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Submitted by Cam977 328d ago | opinion piece

Why The Xbox ONE's Success Could Kill Gaming

CenturyGaming UK writes:
"Microsoft's newly revealed media centre, the XBOX One hasn't seen a positive response from the media thanks to an abundance of anti-consumer practices adopted by the new technology. Upon first glance these minor inconveniences are acceptable, however, upon deeper analysis the implications of such destructive methods may have a serious impact upon console gaming if the console proves to be successful." (Xbox One)

FrigidDARKNESS  +   328d ago
Christ sake how do people think these days.
Faboy article and troll thread.
icecoldfire   328d ago | Personal attack | show | Replies(8)
fermcr  +   328d ago
I agree. Another Trolling article.

If the X1 is a success IT WILL NOT KILL GAMING. To who ever writes these kind of stupid articles, Stop being a dramatic Queen.

Personally I think the X1 will fail in sales, but who knows, might be wrong.
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DragonKnight   328d ago | Trolling | show
GribbleGrunger  +   328d ago
We all know that Kinect has a library of words it can respond to, but how do we know it hasn't got a library of words it DOESN'T respond to, like 'Cocaine' or 'bomb' or 'gun'? These trigger words would then be monitored for a defined set of time and if you said them a lot, that information would be sent to the authorities. It's not that far fetched, you know. If I can say 'XBOX ON' then clearly the mike was never off.

You really have to be careful what you invite into your home.

Even if MS decide against some of these measures because of the public outcry, they'll just slowly introduce them over time.
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Enemy  +   328d ago
@ MariaHelFutura: That just means Germany are trolls too!

Idiots aren't realizing that these problems are bigger than N4G, as seen by not only stock drops for Microsoft but, as you posted, Germany making such claims about the Xbox One being a "surveillance device."

Idiots, again, think no one outside of here is taking notice, but the truth is, people who are on the defensive about the whole thing are contributing to the demise of the Xbox brand. I can't say I care, gamers who actually want games won't miss Microsoft. Sony/Nintendo will be around for us.
Belking  +   328d ago
what do you expect from N4G....lol It's what they do best here.
JokesOnYou  +   328d ago
oh yeah a new SDF blog:
Checkout these latest headlines, and worst the articles are filled with pure fanboy flamebait, basicly its glowing reviews of all things playstation and all negative for xbox:

Why The Xbox ONEs Success Could Result In The Death of Gaming
"No more is the Xbox a gaming machine."
http://www.centurygaming.co...

A Growing Trend: PS4 Trumps XBOX ONE In Gamespot Poll
"Ever since the console was revealed (and an outburst of negativity crushed Microsoft), Microsoft have been drip-feeding upset fans tidbits of information (such as the ability to take over a friend's console to help them) in order to soften the blow and attempt to rebuild their diminishing fanbase."
http://www.centurygaming.co...

Passing Time! Ps Mobile Review
"Despite these flaws, Passing Time! certainly deserves a place on your Playstation Vita's memory stick!"
http://www.centurygaming.co...

Next Call Of Duty Teased; March 21 Reveal?
"Personally, I am not very hyped for this game unless it will make the franchise's debut on the Playstation 4. In any other case I will avoid this game and opt for the less restricting upcoming Battlefield game, Battlefield 4."
http://www.centurygaming.co...

Why The Playstation Vita Has Already Succeeded
"Although promised with the PS3 (and still not done), the PS4 was supposedly built from the ground-up with Vita to PS4 compatibility in mind."
"Long Live Play."
http://www.centurygaming.co...

Is The Wii:U On The Brink Of Collapse?
"PS3 seems to be alot more focused on what it's supposed to be."
http://www.centurygaming.co...

5 Reasons Why You Should Buy A Ps Vita
"Vita is the best at what it does so shouldn't be shunned by the haters."
http://www.centurygaming.co...
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MariaHelFutura  +   328d ago
"glowing reviews of all things playstation and all negative for xbox"

That how it been, thats not N4Gs fault.

You guys are hilarious, you blame everyone but Microsoft like Microsoft. It's Me, N4G, Mods, Gamers, Fanboys, Sony and the Media. Everyone but yourselves and Microsoft.
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JokesOnYou  +   328d ago
I didn't just blindly "blame" anyone...I posted proof this is just basicly a playstation loyal fansite. Don't trust me anyone can willingly go to their site briefly read the content and decide for themselves.

Furthermore I'm not blaming "everyone" in fact its apparent that most of the major/popular/more reputable sites have in fact been critical of X1 but they have also been positive about other aspects....its by and large the no name websites that basicly are blogs from n4g members who hate xbox that have headlines like "Why The Xbox ONEs Success Could Result In The Death of Gaming" which is fine cause no one except sonyfanboys takes them seriously, I mean it would be easier to buy a Toyota from a Honda dealer than to get the writer of this site to acknowledge that although he doesn't like it a lot of gamers will enjoy the X1.

Just do some research checkout these top sites:
http://www.ebizmba.com/arti... lets just for example start with the top 3 by popularity.

http://www.ign.com/articles...
-You see the difference, the video is fair and balance analysis

http://www.gamespot.com/cal...
-Again fair and balanced, no fanboy quotes trying to sway opinion, just creditable info

http://www.gametrailers.com...
-Yep, you see the trend, you can be critical while also not being a fanboy, that's the difference between fanboys and fans.

These are just some examples, like I said nothing wrong with criticism but when your ONLY goal is to sway uninformed gamers to do what YOU WANT then all creditability is lost and that's why it doesn't matter what sites like this say.
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nosferatuzodd  +   328d ago
Danny Spore_777 Mexen26 May 2013 08:10

Very valid points, especially since, if casuals should get this, then MS might give us, gamers, the proverbial middle finger. That scares me.
I want traditional gaming with very, very few enhancements that serve the gaming well.

This is why, I will buy a PS4 and a Wii U. I doubt I will ever, ever own an XBOX One

Zodd and i agree 100 percent
-Superman-  +   328d ago
DRM, Always online, Camera on, used game are blocked.
This really could kill gaming. Reminds me ACTA!
RenegadeRocks  +   327d ago
What MS did wrong with XBOXONE was it diluted the console hardware industry. Now every console will need to also mess with TV. And instead of giving maximum powerful machines for games , hardware resources will have to be alloted to making extra features work. Either this will lead to weaker gaming machines or costlier gaming machines. I don't want any of that trend as it hampers gaming, no one else.

If MS had launched a separate product called Xbox Magic Tv and made it the water cooler it wants to I wouldn't mind at all. But making a GAME console diverge and do all this jist makes for bad trend that has started and cannot be stopped now !
ltachiUchiha  +   328d ago
If microsoft doesnt debunk all the negative things they added to the xbox one & if not, I hope they fail miserably.
DARK WITNESS  +   328d ago
it's not even just a case of debunking... whatever they have done with with the hardware and software they will need to change as well.

the thing is there was a lot of feedback regarding even before the announcement. when a lot of this was just rumor.
Excalibur  +   328d ago
@DARK WITNESS, agreed 100%

I will not buy a system that has a video camera attachment that has to stay on and connected to the internet to work.

I will not buy a system that requires me to install everything I BUY and then goes out to authenticate my honesty.
Who is the thief here? You are the one stealing my privacy.

That said I don't care if it's Sony, Microsoft, Apple or Joe's used appliances I will not buy it.

BTW here is the patent for M$ to watch you watching TV.

http://pimg-aiw.uspto.gov/....
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DARK WITNESS  +   328d ago
totally agree.

some people are looking at this like it's just fanboys attacking MS etc...

honestly if Sony tried to pull off the same crap I would feel just the same. If Nintendo tried the same crap I would feel the same and I will not support anyone trying it.

If that means I say bye bye to gaming then so be it. this gen would be my last and I will just keep playing old games.

I just hope and pray that sony are seeing this and don't make the same mistake. This gen alone has been bad enough with season passes and all that but i could just about put up with it. I know i am just one person and it does seem like most gamers don't care so eventually all this crap will be the norm, but if i have a choice to support one company that still putting the gamer first, I will do it !
ltachiUchiha  +   328d ago
Hopefully the hardware wasnt built with these features where its just an optional thing for microsoft to make a decision to do so or not. I just dont want them to sugar coat it.
Conzul  +   328d ago
It's too late for Micro$oft.
They have demonstrated that they have the technology and the intentions to use it.

Even if they "turned it off" or promised not to use it, no one worth their gamerscore would believe them.

The damage is done.
DARK WITNESS  +   328d ago
ya thats the other point.

even if they switch it off now, who is to say they don't put it back on later down the line with an update once they have sold a few million units and gamers are now back in their good books?

it's making it very hard to trust them or who any good faith. at least that is how I feel.
MichaelLito79  +   328d ago
It is the negativity from an articles like this that harms gaming not Microsoft. Especially, since we don't have the whole picture.
amiga-man  +   328d ago
I'm not sure M$ have the full picture anymore, their stupid ideas about DRM, always on kinect and and account checking every 24 hours has stirred up a hornets nest, what surprises me is why they thought gamers would accept it.
DragonKnight  +   328d ago
MichaelLito79: When you even have a representative of the German Federal Government against the Xbone, then it's pretty clear that we DO have the whole picture. The Xbone is indefensible.
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DragonKnight  +   328d ago
Oh hey look, a troll AND a racist all in one. Awesome.

Judging by your last comment though, you won't be infecting this site much longer.
XabiDaChosenOne  +   328d ago
@LordsithOne Are you seriously placing the past sins of a country on the shoulders of one man because of his educated opinion on your favorite console? The lengths morons like yourselfs would go to to defend a console and a coporation that is obviously trying to limit your privacy freedoms is sickening. Grow the hell up! This is not about which console is better than the other, it's about a corporation that is trying to metaphorically enslave it's consumers!

You Diehard Microsoft occultist disgust me!
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claterz  +   328d ago
If all of the negative info surrounding the Xbox One were false then Microsoft would come out and say it. When the rumours of an always online console were going around the net before the reveal, Microsoft kept quiet about it, and what happened at the reveal? They came out and said the Xbox One requires an internet verification every 24 hours to play games.

The reason we dont have the "whole picture" is because Microsoft are too afraid to admit it. If all of the info was false they would have come out and said it by now.

All they keep saying is how their policies are being misinterpreted and yet when asked to explain them in more detail they just say they're waiting until the right time.
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GamingWorldPeace  +   328d ago
How is always online the same as a 24 hour verification? They already said you don't require to be online to play games, movies, Bly Ray and etc. The 24 hour spot check is to verify license for used game trade-ins at store and is yet to be determined if the 24 hour is the final time interval for the check. I am going to keep an open mind and see the complete details in a few weeks to see factual evidence before jumping to conclusion. We still don't know what Sony's plans are, it might be similar. Dawg, I surely hope not but I just don't know at this point.
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claterz  +   328d ago
@GamingWorldPeace
Well if you dont have access to the internet for longer than 24 hours then you cant play games. How can anyone defend that? Ive had a PS3 and 360 since release and there have been loads of time where I didnt have access to the internet. What if your provider has an outage, or if your moving house or visiting a relative without internet; you wont be able to play SINGLE PLAYER GAMES. How anyone can defend this policy is really shocking to me.

Im keeping an open mind but Microsofts attitude with this whole thing just makes me think of the worst that could happen.
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DigitalRaptor  +   328d ago
Very, very true. The fact that Microsoft reps are tip-toeing around the facts, is because they know the facts are not what consumers want to hear.

It's damage control in its purest form.

MS only deserve all this negativity surrounding them. And they have the audacity to blame the media for the lack of coherence in their policies, rather than themselves for not telling the truth when it's asked of them.
4Sh0w  +   328d ago
"Well if you dont have access to the internet for longer than 24 hours then you cant play games. How can anyone defend that?"

"In related news, Microsoft has confirmed they are experimenting with offering codes for people in Internet-free situations, like soldiers on active duty, to let them play offline."
http://bloody-disgusting.co...

claterz and DigitalRaptor Microsoft seems to be working on different ways to accommodate everyone, I mean I know its a broken record but this is exactly why we need to wait for further clarification because its clear Microsoft are working still working on this strategy internally so therefore you can not make any definitive statements about what that structure is since they themselves haven't finalized anything yet.
JokesOnYou  +   328d ago
MichaelLito79 Don't worry this site has no creditability with anyone other than sonyfanboys I mean the writer actually said this about the next COD reveal:

"Personally, I am not very hyped for this game unless it will make the franchise's debut on the Playstation 4."
http://www.centurygaming.co...

-I mean OK if you're not a COD fan so be it, but if its just based on which console it debuts for then that screams fanboyism.
DigitalRaptor  +   328d ago
Sure man, definitely. This article screams BS when it's what most logical people expect from the outcome of such blatant anti-consumerism, and overwhelming focus on the non-gaming elements of a gaming console. /s
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Cam977  +   328d ago
Broken link. You do know this so called 'ms hate' isn't exclusive to N4G? Why do you think MS removed the comments on Youtube?
JokesOnYou  +   328d ago
link broken? oh I see...
lol, n4g member blog confirmed, even he couldn't defend such ridiculous comments so he pulled the page. -Come on is that you morgan, you writing blogs now bro?, good for you.
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morganfell  +   328d ago
Am I weighing so heavily on your mind Jokes that you snatch me out of thin air in order to lay blame?

And are you so unobservant that you cannot detect a writing style wholly different from my own? Seriously, who uses a comma between dissimilar adjectives? Were I to write, and I currently do not, I would do so as myself.

I looked at a few of your other posts after spotting this and I can see your growing frustration with Microsoft. A most deserved frustration they have earned. I have this odd feeling that were you to simply let that frustration fly openly you and I might get along in a grand manner.

Remember...gamers first.
rainslacker  +   327d ago
Yeah neoGaf, Gamasutra, IGN, and every other major game site and forum on the internet has no credit with anyone other than sony fan boys as well. No need to worry. /s

If what you assert is true, then it would seem to me that the SDF is growing in numbers exponentially every day. Hooray for us I guess. again /s
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Foxgod  +   328d ago
If the games on the Xb1 sell well, then it wont kill gaming.
So it all depends on the game sales.
MariaHelFutura  +   328d ago
'Kill' is a metaphor genius.
Foxgod  +   328d ago
SO i didn't use it as a metaphor?
MariaHelFutura  +   328d ago
No you didn't. If you did. Please explain how.
GreenRanger  +   328d ago
Is the camera optional on the PS4?
I hope so, otherwise i'll have no next-gen console to buy.
JBSleek  +   328d ago
And that's the thing. Doesn't the PS camera have to be on for the light-bar on the controller to work? That needs to be clarified at E3.

Since every PS4 will have the camera it doesn't seem like a optional thing. But once again we don't have the complete picture yet.

If so then wouldn't they both, that being PS4 and Xbox One, have to have their cameras on for you to game.
Mr_Nuts  +   328d ago
I don't think it responds to the light bar unless you want it to.

Plus they haven't decided whether or not to include it in every PS4 and if they are debating whether or not to include it then why would you need to plug it in to get your PS4 to work. Surely if you needed it they wouldn't even "debate" about including it in the system they would just put it in since you need it
Rusty515  +   328d ago
It probably will be required. But I imagine it'll be like the wii censor bar. You know, it'll actually turn off when the console is off so it's not stalking you.
hardcorehippiez  +   328d ago
yes it does youre quite right about that but you can go offline and it wont be an intrusion into your privacy. simple really and it doesnt need to be connected to the internet every 24 hours for verification
BitbyDeath  +   328d ago
That was clarified -

'The light-bar doesn’t require the camera to function. It’s just a different way of identifying the player.'

http://www.edge-online.com/...
MariaHelFutura  +   328d ago
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"Are all of those things optional, though? For people who have broadband data limits, for example? They can customise everything?

"Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that."

If the PS4 can go entirely offline, they can't watch you or block used games.
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GamingWorldPeace  +   328d ago
What does your article about online connection have to do with the question pertaining to if the PS eye camera is going to be included with the system or not?
MariaHelFutura  +   328d ago
It doesn't matter (when it comes to privacy) if it's entirely offline.
LeCreuset  +   328d ago
Optional as in an accessory you buy separately, or optional as in always on?
GreenRanger  +   328d ago
@ LeCreuset
Both, really.
I would prefer not to have or need it at all.
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urwifeminder  +   328d ago
It doesn't bother me if it kills gaming pc is strong plus that back catalogue of mine is about thirty deep, so I shall fully support ms..
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OlgerO  +   328d ago
What do you mean back catalogue ? you know that the next xbox is not backwards compatable right ?
stage88  +   328d ago
So you're happy to see gaming die at the hands of MS.

You're not a gamer at all.
JBSleek  +   328d ago
1. Micrsoft isn't going to kill gaming...that isn't even possible. And no the gaming industry isn't going to follow Micrsoft path because they are more concerned with a more specific type of consumer.

2. We don't have the full story or picture yet. Sure Xbox One didn't show a tone of games at their conference and I think that is because E3 is literally less than a month away.

I think that some critismn is warrented of course but I think that we should wait till E3 before we paint this gloom picture already over an one hour press conference. Mind you that Microsoft does have to clarify some of its message with direct answers about online, used games, and kinect.
Foxgod  +   328d ago
Yep MS didnt show a ton of games, but MS never promised they would either.
People simply expected they would, its not really fair to get angry because of unmet expectations that people made to themselves.
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JBSleek  +   328d ago
I not angry I for one enjoyed the conference but 'm not stictly a gamer though. I'm a big tech person and as a tech enthusiast as well as a game enthsiast I like what it can do.

But if you are mostly a gamer I can see the frustaration but it is just like when smartphones came out and people said I just wasnt to make phone calls. And now we're here.
MonkeyNinja  +   328d ago
If every console follows Microsoft's lead after Xbone (and they will if it succeeds, even Sony and Nintendo as companies care about $), and every one of those consoles have a similar "Big Brother" approach, along with no used games or paying more for used games than you should, DRM, etc., people will simply lose interest in gaming on those consoles, which equates to no/low sales of games, which means no devs will make games anymore as no one is buying their games, hence the end of gaming.
joab777  +   328d ago
This is an odd article because things happen all the time that we don't like. And rarely are we able to do anything about it. MS wouldn't do this if they didn't think they could. Look at their online fees, dlc, apple and google's spying etc. They are looking for ways to secure future tech and as it was well put above, ppl love xbox and if they have games and entertainment and the price is right, it will sell.

I remember having an argument with my friends about whether the xbox was actually cheaper than ps3. U buy an xbox and then u must pay for online, wireless, and if u needed a bigger hard drive, it was 2x as much.
Foxgod  +   328d ago
True, the Wii didnt kill gaming either, it only altered it.
There might be a good side to MS its move, maybe their strategy will increase the global population from 300 million to 600 Million+ across all platforms due to introducing new features that appeals to new kinds of gamers.

Just like Nintendo did, which increased the gaming population from a 150 Million to 300 Million, by bringing casual gamers.

In the end, more consumers is the only way to keep up with rising expenses to develop games.
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Hicken  +   328d ago
The Wii didn't KILL gaming, but it didn't do a whole lot to further it.

What "new types" of gamers are you appealing to by making a cable box that isn't actually a cable box?

By all means, give the Wii all the credit, and NONE to the other consoles that, by themselves, will have exceeded 150 million before they're done.

See, just because Nintendo brought in a lot of new users doesn't mean they'll stay: after all, they're CASUAL gamers, and people who are casual fans of ANYTHING don't do a whole lot to further that thing. Microsoft is doing something very similar, except what they're doing isn't even gaming-related.

It SOUNDS interesting, until you listen to the details. Lots of content deals that won't be of much good to anybody outside the US. It doesn't replace your cable box, and requires an additional accessory to do HDMI(if I remember correctly). Xbox Live Gold is certain to be necessary, adding in an additional fee to everything you have to pay. A hard drive you can't replace, meaning buying an external to use for it.

All that is gonna turn a lot of people off.

More CORE consumers is the only way, as- something I've stated already- casuals will NOT sustain the industry. Expecting them to offset "rising" dev costs is silly.

On that note, that's an issue that needs to be taken up with the publishers. They're the ones that make all the money off these games, and how many publishers- even when they do completely STUPID stuff, like Activision and Capcom- go under, as opposed to the number of devs that close? Furthermore, it's the publishers that often push the devs to do things that fail, but the chance of that failure biting the publishers isn't as big as the developer eating the mistake.

You told me before you were excited for the XBOne because of the GAMES coming. But so much of this console has nothing to do with gaming, and quite a bit that IS game-related seems to be designed around limiting what you can do WITH your games. Does none of that bother you?
SpinalRemains  +   328d ago
This was not a congressional decision, and we can do something about it though.

We can say what is unacceptable through our purchasing choices.
deno  +   328d ago
I actually discussed the same topic with my friend last night. Both of us hail from the Genesis/Snes era and we sure have seen gaming grow, which is why I feared something like this down the road. I will by no means support this atrocity of a console with these communist restrictions.
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Foxgod  +   328d ago
Well i hail from the Atari/msx era, and seen bigger changes going on then the ones before us.
You really need to look at the positive side of it, this new changes could bring in more money for the gaming industry, which can be used to create more or better games.
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deno  +   328d ago
I respect your opinion but I will never except this and I'm not the only one. Games will be locked now, on top of that I can't let my friend borrow one for more then a few hours or let him keep it if I wish so. The camera will be able to spy on me and it needs to check for a wifi signal once every 24 hours. I will stick with the Ps4 and Wii U.
SpinalRemains  +   328d ago
Really?

Microsoft's capital obviously did not create a powerful console this time, so how exactly do you figure this is a good thing?
Imalwaysright  +   328d ago
I had to laugh. It will bring more money at OUR expense without us seeing any benefit. On the contrary, everything will be more restricted and if people support these practices the multibillion dollar companies will find even more ways to rape us. That is why the Xbone must be DOA. Supporting it means losing OUR rights.
ACESupERIC  +   328d ago
I also started on atari and while I am impressed where the industry is today, MS needs to rethink some of these policies. Number one for me is mandatory kinect. How can anyone defend a camera and mic accessible by MS being implanted in their home? The same MS who got in trouble for spying on skype customers. The online checkup doesn't bother me much but I can understand the uproar from people with spotty connections. Used games fee maybe? I'm sorry but video games are no different from any mass produced consumer product which can and should be able to be sold and used by the new
owner. Do you buy a used car and pay a fee to the manufacturer for it to run? No you don't. Why should the video game industry be any different? Peace
GamingWorldPeace  +   328d ago
What if the Used game fee proposed by MS does the opposite and saves gaming. If developers are going out of business left and right these days all because of used game sales due to not getting any profit from it what if the used game fee provide developers with a cut of the profit each used game is sold. That might ensure their long term survival and more games can be made as a result. Thinking outside the box for once might free up some needed perspective, people.
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SexyGamerDude  +   328d ago
Okay, let me think outside the box. MS also makes it hard for Indie devs. That means certain games won't be made as a result. But hey, Minecraft only has a couple of million players. Nobody will miss it, right?
Imalwaysright  +   328d ago
If they are closing its their own damn fault. TR sold 3.3 million copies in less than a month and was considered a failure by SE. Dead Space 3 had to sell 5 million copies to be considered a success. Clearly there is something fundamentally wrong with their business model and it needs to be changed and undergo a massive restructuration ASAP. Having fees on pre-owned games is the easy way out (at our expense) but it wont cure the cancer that is their business model.
rainslacker  +   327d ago
Game companies can survive even with the used game market. Some game companies survive without selling millions of copies of their product. Then some fail. The reason they fail is unlikely to be the used game market, no matter how much the publishers are saying it.

Do you believe every developer that closes does so because their game sold more used copies than new ones? Maybe in some cases, but the typical reason for developers closing is because their games weren't successful, or because companies looking to block used games(such as EA) buy developers only to obtain IP rights. If a game isn't successful, then it's place on the used game market is assured, because a person is more likely to trade it in, and the price is likely to go down quickly based on supply and demand.

Publishers have to make sure that the games they release are of good quality, and that they have holding power among the player. At the same time they have to reign in their overblown development and advertising budgets which only put an unreasonable expectation on sales. Doing so means more profit, and less devs closing. It's not that hard to understand, but so many publishers are so stuck in the current model, and the only way they seem to be able to think to fix it is to shoehorn whatever model or feature that may have been successful in other areas.

Here's the truth of the matter. Restricting used game sales, does not increase the ability for games to sell. A games ability to sell is what it is regardless of the used games market.

This idea keeps the games that are most commonly sold used(the lackluster titles as stated above) off the used market, because the hassle of trading them in just becomes troublesome, and less money is gotten for going through the trouble. Even then, some will make it onto the market, but who will buy them used at full price, or slightly marked down? They were lackluster to begin with. If people aren't willing to buy a game at full price, then keeping the slightly lower priced alternative out there isn't going to change that.

My point is, it's not just a way to get money off used games. It's also a form of price fixing because in essence, the publishers and console makers control the market.
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WeaseL  +   328d ago
DRM has almost killed PC gaming
ShaunCameron  +   328d ago
While region-locking hasn't killed gaming as of yet.
Prcko  +   328d ago
I just hope developers will develop high budget games,not angry birds stuff
VTKC  +   328d ago
Well its nothing to worry about because it wont succeed. With the amount of shit like DRM and ID Kinect and paying a fee to port already purchased games over bullshit that it has shown. No one will want to own a spying cash milking piece of piss poor pathetic excuse for a console disguised as a 1980s video tape player.
Nocando  +   328d ago
How edgy, you just parroted what everyone else of your ilk has posted. Try harder.
VTKC  +   328d ago
yeah I am one fucking clever parrot to be able to type this.
You going to give me a cracker now asshole?
twinspectre  +   328d ago
the xbone success will KILL the gaming it's a fact
Jek_Porkins  +   328d ago
My only question is why are people still bringing up a used game fee when Microsoft has said repeatedly that there is no used game fee. It's always connected true, but you don't have to be online or connected to the internet 24/7 to play games.

If you are afraid of someone spying on you, don't buy it, but I don't think the industry is going to change because of one console. If you look at Online Passes, a lot of people thought those were the worst thing ever, same with on disc DLC or paid DLC in general.

I'm not saying the Xbox One is perfect for everyone, but obviously there is other options when it comes to gaming.

Seems like we should get 100% of the facts before condemning completely, and part of the reason we don't have all the facts is Microsoft's fault, they dropped the ball on the information, but hopefully it'll all get straightened out before E3, because I just want to be able to enjoy the games being shown.
SexyGamerDude  +   328d ago
"My only question is why are people still bringing up a used game fee when Microsoft has said that there is no used game fee"

Because Microsoft has also stated that there was one. Every person from Microsoft that is questioned has a different story to tell. I watched one of them tell an interviewer that there was one. Yet articles pop up saying that there isn't one.
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Jek_Porkins  +   328d ago
Which is why they should clarify, I think they've dropped the ball with information and are generally coming off as confused. I don't see how they could have a fee, while others don't.

I'm pretty confused as to what's going on, but I'm looking forward to seeing what is legit and what isn't.
rainslacker  +   327d ago
It seems to me, and this is speculating, that MS either has a fee, so used games will be playable in a sense, or that MS doesn't have a fee, and used games will be restricted or unplayable.

It it was that there is no fee and used games are playable, then it seems that they would have known this, and we wouldn't be having this debate. These corporate heads didn't just randomly think of a used game fee out of the blue when asked about it on Tuesday. They knew those rumors were out there, and they should have been prepared to answer them.
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forcefullpower  +   328d ago
@Jek. Again you are spreading misinformation. They have said there will be a fee and you do have to connected to even get the game to work and it will check every 24 hours and remove Amy games that are not tied to your account.
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Jek_Porkins  +   327d ago
No, they've already said no fee, and according to Polygon there is no fee whatsoever.

Basically as I said earlier, if I have a game and lend it to my brother, when he goes to play it, it will authenticate on his console, which will deactivate it on mine.

http://www.theverge.com/201...

Personally I don't have issue with going online for a second to authenticate games if it helps fight piracy, and in the same report I listed, it says there will be options available for people without internet access, like military people ect...
forcefullpower  +   327d ago
No it will not deacvitate on your console if your brother plays it on his. You have to be signed into his console to play it otherwise he will have to pay for the game.

Seriously go and fucking read the URL's that you past around. That site completely misquoted Polygon.

If you can't blame second hand sales blame piracy. You seriously must be working for Microsoft or a publisher like EA or Activision.
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Sh0ckWav3  +   328d ago
this is gonna affect us parents alot, i cant be buying the same multiple games for my kids accounts..i have a family accounts where we share our games throught the house where not going to be able to do this with this practice of having a games lock to your gamettag!
SpinalRemains  +   328d ago
Bloody Bill.....

Dont piss down my back and tell me it's rainin

Microsoft is doing exactly that. Urinating all over gamers and blaming the weather.

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