Forbes - In the long run, the end of used games and brick-and-mortal retailers will be good for gamers and the video game industry.
As games keep getting made they take up more data,currently some games are 50gb,I dont want to download that. I also like having a real collection,I dont want DD to be the future and many others dont either.
Yep, I consider the box, artwork, and (the unfortunately dying) manual as part of a whole package. They're a piece of the game as well. I don't get those things without a physical copy. Not to mention I love seeing my collection.
But don't you have digital downloads already? Don't you use steam? Haven't you downloaded games from Live and Plus? Then you are supporting this movement.
@MikeyDucati1 - I never said I didn't have digital downloads. Just that I prefer buying physical copies instead.
Everyone prefers something else until something new comes along. Once the new thing establishes itself, people soon forget the old thing. There may always be a few holdouts, but most will move on. Plus digital has a lot of advantages over physical. Prices can come down or more likely games will get bigger or better. Hopefully better because they will need to standout more. And BW issues can be fixed in several ways. Early downloads and publishers paying for BW on the purchase. Any IP will look at the number of games being sold and would quickly sign a deal on a batch of downloads. If Sony or MS tells them we will give you 1 dollar or even two on every 25gb+ game downloaded they would jump at it. I actually believe Microsoft should start their own telecom anyway. Buy space from the major player in a given area for pennies on the dollar(the law in the US requires IPs do do that to increase competition). Other countries might have similar laws. They have Skype and they want Windows and Office to be services. They could have their own space for Live, Office, Azure, Windows, Skype and Outlook. They're always looking foe something to spend their saving on and that would be a good investment considering eventually IPs will charge a fee for things like Netflix and other things with high bandwidth demands.
@Snookies12 No that's not what I'm implying. I'm not expressing the most likely cookie cutter forum response, "you have digital downloads in your collection, so your argument is pointless". I'm not saying that but you and I support this movement when we buy digitally. And as those numbers raise, so will the efforts in getting us to solely buy digitally. That's all. My previous post and this one had no ill intent. I just thought that was interesting to point out.
you'll be amazed how some people support digital all the way just cause they believe they own the game forever just as long as the console is still active. Why not continue to have both?
With digital distribution, we will never OWN the games again. They will be rented licenses for a period of time at full price.
@KingKelloggTheWH Well said! for the 2 a&&s who disagree with you can go **** themselves
also our infrastructure isn't up to snuff yet so D/D is not 100% in the cards yet until this country can get it up and running from coast to coast. also i like having physical copies for the box art.
And why the industry will fold and be destroyed if this ever comes to fruition.Not every place has internet,many have a gb limit per month.Not to mention people will only buy games they're familiar with thus closing down many studios that wanna get out their since no one will take a risk and buy an unknown IP.Some of you so called "journalists".Just dont get it do you?
And not everybody owns a credit card. But at least you can buy those points cards for digital downloads retail.
I hope Sony takes some notes on how Valve does digital sales. dont get me wrong there getting there! but i shouldnt pay $60 for a digital copy of a game.
Valve doesn't have to worry about stores selling their stuff. The big problem the hardware companies have is if they upset the stores they might stop selling their consoles and games. That's most likely the reason digital versions of the games cost the same as the disc version. If they could get to where stores don't matter anymore they could drop the price of the games.
So hypothetically speaking, Sony would have to drop physical copies completely for this to happen? seems unfair but i get where the retailers are coming from.
A good solution would be just to sell the box for the game for a small fee like £3 and then pay for the download, then the box could be used as a preowned trade in with the full game being discounted when you register the box to re download
Just to further the box idea, you could trade in the box for no money at all but when it gets scaned at the till it sends a discount of say 25% from a new purchase from the same publisher do they don't lose out. And the preowned box gets a 50% discount when it get re registered. This would increase new sales and encourage brand loyalty
Digital is good but if i have to pay triple...electricity, internet, and game itself..i will still go with physical copy then
It's nice to have a choice though. I've had times where I wanted to buy a certain new game but stores just didn't carry it and Gamestop didn't get it in right away. For those games digital download would be nice. I don't want to download every game though. That could take a huge hard drive.
until the internet is universal and standard as electricity and toilets in homes this will not be the answer.
It's not the answer, but it is a choice. The internet will eventually take over though. And we will be debating if streaming games is the future rather than digital downloads.
A 50 gig download for one game , which is likely the standard for next gen ps4 games , get real. I'd rather have the disc and install from there , or they could have distribution centers where you can take a portable harddrive or usb stick and copy the files at 1Gps lan speed.
If you had Google Fiber and a good wireless card you can download 50GB in about 7 minutes.
Yet Google Fiber (no matter how glorious it may be) is only available in a very limited market. When Fiber (Google or not, gigabit speeds) is available and affordable enough to the mass majority (say 80% of america) then the digital world for gaming can begin. until then I think the Vita has the right answer, most games are released both digitally and physically giving the players a choice.
I'm just sitting on my PC not giving a shit about this because its been this way for a while. For example on steam you can preload the game if you preorder it and play it the second it comes out.
Mark my words, the day used games die for consoles will cause a steady increase in prices. Any price reduction online will be at a snail's pace and there will be nothing consumers will do about because of the monopoly. Just look at the robbery the cable companies are doing because of no competition.....
Digital Distribution is the future. They have been adamant about adding this feature as the standard norm for quite some time. Ask the PC folks about this and they are like, "yea, andddd? Grow up already, we been doing it for years and isn't that bad" Consoles are following in the footsteps of PCs. This is bound to happen. And if Gamestop vanishes...I wouldn't care. I don't shop there anyway.
Look at iTunes and playstation vita. If you have a large memory card dd rules. New games don't have to downloaded all the way to be played, and ps4 and one will play games off the hard drive due to blu ray's slow read speed anyway. Physical media is dying, face it. I agree that a dd game should cost less than full 60.00. Sony is already doing this with vita where games are cheaper, and there are no discs for plus. What is everybody flipping out for?
Vita games arent even comparable in size (5-6gb at most?)to a full PS4 game (lets say around 50gb) meaning the time to download a new game could take days for some people and absolutely inaccessable for many others. Also the portable market is a different beast where DD is more 'wanted' due to the nature of having everything on the system and not having to carry around game cards but a home console doesnt have that issue. I still believe the generation after the PS4, Wii U and Xbox ONE will be on cartdridges again.
DD might be the future but not in our lifetime.
No it will be well within our lifetime just not tomorrow or a year from now like the dd preachers like to think it is. I would say 10-15 yrs reasonably priced for most 1st world countries, no clue on 2nd or third world countries. Total dd sounds impossible or rather not practical. Of course this assumes the major isp providers have their essential monopolys broken up(us at least). @dethpuck physical media isn't going anywhere anytime soon it's too damn convenient for everyone(espically places that don't have flawless cheap internet available). You will see vita like ps5 and xbox(whatever)memory cards long before all digital is commonplace. Just because digital is getting more popular doesn't mean physical is going to be put to pasture anytime soon. Optical media will be for the most part. It's a viable option it will be fully utilized, what is convenient for one might not be practical for another. I don't trade my games in but i would still rather have a physical copy.
Digital distribution is the future...with emphasis on the future.
You owe it to yourself to watch the total biscuit video he mentions if you're concerned about used games.... His argument is on point and certainly goes into depth about the issues surrounding used games sales. Game "UK retailer" for instance train staff to sell used games over new at all costs..... How can retailers that sell used over new games taking money from the developers / publishers be good for the industry? (unless you own that retailer)
I really don't see why so many people that like DD have to put down retail. I mean, if you like DD then go ahead and use it. For those that like retail we can continue to use it, and we're all happy. And the reverse is true. Who care's if it's the future. Right now having the choice between them makes everyone happy. That will be just as true in the future. If one segment may be small in the future(retail), and publishers decide we're not worth catering to, then we will either adopt DD, or bow out. Either way, retail is going to exist for quite a while. Internet infrastructures have a long way to go, and things aren't going to change that drastically in 10 years. Just look at how cable/phone companies are only now just getting up to speed with the broadband age, now imagine the costs of the mega-broadband age.
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