Game designer of Braid and now The Witness, Jonathan Blow is not very happy with the direction Microsoft is taking with the Xbox One.
This is marketing. They probably didn't even lie directly, they just said it in a way that it's more awesome than it is in fact. Like that rocket science BS lol
Jonathan Blow calling Microsoft liars. This s*** is getting real. As if I needed another reason to skip the Xbox One. Can't wait for The Witness.
xbone unavailing is totally unraveling. M$ never thought in there wildest dreams it would go down this badly. devs and gamers are revolting against much of what was unveiled. on top of that they have as good as no time before E3 to do any radical changes to there presentation. they cant show off any new gameplay that wasn't planed long before becasue it takes dev's months of time to prepare gameplay demos. have to add that Jonathan Blow in my book at least goes down as a dev that dears to speak up while so many have yet to voice there opinion. i can respect that.
indie devs have been making remarks about MS for some time now because the still haven't allowed self publishing for independently developed games like sony and nintendo so i wouldn't be surprised at all if jonathan blow goes ahead and says something else.
This is hilarious! Never have I seen such a self destructive reveal.
yeah seems he's really pissed over the self publishing policy, can't blame him, but he should look on the bright side, theres plenty of money he can get from sony and nintendos platforms.
Microsoft is once again backing on the fact that their target audience has always been individuals who do not understand technology. This has gone further with their exit from the hardcore gaming market; into the casual Kinect area. They can bullshit about their 300,00 instances of virtual servers; passing it off as actual 300,00 dedicated hardware that doubles up as a magical CPU and RAM that will add to a 400% boost on the internal parts of the Xbone; but in reality most people know that such a fabricated system just isn't possible. Blow is just one of many of us developers shaking our heads at this ridiculous crap. Not only have they shut many of us out; now they are fabricating specs. Good luck working on this horseshit platform.
Microsoft may have been including on-demand rented servers from the likes of Amazon, in case they are needed to meet the demand.
'the xbox is the next watercooler'
loving all the positive xbox news!! lol
If he said the same for Sony you would curse him to his death so please shut your mouth ps fanboys.
Hmmm green tears are so tasty!!!! Teas, I mean green... teas.
DonFreezer But he didnt.......
E3 for MS can't get here soon enough, these indie developers who were with xbox360 and strong supports of MS now all of the sudden see Sony and Nintendo offering self publishing and they are making the switch I have never seen such a bad console reveal in my 20 plus years of being a gamer, I know they are suppose to talk about it a E3 but I don' think they will change a lot used games will have a fee xblive is still a paid service no matter how anyone spins it of being better you will need internet connection or no games after 24hrs
an egotistical asshat called Microsoft liars? There has to be some kind of amusing twist when the story comes out fully.
Oh you PSbore fanboys.....
sony and microsoft is in a rap battle, xbox one said>> sony you suck we have more money this is the year of the duck . sony said my turn >>> sony said >>microsoft isn't it evil to live backwards check it out << live evil backwards 359 step backwards oh Hard liquor, y’all full of DRM, remember I tried to give Microsoft the large picture Your Microsoft wasn’t no gamer, they're just another lost money grubber You think it’s gangster to let a gamer love that TV more than their FPshooter used the kineck camera to watch his son even around the corner? Or leave your son out here alone to fend for himself, knowin that the kineck camera is government surveillance stalker, Is your money being long worth your lifespan bein shorter? Huh? Microsoft Zodd the immortal said >>Wow
Finally, someone willing to point out their lies.
If people stopped talking about Xbox One tomorrow, I sincerely wouldn't miss it. :)
Hey, I'm serious. I've lived this long without an Xbox in my life. Xbox One becomes obsolete tomorrow? Fine by me. Fine by me. ^^
Probably didnt lie directly? They said- Directly- They were going to have 300k servers worldwide. Thats as direct as it gets.
But did they say they were dedicated solely for use by XBox Live? They could just be part of their standard cloud offering, some of which is used by Xbox Live.
They also said they expect to sell 1 billion xbox ones. That just showed me how delusional they are.
@ltachiUchiha That comment shows how delusional you are, microsoft said a billion next-gen consoles, not just the X1...
@elit3nick They that just shows how delusional you are to beleave that. You do relealize that when the xbone launches it will become current gen and therefore they won't ever sell any next gen consoles.
@Elit3Nick: you're absolutely correct. Still, I also think it's absolutely delusional to believe that it's possible to sell 1 billion next gen consoles in total. Once sales for the PS3 and Xbox 360 have totally stopped dead in their tracks, the total of current console sales (including Wii) will amount to more than 300 million (which is already an insane number). To expect next gen to sell more than TRIPLE numbers of what current gen sold is batshit insane, in my opinion. That's about 1/8th of the world's population! XD
Not a lie... using Azure for their cloud...and its already a massive server farm. Blow is just a D Bag so honestly could careless if he believes its real or not.
They charge ppl now to play on p2p servers. They have false advertising showing a multiplatform game saying, "Only on xbox 360" when you can also play it on other systems. Smh
@itachi- I may be wrong but I don't think I've seen any ads saying "only on xbox 360" for multi platform games. However they make it seem like that for a lot of games especially COD.
Blow is a DBag... 100 percent agree... people forget how he got angry at people enjoying his game for the gameplay and not for the meaning behind it
Like Microsoft said: "Xbox 360 is best selling console 2 years row" Yet he forgot to say only in USA, but worldwide it sold less than Wii and PS3
2 years in any region is a big deal,to be the largest selling region is an even bigger deal,i mean 2 years despite all those amazing ps3 exclusives all those discounted wii's and on top of a new system launch (wii u),2 years is an amazing feat,id boast and brag more if i was microsoft.
Tell 360 wen it out sells ps2 and its only sold million more than ps3 so it's not that great considering it had a year head start and it makes most its sales cause every ones first two 360's broke so they rob people blind but I do like the 360 so I'm not a ps fanboy just stating the facts.
@shadyiswin So if winning in one region is such a reason to brag about then by your logic, Sony should be bragging like a motherfvcker, they've been beating the 360 in every other region for well over 2 yrs now. Heck, even VGChartz has them tied worldwide, and you know vgchartz has always had the 360 ahead. So there goes 360's once 10 million consoles lead, gone and matched by PS3 in less time. http://www.vgchartz.com/
Correct, however the two biggest gaming markets in the world are the US & the UK, to which the 360 leads by some way. Other countries in Europe are small in comparison to the money made in the UK & US. Japan is the 3rd, to which Sony & Ninendo will forever lock out.
I dont know exactly what the numbers in the US and UK are, but does it matter more that 360 is selling more in 2 countries? (even if they supposedly are the 2 biggest markets) or that its selling more worldwide? See this is the problem with "side-taking", you'll latch on to any fact to make yourself feel better. I see it everywhere (like politics for example)
So avalanche studios (Just Cause) is lying to us too? http://www.edge-online.com/... Coming from an ACTUAL Developer not indie. This guy is lying too, https://twitter.com/JamesSt... Wired is also lying. everyone is lying. Jonathan Blows(see what i did there?) comes of as just another mad Indie Developer to me. because of no self-publsihing. Microsoft will introduce self-publishing if enough people complain about it. I bet they are working their ass of right now. http://arstechnica.com/gami...
Did you actually bother to read the links you just posted. they just confirm what Jonathan blow is talking about. Microsoft is bending the truth a lot.
I can't believe that Xbox One is a all in one console, but!!! It can't play it's old 360 games?!?
Gotta move forward with the tech. Wanna play old shit keep ur old consoles. PS3 have been dicking the bc lovers for yrs!
PS3 disagrees with you. I guess it pays to be an early adopter.
PS4 isn't backwards compatible either but to be fair Sony is looking to use Gaikai to offer up all those PS3 games again through their stream service... and most likely put that either behind PSN+ or just resell them again to you.
as long as dev's and gamers are on the same side, we as gamers win. Winning = more good games It's like Microsoft wants us to think it's just A....yet we know B,C,D & E are involved somehow but they won't tell us everything. Then they go blame the media for us speculating on things they themselves never cleared up. They keep saying " so and so cleared this up earlier....but then they go on to say things that unclear it right back up again" Ego can destroy a company. When those running the show think they are smarter than they really are, things like this happen.
you have to love n4g. went you need a good laugh n4g is here to help with you. https://twitter.com/JamesSt... http://www.wired.com/gadget...
yeah, more severs for kinnect to spy on you is what they meant
Lol. I think this is the... 4th time, Johnny Blow has come out of the woodwork and lambasted Microsoft over rumours/speculation. Somebody's on the Sony payroll....
The thing that's getting me here is the "x86 architecture"... which on PCs can only utilize up to 4Gbs of RAM. I'm interested to see how this'll be different for consoles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
You're misunderstanding this. The Xbox One and PS4 will both be 64bit. The limit you're talking about only applies to 32bit systems and even then that only applies to non-PAE modes.
There's nothing special going on here. For years we've had 64-bit processors that use the x86 instruction set, but with 64-bit extensions. That's what will be inside the PS4 and XB One.
What I understood was:
X86 = 32bit
X64 = 64bit
Which is why I was confused...
Okay, that I didn't know. I just found this via a Google search:
"x86 started out as a 16-bit instruction set for 16-bit processors (the 8086 and 8088 processors), then was extended to a 32-bit instruction set for 32-bit processors (80386 and 80486), and now has been extended to a 64-bit instruction set for 64-bit processors."
Thanks for pointing this out.
This guy is tweeting that MS is lying, but has no PROOF that it was a lie. That's a guy venting on twitter instead of finding out for himself if those numbers were fabricated. I too am pissed at the reveal because they dropped the ball, but I am not going to a cast a stone at them without knowledge. This seems like another senseless attack just to join the TREND @Itachi-You are a complete idiot. MS never said they would sell 1 Billion units. If you read the article like an adult instead of look at the pretty pictures you would have seen the title said NEXT GENERATION CONSOLES(not just X1) WILL REACH 1 BILLION. Read next time you moron
Wouldn't you agree that this is going too far? It seems like a mob embellishing stories until its a wildfire of dumb.
I'm sorry but Blow is coming across as increasingly unhinged with his hatred of all things Microsoft. I know he feels like he got a raw deal with Limbo but he doesn't have anything to back up this assertion. And, even if Microsoft reaches the 300k claim in part by using virtual servers...so what?
Blow made Braid, not Limbo.
Virtual servers are not even close to real ones. It's a blatant lie meant for the uninformed.
Depends on how it is setup...which we and Blow know nothing about at this point.
Queasy: If they were physical servers, they would´ve showed that down our throats... That´s from 101 marketing.
@HammadtheBeast How do you figure that exactly? Virtual servers are no different to physical in terms of functionality as long as the host specs are sufficient. On top of that, everyone seems to forget that MS are first and foremost an IT company...not a gaming company. They can do this sh*t with their eyes closed if needs be.
Hammad is right. This is something MS has been talking about since at least 2008. They are virtual servers in Chicago. If you live near there, congrats. If not, it won't make much difference to you.
Just because a comment is negative, doesn't mean somebody is going all Jim Kramer and spazzing out. Negative comments can be stated while in a completely relaxed and calm state of mind. I think he recognizes something isn't as it seems and has informed us the gamers, that we were probably mislead. He is looking out for gaming as a whole if anything.
Braid. the game that screwed my brain. lol. if he made Braid, i'm so looking forward to "The Witness".
He's a hypocrite. He liked MS when they put him on and made him a success. Without MS he'd be just another Indy dev. Whatever you think of MS they have made many Indy devs household names. There wouldn't be Indy sections on consoles without MS blazing the trail. They made an affordable dev tool available for 100 bucks and gave a lot of people a platform to release games on. This guy seems bitter tbh.
It seems like a cool thing to hate on microsoft right now, its like when people watch the news and they feel like they know every thing there is to know about the world. Sometimes the less you know, the better you feel.
So true, queasy. Its getting stupid...
Given MS's history of misrepresentation this wouldn't be anything new. Edit: So he's asserting that basically MS is trying to do a pyramid scheme? That given forced online connection the spare CPU power of systems not in full use will go towards ones which are? In other words, if three X1s are regularly used only for TV while one is more for gaming, the spare system power of the three other consoles gets distributed to the fourth. Sounds like what they did with online.
what exactly did Microsoft actually misrepresent? let's be real here. this is something that sounds a little far fetched, but with the right dollars anything is possible (which Microsoft just so happens to have). its a show me situation. not a bash it situation. bashing something before its proven to be true or false simply shows ignorance and the desire to be a fanbot. don't be a fanbot.
That they're going to sink money into a 300k server farm when the actual servers will be the X1s they sell to people. That people are going to be contributing to it whether they know or want to, and then very likely will have to pay to access it. And Kinect is just as worse: people will have to use, be measured and recorded, and MS will use that information to sell advertisers who in turn will pay MS for ads which are then targeted towards Kinect users. They make money of the deal in all forms. Consumers may not get much out of it, but MS certainly will.
Microsoft is counting their current Azure servers and misrepresenting them to pretend as if they are exclusive to the Xbox One. If they were using Azure; they would not have access to 80% of those servers. Even then; I'm being generous. Next, they are fabricating the server count to suggest that they have 300,000 physical servers. In actuality; they are likely running hundreds to thousands of virtual server instances on a much more reduced amount of physical servers. Keeping this simple; it's a marketing ploy. Anyone can create hundreds to thousands of virtual servers; then claim them as a "large amount of servers". Then after they are done with their marketing gimmick; reduce the count down to something that would actually function (that amount of virtual servers would run horribly). It's complete smoke and mirrors; most people are not falling for it. I'm not even going to touch on the ridiculous notion that the cloud would give a 400% performance boost. It's quite the contrary; as you would be bogged down by network speeds. Ultimately relying on the cloud would worsen your performance.