Stuff, "Let's take a look at what we know from the Sony PS4 tease event and the Xbox One reveal. Can we predict a winner this early on?"
The better gaming system will win. We all know which ONE will not
Really? So the Wii was the best gaming system over the PS3 and 360?
the better gaming system is a matter of opinion. the problem is how do you determine the winner? by spes? by sales? by number of exclusive titles?by number of features?by the consoles online services? people who say so and so console is the winner but the winner of what exactly? there is no definitive way to determine the winner that is based on absolute facts; yes you can say that it is a fact that this console has better specs than that one but that doesn't make it a better console the wii did well despite not being the most powerful games console out there. this is one of the many reasons why console wars are silly unless everyone can come to the consensus that productA is better than productB some one will always argue for and against.
PS1 x 4 = PS4 PS2 x 2 = PS4 PS3 + 1 = PS4 Improvement is better than winning.
Yes you can predict a winner. Doesn't mean it will come true. Think of it like a football game. You look at the teams, form, who's injured etc. That being said doesn't guarantee the result but there's nothing wrong with predicting a winner between sony and ms based on each companys ethos, last few e3s, current developments etc. No harm in that....its not like anybodies putting money down. Patcher that kn*b gets paid to predict....this here, is just for fun. Personally I would make my prediction based off the last few e3s.... I don't even need to factor in the so called reveals ...sometimes you can see a trajectory so clearly
Simply stated, there's a reason why it's called a prediction.
Yes PS4 wins because I don't have to pay to play online
The real answer - "NO!"
Agreed. I mean playstation is my main brand. In fact it's my only brand. I've owned every console, and I dont see myself buying an xbox or a wii anytime in the near or distant future but lets get serious. Yea, making fun of the xbone (snickers) is the popular thing to do right now and Sony is enjoying a wave of well deserved media hype, but if people really think Microsoft are just gonna sit down with their thumbs up their arses they're dilusional. Come E3 Microsoft will bring the games. They already said that the unveiling was about the console itself and E3 will be about the games. I fully expect them to show off the goods and win the faith of their fanbase back. Some of them anyway. Meanwhile Sony's having a hard time trying to fit all their announcements in to one presentation.
MS already indicated it will be all about games at E3. "I[major nelson] can confirm that we will have TV's (or similar) on stage to show the games.That should be the extend of TV talk in your #E3" https://twitter.com/majorne... I'm actually saddened by that, because I wanted to know a little more about their TV aspirations, and how it is really going to work. There is still a lot of detail lacking there. More information about Kinect would be nice, but I'm assuming there will be games. So I wish their presentation was longer!
It doesnt matter how many games MS announce they cant make up for the BS stuff that comes with the console, connecting once every 24 hours if they dont scrap that they will lose a lot of sales, and if they do charge a fee for second hand games they will lose a lot for sales for that too. There is no road back unless they remove these negetives and even then the focus on TV and the lower specs of the console makes ps4 winner by default.
No we cant. Its not going to stop us trying though.
How can we when we haven't even seen the games? We can only make an assessment on which one stands a better chance of 'winning'. Also, how do we define winning? Sales? The games? Popularity? Its simply too early. The next generation hasn't even started yet.
We can't pick a winner because we don't know how receptive the market will be to either one or how the market has changed over the years. The Wii U failed to meet expectations, so did the Playstation Vita. So how can anyone predict the success of the PS4 or Xbox One? Will the recession play a role and what price will these systems be? Are people looking for a pure gaming device or a more entertainment box? Will people actually care at the end of the day over some of the controversial things Microsoft is apparently doing? What exclusives will each offer? What will be the real line-up of games? Will Kinect 2 play a role and will Sony utilize it's new camera more than they did in the past with the Eye? Which will 3rd party publishers support more? Who will have the better online experience and will cloud gaming have an impact? There are many questions still left unanswered but it won't stop some from picking a winner. I imagine some actually picked a winner many months ago.
We can pick a winner with NO information at all. Doesn't mean we'll be right. On the other hand, that doesn't mean we'll be wrong, either. And it's not like we're flying completely blind, here. We do know specs, each company's past policies, their current actions, and what their near future focuses will be. And some of us can make informed guesses about the price, the market reception at launch, and so on. There is no exact science to speculating, guessing, predicting, or anything else you wanna call it. So people can base their choice off whatever they want. Does not knowing what will happen to a team in the future stop anyone in Las Vegas from predicting who'll win the Super Bowl? Edit: Unless by "pick," you mean "know," then you are wrong. We cannot KNOW who will win. But we still don't KNOW whether or not the PS3 will overtake the Wii. That level of certainty doesn't exist in any sort of market. But we CAN PICK who we think will win, and we have enough information available so that doing so wouldn't just be a wild shot in the dark. So either you didn't say what you meant(knowing instead of picking), or you're just flat-out wrong.
I said you can't pick a winner this early, you are suggesting we can try and pick a winner. Big difference.
......there was me thinking the point of the article was about predicting a winner. . . oh well back to comprehensive school for eyeski
If Microsoft continues with its current trend. The PS4 is a clear winner.
Well said. Who can disagree with this perfect logic?
We don't know how the consumer will react. Things change and it is possible that the ONE may be made out to be the better of the two (media), plus may have better sales. Also define "win". Still we lack information, and even with that information basing beliefs on statistics isn't absolution.
Xbots who know no logic and will go with whatever Microsoft shoves down their throats. When all the negative DRM features were unveiled for the system, they were either complacent in the matter or hoped that the ps4 had the same features so they weren't the only ones getting screwed. Meanwhile, Playstation fans cared enough to voice their opinion on the matter and start a twitter campaign to persuade the higher ups at the Sony to not go that route, which in turn could help get rid of the features on One due to consumer pressure.
Haha.sorry guys..entertainment is ruling the world sadly..hardcore gaming are at the bottom when it comes to sales..unfortunately Xbox one will win hands down(sell more) Now look at how many disagreements this is gonna get :)
Ahh Ok we'll listen to you due to you obviously being an expert in sales and marketing, any-more useless tips?
Oh yeah gaming is definetely at the bottom when speaking about VIDEOGAME consoles and mainstream consumers will ditch their smartphones, tablets, Smart TVs and PCs to get a console.
according to you..you're always right..ok mr. know-it-all
The only reason why the Wii was so popular because of its low price, if a company tries to get causal gaming first all the bells and whistles must be stripped. If a company goes hardcore first, the casual audience can come in latter in the console's cycle. On top of that, causal gamers generally don't follow gaming, so this can hinder video game sales. The Wii sold the most consoles, but had about the same or less video game sales as apposed to the number of consoles sold. Big install base, low video game sales when compared to the install base. It's like having fifty people in a bar/club, you made money with entry fees but next to nothing on product.
You express your opinion in a very know-it-all way, then call someone else a know-it-all when they disagree with you... Interesting.
another sony fanboy coming to the aid of another. how nice
How did I defend them? lol I didn't say you were wrong or they were right. I just pointed out that you calling them a know-it-all was pretty ironic.
yeh guys noone buys gaming consoles for gaming these days derppppp, its all about media thats why WOW have 8 million plus subs cos noone likes games anymore /s You could possibly be the thickest person i have seen comment on N4G golding89
The versus articles always make me lol beause they usually don't include Nintendo like wiiU isn't apart of next gen at all.
I know it's just about stupid, wii u is next gen.
True. It will be the least expensive next gen console and people are understimating the effect that simple fact might have on overall sales.
It isn't. It's just there. The fact that the Wii U "the next gen system" came out so early as appose to coming along side the PS4/Xbox One really confuses me on this, IMO.
It's actually current gen: sharing some games with current gen consoles, and no next gen games were announced for the WiiU so far. People mistake it for an early next gen console where it's infact a very late current gen console.
Current gen tech. Next gen console by age. 8th gen gaming look it up wiiU is part of next gen by definition. Define next gen game for me. ACIV and watch dogs are coming to current and next gen systems. Are they next gen games?
@DEATHxTHExKIDx I don't consider ACIV and Watch Dogs as next gen games, just overlapping gen games - like many games at the beginning of this generation. This is of course unless the next gen games are running on a completely different engine (we've had examples of those before). Now, I know that the WiiU is classified as a next gen console on wikipedia, but Wikipedia itself doesn't have a proper and clear distinction: For example, the Atari 7800 is considered 3rd gen while the Turbographix is classified as 4th gen - but both consoles came a year apart. So why is that? In the past, you could see a 4X to 10X increase in performance between generations. But the WiiU is 2X increase tops in some areas compared to the 7th generation, and actually weaker in other ares. I know that it's obviously a generation ahead from the original Wii -But that's where the actual problem lies: the Wii itself was never a 7th generation console to begin with. tech-wise it's an supercharged Gamecube with an innovative new interface, and probably shares more games in common with the PS2 then it does with the X360 and PS3. Do you agree with this notion? Because you just mentioned that ACIV and Watch Dogs are coming to current gen consoles - yet neither is making it to the original Wii. If we properly classify the Wii as a late-coming 6th generation console, it puts the WiiU in a proper perspective. Nintendo are dancing to their own rhythm.
lol, we can't determine anything until both consoles life span is over.
Sony will be broke before the end of this gen.
Xbox, bring me more Haterade. OT - We can predict a winner, but that pick won't be based on enough info. We'll know more after E3, assuming both consoles get release dates and prices, but it won't be until they release and sales data adds up for while that we'll really have an educated guess or prediction.
I don't give a damn who wins in terms of consoles sold, I care about who wins in terms of quality of games.
In terms of Content and policy wise Sony have a massive edge but I will say Microsoft are not completely out of the Content competition yet they might just surprise us as long as the games they show are not FPSs or kinect enabled because Microsoft already has more than enough exclusive FPS games they need more variety back. If Microsoft reconsidered there ridiculous polices especially kinect been required to use the system then they will have more of a chance. Also Software wise Microsoft have an edge.
PS4 will due to MS giving SONY an even bigger chunk of the global market to them by designing an 'merica box.
Which sensible gamer in other parts of the world will get a game apart from PS4? PS4 is the clear undisputed winner. Why u say? Helloo I don't need an internet connection to get started
Yeah. Tens of millions of 360 sales won't translate to One sales because of that online requirement. It's the biggest mistake in a series of mistakes.
That and the lack of BC leads to many 360 gamers flocking over I think. There is no incentive, other than Halo, to buy a One.
Shit i forgot about the always on connection dammit that gives Sony the edge big time. Not everyone has internet or a good connection all the time!
clear cut winner NOW.. no give it like 3 years..maybe 5 if its as same last gen..
PlayStation 4 will win!
Odds are in Sony's favor if you look at it objectively. Even with the year (year and a half in Europe) headstart 360 had and the advantage of always being cheaper, with massive advertising AND tip toeing over Sony's constant blunders early on, PS3 still outsold 360. Now they're launching at the same time at roughly the same price (with rumors PS4 being cheaper) With the massive, massive industry backlash to the worst console reveal of all time - hundreds of thousands of disappointed fans all saying they've had enough and are going PS4 and Microsoft are somehow supposed to compete this time? lol Xbone will sell out at launch, just like the PS4.They will both sell well into the first fiscal year.After the intial new tech craze wears off i believe you'll see the sales begin to drift apart and PS4 pull ahead more and more each month. The sales gap will be much larger next if i had to guess.But hey, i'll leave it to the you know who group to harp about sales when the time comes.I'll be playing games.
No matter who wins... *looks at shelf of classic games...* ... we all lose.
Whoever buys a PS4 will win because they get the more powerful exclusives and they can borrow their friend's games and play them. They can then return the game to their friend and there will have not been any ownership discrepancy or monetary transaction. Of course we can predict. Whether or not we predict accurately is another matter though.
With all the speculation and negative articles put forward the XBox ONE, it looks like a PS4 win. In a way you can say the XBox ONE is trying to be all things to all it's would-be customers', whereas PS4 is a gaming device but can also do multi-media. We'll see it all anyway at E3 and read/comment more about on the 'net.
Commodore 64 wins!.
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