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Submitted by dirigiblebill 428d ago | interview

Xbox One games: why you shouldn't underestimate Microsoft's core line-up

Microsoft's Don Mattrick and Phil Spencer talk "quadruple-A" and flexible platforms. (Microsoft, Xbox One)

dirigiblebill  +   428d ago
Please god don't let them **** up Fable 4. And let the new Rare game be a new Viva Pinata. And make Black Tusk's shooter genuinely different to Halo. While I'm on, god, how about a new Republic Commando and closure on Beyond Good and Evil 2?
dirigiblebill  +   428d ago
Any chance of a new G-Police, too?
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Jam_sponge  +   428d ago
G-Police is Sony's, I think.
sengoku  +   428d ago
Sure M$ will have games at E3. i bet Ouya will to.

the real question is can they top what Sony has on the show floor at E3.

do they have games on xbone that will have the masses buying there unlimited cloud magic powered DRM TV remote.

thats the real question here.
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ThanatosDMC  +   428d ago
G-police is such a fun game way back when... I had it working on my old PSP-2000.
aviator189  +   428d ago
I don't think it will be pinata...maybe some older franchise from rare.
dirigiblebill  +   428d ago
Yeah, I wasn't being entirely serious :p Killer Instinct seems most likely, given that MS has updated its trademark.
MariaHelFutura  +   428d ago
People said "Don't underestimate Microsoft" leading into the reveal. Look how that turned out.

http://www.reactiongifs.com...
aiBreeze  +   428d ago
Truth hurts for deluded xbox fanboys.
wantonGamer  +   428d ago
Bwahaha, that gif is perfect for MSFT's console reveal.
Gildarts  +   428d ago
1 billion dollar investment in nextgen games.. Who was saying that MS forgot about gamers again?

Sony simply doesn't have that sheer amount of money to spend on games.

Sony won't be able to do 15 exclusives in one year.

1 Superman > 4 Humans
Xbox One, It only does everything.

@Godmars
With the sheer amount of money they're putting into this. Why wouldn't they be able to? They have been silent on games for 3 years. We are about to see the results of it.
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MariaHelFutura  +   428d ago
"Who was saying that MS forgot about gamers again?"

Their press conference and business policies.
Godmars290  +   428d ago
"Sony won't be able to do 15 exclusives in one year."

But can MS deliver on 15 exclusives in one year? Will they aim for 15 the next?
Gildarts  +   428d ago
@MariaHelFutura

Their press conference and their business policies?

Lies.

They clearly said that the event won't be focused on games before,during and after the event.

If you were still expecting more games. Then you were bound to be disappointed. Or you shouldn't have watched at all.
disposable  +   428d ago
Xbox One, it only does everything ELSE.
MariaHelFutura  +   428d ago
"They clearly said that the event won't be focused on games before,during and after the event."

Wow, you're actually right.

They said it will be about hardware. They barely talked about the specs, showed a peripheral and an app for 45 mins.

http://www.reactiongifs.com...
dirigiblebill  +   428d ago
@MariaHelFutura

Agreed that it was all rather app-focused, but give them a break - they revealed the specs, discussed cloud computing applications, demoed Kinect, showed off the box AND let journalists go hands-on with aspects of the machine. They even let people take photos of the motherboard. Sony has yet to so much as show us what PS4 looks like.
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duli14  +   428d ago
Just like you said MS have been silent and have not put out any games in over 3 years! so the billion they're spending is to play catch up to Sony. Meanwhile Sony has been releasing exclusive after exclusive and probably have spent alot more money. 1 billion from MS will get you TIMED exclusive cod dlc, quantum something, forza and the rest is kinect
loulou  +   428d ago
mariahelfuture

you are trying too hard to convince everybody that they should hate xbox and love playstation we get it..

and yes it was made clear before the announcement that the games would be shown at e3.

at the moment, e3 is do or die for xbox with me. but seeing you in EVERY SINGLE xbox thread is not going to persuade me or anyone i should think that they should ignore it now.

it is getting old watching the same people on here everyday. and no you are not alone in being a nuisance fanboy/girl whatever you are...

i aint defending microsoft, just sick of reading fantards comments
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Godmars290  +   428d ago
@dirigiblebill:

They actually did little if none of that. System specs weren't gone into detail, likely because of obvious differences to the PS4. The Kinect stage "demo" was only recorded segments with even the TV control segment not having a unit on stage to play against. Xb1's box was uninspiring. Then off-stage where hey did allow reports to actually see Kinect in action there were signs of lag and the "tick" thing its known for. Slight but still present and likely damaging which is why they didn't live demo it on stage.

They are not as much of an upfront company as you'd like to think. You might say the same of Sony, but at the very least they went into detail about their system and didn't have to show off the actual box because their mouthpiece shot his off.

@Gildarts

"With the sheer amount of money they're putting into this. Why wouldn't they be able to?"

Too Human. Duke Nukem. The Last Guardian. FFvs13.

Problems crop up during development which can't be simply fixed by throwing money at it. Likewise if they try to keep to just getting titles out to get them out at a certain time, there's no real telling what quality of games you're going to get.
dirigiblebill  +   428d ago
"They actually did little if none of that. System specs weren't gone into detail, likely because of obvious differences to the PS4."

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/m...
http://www.oxm.co.uk/54385/...

Quite enough for me. How much more detail were you expecting, exactly?

"The Kinect stage "demo" was only recorded segments with even the TV control segment not having a unit on stage to play against. Xb1's box was uninspiring. Then off-stage where hey did allow reports to actually see Kinect in action there were signs of lag and the "tick" thing its known for. Slight but still present and likely damaging which is why they didn't live demo it on stage."

Shady stuff as regards the live demo, I agree - but surely the fact that they were happy to let journos try it afterwards is a good thing? Has Sony let anybody try out that Media Molecule demo from the PS4 reveal yet?

"They are not as much of an upfront company as you'd like to think. You might say the same of Sony, but at the very least they went into detail about their system and didn't have to show off the actual box because their mouthpiece shot his off."

I would say exactly the same of Sony, yes. Frankly, my problem with the negativity people are sending Microsoft's way isn't that Microsoft doesn't deserve it, but that Sony's no less prone to spin, encroachment on consumer rights, dodgy pricing/online practises, etc. These are the chaps who Trojan-horsed the Blu-ray into living rooms, remember, inflating the PS3's price in the process.

Siding with one big publicly traded corporation is as bad as siding with another. They're all out to get us, you know.
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Godmars290  +   428d ago
"Has Sony let anybody try out that Media Molecule demo from the PS4 reveal yet?"

You're comparing a single game - actually thought it was only a tech demo and Sony just let them play around to show off what the (MM) was considering with the PS4 - to a full on accessory like Kinect? And then what they showed the media was basic diagnostics. Nothing different from when Kinect wasn't called Kinect, and even then they had games to show it off with.

"but that Sony's no less prone to spin, encroachment on consumer rights, dodgy pricing/online practises, etc. These are the chaps who Trojan-horsed the Blu-ray into living rooms, remember, inflating the PS3's price in the process."

I'll give you all the pro-spin BS surrounding vibration early on with the PS3, but nothing Sony has done - or has yet to announce - measures up to what MS is requiring with Xb1.

Yes they - tried to - Trojan BR with the PS3, but only because it worked with DVD and the PS2. Its because that worked so well, was a different time, that the movie-player industry was in a position to counter the move. Offer cheaper single-players sooner.

And still that is nothing to all of the nonsense surrounding the Arcade SKU for the 360. Shows how badly Xbox defender's stances are to this day because they refuse to concede to the counter-points that in needing an expensive HDD which could only be gotten from MS, it was a true Trojan horse rip-off.
Mr Marvel  +   428d ago
...and how many of those 15 exclusives will actually be worth playing?
syphon32  +   428d ago
@Gildarts, how much did they pay you to join their pr team? News flash, your in the one percent of flesh bags who thinks that way about Microscrew.
r21  +   428d ago
BG&E2 is ubisofts property and their only excuse for not progressing was because it was too much for this gen. Next gen is upon us so hopefully BG&E2 is in works now.
OlgerO  +   428d ago
this article just made me consider to jump from being a sony fanboy to potetnially buying the xbox one over PS4. If halve of this is true then this is going to get the best games we ever seen
3-4-5  +   428d ago
Forza 5 & Fifa 14 will be solid games. Those are good series.

Other than that, we don't know much. Hardly any actual gameplay has been shown and trailers are just there to make people think the game is cooler/better than it actually is.

People who are proud of their game show off actual in game gameplay footage...or they should at least.
Tres21  +   428d ago
i hated that Republic Commando never got a sequel that was my game & if they had it set up lik thay did wit 4 players now that'd be great
ltachiUchiha  +   428d ago
Wish they can backup their talk with sum new core games for their current system. All talk, no action.
Gildarts  +   428d ago
I think spending 1 billion dollar. Is action lol.

But you wouldn't care you're just a Sony fanboy.
ltachiUchiha  +   428d ago
$1 billion dollars & name me all the amazing new exclusive core games that came out for the 360 in the last 4 years? Show me the amazing lineup. Oh u cant because all the new ip's were kinect games. Thats not impressive at all. I also own two 360's but you wouldnt no that because microsoft got you on a leash.
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wiz7191  +   428d ago
They said a minimal of $1 billion dollars.
Aceman18  +   428d ago
you know for a company who can't supposedly afford to fund any games they sure are doing a bang up job with these releases over the past 2 yrs or coming later this year.

Gravity Rush
Killzone Merc
The Last of Us
Beyond Two Souls
Tearaway
Playstation All-Stars
Starhawk
Soul Sacrifice
The Puppeteer
The Rain
Knack
Drive Club
Infamous Second Son
Killzone Shadow Fall
The Last Guardian (which will be out of PS4)
Uncharted Golden Abyss
Sly Cooper Thieves in Time
Unit 13
Sound Shapes

so please Gildarts explain to me how a company that possibly can't fund games. also if you believe all those 15 games are going to be AAA games you are either bats**t crazy or the biggest blind fanboy ive ever seen.
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Mr Marvel  +   428d ago
Wow... you really have no idea do you?
syphon32  +   428d ago
@ Gildarts how much did they pay?
MariaHelFutura  +   428d ago
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yugovega  +   428d ago
don't underestimate their first party halo games sells very well the tweens, just like twilight did.
Thepharaoh  +   428d ago
How can we underestimate something we don't even know exists
GamingWorldPeace  +   428d ago
Because 8 games were already leaked even before E3.

http://xboxonedaily.com/201...

Based on the leaked images, the speculations are:
1. Quantum Break
2. Crackdown 3
3. Forza 5
4. A mystery new game??
5. A new Halo
6. A new game from Rare.
7. Ryse
8. Unknown. A new Fable or Black Tusk game?
Thepharaoh  +   428d ago
link is broken
forza is overdone and easy,
Quantum is some tv tie in garbage
crackdown has fallen
fable has fallen
microsoftt unfortunately is going to kill rare 's game
the mystery game is unknown
ryse is kinect and to shrouded

having black tusk and halo is not a lineup
DevilishSix  +   428d ago
Well if thats eight of the 15 games, I wouldn't be all that excited really.
felidae  +   428d ago
i don't care for any kind of game if the "used game thing" is going to happen as it's being teased.
The Meerkat  +   428d ago
What if 360 games are half the price of PS4 games because the devs know they'll sell more due to the no used game thing?

I'm just saying there must be some reason why MS look like they are shooting themselves in the foot.
rainslacker  +   427d ago
Won't happen. That means you have to sell more than twice as many on the Xbox to get the same amount of revenue. Publishers know people are willing to spend $60, and there are some that want to charge more.

And to date, there is no evidence to support that games will sell significantly more with no used games. In fact, recent events show that many people would avoid them, causing them to sell less.

Think of it like this.

Say they pick up an extra 50K sales because people really want the game. But on the flip side 100K people don't buy the game because of the used issue. We could switch inverse the argument, but either way we'd just be speculating.

And that's the point. There is nothing to show that it will improve game sales, and there is no reason to trust publishers to do right by the consumer by keeping prices low.

Jimquisition explains why.

http://n4g.com/news/1265674...
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-Falaut-  +   428d ago
Just like it shouldn't be under rated, it shouldn't be used as an accuse, as nobody knows anything about them until they show them.

I could say that I have 50 PSN exculsives coming out in the next two years. This means nothing if more than half of them are motion based casual shit.
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Jaces  +   428d ago
15 games in one year? Highly doubt it. That and who knows how many of those games are LIVE or Kinect games. They can talk all they want but until I see it with my own two eyes, I'm not biting.
SOULJER  +   428d ago
It could happen in their dreams.
strigoi814  +   428d ago
Viva pinata is gonna be hardcore lolz..
medman  +   428d ago
Nobody is "underestimating" anything. Microsoft has not delivered the goods for several years now. What gamers were waiting for was a sense that the company would speak to the hardcore that they have abandoned late this console cycle. Their conference only verified what every hardcore gamer realized long ago...Microsoft has gone soft. Kinect focus, TV focus, mainstream focus. All while taking more and more money and offering only ads and apps, no games. No thanks. PS4 engineered a console dedicated to gaming. Microsoft engineered their console for the non gaming masses. No matter what games they show at E3, nothing is going to change the fact the PS4 is technically superior and the Xbox One is designed to split it's resources to seemingly do everything other than deliver the utmost performance for games. Microsoft made their choice. Now it's time for us gamers to make ours.
HeavenlySnipes  +   428d ago
Considering that all the games sans Gears and Halo that were announced (steel battalion, star wars kinect etc.) last year that were hyped to holy hell, I'm not to excited about what they have to offer
Dape  +   428d ago
Love when people have no more arguments and they just start calling fanboy...even if the person is backing their statements with links and such.Do you realise that makes you sound worst than a fanboy!!
Supermax  +   428d ago
Oh yea Sony has drm now read your news for this week peeps let you friends know
forcefullpower  +   428d ago
I think you need to go read the news as you a bit out of touch from it.
Marugo  +   428d ago
I want brand new viva piñata! :)
DevilishSix  +   428d ago
If 360 proved anything its that when it comes to MS and their own first party games, its been crap. Rare has done nothing really for going on 8 years (Kameo), Fable 3 wasn't very good, Halo 4 just came out so it would surprise if we saw anything there, and noone has any idea who Black Tusk is made of and what they are making. Turn 10 has been good if you are into racers. But relying on MS own games to pull them thru is not a good horse to bet on.

Why is Rememdy showing this Quatic game when fans really want AW 2? It takes them like 3 to 5 years to make a game, now fans continue to wait.

You know what I ain't even going to complain anymore, I see no first party support for 360 currently (MS does not have the studios)and when it comes to MS studios (notice its just studios not game studios anymore as they changed the name, what does that tell ya?)its just disappointment other than Turn 10 and 343.
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mydyingparadiselost  +   428d ago
Their games don't matter to me anymore due to their business practices.
brave27heart  +   428d ago
Not being funny, but lots of money does not equal a good game. KOTR anyone?

Its not about the money (money, money), its about quality and variety. And its BS corporate suit talk like "Quadruple A games" that puts me off. Talking rubbish. Dont talk the talk, walk the walk. That means showing games, not FMV videos of Forza or...whatever the hell Quatum Break was..
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azshorty2003  +   428d ago
How much do you want to bet that 75% of the 15 games announced will have a heavy Kinect focus/usage. Even if they announce Gears or Halo, those games will have some form of motion or speaking to Kinect. Now that its with Every console, every 1st party or major exclusive will utilize the Kinect.
dcbronco  +   428d ago
Once again Sony fanboys may turn out to be their own worse enemies. MS making exclusives is strictly about spending the money. Even though there are a few delusional fans out there, even most Sony fans know that MS has far more money than Sony. It would take Sony close to five years to make what MS makes in a year if Sony had their best year ever five times in a row. There is a reason so many haters us the $ to replace the S in MS.

But because fanboys have gone on and on about exclusives, it looks like MS has listened. They announced 15 for the first year of Xbox One. Trust me, the majority will be AAA games. Because now they are willing to spend the money to shut up fanboys. One is a system with Live that will further increase their revenue and it will allow them to go after Sony in every area.

If you look at MSs revenue in the Devices division over the last few years you will see huge gains. That growth makes it worth their while in a growing industry. And that means throwing more money at owning that industry. MS has been looking for ways to spend some of the excess cash they have laying around, 15 exclusives in one year implies that they have decided to spend some of it on gaming. And that won't be good for Sony.

Just thing the US and the Soviets during the Cold War. That is what Sony is facing. And MS is definitely the US in that analogy.
IBleedXbox  +   428d ago
they are going to bring back crackdown ( a game that failed miserably). the are going to bring back fable ( another game that failed miserably). what else, nothing but bullshit

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