
lol GTA was born on Windows FYI
THC CELL  +   2874d ago
u must be dumb i said PC and it came to sony ps1 at the same time!!!!!!!!!!
The Grand Theft Auto series may be divided into canons, based on the inclusion of a numbering after the recognizable title name (e.g. Grand Theft Auto III) after the original Grand Theft Auto's release, and to a certain extent, the type of graphics engine used. For further information on each title, see their respective articles.
Auto III brought the series into a 3D The original Grand Theft Auto.

Grand Theft Auto, the first title in the GTA series was released for DOS, Microsoft Windows and PlayStation in 1997/1998.[4] The game is set in three different fictional cities, Liberty City, Vice City and San Andreas. A reduced Game Boy Color port was later released, and subsequently two expansion packs were offered, set in London.

The second game in the series, Grand Theft Auto 2, was developed for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation and Dreamcast and released in 1999. Set in the indeterminable future,[5] it featured updated graphics and somewhat different gameplay based upon the player's appeal to various criminal organizations. A reduced Game Boy Color port was also produced.

Grand Theft Auto III was released in October 2001. The game's setting takes place in fictional Liberty City, which was based on New York City, around October 2001.[6] Grand Theft Auto III brought a third-person view to the series, rather than the traditional top-down view of earlier titles (although the view is still made available as an optional camera angle). Graphics were also updated with a new 3D game engine. While not the first of its kind, the gameplay engine expanded the explorable world of GTA III, doing away with a traditional game structure where the player faces a "boss" at the end of the level and moves onto a new level, opting instead for more realistic mission-based approach. Multiplayer was discarded (third party mods were later released, allowing for multiplayer gameplay), but GTA III improved in many other areas such as voice-acting and storyline (in previous GTAs, there was speech only in short animated cut scenes between levels, other communication was simply subtitles running on the bottom of the screen). Pop culture also is cemented into GTA III, drawing many aspects and ideas from popular films and shows such as Scarface, Goodfellas, and The Godfather.
Grand Theft Auto III sold very well and became the first blockbuster game in the series, setting the precedent for subsequent GTA titles to be very successful. GTA III also attracted heavy criticism for its violence against police and its indifference to innocent bystanders, making future games in the GTA series synonymous with violence.

After the success of Grand Theft Auto III, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City was released in 2002. This game was set in 1986 in Vice City, which was based on Miami. Vice City was also the first game to introduce fully functional flying vehicles that could be used by the player, such as sea planes and helicopters. Influences for the game included movies such as Scarface, Carlito's Way and the TV series Miami Vice.[citation needed] In fact, the entire basic storyline of the game is an homage to Scarface, including the climactic gun-fight in the main character's mansion at the end.[citation needed]

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, released in October 2004, had its setting in the early '90s, focusing on California gang life and the awakening of the drug epidemic brought on by crack cocaine. The setting was in the fictional state of San Andreas, which was based on some California and Nevada cities, specifically Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Las Vegas.

San Andreas also attracted controversy when a sex minigame that was cut from the game, but remained in the game code, was discovered in both the console and PC versions of the game. Dubbed the Hot Coffee mod, the minigame allowed players to have sex with the players girlfriends in the game. As a result, GTA: San Andreas was pulled from a number of retail outlets and was re-rated from "M" (Mature) to "AO" (Adults Only) by the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB); the first game in the series to be given an AO rating. Rockstar has since released an edited version of the game for the PC, Xbox, and PlayStation 2, and has reclaimed the "M" rating.

Grand Theft Auto Advance was also released in 2004. Originally developed to be a top-down conversion of GTA III for the Game Boy Advance, it ended up becoming its own completely original adventure, set roughly a year before Grand Theft Auto III[citation needed]. Unlike the Game Boy ports of I and II, Grand Theft Auto Advance did not tone down the excessive violence and adult dialog common to the GTA series. The game received an "M" rating from the ESRB.

In 2005 and 2006, Rockstar released two games for the PlayStation Portable: Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories and Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories respectively. Liberty City Stories is a GTA III prequel set in 1998's Liberty City. A PlayStation 2 port was released by Rockstar on June 6, 2006. Vice City Stories was released on October 31, 2006 and set in 1984 Vice City, two years before the events in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. A PlayStation 2 port was released for this game on March 6, 2007.
ReBurn  +   2874d ago
Why do people always assume that Microsoft is in a panic?
Meus Renaissance  +   2874d ago
How'd you get 10 Bubbles so damn quickly? :D

Welcome to the gentlemen's club.
Whoooop  +   2874d ago
Just like people assumed the PS3 was a failure.

ReBurn  +   2874d ago
Yeah, I know what you mean about Sony. I have to admit that until the 40gb came along I was having my doubts about the PS3, even though I own a 60gb model.

But honestly, Microsoft shouldn't be in a panic. The 360 has been on the market for nearly 2 and a half years, so a price drop or heavy promotion isn't a sign of weakness as much as it is a sign of age.

At least that's how I feel about it.
actas123  +   2874d ago
Panic... no, good and aggressive marketing.. yes. I tell ya Sony is gotta do some ads for this game as well otherwise they'll lose lots of customers.
SUP3R  +   2874d ago
The thought ran through my head today.
I haven't seen any serious game marketing since Uncharted was released.
GT5:P is almost upon us and there is still not a peep coming from Sony.

The thing about it is, if Sony were to do advertising for GTAIV they wouldn't need to do half of the crazy marketing as Microsoft.
Just stating something simple like, "GTA4 better on Blu-Ray" and that's it. It's so effective I just typed it and I'm like "damn it really does sound better" lol.

I guess they're waiting til' GT5:P is almost ready for launch before they start their ad campaign.
Shaka2K6  +   2874d ago
microsucks thinks GTA4 is gonna pull them out of the guther.
LMAO some stupid dlc nobody cares about aint gonna prevent PS3 from destroying the 3fxime all year long.

GTA4 best on PS3 confirmed already by ign to have better graphics thanks to the most powerfull GPU in the world RSX, faster load times thanks to Blu-ray and HDD in every PS3 and superior gameplay thanks to the most comfortable controler in the history of gaming.

the fact is GTA is a Sony PS franchise, its gonna sell millions of PS3s around the world amd without a doubt totally outsell the inferior xbug 3fixme version.
Covenant  +   2874d ago
I don't think they're in "panic mode" over GTAIV...but don't be surprised if they cut the price of the system in North America before the game launches.

A cheaper console, coupled with exclusive content, could give them the edge. This is the first time that a GTA game--a franchise traditionally associated with Playstation systems--has launched day and date on a Xbox console alongside the PS version.

Making sure that people know that, along with giving them an incentive to choose the 360 over the PS3 has to be a high priority for them.
meepmoopmeep  +   2874d ago
it's not panic. they're just getting a bundle out. but it's true that ms is has put a LOT of eggs in the GTA basket.
Angelitos  +   2874d ago
True Experience?
What I dont understand, is that MS sais that the true experience is on the 360 version. The extra content is just going to be side missions, how is that the true experience? It doesm't affect at all, to complete the game.
Goodfella78  +   2874d ago
No, Seriously: Microsoft in GTA IV Panic
So they should be,most of the gta series go together with sony consoles like,eggs n ham,or cheese n onion,and jam n bread,also cheech and chong.peace out.....
Whoooop  +   2874d ago

all the same year, all 90+ average and STILL, couldn't outsell the PS3..

What do you think a multiplatform game will do??... a game which was practically made by the Playstation brand.

Really.. what do you guys think this game will do for the 360??
Bill Gates  +   2874d ago
Today I understood why MS is in a panic. Three of my friends purchased PS3's today because they caught wind that the new GTA4 was coming out next month, and since immediately associate the series with the PS brand than they knew which system they were getting.

Sucked for me as I had to go to each one of their homes and help them set it up. I'm a tech noob, but they're much worse.
CaliGamer  +   2874d ago
Off course MS needs GTA4.....
MGS4 comes out right after this for the PS3, so I think MS wants to shore up some business before that happens. Perhaps by having incentives they might get those people who are not HardCore.

MGS4 will be crazy and MS knows it, this is the only huge game coming out on their system in the next few months so they must feel like they have to milk this one for all it's worth. We'll see how they do I guess.
iamtehpwn  +   2874d ago
Microsoft is so scared of PS3 dominating them that they spending like crazy. The Fact is, PS3 will over take 360 by 2009 when it hits $299, and MGS4 and FFXIII hit.
kevoncox  +   2874d ago
Great the 360 would only be 4 years old and the genration will be half over for the ps3! Congrats! Party Sony party!
Cupid_Viper_3  +   2874d ago
the generation will be half over for the ps3????? get a grip man
you're funny man, i gotta give you that. begining of 09 ms will consider themselves really lucky if they reach 26 million units sold, and that is just matching their previous install base.

secondly, don't fool yourself with such wishfull thinking, when the ps2 is outselling the ps3, and especially the 3yr old 360 in its own territory, it translate to 1 of 2 things ONLY.
1) the so called "next gen" haven't started yet, or more reasonably in its very begining, (which means that the 360 fail to start it, since they were first).
2) or based on your logic, it will really be half over for the 360,and not the ps3. want proof? ok, tell me what console out there, from ps2, ps3, wii that didn't outsell the 360 in 2007? exactly my friend......

i mean, the investors and developers and big names out there look at charts and trends. and to someone with knowledge in the industry, they know that based on trends and figures the 360 will surpass it, but by a questionable margin, and given that you had a year headstart, that doesn't really strike them as UNTAPPED POTENTIAL, it comes squarrely as POTENTIAL MATCHED and SLOW GROWTH from there on.

now if the ps3 does the same as the 360, the same can be said, and the industry will look at it as such that next gen hasn't really started or is still in its infancy. But if the ps3 matches its sales for the previous year, and even surpasses it, then you're left with one conclusion, the 360 has simply fail to reach beyond its previous fanbase. and that my friend, is what ms is really fighting with gta, the game can potentially be for the 360 what WB was for HD DVD, a fatal wound, and to somehow sit here and assume that ms is not NERVOUS in the LEAST is just pure IGNORANCE from some of you, so i dont blame ya'll.

i mean $50 million, is what we know, what we dont know is why or how much did it take to get GTA to go multiplat in the first place.... GET IT?
Clinton514  +   2874d ago
You know...
GTA IV is huge but I don't think it'll be a deciding factor for PS3 or 360 in the final outcome of the "console war".

It's a little obvious that it'll sell more on the 360 simply because of the install base. I feel MS is throwing too much into the game expecting it to do what people claim it did for the PS2. It's multiplatform this time and won't sway anyone either way. DLC is for the hardcore and casuals don't even care and possibly don't even know about it.

Just like last generation, there's much more than one game that determines the outcome.
demolitionX  +   2874d ago
but but but halo, mass... mass effect, bio...bioshock! POOR M$!
JasonPC360PS3Wii  +   2874d ago
With all the articles that keep popping up like this, it's becoming more and more obvious that it's the Sony side that's realy in a panic. Every week we see somthing on the Sony side with some sort of rebuttal to the DLC that MS has on the 360. Most of all the ads you see and all the hype is more on the 360 side. Sony knows this and so does it's hardcore, thats why they are spending so much time debunking everything surrounding the 360 and it's $50 million in game sized DLC.
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Clinton514  +   2874d ago
That makes absolutely no sense
Since when do a bunch of random internet fankids represent companies? And who exactly is trying to debunk what? MS spent an assload of money and there's nothing to debate about there.
JasonPC360PS3Wii  +   2874d ago
Do you realy think people don't read these articles or comments?
Don't tell me, tell that to the "panicked" that wrote this article and the 400 others like it, and tell that to all those who comment here and over at Joystiq, Kotaku, Destructoid, or Gametrailers. 360 owners are grinning from ear to ear witgh the GTA4 content they get, it's the PS3 owners who are bitter because they think GTA is a Playstation brand that they lost. You win some you lose some, you won Haze but we gained DMC4 and GTA4.
Clinton514  +   2874d ago
I didn't win or lose anything
I'm a gamer. A gamer who owns and plays on all platforms.

Now ask me about preference and I'll tell you what I PREFER.

ps. Are you insinuating that Sony is writing these articles, because that would be funny.
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JasonPC360PS3Wii  +   2874d ago
I'm not "insinuating" anything
But many of these articles that come have a clear bias and you know it. Not to mention little mags out there names PSM and OXM that get those paychecks for the system they write for. What do you realy think every article or bit of news is writen by a unbiased source with no agenda? thats a bit nieve don't you think? Is Sony in a panic? absolutly they are, because they lost one of the biggest exclusive titles in any console generation and... the competition has $50 million in game sized content that Sony "doesn't".
CaliGamer  +   2874d ago
I hate to burst your bubble Jason...
But this site isn't that important, as a matter of fact the discussions on this site are only important to the few people that frequent this sorts of thing and we aren't representative of the general population.

I can also tell that you didn't read the whole article and just went into defense mode because at the end it clearly shows the person that wrote this article isn't a "SONY FANATIC". He clearly refers to Sony displaying it's "old arrogance" in the face of MS's push to sell copies of GTA4.

I doubt any Sony fan is panicked right now, it's not like GTA4 is a 360 exclusive, now MGS4 comes out right after the GTA4 release, and that is something for the 360 to panic about and MS knows it.

If GTA4 were an exclusive it would be another story but not only do PS3 owners get GTA4, right after they get what is arguably one of the most iconic series in gaming history called MGS4, and all this during the summer which is traditionally a slow time for gaming. That double blow has got to hurt like a kick to the privates followed by a knee to the face. OUCH!
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darkpower  +   2872d ago
"...the 360 and it's $50 million in game sized DLC"?
Well, there's your god damned problem right there.

If you seriously believe THAT, then you'll believe anything Microsoft spewed this year so far.

Again, mentioning that? There's your problem right there.
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