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Submitted by cclass0623 920d ago | opinion piece

The Xbox One Has Its Own Red Ring Of Death

The Xbox One has a potential fatal flaw and Microsoft knows all about it. (Xbox One)

ArchangelMike  +   920d ago | Intelligent
Exactly. Peeps are saying that they will simply switch it off or turn it around. However Kinect is designed/required to detect gestures. I foresee a scenario where if you obstruct the sensor (block it out in anyway) you get an error message and have to give the sensor a clear view, if not the game/film/browser etc wont work.

I can't wait for Anonymous to hack the kinect 2.0 camera's and post the live vids on Youtube. That would make it all worth it.
negative  +   920d ago
fr0sty  +   920d ago
"There are ways around this issue and Microsoft may address them at E3 but after a statement was madw why wouldn't he address a backup plan immediately to ease gamers minds in case disaster struck the new Kinect."

C'mon, so called "journalists". Edit your damn articles. madw? Ending a question with a period? Seriously?
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nix  +   920d ago
i'm sure one can stick a passport size photo in front.. but damn.. they have that blood pressure scanner too.

i think one should just light a bulb behind the photo and stick it infront of kinect. lol.
420Tokes  +   920d ago
Thirty3Three  +   920d ago
Stop being so negative, Negative.
T2  +   920d ago
I wonder what kinect would do if you put a vid of a family in front of it is it smart or dumb
FragMnTagM  +   920d ago
Anyone who thinks a picture can fool the Kinect 2 or for that matter the first Kinect, you obviously do not know how they work.

A picture would not work at all because they both send out infrared beams that sense depth. The picture is flat, i.e. it will not register as a human being on either Kinect. Kinect 2 would also detect that there was no heat coming off the picture.

Video would not work either as the screen is flat.

A doll or action figure could possibly work on the Kinect 1, but definitely not the Kinect 2. They are both really good at figuring out what is in front of them which is a bit scary (big brother stuff).
Kevin ButIer  +   920d ago
"I can't wait for Anonymous to hack the kinect 2.0 camera's and post the live vids on Youtube. That would make it all worth it".

Lol thats creepy...
stage88  +   920d ago
Exactly this. It will show an error so you will need it facing you all the time.
I don't want someone watching and listening to me in my house all the time.

You can take your spyware elsewhere MS.
Tony-Red-Grave  +   920d ago
i don't mind being seen fapping while trolling

come at me xD
Jek_Porkins  +   920d ago
Did you really say you cant wait for Anonymous to hack a gaming device? really? I mean seriously...and you have a ton of agrees. People should be ashamed of themselves, that group is the enemy of all gamer's, you cant just pick and choose because you happen to not like something.

Most of the people complaining, are people who weren't going to buy the next Xbox anyway. I've never seen so much childishness before in my life, don't like it? don't buy it!
kevinsheeks  +   920d ago
your such a fanboy it's sad plenty have already pointed it out what Microsoft seeks to do is stomp on the rights of consumers everywhere

its not enough to just not buy this we have to openly bash this so people know it's not right

if it take's anon working their magic to show the faults of an always on camera watching you then so be it
also jek shame on you for siding with a corporation who doesn't care anything about you shame on you for being so blind and leading our generation astray shame on you
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Freedomland  +   919d ago

"Don't buy it"
And that's exactly what I' am gonna do.

Imagine you and your girlfriend playing videogames on youtube. Can't wait for domestic bloopers.
Hercules189  +   919d ago
If you buy a product from microsoft, youre supporting terrorist, thats something you should know by now, these people on n4g are developing the ps4 and they have undercover spys working in microsoft. These people know everything that will happen in 6 more months, you cant really argue with them cause theyre always right.
indysurfn  +   920d ago
Here is the thing to not miss. Microsoft has been talking about doing this for TWO YEARS! They keep getting told NO, by the consumer. They did it again, trying, and retrying to get it past the revolt to warm us up to the idea of not having full ownership of what we paid for(and not renting). Will we eventually fall for it? I HOPE not.

But if you change your mind because Microsoft once again changed their mind consider this. Remember all those updates we have on the current systems? Ever read them? Terms and conditions can change at ANY given moment WITHOUT NOTICE. Failure to accept the new terms, and conditions, then your system will NOT be updated, and you will not be able to play on your system until you do.

Reguardless, you still can only go to monopoly approved price fixing retailers Like EB!

So say we fall asleep(let our guards down), and millions people have bought the system, and THEN Microsoft does a update, and from now on your trade ins require a fee is paid, either by you are the buyer. Or Microsoft, make the 'periodic' internet checks more frequent. They already got you! Then it will be a MAD RUSH to the retail store to trade in your xbox(one) before it is only worth $25!!!

Don't let companies take pot shots at you without holding it against them permantly. They are doing JUST like they did trying to trick us into going to war in Iraq!

Remember Sony is watching, and they have not totally committed to not having a fee for saling your game, if we let Microsoft have our money for being fools they Sony will have to charge to compete! If you sell yourself out why should you expect Sony to let Microsoft be the only company to gash you for money.

Plus they still require a internet connection to watch tv, or play a game. Are you kidding me, am I the ONLY person that noticed that you will have to have active internet watch cable, or satellite TV!

Right now when my internet goes out my cable tv still works! If I get xbox one when my internet goes out, or modemn I can't watch tv! I think this is a deal that Microsoft STRUCK with the ISP's (just speculation) to get monopoly(ops exclusive) content!

Plus they will have ILLUMINATI sight into your living room!
rainslacker  +   920d ago
Honestly, the console is much more likely to break than the circuit board and sensors in the Kinect.

I may be hating on MS right now, but Kinect breaking isn't likely to be a massive $1 billion dollar problem for MS. This is just grasping at straws.
kenmid  +   920d ago
Is the PS4 sensor required on the ps4?
pixelsword  +   920d ago
Just turn it around and put a wind-chime in front of it; that will take care of both the camera and the mic.
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titletownrelo  +   919d ago
that actually sounds fucking creepy, to be honest.
KimiRaikkonen  +   919d ago
You just reminded me of the one month psn outage.
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FrigidDARKNESS  +   920d ago
Troll thread thread and article. The title is totally flame bait for fanboys to troll.
Zhipp  +   920d ago
Indeed. The article's stupidity makes my head hurt, and I won't even get started on the comments. It's like most of the users here are brain dead five year olds.
Sharius  +   920d ago
try this one

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ApolloTheBoss  +   920d ago
Why do I get the feeling this is gonna happen a lot? Lol.
chestnut1122  +   920d ago
If these will ever be true, MS Needs to Donate some of their X BOX one in order to live lol!.
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Ashlen  +   920d ago
My bigger concern for the life and death of the Bone is the non-removable hard drive. It seems highly unlikely it would function after a HD failure.
JBSleek  +   920d ago
I seem to be the minority that like the Xbox One so far but I like all it can do.

Some gripes seems to be legitamite but I don't buy used so I guess I don't care but I can see the complaint.

I hope there is a $99 Xbox One on subscription.
Rusty515  +   920d ago
Why? It'll just end up costing you more and being a rip off like their 360 $99 on subscription.
JBSleek  +   920d ago
Like any other subscription like cell phones and such? This isn't anything new really.

I have no issue paying less now and paying incremntal excpecialy as a college student.
dalibor  +   920d ago
I say save that $ up all at once and just get it all at once to make the purchase and save $. That $ could be used for more games/whatever. And just because cell phones are subscription based like that does not warrant that it's the right thing to do or that it's okay. You have a choice and I say try to save some money in the end. Don't get ripped off.
MassOnesumis  +   920d ago
If you think a xbox system + live contract is great there's some prime Florida swampland you might be interested in.
JBSleek  +   920d ago
I never understod gamers who insult people because of their personal preference. It seems kinda childish, excepcially when all that was stated is I like paying less now and more later which is pretty normal.
MassOnesumis  +   920d ago
I apologize if I insulted you as a gamer but I was criticizing your financial choice. You're attending college and approve of the idea of paying more over time for something that is a non-essential.

Student loans and cellular plans and exorbitant enough, but they necessary and have professional and economical value, adding another bill for a video game system appears ludicrous.
MrWegman  +   920d ago
The video for the Kinect 2.0 looked interesting... my kids love the kinect and it looks like the Kinect 2.0 will actually work for my kids:) I am looking forward to the PS4 and the new xbox... I love technology and I am excited for both...
MikeMyers  +   920d ago
I wasn't really a fan of the original Kinect, I thought it really failed to live up to the expectations of better with Kinect. This however looks to be what it should have been. It's actually quite a remarkable device. It sees in the dark, it can even recognize wrinkles on a t-shirt. It can detect up to 6 people independently. It doesn't require as much space. Skeletal and muscle imaging that can tell how much weight is being transferred. Fitness and boxing games will now be next gen. It can even read your heart-rate without a device attached. Amazing stuff. David Cage talked about emotion and games, now you can have Kinect 2 read your own expressions and mood. Split-screen and automatic recognition for jumping into games and auto-sign in.

The latency issues are now gone. The image quality is now 1080p. All the complaints from before are now gone.

The audio quality is amazing in itself too. Even during poor quality voice commands with a bunch of background noise it still picks up your voice.

It's hard not to be impressed by this technology, unless you're one of those who likes to just focus on all the negative stuff.
kenmid  +   920d ago
I don't see why anybody would disagree with your comment. These Playstation fanboys are ridiculous.
Excalibur  +   920d ago
"M$'s Phil Harrison stated in an interview "Kinect and Xbox One are one and the same. They are two parts of the equation. Obviously the Kinect sensor is used for Skype, for communication, for voice recognition, gesture and motion sensing and the rest."

Ok Phil, I don't want to do any of that stuff so please tell me why I have to hook it up?
I just want to play NORMAL/KINECT FREE games so why do I even have to hook the Kinect portion up?

Strangely my 5 year old Xbox 360 works fine without a Kinect device hooked to it, Isn't the Xbox One supposed to be an advancement in technology?

Tell me again why I need this?
MultiConsoleGamer  +   920d ago
Misleading agenda piece.
Grimhammer00  +   920d ago
Its a cumulated effect.
-pay to play online
-spyware (oh...if you buy x1 your agreeing to it so I guess not)
-1 connection every 24hrs to confirm your useage?
DRM control.
-proprietary HDD that cannot be swapped out.
-kinect 2.0 everything (some of us older gamers just ain't interested....but we're also the ones with most coin to burn)
-Internet required ....big issue! Their are tons of sales that just won't happen now. Forget places like Africa or places in Europe.....their are plenty of US & Canadian pockets that have spotty Internet.

If X1 was the only option....we'd all have to "deal with it"! Lol

But WiiU had a price cut in Europe....but I promise you the %346 increase in sales since X1 announcement had a big impact!
AO1JMM  +   920d ago
Lame and in no way the same thing as the RROD problem. You fanboys and haters need to get a life.

Article is meant to mislead and start flame wars and the website should be voted down.
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tigertron  +   920d ago
My concern is the huge vents, particularly the one that takes up half of the top of the console. The dust getting caught in there can lead to overheating problems. I mean, the 360 slim has smaller vents on the top and I do my best to try and dust the top, but even so...
FragMnTagM  +   920d ago
A can of duster used once a week will keep any significant amount of dust that would cause overheating out of the system/ any system.

I work on computers and gadgets all the time and dust is not as big of a problem as everyone makes it out to be. Liquids and drops/falls are by far the most common issues.

Unless you have a lot of animals and smoke in the house, dust will not be a big deal.

Having said that, I think the vent on the top is ugly as hell, but it does it's job and will keep it cool as heat rises.
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Martywren  +   920d ago
This article FAIL!
josephayal  +   920d ago
im really worry about this

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JumpingPig   920d ago | Offensive
tweet75  +   920d ago
this is why it might be wise to wait a year or so after its release to purchase one
FITgamer  +   920d ago
It would be even more wise to just avoid buying it at all.
Hercules189  +   919d ago
what if we like the games that come with it, and dont really like the ps4 games, try and counter that.
FITgamer  +   919d ago
I understand that, it's logical thinking. I wanted to get both a PS4 and Xbone if it had awesome exclusives. The fact that the Kinect is always watching/listening, which no one regardless of what company you favor should be ok with, is enough to make me realize its not worth it. Also the used game fee. Not because i have to pay to play a used game i already bought because i haven't bought a single used game this gen i only i buy the games i plan to keep because i collect them. I am a Gamefly subscriber and M$ will kill great services like Gamefly or cause them to hike up the subscription fees. So im saying no to Xbone and if i miss out on some good games i'll be ok because i'll be able to enjoy great games on the PS4.
FITgamer  +   919d ago
I forgot to say one thing. You may not like all of the PS4 exclusives, but i can guarantee that there will be some you like. Unless you are one those people who call themselves gamers and only play shooters.
Astargatis  +   920d ago
Xbox one will have a fee for RROD too
n4g_someone  +   920d ago
RROD inside

They Should trademark it, if it happens again.
Albie360  +   920d ago
Well after 11 RROD I will not buy their shit again. It is anyway underpowered to the PS4. I love pc gaming and ps for their brilliant exclusives. Fuck Xbox one.
marchinggamer  +   920d ago
Fake trolls are always funny
headblackman  +   920d ago
this article is a load of crap. the kinect had nothing to do with rrod. cutting corners to get the Xbox 360 out first damaged the Xbox 360 and heat from the machine leakened the cheap solder from the chip sets which in tern caused the rrod. this will not be so with the Xbox one, because no corners are being cut as there was no corners cut in the first Xbox. this will be a damn near perfect machine on every level. like it or not. believe it or not. Xbox will dominate the market. and e3 will show us all how and why. Microsoft always has huge secrets and surprises up there sleeves. this e3 will be no different. a lot of fans and haters will be amazed and shocked at the masterpieces that have been kept from the public and how it all will work as well as work together to give us (the consumer) the better/best experience.

game on :-)
Tarkona  +   919d ago
I seem to remember with the original Xbox there was a known issue with the power supply brick. It over-heated and actually caused house fires. 360 had the RRoD(which they were aware of before launch but they HAD to beat Sony and Nintendo to the punch.)If memory serves, they had something like a 56% failure rate, which cost them more money than probably everyone posting on these things comined will earn in our lifetimes. And now the Xbox One has its own known design flaw and they will release it anyway to meet their scheduled deadline and try to keep up with the momentum the PS4 is already building. You're right. it is crap. There is NOTHING Micro$hit can do to convince me to buy this garbage or that they actually care what their customers want. The deleting and blocking of posts on various websites tells me they don't care and don't want to listen to the people who buy the things that allow them to have these jobs.
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headblackman  +   919d ago
every console has had its known issues, but the first Xbox never had a huge outbreak issue that was so big that it could be deemed a nuisance. the rrod and yrod were the only issues that were major (more so rrod). there are known flaws in a console that hasn't been released yet. its not even considered an issue until it hits the market and discovered to be an issue. when the problem is still with the project and company, its only a threat. not a problem. a threat can be fixed and made perfect. a problem can also be fixed and made perfect over time, but the problem does damage to the brand and the threat simply requires a little more attention and maybe a little more time. we have nothing to fear from the new Xbox one because of the lessons that Microsoft has learned due to the errors of the Xbox 360 and the massive benefits of having the largest bank account to make this a success. none of the other competitor company's can compete with that. all of the issues that the consumers had with the Xbox 360 will not be a fact in the Xbox one. I can't stress this enough. LESSONS HAVE BEEN LEARNED.

game on :-)
greenmeanie  +   920d ago
The article states that if the kinect breaks, then the whole system wont work, and the won't be able to purchase another kinect separately... Well isn't that the EXACT same scenario as the wii u? I mean you literally can't run it without the gamepad, and you can't buy one of those separately. I haven't heard of this being an issue at all. I mean it sucks if it happens, and I am sure it has, but not on a RRoD level! Give me a break!
Godmars290  +   920d ago
The question is have Kinect units failed?

"hopefully Microsoft can write their wrongs in June at E3."

Except that's only going to be about games. The thing they covered least in the presentation.

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