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Submitted by 13wolfblake37 993d ago | news

Xbox 360 will not be abandoned for at least five years

Yusuf Mehdi, a senior vice president at Microsoft, says that the company expects another 25 million Xbox 360 consoles to be sold over the next five years. "That's something we're shooting for, it's not a financial plan as such, it's just rough numbers if you will," said Mehdi, "To sell another 25 million, half of those will probably come from replacements, but half will come from new buyers." (Microsoft, Xbox 360)

The_Infected  +   993d ago
It's already abandon. They should've put that billion towards games and acquiring games studios 5 years ago not after the lack of 1st party exclusive games for years on 360. To late IMO.
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ltachiUchiha  +   993d ago
We havent gotten a new AAA ip in a couple years so even though we have halo/gears/forza to keep ppl happy & multiplatform games, it still feels like the left the core empty handed of course unless your a casual kinect fan. They been happy with tons of shovelware. State of Decay will be out this year but thats ab xbl game & is also coming to pc. Minecraft maybe but thats also on pc and there will be a ps3 release some time soon.
HammadTheBeast  +   993d ago
It has been abandoned for the past five years. I see no change coming.
RiPPn  +   993d ago
Don't worry, they will bring the games for the Xbox One, at least until they feel they can coast on 3rd parties, then they'll revert back to screwing the core. Microsoft is not to be trusted, no matter what they show at E3.
CommonSenseGamer  +   993d ago

Exactly how was the 360 abandoned 5 years ago?
dcbronco  +   993d ago
Yeah, buy more studios. Like Sony is do...oh wait.
Why o why  +   993d ago

No silly. Just release more games. Not an infinite amount, just more. The ratio since kinects release is like 10 or 15 to 1 in favour of kinect over core.. I'm guessing by your 'oh wait' you think it's the studio acquisition people are solely complaining about. It's not. From what some say ms own a comparable amount of studios it's just that their output isn't comparable at all especially over the past few years. What's your excuse or explanation for this Mr 'oh wait' ;)....

In regards to the crux of this article, this is good news to hear. It will be interesting to see how many non 3rd party games will be released over the projected 5 year period. An improvement over last gen for sure
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SDF Repellent  +   993d ago
@ dcbronco,

Third party support is the key to any console success from NES to the PS2. Consoles like the Dreamcast and Sega Saturn have great 1st party games (some of the best games ever made, might add)and those consoles only lasted a few years because of a major key element is missing, no Third party support. The Wii jumped the gun and release the Wii U early because the Wii sales have slowed down greatly for the past few years because of no third party support. Sure the PS3 might release a couple more exclusive than the X360 from now till the end, but that won't make that much of a difference this late in the generation. It is all about third party support and the X360 still got them.

The X360 doesn't have that issue because every major third party is making and will continue to make games for it for a very long time. Couple that with price drops and the rumored mini version of the console, why is it so hard to believe that it won't sell in the future with games like GTAV, COD, and yes, even Kinect games to make it a viable system for people on a budget. Remember, these new consoles are not cheap and won't be getting any cheaper until 3-4 years down the road.
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Persistantthug  +   993d ago
@dcbronco.....Last time I checked, Microsoft cant really handle the studios they've got
Closing Ensemble, Closing Digital Anvil, Shuttering ACES, getting rid of FASA.

We all know RARE is a shadow of it's former self and has been relegated to Kinect and AVATAR making.

Microsoft's best studio, BUNGIE, apparently got fed up with Microsoft's management incompetence and bought their way out, and hopped the first thing smoking.

I don't think it's in any studios best interest for Microsoft to buy them. I think we've seen enough.
ABizzel1  +   993d ago
Will there still be first party support?

I seriously doubt it. MS needs all it's first party studios to stay competitive with the PS4 and Wii U.

It'll probably just keep getting 3rd party support.
dcbronco  +   992d ago
Actually Mr. Why o Why I was referring to the fact that Sony is closing studios that didn't perform. Though I'm sure some of it was consolidation, some was that they were ineffective. The idea of making exclusives for the sake of saying you made some exclusives is silly. If they aren't successful, they are a waste. And breaking even doesn't cut it either. Too many gamers don't understand all of the other cost that go with making a game and it leads them to believe average sales means you can keep doing something. And you can if your overall business is healthy. But Sony has issues. So throwing exclusives at a wall and hoping for a pay-off is a waste of money they can't afford. Microsoft never went with that mis-guided business model even though they could easily afford to.

SDF, the reality is the majority of the games sold are third party. Any advantage there is what will make a console maker successful. Unless you can have every exclusive sell 4 or 5 million units, securing third party advantages is the best way to go. But if you are able to build up other large sources of revenue, like Live, you can then make a lot of exclusives and still not hurt your company. Which is why I believe at least ten of the 15 exclusives for Xbox One in that first year will be AAA non-Kinect or better with Kinect games. You can't look at business through fanboy eyes like so many do.

Thug MS first party studios are making money. I always thought that's what they were supposed to be doing. Kinect or not. Rare and most other developers aren't what they used to be. Most companies are one hit wonders. Some make a few more. But few last for decades at a high level. That is with anything. Companies come and go.

And Bungie got fed up with doing Halo. But they were allowed to buy themselves back. They couldn't just walk away. So give MS some credit for letting them go. Sony won't even let a IP go when they never owned the company. I never believe it's in any studios interest to be bought by anyone. It's best to be independent in every way. But ridiculous gamer demands along with gamers being cheap make selling small companies or joining a larger publisher a necessity. It's unfortunate. Until someone releases a platform that allows the talent to hold onto their creations or tax codes change to allow game developers to have the advantages of big corporations, everything small will be crushed. Unless they are very, very good and those very, very good people are rare.
ApolloTheBoss  +   993d ago
"25 million Xbox 360 consoles to be sold over the next five years."


Trust me, M$: When mainstream society finds out just how greedy and arrogant you've become with the coming of Xbone, you can expect that little prediction to diminish dramatically.
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Belking  +   993d ago
"Trust me, M$: When mainstream society finds out just how greedy and arrogant you've become with the coming of Xbone, you can expect that little prediction to diminish dramatically".

Diminish? That's exactly what society did to sony in the TV, camera and portable music market. MS doesn't have anything to fear. XBOXone and Wii-u can totally fail(which will never happen) and they still won't be bouncing checks. Can you say that about sony and PS4? Nope.
Only place they can really go is up. Apple killed them in the music and samsung has beaten them in the electronics market, and they have lost huge market share in the games arena. PS4 better be a hot item because they have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.
Why o why  +   993d ago
Their bottom lines aint my main concern. Sony give me more of what I want. None of these guys pay ANY of my bills belkin. So you continue to be a cheerleader for the wrong reasons imo. Ill be a cheerleader for sony because of how they deal with their core customers of their 'gaming console'.

No bait and switch, despite them being in a so called worse off situation than ms who have given you far less back. Just look at some of the comments and shifting attitudes of so many of the 360 guys here on n4g. Some aren't happy at all. Some on the other hand have picked up a seige mentality due to the recent barrage of criticism even though, deep down, they're pissed..... better off using that energy to get ms to make a couple U turns my friend.
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whoyouwit04  +   993d ago
"It's already abandon. They should've put that billion towards games and acquiring games studios 5 years ago not after the lack of 1st party exclusive games for years on 360. To late IMO"

No, Microsoft did the write thing by rebuilding most of there studios from the ground up. That was the less expensive way to build their games division; which is why microsoft now out number both sony and nintendo with studios. 23 and counting (it seems like every other month they open up a new one) this is also why micro soft can invest 2 times as much as sony or nintendo in Next gen games development ( Over a billion bucks). Anyways, I'm sure some of those studios will still be making games for the 360. seeing how Rare is a 3 team studio I really believe that Killer instinc will be announced for the 360 alone with a new ip for the xbox one.
The_Infected  +   993d ago
If they'd built the studios up sooner their fans wouldn't have been left with Forza, Gears, and Halo the entire generation. Also if you're that far behind a good studio purchase will help push out some good exclusive games while building their own studios. So no I diasagree I think they need much more exclusive games while building those studios.
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aviator189  +   993d ago
Why are you being so negative?
Starting is better than never having a beginning. You have to take into consideration that microsoft was late to console gaming, hence their lack of a considerable number of first-party studios.
whoyouwit04  +   993d ago
At the start of this generation, there studios were headed by Shane Kim. That was when there studios were at it lowest point; closing doors left and right. However, Phil came in and have been been Buying and building studios every since. It really doesn't matter that there were only a few first party exclusive the last 3 years of the 360. specially when you know they were building studios from the ground up and you are getting 15 the first year on the next Xbox 8 of which are brand new ips. Look I will say this you Sony fans keep hollering Microsoft should of, could of, would of with this gen, but this gen will soon be the past. Microsoft is promising a glorious future for both 360 and Xbox one owners so why keep bringing up the past; it has come and gone. I once said that you are one of the most open minded people on this site; so why can't you be open minded about this?
tarbis  +   993d ago
Lots of studios with nothing to show? Go back to sleep, you'll see your games there.
Qrphe  +   993d ago
The 360 will be one of the biggest problems of the X1. As long as CoD and EA Sports games keep on being released for it many won't jump ship.
Jek_Porkins  +   993d ago
Wonder if this shocks anyone? I called this a while ago, we haven't even seen a price drop in 4 years, so if they do drop the price to $99, it'll sell pretty well. Maybe they'll even release a new Xbox 360 super slim, which would be cool.
The_Klank  +   993d ago
Kinda puts a dampener on the whole 'One' box they are aiming for though doesn't it?
Jek_Porkins  +   993d ago
Not really, it's a cheap alternative for a lot of people. It also has a huge back catalog of games.
The_Klank  +   993d ago
Sorry forgot who I was talking to for a minute...
Of course it does, no BC automatically means there will be at least 3 boxes under your tv. 4 if you want extra storage.
Not exactly the all consuming entertainment hub they'd have you believe.
BillytheBarbarian  +   992d ago
Hahaha! What back catalogue? You mean remakes so I have to buy the same games again? Do we really need Sonic the Hedgehog or angry birds again? Pffft...they should have at least had xbla games BC.
BattleAxe  +   993d ago
"To sell another 25 million, half of those will probably come from replacements, but half will come from new buyers." (Microsoft, Xbox 360)

He is essentially saying that this is how they went about selling the current amount of consoles, with half being replacements, and half being original customers, which is why there are only 40 Million Xbox Live accounts. In reality, if Microsoft's hardware was any good, they should have only sold around 45 - 50 Million units worldwide.
Jek_Porkins  +   993d ago
There's actually around 48 million Xbox Live accounts. Some people also buy more than one console per household, I've got 3 now, my original launch date console, my 360s and the Gears Of War 3 360s with 320 gig HDD.
Pillsbury1  +   993d ago
Xbox live ACCOUNTS, not paying gold subscriptions.
cyberninja  +   993d ago
First party wise its been dead for about five years wtf they talking about, lol.
Pillsbury1  +   993d ago
Finally, a good move not to abandon the 360 because no one will buy their next console.
HaVoK308  +   993d ago
My games will still work on my 360s well after that 5 years. The same can't be said for the Xbox One. Once MS decides to drop support for it, every game you bought for it will be worthless.

Sony will do the same thing. Funny how everyone is assuming they will be different.

All this could have been avoided if Gamestop would have shared a little bit of revenue from (new) used game sales. You know, the once they sale used for only $5 off the suggested retail price. Those used sales truly do hurt the industry.
IQUITN4G  +   993d ago
This is something people aren't figuring into the future of games on xbox one, because only a minority of people can see the potential reality of it. If systems aren't in place some 15 years down the line to authenticate an older system, how exactly will it be possible to play the games. These games aren't books or films that can run on various systems. Kiss goodbye to your collection because unlike 360, you wont likely be able to play these 15 or 20 so years down the line- something we will in fact be able to do concerning running 360 games even 30 years from now if we have machines to do so

Reality is people that enjoy their software for years to come are a minority percentage and MS is happy f*ck them over. This is of course just a case of dealing with it because people for the most only think of the now
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Sitdown  +   993d ago
So is it possible that in 15 to 20 years authentication is opened, no longer requiring the check? Or that the system will continue to be in place...
GamingWorldPeace  +   993d ago
I think the big xbox surprise at E3 will be the new xbox mini/TV console that will retail for $99 without a dvd drive that will piggyback with the XB1. If you look at the history of the X360 slim, which was revealed at E3 a few years ago and it went on sale a few weeks later at retailers. Factor in with the rumored of a xbox TV device and a shrink chip already in-placed, I think this is a strong possibility. I see a price drop of the X360 right after E3 and the introduction of the mini soon after to gain continuous interest of buyers.
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Godmars290  +   993d ago
I'm betting in three years they shut off its servers.
GameCents  +   993d ago
I'll take that bet! Winner gets $10 psn voucher?
Godmars290  +   993d ago
Who's going to remember it?

Also wouldn't you want XBL points?
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GameCents  +   993d ago
And support microsoft? Not anymore. Also, I have a PS3.
josephayal  +   993d ago
25M xbox 360s and 1 billion Xbox Ones, not bad
Auron  +   993d ago
"Xbox 360 will not be abandoned for at least five years"

because no ones going buy the XB one! I'm passing on it. I don't want skynet in my home. Microsoft has changed the gameplan so much its sickening!
xxLuckyStrike  +   993d ago
M$ can go to hell. The 360 is/was great for the most part. Gave Sony and Nintendo equal competition all generation. Now it seems MS wants to dictate and change the whole industry. Taking away my rights as a consumer and requiring me to pay fees at the same time is a joke.
I had faith I'm MS even when they shoved kinnect down our throats. MS knows that core gamers don't care for it and realize its a gimmick. Not only did M$ not listen to our crys they made it mandatory to work at all. And added a always online requirement invading consumers privacy. MM$ claims 15 new exclusives and 8 new Ips for 2013. That's fine n all however the whole new shady business I approach aimed to take consumer rights, privacy issues and tem trying to suck my wallet dry is just a final straw.

MS revealed a next gen gaming console with no games aimed at TV watchers. They don't give a shit about gamers or games.
Grimhammer00  +   993d ago
The GameStop theory is legit.
But I'm not convinced that had they played ball with the big consoles makers that they wouldn't go this route eventually anyways.

And I do believe Sony will be the lesser of evils here. WiiU even more
BillytheBarbarian  +   993d ago
M$ is going to fail nextgen no matter what. Gamers don't like one company on top for too long. Sad thing is that Xbox one isn't doing them any favors and stamping the evil on their foreheads.
NameRemoved0017  +   993d ago
The PS4 is the new King and the Xbox one is taking the Wii Us place. Valve will take Microsoft's place later this year with steam boxes bringing PC gaming to more mainstream audiences.
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IBleedXbox  +   993d ago
im sticking with my 360 fuck that new xbox
just-joe  +   993d ago
Good, because I don't plan on buying an XBone.
tweet75  +   993d ago
yes its life will be extended especially if "one" sales are dismal
latincooker214  +   993d ago
for the next 5 years suuuuuuuuure whatever. and i want a shiter made out of pure gold but its just not in the cards is it.
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BillytheBarbarian  +   992d ago
That'll basically be annual sports games. Like Xbox original still got madden 08 even though it died in 05.
Max-Zorin  +   993d ago
MS is making Dictators look tolerable.
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Indo  +   992d ago
When did the five years start. In 2008?

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